A Shaker Worship Service by Salli Terri

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  • A Shaker Worship Service by Salli Terri
    Featuring the University of Kentucky Choristers
    Under the Direction of Professor Sara Holroyd
    Produced by the office of Instructional Resources
    University of Kentucky
    With Support from a grant by the Kentucky Arts Council
    Directed by Leveque McDonald
    Narrated by Dr. Thomas D. Clark
    September 29, 1979

Komentáře • 172

  • @Jersey.D3vil
    @Jersey.D3vil Před rokem +28

    There ia quite a contrast between newer and older comments. Older comments show more process of thought whereas recent comments, not so much. It demonstrates the evolution of CZcams and how comment style and quality has changed over the years. Having said that, this is NOT a reenactment of Shaker worship; it is an artistic interpretation that was choreographed and arranged by Salli Terri.

    • @productamadeus8745
      @productamadeus8745 Před 2 měsíci

      I assumed it looked like a movie production. This is the danger you get when you turn what should be a faith issue into a performative set of things you have to do to be saved.

    • @sheikowi
      @sheikowi Před měsícem

      It's a beautiful approximation of Shaker spirituality. U read the wrong books.

  • @8polyglot
    @8polyglot Před 3 lety +48

    Shakerism wherein they 'shake' their sins away in ecstatic dance and song. Very interesting and an enduring legacy of religion and faith in America.

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 Před rokem +2

      I reckon the real thing was wilder than this.

    • @sheikowi
      @sheikowi Před měsícem

      Not quite; it's when connection is gained.

  • @UNOwen1
    @UNOwen1 Před 2 lety +43

    I’m NOT a religious person, but I am awed by the beauty of the symmetry, simplicity.
    It really is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Stunning.

    • @SRose-vp6ew
      @SRose-vp6ew Před rokem +1

      Psalm 149:3&4 Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp. For the LORD takes delight in his people; he crowns the humble with victory. Zephaniah 3:17 The Lord your God is with you, the Mighty Warrior who saves. He will take great delight in you; in his love he will no longer rebuke you, but will rejoice over you with singing.”
      And from John 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.” 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever LIVES by the Truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

    • @pdstor
      @pdstor Před rokem

      Watch any of the Raretonga Catholics or old Orthodox in Ethiopia, Egypt, Greece, India. Christian services were more or less like this until the second of these so-called Great Awakenings.

    • @pdstor
      @pdstor Před rokem

      Watch the old Scottish Calvinists sing the 17th century Psalmody for that matter!

    • @bradleyscarton3931
      @bradleyscarton3931 Před rokem +2

      The Shakers were radical in their thinking in their day. Both men and women were of equal footing, believed in natural health, against slavery and prejudice, were pacifists. They believed they practiced true Christianity.

  • @michael24taggart
    @michael24taggart Před 2 lety +36

    1:14 - Come to Zion
    4:06 - I’m on my Way to Zion
    5:42 - Oh, the Beautiful Treasures
    7:56 - I Have a Little Drum
    8:30 - Who Will Bow and Bend Like a Willow
    9:31 - Love, Oh Love, is Sweetly Flowing
    13:21 - Ina Vina Violet
    14:00 - I Will Bow and be Simple
    15:16 - Simple Gifts
    16:45 - Living Souls
    17:49 - Finale

  • @donnar.phillips6795
    @donnar.phillips6795  Před 9 lety +102

    This is a choreographed program. Performed at Shaker Village by the University of Kentucky Choristers annually from 1979 to 1992. The performance you are viewing is part of a longer documentary.

    • @osaabd390
      @osaabd390 Před 6 lety +2

      Hello Donna, is this a real service? or is it enacted? are these real shakers or performers?

    • @ruegaillard
      @ruegaillard Před 3 lety +4

      @@WJHSCessna i was thinking they all sounded like trained singers...

    • @sheikowi
      @sheikowi Před měsícem

      That's possibly all it was to you. It's about focus, opening.

    • @timmatherly5080
      @timmatherly5080 Před 11 dny +1

      ​​@@osaabd390the last time I heard there were only a couple of Shakers still living in Maine. My father was born on the property that is now Shaker Village near Harrodsburg, KY. I had two Aunts and a cousin that worked at the village at the time this was produced. It's possible that my cousin is in this group. She is a Professor of Music at Asbury College just down the road from where this was filmed.

