Salt Water Swimming Pools - Myths & Truths you Need to Know
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In this video I dispel some commonly held Myths about a salt Water Pool. Often referred to as Salt Water Generators. There are several videos on CZcams on this subject so I decided to weigh in myself. One-third of my pool route -- roughly 35 pools are Salt Water Pools. So I have lots of practical real world experience with salt pools. My personal pool is also a salt pool and has been for the past nine years.
Some of the benefits are:
A good chlorine level all of the time.
Softer water and no chemical smells.
You get away from handling chemicals that are known carcinogens.
Makes maintaining your pool much easier.
Salt Water Generators are reliable and easy to operate (most of them are reliable).
Eliminates the need for shocking your pool. Most Salt water Generators will have a Super Chlorinate mode.
Some of the drawbacks:
Higher cost of maintaining your pool.
A slight learning curve.
Some cities restrict draining a salt water pool.
PH will constantly rise in a salt pool.
Cannot be installed in a pool with copper pipes.
So after watching the video I hope you feel more confident about making a more informed decision if a salt water generator is right for you or not. If you have questions or need help picking out the right salt system you can comment here or contact me on my website and I will further assist you.
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Been a pool tech for many years, and it is so refreshing to listen to someone who knows what they are talking about.
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Google1 User unfortunately the video you linked shares only part of the story. As an instructor with the National Swimming Pool Foundation I can say some of the information provided in the linked video is true, but much of it is based off of “industry experience” which is highly subjective. The science shows that salt systems are effective and shouldn’t be considered “scary” the way that many in the industry want consumers to believe they are. The biggest key to solving every problem address in the linked video is the installation of an in-line sacrificial anode. The anode will basically take the hit instead of your components. I would be very leery on trusting a source that is trying to sell an alternative product that makes its money off of trying to tarnish the reputation of salt systems.
Don’t get me wrong, there are issues with salt pools as there are with other systems, but they just aren’t as bad as the linked video makes them out to be at all.
@@therealalexstewart It's not salt water we wind up swimming in. We still swim in chlorinated water in the so called salt water pools. Mineral ionization is the best and only a tiny bit of chlorine is occasionally added. Corruption, lies and cheats are everywhere both with credentials, certifications, etc. and without them. Plenty of crooks have all their certificates, diplomas and BS PhD degrees.
Google1 Of course users are swimming in chlorinated water! The process is called electrolysis, the act converting salt into sodium hypochlorite. Literally no company in the world hides this fact that a salt pool is a chlorinated pool. And you are sadly mistaken if you think ionization is the only alternative process to sanitizing a pool. UV, Advanced Oxidation Process, Ozone Generation, all do the exact same sanitation. Literally. And you also have to remember that ionization will only cut it if it is in a backyard pool. Commercial facilities forbid ionization as the primary source of sanitation in most states because the science proves that secondary sanitation only inactivates pathogens in-line. If you don’t have disinfectant residual in the body of water, you are a sitting duck for RWI’s like Cryptosporidium, giardia, and shigella. And I hate to say it, but .5 ppm Of residual chlorine isn’t going to prevent the spread of these illnesses if they come into contact with your swimmers before they go through the ionization unit. Again, please look at all factors before defending just ionization. Ionization is great but it would be foolish for any pool professional to say there should only be one option for all swimming environments in regard to sanitation. If you’d like to learn more about alternatives and options, I strongly suggest you attend a Certified Pool Operator course, or better yet, the World Aquatic Health Conference.
@@therealalexstewart From what I've heard the mineral ionization system is the least expensive and best way to swim in as close to plain pure H2O as possible for the private pool. I've spoken to public pool operators who used only chlorine for years and then later added the mineral ionization system. They said the chlorine needed was cut in half if not more, as was their expenses. I hear UV and ozone was very expensive and ozone is nasty toxic. Basically, I'm trying to find the least expensive way to swim in a five lane 35 - 75 meter lap pool so the water has the least amount of nasty chlorine chemical or any other nasty chemical like the bromine pools many people like to brag about. We enjoy fresh water and ocean water swimming. Thanks
Excellent short and concise video, I wish you had made note of the pros / cons of the ‘feeling’ of a salt v chlorine pool when swimming against your skin and eyes. I prefer salt,.
