Black Bunker BM8 Folding Magic
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I am the other guy in that photo. I had a great time and Andy was an absolute gentleman. And I have nothing but good things to say about vector air and all of the staff.
Thanks Andy.
Thank you for your comment, I must admit I remember our time together chatting and thoroughly enjoyed it. hopefully you’re not too upset with me using the photo and hopefully we will see you again. stay safe and thank you. Andy
@AAROnair not at all. I think I posted it on an agt vixen forum on Facebook. I really appreciate the time you took with my sons and I. I'm always happy to give positive feedback when it's due. Even though the vector guys were mega busy they took the time with me and I ended up buying a .22 vixen short, scope, extra mags, uragan shroud, bipod and loads of other bits from vector. There were plenty of other great retailers there but you guys stood out with your kind and friendly approach. And the after sales service was fantastic. Don't think I'll shop anywhere else. Your videos reignited my passion for shooting so I can't thank you enough.
Kind regards, Stephen.
you can only use 15 joules airguns free in the UK??
@@Ezekiel90316
Mr Bagshaw, you do not have to agree with another person, but you do have to be civil. It is as simple as that.
you always get that one particular individual, that think themselves better than another and who find pleasure in bringing other people down to cover up their own shortcomings, in his case a lack of manners
Thanks Andy for showing this. It’s a Fun item for sure, but I just don’t see why a folding gun in a triangle is desirable. Not a lot of money though. Each to their own
I'm not attracted to American-style prepping, but I can see two big advantages to this straight away:
1. My English cottage has plenty of floor space, but almost nowhere on the walls to fit a traditional gun cabinet aesthetically. This rifle would fit into a large key or medicine cabinet, or a fitted cabinet under the sloping ceilings of my upstairs rooms.
2. It'll fit in a backpack too, which is great, because my shooting ground has to be accessed through a very public area.
I'd be tempted to fit a red dot or even prism sight.
An obvious improvement would be building Crosman's MAG-fire system or similar into a future design... to reduce the faff of fumbling with pellets.
Very interesting review. Thank you.
google under bed gun rack/storage ) and think john wick thoughts
yes i could see it being a good backpack rifle for if youre going to be camping/hunting in the UK. for transportations sake or even just having it as an emergency type thing. but with our laws on carrying air weapons, having something "just in case" like that would probably not be seen as enough of a good reason to carry one.
i think it would be better in other countries where youre allowed to carry them more freely
I saw this on American YT channel recently with high power one. Very nice looking gun.
Andy always comes with very nice and informative reviews and in my opinion he is one of the nicest guys to hear.
Now Andy has commented on someone which is very unusual for him but I don’t know what is the matter. Surely some one may have very high self opinion.
For me Andy is the best and always gives very balanced and fair reviews which under any circumstances should not offend any body.
Great content and presentations as always, the polite put down at the end made me chuckle. thanks to all at AAR.
Hi Andy, (you probably won't have time to read this) I discovered your show during lockdown when I purchased my first (rubbish cheap springer) and wanted to know more. I've always found the show accessible and was able to pick up the basics the further I went along. I've found there are primarily really good people in the sport especially at my club who are always happy to give advice which is what you're doing. There are the few snobs that feel they're the knowledge of all things and try to belittle and bully people more so online. Not realising or caring of course that the sport REALLY needs good accessibility and exposure to get young people involved and keep it going for all of us. The club's won't be there without new members and the guns won't be there without the sales. Don't know what the guys problem is but you'll always find a few dull tools at the bottom of the box 😊
well said ? i found this out trying to join a club myself .... Clubs are hard to join ... i have a 30 range made at home .... that will do me lol
Agree with you. I’m mostly a home shooter. I make CZcams videos. Nothing if AARs calibre however so many know it alls. What happened to being allowed to enjoy it and learn as you go? Just so you know there is a few of us who are nice! Cheers!