    • @osaabd390
      @osaabd390 Před 11 dny +1

      @@timmatherly5080 thnx ❤️

  • @CrazySquirrelProductions
    @CrazySquirrelProductions Před 4 lety +50

    My great aunt Lil was a Shaker. I think the simplicity of the song as a central part of worship is very endearing and holy.

    • @sheikowi
      @sheikowi Před měsícem

      Don't let go; you got the Word.

  • @seaotter4439
    @seaotter4439 Před rokem +4

    Come to Zion, sin-sick souls in sorrow bound!
    Lay your cares before the altar, where true healing may be found!
    Shout alleluia, alleluia - in praise resounds o'er land and sea,
    All who will may come and share the glories of this jubilee!
    I'm on my way to Zion, that peaceful, happy mansion
    Where life is ever flowing and death is never known
    Come on, my well believed,
    Ye whom the Lord hath saved.
    Let not your heart be troubled,
    You'll soon arrive at home!
    O, the beautiful treasures laid up for the wise,
    How precious the value, how glorious the prize!
    Far brighter than diamonds on prince's brow,
    And richer than royalty can bestow!
    I have a little drum that Mother gave to me,
    The prettiest little drum that ever you did see!
    (Rum, ta-ta-tum, rum ta-ta-tum tum) (throughout the chorus)
    I'll drum night and day, I'll drum night and day
    I'll call volunteers to fight sin away!
    Who will bow and bend like the willow,
    Who will turn and twist and reel?
    In the gale of simple freedom,
    From the bower of union flowing?
    Who will drink the wine of power, dripping down like a shower,
    Pride and bondage all forgetting?
    Mother's wine is freely found
    Oh, ho I will have it!
    I will bow and bend to get it!
    I'll be reeling, twisting, turning
    Shake out all the starch and stiff'ning!
    Though I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not love, I am become as a sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal. Love suffereth long, and is kind. Love envieth not. Love wanteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not easily provoked. Thinketh no evil, rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth. Beareth all things, hopeth all things, believeth all things and endureth all things. Now abideth faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love.
    Love, o, love, is sweetly flowing
    On its banks a wind is growing,
    These a mother is bestowing,
    Love, love, heavenly love!
    Come, ye children, freely gather
    Unto love and bless each other,
    This will bind our hearts together
    In love, love, heavenly love!
    Put your hands to work, and your hearts to God! (Three times)
    I-ne, vi-ne, violet!
    Ee-ne, see-ne vingo pret!
    Y-fen, wa-fem, wa-ne voo!
    O-le, mo-le, minzy two!
    Aoren, waoren, wany vo, mother's love is even so!
    Oo-ne, e-ne, i-ne vay, now in love we'll dance and play!
    I will bow and be simple, I will bow and be free,
    I will bow and be humble, yea, bow like the willow tree.
    I will bow, this is the token, I will wear the easy yoke,
    I will bow and be broken, yea, I'll fall upon the rock!
    Tis a gift to be simple, 'tis a gift to be free,
    'Tis the gift to come down where we ought to be,
    And when we find ourselves in the place just right,
    'Twill be in the valley of love and delight.
    When true simplicity is gain'd,
    To bow and to bend we shan't be asham'd,
    To turn, turn will be our delight,
    Till by turning, turning we come round right!
    Living souls, let's be marching on our journey to heaven
    With our lamps trimmed and burning, with the oil of truth!
    Let us join the Heavenly Chorus and unite with our parents,
    They will lead us on to Heaven, in the path of righteousness!

  • @davidc.6284
    @davidc.6284 Před 5 lety +40

    I went to the Shaker Village of Pleasant Hill and learned that they always sang in unison and never used harmonies to keep people feeling equal, and this seems to feature many harmonies.

    • @Envergure
      @Envergure Před 2 lety +5

      @Ellie5621 Yes, definitely very theatrical. It isn't even intended as a serious historical reenactment. I have a Shaker hymnal attributed to "The Canterbury Shakers" and it includes harmony similar to Protestant hymnals, and even anthems, but not rounds, and the vocal ranges are congregational rather than choral.

    • @l-kin3480
      @l-kin3480 Před rokem

      @@Envergure where did you get it?