We are buying a house with a newer in ground salt water pool. Never owned and cared for a pool before. I appreciate your videos and will utilize them in my new adventure. Many thanks for the education.
Glen Rairden i work in a pool factory in Australia all I notice about people who have pools ! They are always forking our huge amounts of cash ! They seem like a huge liability
@@iamasmurf1122 No doubt, pools aren't inexpensive to maintain but the recreational pleasure, family time and partys have a way of balancing out the cost vs living a valuable life quotient.
Salt Water Swimming Pools - Myths and Truths you Need to Know: Here is a video covering some common misconceptions of a salt Water Pool known also as a Salt System or a Salt Water Generator.
Good, mark.
+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 Really great and informative video but I'm thinking about getting a pool built at my home and was wondering what your thoughts are on UV pool systems?
Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 How big is the The pool
Additionally , the salt water is easier on the hair, skin and clothing than traditional trichlor sanitized pools.
With reduced cost now, I think it is no longer more expensive for a salt water generator than chemicals, it is probably a wash at least for lower end systems even including replacement cells. I was running liquid chlorine, but the convenience of the SWG is what sold me when I'm not home everyday.
Two years later, the cells are only about 500 to replace, and look how much chlorine tabs are now! Salt water is definitely the cheapest maintenance option
@@Acreyman Bingo!! The price of chlorine has skyrocketed...love my $6.00 bags of 40lb salt.
@@Acreyman what about using liquid chlorine as he suggested?
Most people with salt pools believe there pool is chlorine free. I have had them freak out when they see me try to pour a 2.5 gallon jug of liquid chlorine in their "salt pool." It was cool to learn that a salt pool adds 1 gallon of chlorine to the pool per day. That sounds about right.
Actually, there is no such thing as a salt pool. A pool is a pool. People with a "Salt Pool" are just dumping salt in their pool so that the chlorine generator can make CHLORINE!
Thanks for your honest explanation of the topic.
How do you like the copper/ silver mineral ionization systems? People tell me they're great. Fish can even stay alive in them. I hear they're as good as UV and less expensive too. Thank you
Thank you for answering my question about ph. In the 4 years we have owned our salt pool and dealing with 2 pool companies I complained about the Ph being high all the time. Thankfully you said that is a byproduct of the salt. I use acid from the paint department in Walmart to lower it.
You can also add Borates to your salt pool at a level of 30-40 ppm to help control the pH
Just add Muratic Acid, and it will lower the PH
Thanks for the video David! Mine is a salt pool..for 6 years now! You helped me sooo much...Nikki in arkansas😊
No problem. Glad your pool is looking so much better now.
cost about $300 for initial set up of salt, we love ours
I have a SWP, Love it, Hayward stuff eh. I have put in four bags thus far this year--it’s August. Rain can have an effect so check after heavy rain. Salt cell is expensive. Ph is easy to control, buy liquid, a it-cheaper. The SWP is easier on the eyes.
Informative, however an important factor was missed- Travertine decking (and coping) are not friends of salt....period. If you are planning a travertine patio or coping there's only one option- chlorine and fresh water.
Thanks! Very helpful and informative
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In the Northeast since you drain your pool and it gets diluted with rain and snow, then I have to add about 8-9 bags of salt after opening each and every year.
You should have discussed the salt build up in location where pool is backwashed. Every time you backwash a salt pool, that salt is deposited into yard.
Good information.. Because science.. Thanks.
I’ve just discovered your channel and I’m impressed and will subscribe
I’m a pool builder but truly a pool guy working in service and retailing but starting with pool ownership
Thank you
Thank you for the great feedback!
The salt water pool is much cheaper to maintain than a chlorine pool. I had both and can say without doubt I saved money...
I eliminated chlorine purchases and saved electricity, as I found that I could run the pump less, My generator lasted over ten years, just cleaned it once a year or so,. I bought an extra bag of salt when I switched over and used less than half of it over several years. I would also recommend a pool cover, as that saved me even more money.
Great feedback! 👍
Need to do one on natural pool
Thanks for the great videos!! Does a titanium pool heater still need a one-way check valve?
