This is a fantastic intro to Arc. Not only does it does it tell you about the features but it gives concrete examples of why you should use them (especially around profiles and spaces.) Nice job, thanks. :)
i dont understand the hype around this browser. vivaldi can do all of this for years now. the only thing im not sure is the separate profile and the archiving feature. vivaldi can do workspaces, split screen, taps anywhere you want, note taking, rss feed, email client and a boat load of other things i dont use or remember. essentially it is the spiritual successor of opera before opera switched to chromium. oh and its available on all platforms including mac.
This is very similar to Firefox with add-on Sidebery, which moves the tabs to the left and allows nesting and folders, and renaming of tabs, and very easy yet deep customization. I think Arc is a step in the right direction, but Sidebery does more. Put anotherway, Arc is a dumbed-down version of the Firefox+Sidebery combo. Workspaces is similar to containers in Firefox, a functionality that is easily accessible through Sidebery.
It does, I agree that many features aren't unique to Arc. But the implementation was very well put together, it feels more polished and I appreciate those small touches a lot :)
Does this browser allow full-screen/scrolled screenshots like Firefox? In the rare times you need to print a webpage or export it as a pdf, does the printed website or pdf look exactly how it does onscreen or does it look broken? Some websites look bad when printed or exported as a pdf. Are "Boosts" the same as extensions? Are there third-party extensions available? How does it handle CZcams and videos embedded on other sites? Does Arc have a "Reader" view like Firefox and Safari? What happens if you have so many bookmarks that they push the New Tab bar down below the browser window preventing you from seeing your tabs forcing you to scroll? Also, some people may have hundreds of bookmarks and folders so I don't know if keeping them all on the side with tabs will work for them. We'll have to see. I'm definitely intrigued by Arc. Thanks for the excellent review.
I tried arc for a couple of weeks, but I felt like I was forcing myself to use it. the sidebar was frustrating. I also heavily use multiple websites that have sidebar menus - so having to deal with the arc sidebar along with a sidebar for a website was just too much real estate being taken up. And yes, you can toggle off the sidebar and hide it, but I just felt like I was spending too much headspace and just trying to manage the sidebar. I wasnt a fan of the Split View option, so the alternative is putting 2 arc browsers side by side, just like you would do with any browser when you want 2 tabs next to each other. The problem is, the 2 sidebars from each browser are just too much and in the way. I really tried forcing myself to use it because I did like it, but the sidebar just is not it for me. If they had a top bar, I do think I would make the complete switch over it, but it seems like that will never be an option as the sidebar is what makes it unique.
I randomly discovered you can use a two-button gesture to drag the picture-in-picture around, pinch and pull to adjust its size, and even just swipe to toss it into screen corners.
I thought Arc would be good because it has personalization. Unfortunately, it doesn't offer enough space for bookmarks. And it puts everything in a sidebar -- exactly where it shouldn't be. Let's hope something better comes along.
@@FromSergio I went to the invite on the link in the description, I downloaded the browser, it told me to CREATE account, I put my info to create the account and when I click on Create Account it says “that email is not in our system” and then prompts me to go to the waiting list 😔
12:00 Oh man, please tell me this picture-in-picture mode is optional. I don't want to watch every YT "video" and have it blasted into my face. Firefox makes this good enough for me by letting me have this feature optionally if I click a button
Never heard of this, appreciate the insight per usual. Great topics of discussion- I am always wondering how they MONETIZE. Keep up the great work brother ✊🏼 Many thanks and blessings 🤍🙏🏼🪽
Hey, S, great video. I already have access to ark since a couple o three months, but I have no Mac to taste it! I'm also on the windows waitlist and wondering for the Linux version. Let's see.
Great video, just one note: it seems like the audio isn’t perfectly synchronized to the video, your mouth moves differently than the audio (the video is delayed)
I do use Raycast and Alfred as well so it feels it’s not really important the bookmarks and pinning and shortcuts. Do you think it’s worth the learning curve? Are you still using it till the moment and what about extensions? Dark mode and icloud passwords….?