  • @hilarylawrence4588
    @hilarylawrence4588 Před 5 lety +24

    Just saw Ken Burns' documentary on the Shakers this evening so wanted to see what their songs and dances were like. I was raised Anglican then became Catholic, so therefore I have a really hard time understanding this style of worship. Many of the Shakers' contemporaries did, also. However, I do think their singing and dancing is beautiful and very much so represents the beauty of faith as they understood it to be.

  • @JavierBonillaC
    @JavierBonillaC Před 5 lety +13

    I love the simplicity with which this people lived in their time. I could never live like that mentally, but I wish I lived like that materially. No excesses, no absurd over consumption. And what an extraordinary reconstruction and beautiful singing. We are so great full to these people participating in this reconstruction.

    • @Mulberry2000
      @Mulberry2000 Před 2 lety

      @Delling Conley Silly statement another post that humans are a plague. Such self hatred.

  • @cyndean18
    @cyndean18 Před 7 lety +25

    Thank you so much for posting this! I performed this piece by Salli Terri with the Cal. State Fullerton, University Singers in 1975. Ms. Terri lived nearby and coached us on how to perform the piece by sharing her personal experiences of living with some elderly Shaker women. It brings back some wonderful memories, especially of the incredible singer/arranger, Salli Terri.

  • @karenyohn8515
    @karenyohn8515 Před 7 lety +21

    Thank you for keeping this history known. I sang "Simple Gifts" much slower than demonstrated here with my high school aapella choir 'back in the day".

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 7 lety +7

      Hi Karen, I'm glad that you enjoyed this presentation. The song "Simple Gifts" was written by the Shakers for dancing. In some Shaker manuscripts the song is not given a title. Instead it has a heading that says "quick dance" indicating that the tempo of the song was upbeat. Thanks to Composer, Aaron Copeland's slow setting of the song in his orchestral work, "Appalachian Spring", most arrangers have followed suit and used a slower tempo. In "A Shaker Worship Service" composer, Salli Terri, chooses to quicken the tempo as originally intended to suit the dance choreography.

    • @jasonsmith7416
      @jasonsmith7416 Před 5 měsíci

      Yup - in short even faster. Copelands interpretation had an sig effect on shaker history- popular but not entirely accurate as the song was changed into something with no liturgical use.

  • @laruealegria4450
    @laruealegria4450 Před 5 lety +10

    Love the bell calling to Worship...reminds me of the bell at the Abbey calling believers to Mass so sweet how awesome the worship is!
    I wanna be a Shaker

  • @jameswest7578
    @jameswest7578 Před 5 lety +6

    Preformed the Shaker Worship Service in the early 90s. Amazing times!

  • @heatherkuhn8326
    @heatherkuhn8326 Před rokem +2

    As a Shaker enthusiast, a singer, and a movement professional who practices contemplative movement including shaking, I do wish this was more emotionally honest and that the singing wasn't so classically affected.

    • @jasonsmith7416
      @jasonsmith7416 Před 5 měsíci

      It was hard for me as well - but remember it’s just a museum presentation - not the real thing.

  • @laruealegria4450
    @laruealegria4450 Před 5 lety +7

    Simple life of mindfulness

  • @vidarbonsak7855
    @vidarbonsak7855 Před rokem +3

    I came here after hearing indie band Magnetic Fields' version of a shaker song. Never heard about them before. Very fascinating and interesting approach to faith.

    • @tylerdrown
      @tylerdrown Před rokem +1

      thank you for turning me on to the Magnetic Field's last album, I love 69 Love Songs but hadn't listened to their more recent catalog until I happened upon your comment.

    • @vidarbonsak7855
      @vidarbonsak7855 Před rokem +1

      @@tylerdrownMagnetic Fields' album 'Quickies' is in my opinion their best since they made what is my number one favorite album of all time '69 Love Songs'. And they got to be the first band ever to make a song about Shakerism.

  • @jasonsmith7416
    @jasonsmith7416 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Let us all remember this is a theatrical performance by the museum and is to give one the idea of what Shaker worship was like…..

    • @patrickmcinerney9491
      @patrickmcinerney9491 Před 5 měsíci

      How do you think it differed?