For a salt system it is a good idea.
What about using natural products like baking soda and pink sea salt?
Baking soda is fine, as any products labeled for raising alkalinity in a pool are sodium bicarbonate aka baking soda. Can't speak for pink sea salt but I imagine it wouldn't be worth the additional costs
Thank you for this video. Pros & cons well explained.
David, I need to drain and refill my plaster pool with fresh water due to CYA >200 and Hardness >500. Plaster looks good, no acid wash required. At the same time I want to convert it to salt pool. I already bought and installed Pentair iChlor which is currently in bypass mode and switched off. What's the procedure? Drain, fill, balance, shock - like any other pool? And then just dump salt in pool and turn on the system?
Yes, that is correct. Add the salt once it is completely refilled and wait 24 hours to turn the iChlor system on. Great choice on a salt system and the iChlor is top notch. As a bonus, you won't have to ever drain again due to high CYA.
@@SPL Great, thanks! I'm also looking into Pentair IntelliChem vs. IntelliPH. Do you think it's worth overpaying for IntelliChem? The only difference I could find is that Chem can probe actual FCL and pH live and adjust iChlor output and acid pump for you. Whereas IntelliPH is pretty dumb requiring manual adjustment.
Nice video. I loved our pool when it was salt water but did not realize that our porous limestone coping did not mix with the salt. After a couple of years, the coping started to breakdown into sand. Tried the expensive sealing product which lasted about 6 months so went back to chlorine, but use bleach as my main source instead of the trichlor.
Yes, salt is not for every pool. But bleach is a perfect alternative.
Did you seal your pavers and the coping?
Now that is a good ad
My salt cell is 12 years old and works fine
Need a recommendation on a swg. 12,500 gallons. Pump:Intelliflo Filter:Hayward s-200 sand Plumbing: single 2” input single 1.5” out. 20 Hour operation at ~1800rpm. Skimming modes for about 2 hours a day. Would be doing a self install. I thought the ichlor30 model would be a great fit given the integration, despite the lack of warranty. Then I saw the reviews on amazon, What’s your take on this model? Looks like Hayward (low flow) or circupool (7 year warranty) might be better?
Currently using 12.5% bleach and supplementing with tabs.
I get a reading of 7250 for PPM S and 9590 for TDS, that seems off the charts????? Can someone tell me what this actually means?
How often do you have to drain a salt water pool? (In Georgia)
Awesome video so informative. I’m doing an owner builder pool and was gonna a have the worker install this for 1400 but don’t even know which one it is. It’s probably better that I get a good be and install it myself right if I’m a dyi er
Would suggest the Jandy TruClear or Pentair iChlor
Pool pump is not running fine has more cavitation that my outboard motor
You should have added that having a salt water pool is MUCH easier for the homeowner to take care of. No harsh chemicals to handle, no daily testing.
Very true.
Come to Australia we lead the world in this technology, miles ahead of ant system currently on sale in the USA
Seriously. That is where it all began.
Chlorine tablets are a carcinogen but chlorine from a SWG is not??
Exactly. I thought the same thing. It is the same except it has stabilizer added to tabs. This means you have to manually add cyunaric acid to salt pools because salt does not have it.
Which do you prefer? Great video by the way!
I like salt only for the convenience factor. The only real benefit is that it adds chlorine for you each day. That is enough for me though.
Hi.. I’m buying a home and having a pool installed.. I heard that there may be a shortage of chlorine soon .. was wondering if you heard that and is salt water a better option today .. being that this video was made 7 years ago.. thank you
If you can afford it salt is the way to go. No worries about chlorine or shortages thereof. 👍
This video is a bit old at this point. Curious what the cost comparison is looking like these days? I've heard chlorine is pretty pricey these days, and salt is cheaper to run now than it once was. I think the initial equipment/conversion cost is still a bit higher though. We're looking at a new build. I like the feel of salt pool, so leaning that way, just want to understand the pros/cons.
Chlorine will always be cheaper but for the convenience factor Salt wins. I wouldn't base the decision on price and savings but on the overall pool experience. In that case go with salt.
@@SPL This was my question thank you.
Is there any instance where you could have a saltwater pool without a chlorine generator?