@@simonnoble7589 The guy at the end of the phone at my local club basically told me I wouldn't be accepted by other members as they only shoot top end stuff but recommended another club further away. I joined the other club that day based on the reception I got and over the course of a couple of years I've come to find pretty much 99% of them are really welcoming, friendly and helpful - even the higher end shooters have given me advice and always happy to show some kit or as I've found on many occasions let me have a quick go. It seems people just get online to annoy others. I might not agree with some of what Andy says but I'm still appreciative and grateful he's putting out content in a way everyone can get to grips with it. We don't all have a degree in ballistic coefficients, there's other places to go for the ducks bum fountain of knowledge. I'd genuinely say that watching these videos encouraged me to go further into a sport I really enjoy. So thanks Andy if you ever get around to reading this though if you had that much time I'd be surprised 😃
Well said Sir 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
Precisely my observation too.
One specific member whom I got into a bit of an exchange with, was fortunate enough to have accumulated a very nice collection of very high end airguns.
But every time a beginner would ask what airgun to start with that wouldn't break the bank, this twat would recommend Theobans or similar brands saying everything else was rubbish and then would proceed to show photos of his collection to win looks of admiration and awe.
He wasn't helping the newcomers in any shape other than getting off on the idea of making people think they can't get into the sport unless they spend a couple of Gs.
I suspected he was compensating for certain "shortcomings" in other areas but hey, I will live quite happy not knowing the definitive answer to that. 😂
'The Day Of The Jackel' is one of my favorite movies and I could easily put in a list of
the top 100 movies of all time and I highly recommend it. I believe a relative of
Edward Fox was in a series that aired on PBS here in America called 'Lewis'.
THANKS as always Andy 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
Morning Andy, love the review. Not something I'd necessarily buy but as always love the content and the review. What a very reasonable and intelligent way to deal with a troll , you are a true gentleman.
A very interesting concept, Andy. Innovative 👍
Excellent Review Cheers Andy I have been looking for something like this since Edward Fox was Around!
That's the only folding rifle I've seen that's bigger when folded than when it's unfolded!
One is black and tan and the other is tan and black. Are you sure you didn't just get the centre boxes accidently swapped?
Well well indeed!! I love it, nothing serious, does the job it's intended for, and it really takes you back to just blasting tin cans away endlessly in ya garden for hours on end. Yes I love it.
Very good review sir Thank you.
Great review, I have been looking at those, they certainly are different 👍
Also I love your reviews. The awareness you bring is enlightening. Your reviews have me making purchases of brands like Diana & Artemis that would have overlooked on the American market. Thanks for your hard work
Hi Andy,
Thank you for another great review. I met you for the second time at this years Shooting Show. It was great to speak to you when it was eventually my turn! I'm grateful for all the reviews you do and the energy you and Mrs AAR put in to what you do.
I could sense at the Shooting Show that there was an atmosphere and unrest where, by people were annoyed because they thought nothing new or different was there. There seemed to be a lot of limited edition stuff. Nothing new, though, with a hefty price tag.
Since watching your review and listening to your opinion, my opinion changed on this air rifle from first seeing it.
Personally, I like traditional air rifles, Walnut stock, and not keen on the tactical look. However, I think this is a great design and would appeal to someone who didn't want an obvious looking gun under his arm. Most of us put our air rifles in our cars. What if we had to use the bus, or train or walk through a busy precinct? I think it would appeal to someone who needed to do pest control and not, with great respect, a big interest in air rifles, and not their hobby.
At forty metres and being a spring air rifle, I thought the accuracy/grouping was fantastic, especially as it was your first time shooting it. After watching your review, I think it's great, with a price which is non arguable. I don't think there's an argument to be had here. This is not the run of the mill. It's new with a lot of thought gone into it. Thank you.
I saw this rifle awhile ago and was just waiting for one of your reviews as I know it is trustworthy and honest yet again another great video with brilliant information . Thanks
Morning all! Lovely weather for some shooting today. Enjoy!
Great video Andy, you mentioned this one when we were chatting at the shooting show so it's good to see see it! For the record I really enjoyed meeting you, we were talking about your archery video among others. Looking forward to the next cowboy one (no spoilers)!
Also known as Bell End Bagshaw
Another bucket list item!!!
Wouldn’t mind one at all. Performs reasonably well and could be even more accurate with different sights. Nice introduction to something different.
I saw one of these come in my local store when I was in. Very interesting I’d like to give it a try I think
That's one slick looking gun, nice grouping as well! 👍
Thanks for another great review Andy, happy Friday to you and all the viewers and everyone have a great weekend!