    • @jasonsmith7416
      @jasonsmith7416 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@patrickmcinerney9491 well - you can go worship with the shaker community every Sunday - so that’s a great place to start. Alllbeit - the form of worship has changed over the years which really has more to do with the physical capacity of the members as they aged. Sung Shaker music in its received forms tends to lack musically in the traditional sense - there was no perfect harmony etc. Again, there was a time when they did adhere to a more structured dance - but has continued to changed with the requirements of the community. The short answer - this is a lovely presentation.

    • @sheikowi
      @sheikowi Před měsícem

      That's all YOU want ot to be. Open up.

    • @timmatherly5080
      @timmatherly5080 Před 11 dny

      ​@@jasonsmith7416 where do you find a Shaker community to worship with?

    • @jasonsmith7416
      @jasonsmith7416 Před 11 dny +1

      @@timmatherly5080 - the last community of course. Sabbath day lake. I’ve know Brother since I was in elementary school.

  • @Kadag
    @Kadag Před 3 měsíci +1

    I was researching the whole Shaker thing and the life of Ann Lee before seeing this. And it makes sense now. If these are all completely lifelong celibate but vital intelligent men and women you put them in the same room with one another facing each other singing and moving they're going to feel something the transformation of that sexual energy that's natural to all human beings into song and dance and transcendent thoughts they're going to be having Kundalini they're going to be having mystical experiences. Good times.

  • @Varianna12
    @Varianna12 Před 9 lety +10

    Wonderful. History before our very eyes.

  • @KendellsRightHere
    @KendellsRightHere Před rokem +2

    Such beautiful customs from such beautiful people ❤

  • @wynterginger
    @wynterginger Před 7 měsíci +1

    I’m from Shaker Heights, Ohio…. We are a city founded by Shakers and learn about them in school.

  • @donnar.phillips6795
    @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety +9

    Hi Mathew, I’m glad you enjoyed this presentation. I too am fascinated by many expressions of worship.

    • @keshiamcfarland7120
      @keshiamcfarland7120 Před 4 lety +2

      Grace and peace Donna. Thank you for sharing this! I love the unity and peace depicted in this film. The singing & choreography was superb! God bless you!

  • @serenaann2082
    @serenaann2082 Před 6 dny

    I have an ancestor that was involved in this. Is was so interesting reading about her, I went down a rabbit whole researching it. ❤ I can't think of her name rn. I'd have to go look at the family tree again.

  • @r.c.whitaker296
    @r.c.whitaker296 Před 5 lety +4

    Similar to the churches of Christ. Singing parts, but no instruments.
    It's really beautiful.

  • @patrickobrien8060
    @patrickobrien8060 Před 6 lety +4

    Donna Phillips, you have done a real service with this video.

  • @ScreamingWall-vc5kp
    @ScreamingWall-vc5kp Před 2 měsíci

    I have no words to describe it, delightful!

  • @theodorechavez7058
    @theodorechavez7058 Před rokem +1

    Thank You. Very Informative.

  • @dancurry1623
    @dancurry1623 Před 5 lety +6

    This is such a valuable resource. Thank you!

  • @jodielprynce
    @jodielprynce Před 6 lety +4

    I had a dream that their fellowship was similar without the entry singing, the elder spoke first then praise to God began.

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety +4

      The Shakers in Kentucky, for a period of time, would march to the meeting house, lined up in ranks, singing all the way. The Shakers residing in the New England states did not participate in this practice. This dramatization tries to capture the spirit of the Kentucky Shakers marching and singing from their dwelling homes, coming from North, South, East, and West, converging upon the meeting house in song. In actuality, the Kentucky Shakers would fall silent once they arrived at the meeting house and sit in silence for a while waiting for the Spirit of God to move.

    • @gaymichaelis7581
      @gaymichaelis7581 Před 2 lety

      Well, Donna, and others… I got from one of the videos that Ann Lee started studying or worshiping with Quakers! And this is the form of worship that the Quakers have!!!

  • @orvillequick
    @orvillequick Před 7 lety +10

    thanks and ignore the negative comments. a good cross section of shaker worship and "gifts" you have done. Obviously little is really known about the modes of worship of these people other what was given to us by historical record. Writing about it is one thing, seeing it is another. Thanks for producing this.