Thank you EVERY time I need pool questions answered your videos have served me well so thank you.
I suspect the membrane on heater has fried bye now...
I have a SW Pool and my water has always been crystal clear however, I do vacuum and test it regularly. If my chemicals are all good, is there a "Need" to shock it? Thanks for your advice:)
There are better to use up north places like Florida with the high heat and the amount of rain makes them work too hard and not too efficient . Even when you oversize the cell
I'm getting mixed answers on my salt chlorinator. I have a 240v pump and obviously the Cl gen is 120v. if i put a pump timer on, it appears to me the chlorinator has a flow switch and shuts itself off. syncing 2 timers would be kind of silly. mines a hayward aquatrol (looks very similar to yours)
In cold months, is the reading low or does the system not function as efficiently as it does in warmer months. Mine is low in December but my pool guy says it’s common in the colder months.
Thanks!
SWG use an electrical current to generate chlorine - in cold water electricity does not conduct well so if the water is below 60 degrees most systems can't produce.
Good video Thanks! , I learned something new!!!
Is there any difference in water evaporation rate between salt and chemical pool? What's the average cost for a large bag of pool salt? Nice vid
+taskforceripper91 No difference in evaporation. You can get the salt at Home Depot or Walmart. Around $6-$8 per bag. After the initial charge you don't need to add much each season.
Great video! A lot of good information. Thank you. When is time to add more salt to the pool, why you do that? Around the perimeter directly to the pool or skimmer? Eric - Florida
I usually will add salt in my area after the rain season is over which is late April or early May. Also, the water temp is in the 70's so I know the salinity reading will be accurate. I always clean the salt cells first then if they still read low I will add salt. Depending on the system it will tell me the salinity reading or I will check it manually with a test strip. I dump the salt around the pool out of habit but it is very quick dissolving anyway. In a few minutes it is gone. Add more only if needed as in some cases you don't need to.
Hey David, I have a few salt pools and I noticed on a pool that there's small white flakes in the pool. Any idea what it is and how to get rid of it? Thanks.
phosphates...treat and clean cell
Is salt 99.4% pure enough for use in a pool? I read somewhere that the minimum quality is 99.8%
What's the minimum purity try I can use?
You can only use bags marked "Pool Salt" - if you use an impure salt it could stain the pool surface.
@@SPL Thank you. In Italy we cannot find such margins on the salt. The best that we can find is the NaCl content %. Should I refrain from buying 99.4% quality or is it ok?
How often do you need to add the salt? Thanks.
It doesn't evaporate so not much needs to be added each season.
Thanks again for this video. We found out that out pool plumbing has been changed to PVC pipes. We are thinking about converting to Salt Water. The pool is about 25000 Gal. You mentioned some newer model have a Acid pump build in. What model would you suggest for the LA area?
I have this salt system at my house (Nexa Pure). I installed it last year and it is working great. This model comes with a pH pump that you can plumb in.
www.activepoolsupply.com/product/nexa-pure-salt-chlorine-generator-with-x5-cell-and-ph-clear-system-40000-gallons--305-nx-x5-ph/4908 (Just a random search)
You can also go with the Pentair IC40 and Pentiar's acid pump - www.poolsupplyworld.com/Pentair-521377-IntellipH-Canister-with-Controller/521377.htm
Autopilot also makes a salt system with a pH pump: www.autopilot.com/
I've seen it but for some reason I can't find it on their website.
There are also many companies that make an acid/pH pump similar to the Pentair one.
Hi David,
Hope everything is well for you there.
I replaced the main board and display board in my AquaRite system and the unit says that it is generating chlorine. It is too soon to tell if it actually is working as I just got it installed yesterday. Anyway, can you tell me how hot the exterior of the box should be? I can rest my hand on the top for several seconds before I have to remove it. Testing it with my electronic thermometer shows the outside of the box gets to (between) 102 to 109 degrees. The pump runs about 120 degrees. I understand that the current limiter gets very, very hot (up to 429 degrees F). Looking at blogs I found many people asking the same question and from what I can tell it is not unusual and that they boxes run hot. I also noticed that people do not discover the heat until they change the board and are paying attention to it.