@@FromSergio nice, i skip that but thought more something like specific privacy features like Brave have, stop website trackers and things like that. (But this can be replaced with some privacy focus extension) So your answer is all i need - TY
I've been using Arc for a few weeks. It's pretty good and all but for a few things I still need to use Chrome, like for making real bookmarks. Arc sidebar is not really great for bookmarks. The app is geared for archiving every site you visit but bookmarking. But I couldn't get used to that. Always easier to find a bookmark in a specifically named folder. Also Arc bookmarks and tabs or whatever the are always loaded. It's like having a lot of tabs open on Chrome. It was making my old Macbook heat up and the fans go crazy. Chrome doesn't do that even with a lot of tabs open. So ultimately I'm not seeing any benefit of using Arc so far. A bookmark-less browser is ultimately less useful, it seems. Unless you can get used to your tabs going away automatically and always checking the archive to see what you weren't finished with. And if you're pinning all your "to do" tabs so Arc doesn't remove them, then you've defeating the whole purpose of such a browser.
To answer some of your concerns - you can find all bookmarks/archived tabs though the command palette, you can also set it so that tabs only get archived after 30 days through Arc's settings. Also, tabs are *only* loaded if you open them. You can pin tabs and keep them closed. But If you do have a lot of tabs open on Arc the ram usage naturally increases, same with every other browser. It's not for everyone and it takes some getting used to but after a few months now I have no desire to use anything else :)
Archive = web history, split screen but you need to turn off tab = chrome can turn full screen using shortcut or just single click, multiple tabs in a group = chrome already has it, peek other tabs without activating it = chrome has this feature long ago, the only thing that everyone wanted in a browser is automatic ad block. The media is kinda a privacy red flag.. bruh, the browser just defaults to access your pc.. the moment I see the arc pricing, instantly I'll stick with chrome..😂
Brave has automatic ad-blocking, and you can have vertical tabs too, with pinned tabs and tab groups arranged the same way Arc does. It's less pretty, but has more features such as bookmark subfolders and an address bar you can actually see.
I tried this a few weeks ago, but man all of the keyboard shortcuts (esp 3-key ones) kill it for me. Heresy, I know. Maybe I'll try again :D But I did want to say thanks for covering the privacy/monetization angle. Not enough people talk about this, but it should be the most important thing.👍
You don't need to make use of all the keyboard shortcuts, I don't use half of them! I also took a couple tries before really seeing its potential :) And yes, I totally agree on privacy/monetization!
Honestly I think most people switching to Arc are Chrome users who never realized how much better Safari is now than it was a few years ago. I was a die-hard Chrome user for years, but switching to Safari was an insane upgrade. With its tab groups (which I use extensively) and the upcoming profiles feature, I feel like my Safari organization/workflow is very similar to what I'm seeing here. There are obviously things it can do that Safari can't, but I can't see myself using them, and I'm not optimistic it'll perform as well as Safari, and I highly doubt I'll prefer a thick sidebar to Safari's super slim top-bar. That said, I'm signed up to try. I was just as skeptical of Google's Inbox at first too and it was one of the best apps ever.
I agree with you to a certain extent. I was also coming from safari, simply used chrome for the extensions that had no safari compatibility. But Arc has a few tricks up its sleeve over safari. It's also being really actively developed with weekly updates. Feel free to give it a try :)
I'd probably give this a try. If it wasn't contributing to the increasing stranglehold of Google on the internet. If they ever make a non-Chromium-based version of this, I might check it out, but until then, no thanks.
At this point the only mainstream rendering engines are Webkit (Apple), Blink (Google), and Gecko (Mozilla). Is it your preference that someone base their browser off of one of the other two engines, that they use one of the lesser engines (e.g., Goanna), or are you hoping someone will build a new rendering engine?
I don’t get the pretended „hype“. Arc is a product that requires a lot of explanation. One has to fundamentally rethink positioning, tabs, bookmarks, which makes it useless for a reasonably efficient onboarding.
I've been stuck to chromium based browsers because of my work. I was using an assortment of different browsers but all chromium (opera, brave, chrome itself, etc)
@@FromSergio 😔 I went to the invite on the link in the description, I downloaded the browser, it told me to CREATE account, I put my info to create the account and when I click on Create Account it says “that email is not in our system” and then prompts me to go to the waiting list 😔
I have been one of the first beta testers and early users more than one year ago, and now I'm moved to Stack Browser, at least because they don't will charge you ANOTHER subscription soon, so be careful.