    • @jasonsmith7416
      @jasonsmith7416 Před 5 měsíci

      A lot is known - the dancing didn’t stop because of a change in theology - everyone got too old. Although again different today - Sunday services are always open to the public. Stop next time you find yourself in Maine on a Sunday - they will make you freely welcome just as they have for almost 250 years.

  • @randomcitizen2384
    @randomcitizen2384 Před 4 lety +3

    Interesting. They sound great!

  • @alexkisss18
    @alexkisss18 Před 6 lety +5

    its very interesting to see that there are great parallels to Oshos dynamic meditation. similar spirit in an other cultural context

  • @Mulberry2000
    @Mulberry2000 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing.

  • @rubrumlily
    @rubrumlily Před 6 lety +9

    I was in that performance

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety +2

      Nanci Wach, There is a reunion group on Facebook called UK Choristers, Shakertown Memories. We had a reunion concert at UK a few years ago, and a singing group called the Sarah Holroyd Singers continues to sing Shaker music together as a result. If you are interested in being added to the FACEBOOK page friend me and I’ll ask the administrator to add you. Several people from this original performance are part of the group.

    • @JavierBonillaC
      @JavierBonillaC Před 5 lety +1

      Well thank you from my heart; it was beautiful.

  • @marymcgarvey4153
    @marymcgarvey4153 Před 3 lety +8

    It’s amazing to think that this community thrives without sex although the
    Method of
    Prayer is almost like dancing with a lot of interaction with the opposite sex.

    • @barryrhoads8716
      @barryrhoads8716 Před 3 lety +5

      Doomed from the outset by thoughts of celibacy and complete separation of men and women. Socialism at its finest and still doomed to failure if nothing else through commerce.

    • @Xorobabel
      @Xorobabel Před 3 lety +2

      They no longer exist.

    • @annaselbdritt7916
      @annaselbdritt7916 Před 2 lety +10

      @@barryrhoads8716 that's not what socialism means. Please, I beg you, please just google the definition of socialism.

    • @thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752
      @thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Xorobabel not quite, there’s still a community hanging on called Sabathday Lake

    • @rowanhunter2157
      @rowanhunter2157 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752 Yes, Sabbathday Lake hangs on, there are only 3 brothers now.

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive Před rokem +1

    I'd love to see this recreated in a movie.

  • @evastanford3884
    @evastanford3884 Před 7 lety +3

    They were lovely people

  • @sheikowi
    @sheikowi Před měsícem

    Some Spirit there, despite the circumstances. Don't know if chance isn't still there.

  • @francescocantoni5665
    @francescocantoni5665 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for the upload. I find the movements born in the context of the radical reformation, like Shakers and their "cousins" Quakers, really fascinating. While I've watched records of contemporary worship in Sabbathday Lake, this reinterpretation is maybe the thing that looks more like what weas depicted in the old engravings and I can see a vague resemblance to the modern apostolic movements in which assemblies people also dance but they are accompanied by music played with musical instruments and not acapella. At the end, correlation between worshhip and music can be found in many cultures, spacing from king David to derviches tourneur.

  • @stefos6431
    @stefos6431 Před 8 měsíci

    Shakers and Quakers were called so because of their reactions to the Holy Spirit in them during worship and other times.

  • @marymcgarvey4153
    @marymcgarvey4153 Před 3 lety +2

    According to Erik Reese in his book “Utopia Drive”, many Shakers were women because they were widows and abused wives with nowhere to go. Orphans of cholera outbreaks were brought there too.

  • @mstarsg1
    @mstarsg1 Před 7 lety +5

    Beautiful!
    I do have a question.
    I am a novice but from the little that I have read I was not expecting the music to be so highly arranged but to have much simpler unison melodies which, according to the very few sources that I have read, was the norm in Shaker worship.
    I had hoped to hear that when I clicked on this video
    For clarity sake is this singing in the video a modern arrangement or am I mistaken about the use of harmonies and different parts?

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 7 lety +8

      You are correct. The Shakers sang in unison for most of their history. They did eventually adapt the use of harmony and published a couple of 4 part hymnals. This is a modern interpretation of Shaker worship. It is not meant to be a reenactment. It is highly stylized.

  • @paulmichael778
    @paulmichael778 Před 2 lety +1

    God so still love the whole world the Ukraine Nation military still is an so is the world.