So what do you think?
Thanks,
Barry
Those boxes have a known defect- got a confession out of a Hayward Rep. I don't condone this but my neighbor after replacing two boards do to overheating drilled holes in the back of the cover to vent the circuit board. He just covers it in the Winter to keep water out. Seems to have worked for him. He also runs his pool late at night and early am - he thinks running it in the heat of the day will also increase the temp. But the same rep informed me that the issue has been corrected and all new circuit boards have better spacing between the circuits now...
Thanks David. I may put a PC fan in the box and some holes in the bottom with a mesh to keep bugs out. I would also add a skirt around the bottom to keep rain out. I'll let you know what I do.
any recommendations on salt cells/systems based on your experience?
I like the Pentair iChlor and Jandy TruClear. Both are using the best and latest technology.
I just installed a software system why is my stainless railing rusting it 304 its indoor exercise 8×12 48" high it 3monts old
Please let me know what I can do THANKS
Note that not all Stainless Steel is of the same quality. My guess is that the rail the was installed used inferior or low quality stainless steel. That is why it is rusting so fast in your pool. You may want to replace it with a railing of another material.
Hi, very informative. Can you send me any links that show that Trichlor Tablets are carcinogenic? Thank you!!
www.institutefornaturalhealing.com/2014/06/are-these-deadly-carcinogens-lurking-in-your-pool/
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I have a chlorine inground pool with travertine/slate pool decking . Chlorine levels are at 0.6 ppm using the Pool Rx system in my impeller basket. Silky smooth water and no problems 5 yrs out. I am the pool guy. Salt water systems are not necessary for silky smooth water , I wear gloves and a mask when adding chlorine tabs, a 15 second step once a week or less.
They are not for everyone. Seems like you got it down to a science. 👍
Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL Thanks for your review of the PoolRx. I have not bought any algaecide in years .
I know this video is old but I’ve been watching all of your videos as I have a new pool being put in. I’m going to start with someone serving my pool as I get more comfortable with the chemistry and everything. My question is I hear a lot of horror stories about pool guys not being very good. How do I vet a pool service to ensure they are doing everything correctly?
Usually get a referral from a friend or neighbor. If the guy or gal is no good they won't refer them.
@@SPL
Hey man I have a really important question. I’m having a pool put in that has in floor cleaning. It doesn’t have a skimmer and I was told that is a really bad design. Is that true?
With the cost of Chlorine Tabs being up to $250.00 for a 100lb bucket. Do you feel Chlorine Tabs are cheaper than a Salt Pool in current market conditions?
$250 a year x 5 years vs $800 for a salt cell that will last 5 years. That assuming 100lb bucket of chlorine tabs would be enough for a year.
I would like to know your thoughts as I have a Salt Pool and family members are wanting to build a pool. I think Salt Pools are a better value in the long run.
I think in the long run a salt pool is a better option. Depending on the pool size the salt cell can even last 8-10 as some of the newer systems are rated for 15,000 hours of use (cell life). I would go with salt at the onset.
I have an Intex Sand & Salt system code 93 came up on it last night. Can't find any info on that code. 91 & 92 I can find all over you tube but not 93. Can anyone help me?
Would You recommend getting a salt system for a new inground vinyl liner pool ( galvanized steel wall construction)?
Not recommended for liners with metal walls.
How do I Shock a salt water pool? Do you always use a shock chemical ?
With liquid chlorine.
My Hayward system has a switch that doubles the amount of Chlorine it produces for 24 hours. That shocks the pool. Plus you can shock it the same as a chlorine pool.
I have an older pool with copper pipes. Will a salt system cause the pipes to deteriorate prematurely ?
Not recommended for pools with copper pipes.
I have a Solexx Retro no plumbing no Electric hook ups 249.00 5 bags of salt to start works great, Just plug it in and watch it make chlroine. I have a 20,00 gal. pool
Nice!👍
Do you still suggest this to be installed in a commercial pool i own?
Yes, they make larger units for Commercial use. It would be a good idea.
Is there any pool system that does not use chlorine?
Ozone
Ozone is .5 ppm chlorine with the occasional addition of chlorine.
