On Story: 412 Neo Noir: The Modern Day Film Noir

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024

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  • @Calitravis
    @Calitravis Před 6 lety +9

    Great conversation with two writers who truly understand Noir and how to write it:
    Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was brilliant and underrated, and LA Confidential was nominated for Best Picture (and should have won).
    Both films are considered "Neo" Noir -- as is Chinatown -- because they were made after the "classic" noir period from 1941-1958. But the "Neo" in Neo-Noir is basically a pointless subcategory. Chinatown is considered a "Neo" Noir, but the movie is set sometime between the 1920s and the 1940s, and looks and feels like a "classic" film noir compared to modern Neo-Noirs.
    Btw, the most interesting line in this interview to me?
    Shane Black said he considers Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" to be a Noir.
    I think he might be right.

    • @MAFion
      @MAFion Před 3 lety +1

      Another noir-flavored western you may like is Nicholas Ray's "Johnny Guitar".

  • @roger8654
    @roger8654 Před 7 lety +8

    Double imdemnity is great filmmaking. Great talk.

  • @79dmcjr
    @79dmcjr Před rokem +2

    What a great interview and inspiring to boot

  • @winterbourne6095
    @winterbourne6095 Před 9 lety +18

    Forget it Jake, It's Chinatown.

  • @dantean
    @dantean Před 3 lety +4

    Exemplifies perfectly why I don't like what most people--even Hollywood filmmakers--think constitutes "noir." What ruins L.A. Confidential is EXACTLY the moral agent dropped from the heavens with his own "justice" to meet out, as if the noir universe--specifically, it's CHARACTERS--can even BE saved. Do-gooders in noir are cop-outs (no pun intended) unless they're murdered somewhere along the way. You can tell from their mistaking Hammett's Maltese Falcon--the greatest hardboiled detective film of them all--being mistaken for "noir." It's not. And while noir and hardboiled share a lot of qualities, even to the point of a great deal of overlap, it's the true noir devotee who understands the difference, not these guys--happy though I am that they can make a living doing art of any kind, even compromised art. Beats waiting tables.

  • @ge0rgeharris218
    @ge0rgeharris218 Před 2 lety +1

    Neonoir has a long way to go to even get close to the brilliance of the past!!

  • @danwroy
    @danwroy Před 7 měsíci

    Damn, this was great.

  • @winterbourne6095
    @winterbourne6095 Před 9 lety +1

    wow. That was spectacular!

  • @dancronin5691
    @dancronin5691 Před 2 lety

    This is really insightful, Thank you.

  • @ColdCoffy
    @ColdCoffy Před 8 lety

    massively helpful, thank you very much

  • @sushilrao1952
    @sushilrao1952 Před 3 lety

    I wish there was a list of the films that were mentioned.

  • @breengreg
    @breengreg Před 4 lety +1

    I keep thinking Helgeland is wearing one short leg.

  • @Peter32tjrksor
    @Peter32tjrksor Před 7 lety +2

    did they even talk about neo noir? seemed to me that they only talked about noir.

  • @steveweinstein3222
    @steveweinstein3222 Před 7 lety

    Color films by definition, can't be noir. Films noir, blanch et les colours entre les choses, but not noir.