  • @michelleknowles700
    @michelleknowles700 Před rokem

    This was quite interesting to watch.

  • @wonderfulyintoxicatinggaur9656

    is there a non choreographed spontaneous shaking of the spirit example anywhere?

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 8 lety +17

      Unfortunately, by the time video was invented, the Shakers were not doing a lot of Shaking anymore. They did
      continue to use sacred movement in the form of choreographed gestures while singing. The only recorded example of this that I know about is a video documentary that shows Sister Mildred Barker singing and demonstrating movement. I have forgotten the name of the documentary but if you google Sister Mildred's name it should pop up. Thanks for watching.

    • @wonderfulyintoxicatinggaur9656
      @wonderfulyintoxicatinggaur9656 Před 8 lety +7

      Ok that what happens to many religious movements which start with the spirit then downgrade to the dryer ritualistic premeditated form. Thanks for responding

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 7 lety +19

      Having been brought up in a Pentecostal church and having moved joined a Presbyterian church as an adult, I have a different viewpoint on why charismatic movements eventually become more subdued with time. There is something in human nature that needs to impose order in the world. Faith communities are no different. We are energized by the ecstaticism but eventually the need to organize necessitates a change in the level of exuberance exercised during worship. For me personally, as I matured in faith, I found a sense of God's presence in joyous celebratory worship, in quiet reflective worship, and in silence. God is present when I'm clapping my hands and when I'm sitting still. The living waters are flowing in whatever type of worship service I find myself and I can find something there to fill my soul.

    • @maninthewilderness5795
      @maninthewilderness5795 Před 5 lety +14

      I think enforced celibacy and the putting asunder of Husband and Wives when they joined the Shaker Sect probably doomed them. Mother Ann (the founder of the sect) crossed a Spiritual line when she forbade marriage. Mother Ann Lee "went beyond what was written" (1 Cor. 4:6) to make up and enforce extra Biblical injunctions upon her people. Hebrews 13: 4 tells us plainly that God considers "Marriage is honourable in all". The Shakers prospered for a while but like all sects that go against Scripture they eventually came to nothing.
      Ok I will shut up and stop preaching.

    • @dancingsocrates9491
      @dancingsocrates9491 Před 5 lety +3

      ​@@donnar.phillips6795A lot of it probably has to do with an aging group. If there are no baby Shakers or young Shakers to fill in the ranks then the energetic dancing turns into something that the group can do together.

  • @aquajuwel7098
    @aquajuwel7098 Před 2 lety +2

    I find it very interesting, on the other hand, a little spooky actually. Especially with the screaming and wild behavior in the worship, very similar to some evangelical Christians today, like the Toronto blessing movement.

    • @gaymichaelis7581
      @gaymichaelis7581 Před 2 lety

      I totally agree with you some, Aqua Juwel! Does that not drive the spirit away perhaps?!

  • @zebdoz333
    @zebdoz333 Před rokem +1

    Well I can see where the Pentecostal church gets sow of their moves, glad I am not religious myself

  • @andywaynebrooks
    @andywaynebrooks Před 7 lety +4

    this is amazingly weird and hypnotic..

  • @jwmchannels
    @jwmchannels Před 8 lety +4

    Brilliant.

  • @zizipop3703
    @zizipop3703 Před rokem +2

    Its sad to see such beauty and at the same time to go against the very first commandment "be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" - false doctrine is corrupting and brought about the Shakers demise! What in the world were they thinking? God created sex and afterwards said it was all good! We do not need to improve on His design. Sad indeed! Aberrations will not withstand the test of time not matter how intriguing.

  • @tango-bravo
    @tango-bravo Před 3 lety +1

    Can we get these lyrics??

  • @katelynncohick4281
    @katelynncohick4281 Před 2 lety

    the songs what are there names besides come to zion and simple gifts

  • @elizabethdavis3574
    @elizabethdavis3574 Před 5 měsíci

    Misleading. It's not a Shaker worship service but a theatrical performance. Fine as that, but NOT a documentary and does not portray either original or present shaker worship

  • @oregonjaycee4525
    @oregonjaycee4525 Před 9 lety +7

    This is "staged"? Or am I watching REAL Shakers perform.. either way, it's beautiful.

    • @sunnydae9748
      @sunnydae9748 Před 8 lety +3

      this is staged.