Baquacil is chlorine free. Hydrogen peroxide based product and it's what i prefer over any other sanitizers
I have had a completely different experience. Most of the salt pools on our route of 133 pools have experienced some sort of damage to the stonework or equipment due to salt water. Just giving my input based on my experience...not trying to start an argument. Salt is corrosive regardless of how or where it is used...basic science. Everything else in the video I agree with.
No arguments here. It can be corrosive - thanks for your feedback. 👍
Thanks brother...keep up the good work.
Funny I see probably 600 pools a season, many with salt generators. I do see things corroding like ladder sockets, brass popups and sometimes stonework but doing this for 35 years I've seen it happening before salt systems were prevalent. One thing I will say, most valves, fittings, anchors, etc aren't made very well and some of the older pools actually had bronze sockets, even the rubber used in o-rings seemed to be better. I really wonder which is a larger contributor to corrosion, inferior products or the salt or a whole other matter, the pH. Seen low pH eat brass valves up in a month yet brass valves made in the 60's lasted for years on the same poo so go figure.
I vote for inferior manufacturing. 👍
can i add HTH shock treatment to my above ground pool with a SWG?
I would prefer you use liquid chlorine or household bleach only as the shock can stain or make the pool cloudy.
Such as straight chlorox?
Yes.
Do I actually need calcium in a saltwater pool? Does the salt replace the mineral need for the water? In other words, can I fill my pool with only my house water which is connected to a water softener?
Regardless if you have a salt pool or not the Calcium Hardness in a plaster type surface pool should be around 150-200. So if it lower than that I would raise it up.
I have been researching pools for a few months now. What is a good aboveground 24' pool for about $3-4000? I am thinking salt water. Maybe you could give me a couple to pick from. Is a kit pool good to buy?
Something like this would be ideal. amzn.to/2NNOXHx
salt water pools cost less to run and less time maintaining it and the chemicals, I have two salt water pools, one of them I just converted this year because of cost and labor.
Id say it depends. If you have very hard water with high total dissolved solids like we do in so cal in the summer when the water supply primarily comes from the colorado system. This causes very rapid deposit buildup on the cells and there isnt much you can do about it. I actually reverted back to Chlorine and spend exactly 2-3 minutes a week on water Chem. About the only way around this is with an RO system installed or periodically treated w a truck based system.
I would have to disagree with that statement depending on where you live. I live in the Sacramento area and to keep chlorine in my pool all day even with conditioner I must run my pump 6-8 hours daily and its closer to 8. The system I have is 13 years old and probably not quite as efficient as newer models but I am still running my pump a long time. Warranties on salt cells are short too. I love the salt water pool but for an owner who maintains his own pool I am converting to Chlorine and moving away from Salt. Oh, I forgot to mention, anything you have that is metal and will rust, WILL rust if you have it anywhere in the vicinity of a salt pool
They definitely do not cost less to run. If anything they’re 20-30% more expensive to run
@@stephenajones4438 Is converting to a salt water pool worth the extra expense?
@@mabryfamily1720I'm not sure. If you or no one else has complained I wouldn't change a thing. The price of salt cells has added up over the years. When everything is working it's great. But when there is a problem be ready to shell out some money. I'm hoping technology has gotten much better since I first had my pool installed. If not, i will be converting to tabs. Short story. When my goddaughter was about 7 we went swimming at a friends pool. Before I left i couldn't even go under water without it feeling like I was swimming in a pool of pepper spray. 30 minutes later I was home swimming in my own pool and my eyes never got irritated.
I work at a hotel we have like 8 cells but rn i think the arent working the sanitizing output leds do not turn on should i reset the system ..? I have cleaned them with acid but still not producing .. so i had to use chlorine tablets .. and the chlorine doesnt hold up either i have a salt water pool any suggestions ? Could the cell be damaged just the flow and cell lights are turned on.. sometimes the sanitizing output comes on and turns back of but never stays on
It depends on the system. Is there a phone number you can call for the manufacturer?
Check for phosphates as well of you aren't holding chlorine.
One question, is a salt system as effective as a chlorine system for bacteria loads??
Yes. It generate the same chlorine found in a gallon of liquid chlorine.