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This is a fantastic intro to Arc. Not only does it does it tell you about the features but it gives concrete examples of why you should use them (especially around profiles and spaces.) Nice job, thanks. :)
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
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I want to add, u can use the note app of your choice like it lets u add a new note to apple notes or notion instead if u want.
best productivity browser, I’d never sacrifice the new way of doing tabs for bing
100%!
Yay! The invite worked for me! Many thanks for sharing.
I'm glad :)
send me invite
i dont understand the hype around this browser. vivaldi can do all of this for years now. the only thing im not sure is the separate profile and the archiving feature.
vivaldi can do workspaces, split screen, taps anywhere you want, note taking, rss feed, email client and a boat load of other things i dont use or remember. essentially it is the spiritual successor of opera before opera switched to chromium.
oh and its available on all platforms including mac.
It looks like "Archive" is just History.
Ayo! Thanks so much for the invite! can't wait to explore its features...(invite working as of June, 2nd, 2023)
Just saw this, thanks for sharing :)
send me invite please
This is very similar to Firefox with add-on Sidebery, which moves the tabs to the left and allows nesting and folders, and renaming of tabs, and very easy yet deep customization. I think Arc is a step in the right direction, but Sidebery does more. Put anotherway, Arc is a dumbed-down version of the Firefox+Sidebery combo. Workspaces is similar to containers in Firefox, a functionality that is easily accessible through Sidebery.
Oh, the invitation still works (as of 2023-05-31), awesome, ty 👍
ARC is pretty awesome
Thank you man. I´ve been using ARC as a basic user but your insights has helped a lot.
have you given a try to Vivaldi? it has similar functionality
It does, I agree that many features aren't unique to Arc. But the implementation was very well put together, it feels more polished and I appreciate those small touches a lot :)
This was the video who make me fell in love with Arc :) Thank you.
I did not know that they were working on a Windows version of this browser that is great news!
As a windows + Mac user I was equally excited!
Arc just feels like a solution looking for problems. I tried it and much hated the experience.
Simply not for you.
Does this browser allow full-screen/scrolled screenshots like Firefox? In the rare times you need to print a webpage or export it as a pdf, does the printed website or pdf look exactly how it does onscreen or does it look broken? Some websites look bad when printed or exported as a pdf. Are "Boosts" the same as extensions? Are there third-party extensions available? How does it handle CZcams and videos embedded on other sites? Does Arc have a "Reader" view like Firefox and Safari? What happens if you have so many bookmarks that they push the New Tab bar down below the browser window preventing you from seeing your tabs forcing you to scroll? Also, some people may have hundreds of bookmarks and folders so I don't know if keeping them all on the side with tabs will work for them. We'll have to see. I'm definitely intrigued by Arc. Thanks for the excellent review.
I tried arc for a couple of weeks, but I felt like I was forcing myself to use it. the sidebar was frustrating. I also heavily use multiple websites that have sidebar menus - so having to deal with the arc sidebar along with a sidebar for a website was just too much real estate being taken up. And yes, you can toggle off the sidebar and hide it, but I just felt like I was spending too much headspace and just trying to manage the sidebar.
I wasnt a fan of the Split View option, so the alternative is putting 2 arc browsers side by side, just like you would do with any browser when you want 2 tabs next to each other. The problem is, the 2 sidebars from each browser are just too much and in the way.
I really tried forcing myself to use it because I did like it, but the sidebar just is not it for me. If they had a top bar, I do think I would make the complete switch over it, but it seems like that will never be an option as the sidebar is what makes it unique.
I randomly discovered you can use a two-button gesture to drag the picture-in-picture around, pinch and pull to adjust its size, and even just swipe to toss it into screen corners.
can you send me invite?
I thought Arc would be good because it has personalization.
Unfortunately, it doesn't offer enough space for bookmarks. And it puts everything in a sidebar -- exactly where it shouldn't be.
Let's hope something better comes along.
I'm on the list already. It will be a mind changing on how we access the most vast library of the world... the internet.
You can skip the list by using the invite I shared in the description!
@@FromSergio I wish. My actual computer is a PC. But I accept MAC donations! 😂😂
@@FromSergio I went to the invite on the link in the description, I downloaded the browser, it told me to CREATE account, I put my info to create the account and when I click on Create Account it says “that email is not in our system” and then prompts me to go to the waiting list 😔
12:00 Oh man, please tell me this picture-in-picture mode is optional. I don't want to watch every YT "video" and have it blasted into my face. Firefox makes this good enough for me by letting me have this feature optionally if I click a button
Excellent as always!