Raining (again!) here in NS, blah.... 🤪
Pete 🇨🇦
Great video. Thanks. So refreshing to watch your stuff where I can’t see any influence from sponsors in your reviews.
Off to order one today be handy as farm pest basher. Also sure im read some were it comes with a optional baynet Great video keep it up all at at aar also the most polite response to a unnecessarily needed comment
Thanks for the review Andy, as result I visited the Vector shop yesterday and purchased a .177 in black. First time at the premises and had a really great experience.
I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of quality metal and the finish on this and the polymer pieces. Once assembled it's so sturdy if you handed it to someone they'd have no clue it's foldable.
I appreciate some of the suspicion about Chinese made products is entirely valid but this rifle has far exceeded my expectations regarding fit and finish.
Your disclaimer at the start of the vid was correct, I've now decided I also 'need' the . 22 in tan :) so stock levels permitting I'll be back at the shop next month.
Kind regards and thanks again for the time and effort you put into these reviews.
I have the tan version in .22 cal as well. I have done several videos on this air rifle shooting it un scoped and it is very accurate out to 30yrds.
the one things that has happened since I have had it and been shooting it for a few months now is that the rear site has started to drift after about 12 to 14 shots.
Not sure how to fix the issue due to the design of the rear site. But I will be putting a scope on it soon and make a video shooting it scoped as well. glad to see you demo these as well,
Cheers from the U.S.A.
Looks great!
Good morning, I must say it's a long time since I have seen such an interesting Rifle, I like it, I like it a lot, a great review👍
Gary Bagshaws got mention That's probably a win in his eyes
Yes, HE got the attention he craves, but for all the wrong reasons.
Good Morning from Dublin.
A bit overcast, but I'll be over in Glasgow this weekend...so, the Dublin weather is not a problem.
A 'transformer' rifle. Interesting.
Good morning , from Yorkshire England ..... Sounds great . have a great holiday
@@simonnoble7589 will do. a 40 year school reunion (of sorts)
@@TheRealKaner dont forget to tune in next fridsy from Malta ? cheers
@@simonnoble7589 haha. I'll be in the Med at the end of May...at least the ship will have internet.
I appreciate the somewhat clever ingenuity, and I think the concept of "play as if your a USA tacticool prepper" is cute. It would be fun to own as a youngster or teen. 11+ Ft pounds and fairly accurate too.
But an even more practical, robust, cheaper and simple survival air rifle is certainly a good idea. Think along the lines of the Chiappa little badger .22LR.
And why not have more budget field/farm use break barrels and C02's/PCP's with wire and synthetic folding, swinging, telescopic stocks?. Something a farm hand can carry on his quad without much worry about damage or much space needed.
Ofcourse legal overall length, folded and unfolded, considerations would have to be factored in to allow for the full 12ft pound limit in either configuration.
Its always nice to see new innovations, especially in the budget sector. Theres alot of guns that are very similar in every way, so the market needs a shake up with new ideas.
well said
Andy love the concept of the rifle, and yes the day of the jackal is a great film based on truth i believe
Thanks for sharing keep up the good work cheers 👍
Nice review! First time viewer. Great ethics! Thanks.
I have to be honest i've heard you described using much harsher terms, such as on tuesday but then so was i, but i'd laugh it off and pity the jealous fool(s).....keep up the good work...we still love you! :)
Great fun!
Very interesting gun, I also like companies that think out of the box. My HW100 BPK is so short with the silencer removed it fits in my sports rucksack.
Had mine for about 6 weeks , nice to handel and very capable , think the company is part ot Tippmann
Fantastic review and a awesome different Air Rifle, you could put it in a carrier bag 😊
PSA: Three quid for a tin of spam at our local highstreet. Bacon Grill can often be picked up for half the price and is top nosh on toast with a tin of chopped tomatoes and a dairy lee slice.
I like the 22 rimfire survival backpack rifle. (Little badger)
That's a lovely idea and an interesting gun!! I am more than a little interested in spending a few pounds ;) Thanks Andy
Such amazing innovation …….. what will the big boys do to keep up with such cleverness. Fantastic
I got mine yesterday, I was surprised as to how heavy it is.