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 8 lety +8

      Yes, this is a staged performance. While the last 3 living Shakers reside in Sabathday Lake Village in Main, the last Shaker to live at Shaker Village of Pleasant Hill where this work was performed died in 1923. Thank you for watching.

  • @williamcutter3346
    @williamcutter3346 Před rokem

    who are the composers? arrangers? why are they not credited?

  • @Mr91495osh
    @Mr91495osh Před 2 lety

    Didn’t they get the name SHAKERS from their style of dancing?

  • @lanparty6370
    @lanparty6370 Před 2 měsíci

    It's crazy that a lot of other videos make Shakers out to be the worst or weirdest denomination, and this video says otherwise because I thought it was beautiful
    People like to stim when they are anxious, so maybe Ann Lee was on to something and "shaking your sins away" was an 18th century way of doing that

  • @burtcollins239
    @burtcollins239 Před 6 lety

    Doest anyone know where I can get a recording of this?

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety

      Burt Collins, This video is part of a longer Kentucky Education Television (KET) documentary. There was an album of this music produced by the University of Kentucky Choristers but it is in LP form. The LP can be found on Amazon by searching “A Shaker Worship Service.” The sheet Music is out of print but the copyright to it is owned by Warner Brothers.

  • @nighttimehermit8904
    @nighttimehermit8904 Před 6 lety +1

    Not surprising there’s only two known shakers alive is this is their worship style

  • @thedeadterroristachmed62
    @thedeadterroristachmed62 Před 3 lety +1

    who is came from MORE TO READ 1 book?

  • @crazygrainger2006
    @crazygrainger2006 Před 2 lety +1

    It's sad that Shaker Worship and other traditions have died out. Meanwhile, the white fella in Chechnya have held their Sufi Zikr worship in the face of persecution.

  • @ivankaedinger3631
    @ivankaedinger3631 Před 2 lety +3

    Lovely but I wish to see real shakers dance, no singing and choreography.

  • @discountmike8856
    @discountmike8856 Před 2 lety

    C&C Music Factory.

  • @catherinelevison3310
    @catherinelevison3310 Před 5 lety +9

    13:48 if that happened at church I would want to leave.

    • @rockycomet4587
      @rockycomet4587 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, it would be fun to go into convulsions during church.

    • @sf7truthseeker630
      @sf7truthseeker630 Před 4 lety +2

      If that ever happened at church I would have stayed.
      ✝️

  • @maninthewilderness5795
    @maninthewilderness5795 Před 5 lety +3

    The Historical ignorance of some people commenting here is staggering. Anyone with any kind of Education knows that the Shakers died out generations ago.

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 5 lety +9

      Yes this is a staged performance as mentioned in previous discussions; however, there are still two living Shakers who live in a community called Sabbath Day Lake in Maine.

    • @patrickobrien8060
      @patrickobrien8060 Před 3 lety +4

      @@donnar.phillips6795 There are three as of Feb., 2021

  • @rebeccameister3825
    @rebeccameister3825 Před 7 lety

    Are they descendants of the anabaptists ?

    • @williamrushby2140
      @williamrushby2140 Před 6 lety

      The Shakers were not direct descendants of the early Anabaptists but their faith falls within the same radical Protestant tradition. More obvious ancestors of the Shakers were the "French Prophets," rooted in the Huguenot movement known as the Camisards: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camisard

    • @bhilbert11
      @bhilbert11 Před 6 lety +1

      They are a subgroup of shaking Quakers that accepted Mother Ann Lee as a prophet. Ken Burns has an amazing documentary about the Shakers which goes into their history.

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety

      The Shakers were part of a larger Protestant movement but that is their only relationship to the Anabaptists. They were not an offshoot of the Quakers either although their founders, James & Jane Wardley worshiped with the Quakers for a time. Because if this association, the members of The Wardley Society were nicknamed the Shaking Quakers, a derogatory name meant to poke fun at their ecstatic form of worship. Both the Shakers & Quakers came from England and formed out of a Protestant movement away from the Anglican Church (Church of England).

  • @Rayblondie
    @Rayblondie Před 7 lety +2

    This is a performance by chosen people. I wouldn't call it a church worshipping event open to all.

  • @michaelciccone2194
    @michaelciccone2194 Před 3 lety +1

    Sad that men today don't have the desire to live a single chaste celibate life.