That's so kind, thank you :)
Never heard of this, appreciate the insight per usual. Great topics of discussion- I am always wondering how they MONETIZE.
Keep up the great work brother ✊🏼
Many thanks and blessings 🤍🙏🏼🪽
Thanks Charles! :)
Great demo video, thanks for making it much better than other videos
Thanks, glad it was helpful! :)
great video, and thanks for the invitation link mate really appreciate it!
Just saw this, glad you liked it :)
Brilliant review thank you matey! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Appreciate it :)
Great video! Do you still use arc as your main browser? Or have you switched to something else?
i love that many of these features, firefox already have them heheheh
Hey, S, great video. I already have access to ark since a couple o three months, but I have no Mac to taste it! I'm also on the windows waitlist and wondering for the Linux version. Let's see.
Hey Fuentes! Windows should be shipped in 2023, Linux should come later I'm afraid! I'm also a Windows user and can't wait to have it there as well!
Nice UI. But Firefox have most of this features.
Great video, just one note: it seems like the audio isn’t perfectly synchronized to the video, your mouth moves differently than the audio (the video is delayed)
Really? Are you not wearing bluetooth headphones? I've never had anyone else mention this :/
Good video
I do use Raycast and Alfred as well so it feels it’s not really important the bookmarks and pinning and shortcuts. Do you think it’s worth the learning curve? Are you still using it till the moment and what about extensions? Dark mode and icloud passwords….?
Interesting, this features sound nicely only i need windows version and know what they think about privacy
I covered privacy at the end, Windows version is expected for later this year!
@@FromSergio nice, i skip that but thought more something like specific privacy features like Brave have, stop website trackers and things like that.
(But this can be replaced with some privacy focus extension)
So your answer is all i need - TY
No Linux version.... Not even windows 😢
Windows should be coming in the next couple of months, before the end of the year. No plans for Linux as far as I know!
I mean, Safari does pretty much all of these things… I’m sticking to it.
I've been using Arc for a few weeks. It's pretty good and all but for a few things I still need to use Chrome, like for making real bookmarks. Arc sidebar is not really great for bookmarks. The app is geared for archiving every site you visit but bookmarking. But I couldn't get used to that. Always easier to find a bookmark in a specifically named folder. Also Arc bookmarks and tabs or whatever the are always loaded. It's like having a lot of tabs open on Chrome. It was making my old Macbook heat up and the fans go crazy. Chrome doesn't do that even with a lot of tabs open. So ultimately I'm not seeing any benefit of using Arc so far. A bookmark-less browser is ultimately less useful, it seems. Unless you can get used to your tabs going away automatically and always checking the archive to see what you weren't finished with. And if you're pinning all your "to do" tabs so Arc doesn't remove them, then you've defeating the whole purpose of such a browser.
To answer some of your concerns - you can find all bookmarks/archived tabs though the command palette, you can also set it so that tabs only get archived after 30 days through Arc's settings. Also, tabs are *only* loaded if you open them. You can pin tabs and keep them closed. But If you do have a lot of tabs open on Arc the ram usage naturally increases, same with every other browser. It's not for everyone and it takes some getting used to but after a few months now I have no desire to use anything else :)
Archive = web history, split screen but you need to turn off tab = chrome can turn full screen using shortcut or just single click, multiple tabs in a group = chrome already has it, peek other tabs without activating it = chrome has this feature long ago, the only thing that everyone wanted in a browser is automatic ad block. The media is kinda a privacy red flag.. bruh, the browser just defaults to access your pc.. the moment I see the arc pricing, instantly I'll stick with chrome..😂
Brave has automatic ad-blocking, and you can have vertical tabs too, with pinned tabs and tab groups arranged the same way Arc does. It's less pretty, but has more features such as bookmark subfolders and an address bar you can actually see.
I tried this a few weeks ago, but man all of the keyboard shortcuts (esp 3-key ones) kill it for me. Heresy, I know. Maybe I'll try again :D But I did want to say thanks for covering the privacy/monetization angle. Not enough people talk about this, but it should be the most important thing.👍
You don't need to make use of all the keyboard shortcuts, I don't use half of them! I also took a couple tries before really seeing its potential :) And yes, I totally agree on privacy/monetization!