In re Gary Bagshaw:
Wise men below decks in the Royal Navy traditionally observed to any man who was too opinionated...
"Many a man's jaw has been broken by his lip".
A wise man would take note.
The only thing that's get broken below deck in the navy is ass.
@@Jayt750 You must be talking aboutbtge ruzzian navy. They're forming up on the sea-bed already in pteparation for the review of the Black Sea Fleet.
Great review nice to see what technology can bring to the table .this one sure is different and no doubt will improve with time .great gun by the way cheers swino Grimsby
Hi Andy, it looks a lot better with a scope on it now someone just needs to make a 3D cover that protects the scope and blends in when folded.
An AGT VIXEN style magazine holder might look quite cool on that 🤷🏽♂️
Love it 👍
I remember the film and Bruce Willis also did a version of it as well
Watched this twice, listening to you Andy. I think you have become a CZcams product persuader.
Saw that gun a while back on another channel. Interesting idea but if I wanted a "prepper" sub-12 airgun I'd get a synthetic stock HW97 and live with the weight and length.
Well I would rather shake your hand Sir than that of Mr. Bagshaw. Keep up the good work.
Another cracking review Andy! How about the BSA Scorpion TS, I've had mine nearly a year and is serving me really well on the bench.
I like it. I like it alot
Great boy toy, really cool, not sure I really need one though, I've got quite a few impulse buys that are still sat in the box. Lol
Hi Andy ,I always enjoy your reviews, Your enthusiasm and love for everything airgun related is always portrayed .Having had the pleasure of meeting you in person at the BSS in 2023 Mr Bagshaw quite frankly has the ability to talk through his ar*e .
Wow, I like that.👍
Hi Andy, thank you so much for another great review. You are a nice bloke and much appreciated by the people in the airgun community. As for you know who, he's just a school bully that has never grown up. He probably still has stabilisers on his bike 😅 Ignore the haters, Andy, they are not worth your time.
Nice! Would have been perfect if they'd have thought to include a bespoke carry case for it.
Nice.
That looks very funky. What is it with something that folds, snaps together, love it. Like cp2 converts from pistol to carbine. Very cool
I WANT ONE!!! 👍👍
I bought one in tan very soon after a quiet word with Andy at the NEC Gun Show. Budget price but not budget quality or plastic. In all, it makes you smile. It's fun but not going to help you survive WW3! For a trekker, it may be too heavy to carry for an occasional pot shot. There is even an optional bayonet, which is going to get the boys in blue worried. I think it probably makes more sense in countries without power limitations.
Would of liked to have seen the the .177 grouping
Cool concept, for sure. I wonder how this works with UK laws regarding needing sleeves for your plinker when youre out and about. Otherwise and again, nice idea.
I hope you used a watermelon to zero it in! 😂
As far as trolls like Mr Bagshaw go - well, every village has to have one doesn't it.
Hi Andy, Many thanks for your awesome video reviews. Because of this review I have just placed an order from Vector Air 😁. Will I need to clean out the barrel before I fire this please? And would I get good FPS ft/lbs with 14.66g h&n pellets?
Also is the thread male 1/2" 20 UNF as I'm having a moderator made for it. Thanks
*Woah! Look kids, a gimmick!*
Good review Andy.
Not sure what I enjoyed more the review of the gun (about to Google where I can get one from) or the rubuke of Mr Bradshaw 😂
Who is Mr Bradshaw? Comment deleted or a regular? Not seen any reviews for a while and looking for something different, well the prices are certainly different...
What happened to the AA400 for £400, anything decent seems be more than I paid for my car. :)
Well im a bit annoyed i missed Gerry Grimshaws comments they certainly raised the hackles of a few , it seems Mr Rickshaw you have quite the talent !
Unusual item well reviewed , whatever Mr Foreshaws views and comments were ., im fairly certain he'll soon be forgotten . Offshore , was that his name ?
Dave
Well you sure showed Gary who's boss with your wordsmithery!
@@Jayt750 thank you
Don't worry about the cabbage Andy,brilliant videos covering a wide range.
Don't mind me asking would this gun be illegal, if you can fold the stock , it's like a long barreled pistol shooting over the limit ?