Quick question, is it true that someone who dyed their hair platinum blonde should swim in a saltwater pool instead of a chlorine pool or else the platinum blonde will get a green tint?
Only will happen if there is copper in the water. Otherwise will not turn hair green
Very informative...I recently installed a salt chlorinator and today was told by rep at Pinch a Penny (after testing water at store) to add liquid chlorine to my pool water. I was under the impression that adding addl liquid chlorine is not required for my type of system since it creates a cleaner chlorine. Your thoughts please...live in So Florida area
+Will Rod You don't need liquid chlorine with the salt system running. It produces the purest form already - funny ;).
+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 not true, you still want to shock your pool, depending on the use, regularly. Liquid chlorine is what I use in my two salt water pool. You can run your system on boost during heavy use but it will still pull out the chlorine and that's when I shock it after a weekend of heavy use
Mine is being filled right now will we have to what for chlorine or can we swim in it
If the salt system is on it should generate enough chlorine in 6 t o 8 hours. Just test the water to see if there is chlorine production.
So which is best?
I prefer salt.
What state are you based in? Thanks for all the helpful videos!
I am based in Southern California just 30 miles east of Downtown LA.
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No kidding? That's where I describe my location! I live in La Verne. I am pretty new to cleaning pools, and your videos are really helpful. It would be so great to meet up sometime for lunch or something, and be able to talk in person.
Spencer Feger Small World. I probably live less than 5 minutes from you then. Why don't you send me your contact info and business info on my website: www.swimmingpoollearning.com/
And we will talk further.
5 years later, spencer. You rich from pool cleaning now?
@@neoanderson367 Why do you feel the need to attack someone who wants to work in pool service?
You should just mind your own damn business.
hey David, I just ran into a problem today at a pool. they have a salt system. aquapure. last week the salt level was at 2150 ppm. I added one 40 lb. pound of salt. well today the chlorine was at zero and the homeowner said his controllers were reading 25,500 ppm. the service light was on so I Cleaned the cell. after I put it all back together it started doing the same thing. not sure how to fix this problem. any ideas?
+medina239ify Needs to be at 3100 ppm to work properly. I assume the homeowner meant 2500 ppm? Do you have a salt level pocket tester?
+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 it actually is at 25,500 . that's what it's displaying. obviously it's not correct. I don't think one bag of salt will increase it that much. I use the aquacheck salt test strips.
I’ve heard many people say salt water pools will save you a bunch of money. You claim that salt does not save money in yearly maintenance.
Yes. The system itself cost $1000 plus install and the cell will last 4-5 years costing another $500-$700. So not counting 10-12 bags salt that puts you right around $1,500. So in 5 years are you going to spend $1,500 on chlorine? Unlikely. Plus add in the extra muriatic acid now to keep the rising pH in check...
Quick question boss I'm about to make the switch from chlorine to salt system which one do you suggest Pentair IntelliChlor IC40 Salt System or Hayward Aqua Rite Salt Generator & 40,000 Gal Cell thank you waiting for your reply I live in Canada Montreal brand new inground pool fuzion pool made from resin panels filled with concrete
Thank you looking forward to hear your reply to pulled the trigger buddy...love your video btw.
I prefer the Pentair system as it is more reliable in the long run. The only real drawback is that the replacement cell is more expensive than the Hayward because all of the electronics are built into the cell. But from my experience you will like the Pentair system better. 👍
Thanks for the great feedback! 👍
I spend $50 a year on liquid chlorine, no other chemicals. If you learn how much and when to add liquid chlorine for your size pool, you will need nothing else. WAY CHEAPER and easier to run a pool on liquid chlorine. Salt water pools are CRAP and everyone in the industry knows it, salt systems are just way more profitable for them now and in the future as salt cells and other components need replacement. PH also runs through the roof with a salt system always making you add more chemicals to lower it. Your heater, valves,pumps and other components also wouldn't last as long. Salt systems are the SCAM of the pool industry. Softer on your skin????? ....... only if you over load your pool with chlorine. A SALT WATER POOL IS A CHLORINE POOL!!! Pool owners need to spend some time LEARNING about this stuff, otherwise they will be taken to cleaners, now and in the future.