    • @dunge0
      @dunge0 Před 3 lety +6

      Well, babies are not brought by storks, are they? It's not sad, it's natural and healthy to choose to live family life and have sex with your wife. There are still many men who choose to live single and celibacy and if it's their choice, it's alright. However, we can't expect all people to live this way, humanity would not last for long 😉

  • @akan626
    @akan626 Před 4 lety +1

    12:10

  • @joanhaines2727
    @joanhaines2727 Před 6 lety +1

    This is nice, but highly inaccurate. The Shakers sing only in unison, never parts or harmony as they believed concentration on that distracted from concentration on the worship itself.

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety +2

      Hi Joan, This is an artistic dramatization that is not meant to be a re-enactment. The songs themselves, the choreography, and the elements of worship presented in this work were painstakingly researched and compiled into this dance/choral presentation. I hope you enjoyed the presentation. It is part of a longer documentary on the Shakers that can be found on Kentucky Education Television (K. E. T.).

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety +2

      I forgot to mention that by the mid 1800’s, the Shakers began to add harmony to their music and published 2 hymnals in four part harmony.

    • @joanhaines2727
      @joanhaines2727 Před 6 lety

      Interesting, but the comment regarding harmony was based on information directly given by the Shaker Village music program docent.

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety +2

      Joan Haines,
      I understand. I was the music programs coordinator at Shaker Village of Pleasant Hill in Kentucky for 15 years. During that 15 years, I thoroughly researched the shakers and their worship practices. I recognize that there is still much to learn about that. The inaccuracies in Shaker interpretation is due in part to the internet and in part because information is passed down orally without the proper research being done or without fact checking. By the mid-1800s, shaker songs written with harmony parts can be found in Shaker song book and have no manuscripts. The latter shakers published to have nails that are completely and four part harmony. In addition, we know that the shakers did not continue dancing either.
      czcams.com/video/euPJzOjffps/video.html

    • @donnar.phillips6795
      @donnar.phillips6795  Před 6 lety +1

      Just like any society, she could stay change and evolve. In the previous email, I attached a CZcams link of sister Mildred Parker one of the shakers is invited to the 20th century demonstrating secret movement. Although the shakers did not continue to dance, they did continue acting out their songs. I hope this is helpful.

  • @reriuqne0-ny1er
    @reriuqne0-ny1er Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lovely, but unfortunately just seems fake.

  • @paulmichael778
    @paulmichael778 Před 2 lety

    So you hear my words not.

  • @bendeguz7629
    @bendeguz7629 Před rokem

    Good acting...

  • @Aladinsane77
    @Aladinsane77 Před 6 lety

    hahahaha really funny, I don't be surprised they have to left England for that LOL

  • @katherinewilliams1875
    @katherinewilliams1875 Před 3 lety +1

    If this is an accurate rendition of their religious services they seem very spiritual and pious until they go into fits of madness. Reading about beliefs it’s clear they aren’t Christians. They seem like spiritualists.

    • @dankeith6522
      @dankeith6522 Před 3 lety +2

      I thought that anyone who believes in the christ, and especially those who await his second arrival(cuz they think he died, came back, and ascended) is, by definition a christian. I believe it is called a sect, much like catholics, methodists, lutherans, and the like. Those who worship or await christ. And they thought of themselves as christians. So, are you the be all of what is christian? Or just not my christian so it's not? Cus I'm not christian, he sounds like a cool dude, like what he said, but I notice alot of christians can't even agree that they worship the same guy. So confusing. Then who would go to heaven?

    • @gaymichaelis7581
      @gaymichaelis7581 Před 2 lety

      Dan, point well taken here!!! I think they were very much Christians! I am a Christian, and I would say they definitely are/were!!! Also!

  • @koan91
    @koan91 Před rokem

    ??? Mental???

  • @nathanstein8572
    @nathanstein8572 Před 6 lety +2

    Pretending at its finest

  • @garymichaelgallien9382
    @garymichaelgallien9382 Před 4 lety +2

    Creepy af.

  • @juelrogers
    @juelrogers Před 4 lety +6

    BEAUTIFUL. :-)

  • @juelrogers
    @juelrogers Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you. That was VERY CLEANSING.+++