Top man with a heart, maybe like a cabbage, lol.
Ah Friday. It's Andy so it must be the weekend 😁. Thanks for the review. The BM8 is a bit gimmicky but at that price worth a punt. Ideal back-up you can tuck away but be ready to deploy in seconds when your bottle's out of air !
ps Still waiting for that Reximex Lyra review. I need the AAR stamp of approval before ordering one 😉
could be next week hopefully. Andy
Pity someone else didn't sell their kids.
Great review and a really interesting development. Looks fun and could cut down on storage space 🤔
Trust me to wonder why the tan box doesnt come with the tan gun and vice versa.
Shops should get enough customers asking the same and willing to swap them over unless they made that impossible which would be a mistake I think.
Hi Andy, great video as always. Any chance you could add the chronograph readings for the 22 in the comments for comparison with the 177? Many thanks
Definitely an interesting concept. I don't think I need a folding rifle, but when did that ever stop us :-)
Hey, great review thanks. Can you tell me exactly which Veyron scope you were using?
I think they have limited themselves a bit. If they offered the box in black, tan or olive green and you could choose for yourselves which one, it would be better.
Also, I think marketing a black & tan air rifle could be problematic in some parts of the country.
It's pretty cool...what's the fps for the break barrel rifle..and how much is it..
Edward fox with the pumpkin
so many breaking point... i keep my webly(made by hatsan) vmx dr
Hello my British airgun friend.
""Day of the Jackle"" lol good movie. Also from the 70's Brass Target. spoiler A airgun is the weapon of choice.😂
You really are quite enthusiastic about this one…lol I think a 30 cal version would be nice
I do like this rifle I will probably pick up a black one, I would like know how well it will keep zero as it appears the rail is attached to the frame and not the barrel and from taking the scope off I wouldn't want to break it down and stick it in my bag with a scope on.
Quite cool of a gimmick imo. At least you do not absolutely *need* to remove any added sights off of it - even though I think it might be preferrable, if you care about your added optic sight. Will be interesting to hear of how the hinges last over time in use. The box seems okay. Would most probably just put the pellets (and the optic, if using one) in the case..
Dunno if it is just me.. or does this one seem as an old thing to someone else too? Seen this one in american videos a while back also - and already then it seemed old. This rifle been showed off in some american Shot Show already a couple of years back or something? This Black Bunker rifle surely did not seem as a new thing to me anymore... Just been finding it odd and pondering about it..
Surely a cool looking rifle in my eyes, though probably not getting on my wants list..
Maybe it wasn't available for export to the UK until now. I was looking at another gun - recently reviewed - and there was only a single one for sale in the UK.
I think a shrouded barrel would be a really nice upgrade to the next gen
The box is for a bayonette, that's how it's sold in the US.
TAKE MY MONEY!!!!! SOLD
Would you like a rubber duck or a bag of 'magic beans'? :) I think they will sell well even for the novelty factory alone, expect shortages at first.
Probably need to slide your rear sight over a bit. Nice rifle.
well said andy👏👏, call out the trolls- name + (shame (if possible) , i'm sure its water off a ducks back by now,,,,,, but hey they'll always be there somewhere,
great job as always - look forward to yours every friday 👍🙏, up gary "ballbag4shaw" what a richard !!
Morning all
good morning , how are you this wk ?
@@simonnoble7589 fine thanks, getting ready for a week in Malta from next Wed. How are you?
@@sergentcolon1 Wow , yes a great place to vist , not been myself . Lots of History from 2nd world war ... iam not bad , today . might gets some shooting done today ? after the big winds etc . I have MS 3 so iam disabled shooter now . Thats why iam not at work .... Have a great holiday 😃
Kind of looks like a nail gun - like it.
I thought the same, stick some DeWalt/Milwaukee stickers on it and a chart with nail sizes and you could probably walk into a police station or bank without a 2nd glance.
Have you fitted this into a bag? Just wondering what sort of size rucksack would be needed?
Good morning everybody , have a great weekend
morning Simon!
@@fliesarenegade hello, how are you ? Overcast ☁️ here . We’ve had a lot of rain ☔️ take care of
Re Edward Fox reference must be the poshest assassin ever