Can't you just change the keyboard shortcuts in the settings?
Ark sounds like a very useful tool.
Possibly can get a reply when it becomes available for Windows?
We don't yet have a date but 2023 seems likely
Really a shame the don't have a windows version yet, I'm tempted to switch teams for this browser.
They say it'll be released later this year!
sounds like an app for ppl with Severe OCD
Honestly I think most people switching to Arc are Chrome users who never realized how much better Safari is now than it was a few years ago. I was a die-hard Chrome user for years, but switching to Safari was an insane upgrade. With its tab groups (which I use extensively) and the upcoming profiles feature, I feel like my Safari organization/workflow is very similar to what I'm seeing here. There are obviously things it can do that Safari can't, but I can't see myself using them, and I'm not optimistic it'll perform as well as Safari, and I highly doubt I'll prefer a thick sidebar to Safari's super slim top-bar. That said, I'm signed up to try. I was just as skeptical of Google's Inbox at first too and it was one of the best apps ever.
I agree with you to a certain extent. I was also coming from safari, simply used chrome for the extensions that had no safari compatibility. But Arc has a few tricks up its sleeve over safari. It's also being really actively developed with weekly updates. Feel free to give it a try :)
Would you mind sharing the name of the command palette app that you use for Chrome?
Paletro!
I like some of the ideas but its only available for mac users, which I am not.
Should be in windows very soon
@@FromSergio what about linux?
I didn't quite catch the name of the command pallete app you use for Chrome. Does anyone know the name of this app?
It's Paletro!
can you invite me to arc?
built on chrome? Does it have resource problems that chrome does?
Considerably less resource heavy than chrome!
I'd probably give this a try. If it wasn't contributing to the increasing stranglehold of Google on the internet. If they ever make a non-Chromium-based version of this, I might check it out, but until then, no thanks.
Fair enough! Very understandable :)
At this point the only mainstream rendering engines are Webkit (Apple), Blink (Google), and Gecko (Mozilla). Is it your preference that someone base their browser off of one of the other two engines, that they use one of the lesser engines (e.g., Goanna), or are you hoping someone will build a new rendering engine?
Resistance is futile. Chromium won long ago, for better or worse
I must be particularly dense today, but I don't see an invite for Arc?
I linked the MKBHD tweet in the description where the invite is :)
@@FromSergio Ah, now it says invite. 🤣
Thanks.
E: Excellent, I'm in!
EE: And Paletro is amazing, too, thanks!
I don’t get the pretended „hype“. Arc is a product that requires a lot of explanation. One has to fundamentally rethink positioning, tabs, bookmarks, which makes it useless for a reasonably efficient onboarding.
You used Chrome before switching to Arc? 😁
Of cource, the last one would seem eons better.
I've been stuck to chromium based browsers because of my work. I was using an assortment of different browsers but all chromium (opera, brave, chrome itself, etc)
Can you please send me a new invite? The old one isn't working any more.
Be quick!
arc.net/gift/b9b1d46e
All these functions seem like they're resource-heavy.
I've been daily driving it on an M1 Max Mac Studio and the base model M1 air and there's no difference in performence!
Is it an open source browser though?
It is not unfortunately
I've been on the waitlist for months! Anyone know how to get it?
There's a free invite in the description.
@@FromSergio 😔 I went to the invite on the link in the description, I downloaded the browser, it told me to CREATE account, I put my info to create the account and when I click on Create Account it says “that email is not in our system” and then prompts me to go to the waiting list 😔
@@alexabianny No more waitlist!
I have been one of the first beta testers and early users more than one year ago, and now I'm moved to Stack Browser, at least because they don't will charge you ANOTHER subscription soon, so be careful.
The Arc team has made it clear they plan to adopt a Notion-type business model where the base product is free, forever. I covered this at the end.
Are you trying to advocate against Google Chrome?
seems cool but we dont need another chrome browser
Meh... Not so special. Brave Browser is the best so far.
Too bad it's not cross-platform (including Linux I mean)
Yeah, but it's amazing (at least, on macOS). Can't wait for it to be ready on Linux, too.
Hopefully Linux will come next year!
Hopefully, haven't heard anything about Linux in the things I've heard here and there about Arc
Mac? *just puked