@@storypunman i wouldn't want to get in your pool if you are not keeping your ALK, pH and CYA balanced.. just adding chlorine isn't good enough if you don't keep your balancers adjusted.
I have a problem with the term "salt water pool". It's obviously a fresh water pool that just gets it's chlorine from the salt dissolved in the fresh water. Nobody would want a pool filled with actual ocean salt water...that burns your eyes when swimming under water etc.
I know, right? We are stuck with it though. 😜
nice
Do you have info on natural swimming pool?
No, haven't serviced one yet.
@@SPL ty for getting back to me
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looking back on this video from 9 years ago, who would have figured that 50 pounds of tri-chlor tablets would be $250 in 2023?
So crazy. I suppose a Myth is now a Truth. 😂
you didn't address the Backwashed water... the damage it can do to plants/soil over time...maybe more so than chlorine, as there is chlorine in drinking water
You can move the backwash hose anywhere you want it, or don't want it. You may need a longer hose to do that.
salt water pools are costly at start up. it is true you have to replace the cell every couple of years, they can be pricy, but look at how much you spend per year on chemicals such as chlorine and algeacides. Those alone can run a couple hundred dollars a season. in my opinion salt is the only way to sanitize your swimming pool.
I agree.
But doesn't it produce a chlorine gas that can be harmful?
I’m buying a house in Tucson, Az with a salt system for the pool and attached spa. I was told the salt system doesn’t work after the water drops below 60 degrees and chlorine should then be used. Of course not using the pool but we will use the spa as it’s on a separate heater. Is it true the salt doesn’t work below 60 degrees?
Yes, they stop producing in cold water. Not a big issue as the chlorine holds really well in cold water so you won't be adding much all Winter.
How do I get your book?
I have 2 versions. An eBook and a Print Version: www.swimmingpoollearning.com/swimming-pool-care-ebook
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The salt water deos ruin my garden?
It shouldn't have any effect.
Can fish live in it
Sure. Except for the chlorine part... 🙄
How often do you need to Shock a salt pool and what do you use?
+Mark Ross Rarely. If it does zero out from maybe heavy use or a dirty salt cell then I would use only liquid chlorine. But you shouldn't need to do it much at all.
Man, these people have MONEY dont they?! I'll admit I'm jealous lol
A salt pool IS a chlorine pool.
Hello, I am buying an inflatable pool for the summer, it's one of those that's less than $100, above ground. I want to keep it as simple and as inexpensive as possible. I would like to keep the family healthy, no bacteria but it's very windy where we live in the desert. Can I add salt to the pool to keep it clean or should I add bleach? Don't intend to buy a pool system since we will only be using it until about Labor Day or so. Thank you!
Just use regular bleach. Very easy and cheap. Use this site so that you are not over doing it on the amount of bleach. Just enter the number of gallons approx. - hope that helps! www.poolcalculator.com/
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how to clean my green salt pool thank you
Just follow my green pool clean up video but only use liquid chlorine.
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People need to understand that they do not have "Salt Pools" or even "Salt Water Pools". They have POOLS! Pools with chlorine generators on them. Chlorine generators need lots of salt dumped into them to make CHLORINE!
It is a pool...not chlorine, not salt. You must have a sanitizer...chlorine!
Do you use a salt system in your own pool?
Yes. For the last 15 years. No real issues.
@@SPLDo you recommend one over the other based off your experience. Im going to get one but can’t decide which brand is best. My pool is 20,000 gallons
Sorry, how to do it?
Salt or chlorine , makes no difference but chlorine is slightly more expensive but doesn't kill your equipment, evaporates. 40 year a pool, sick and tired off it, 😭😭😭😭still run it on chlorine tablets.
Remember you have to empty the pool so now and then! Where are you dumping that Salt!!
For the past 3 months my salt levels drop but never lower then 2600 when I try to rise the levels to at least 3000 the levels never reach that # and I add 2 bags at least every 2-3 weeks. I'm not a pool expert but I'm starting to believe my salt cell isn't working. I've tried taking it to Leslie pool so they can test it out but they never are "set up" for it ! I need help someone please ! Thank you
I would stop adding salt. The level is probably getting very high, unless your pool has a leak, that is.