Tasting the Prok, Rosseyanka & Miss Kim Persimmons
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- čas přidán 1. 12. 2021
- Zone 7A - Greater Philadelphia
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Been a long time, dude. Persimmon comparison videos are few and far between. Thanks for doing this.
We have many people on fruit growing forums that have been growing persimmons for a long time, and still can't put together a video doing comparisons. Or give their thoughts about what they like and why. I like what you're doing, Ross.
Thanks man.
Thanks. Nice video. As you mentioned persimmons are very well adapted to the east coast USA. I have grown various Asian persimmons for years here in central Virginia (7a) and they are truly delicious. Despite their comparatively small size, however, from a flavor and vigor standpoint, nothing compares to a good seedling grown American persimmon. I have two wild American trees on my field edge that are about 30 ft tall. The fruits are good size and incredibly tasty. They hang on the trees and dont drop, and as they dry in December that special flavor is intense. Lots of fun growing.
Zone 8a. After watching this I'm going to graft some American cultivars as well. That prok tree behind you is growing like a weed. Amazing especially under that big oak tree.
Rosseyanka means a Girl from Russia and it pronounces exactly like Ross's name at the beginning - Ross-se-yan-ka.
I live in CA and while figs are delicious, if you want to get a good mature fruit yeild i would go with persimmons. Mature fig trees will maybe produce a few pounds, some persimmon trees will produce hundreds of pounds
Persimmons were the reason I found your channel and love all the info
I have seedlings for Rojo Brilliante, and I just bought an American and a Chocolate.
I love hachiya persimmons usually get them of peoples at home trees locally, but ive only had like 4 types of persimmons and they were all asian and hachiya is the only non astringent persimmon ive had, i like non astringent persimmons too but there more like apples
Ross I’m also a huge fig fan but your right! It’s sooo darn close to choose “if you had to only eat one”. I would have to lean towards the persimmon also. Another sleeper is a great mango.
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Thank you for this awesome video.
Video starts at 6:05
Ross great video. Do you think they would do good in pots? Thanks
Does Prok have bigger leaves than other American persimmons?
I’ve only eaten fuyu from the grocery store and thought they were just ok. Kinda taste like cantaloupe. I guess I just have to grow my own persimmion to experience what you’re talking about. I’m debating getting a nikitas gift or an American variety. Might have to get both!
I think it's worthwhile to grow a few different types.
Completely agree with your assessment of the fuyu. Like you, I am not a fan. American persimmon are a whole other universe though. A well ripened "yates" persimmon is probably the most delicious fruit I have ever tasted. The flavor is very intense. They are quite soft though (if you are a person that has issues with that texture)
How can there be trees with persimmons into march, if you need them to ripen before frost. Id love some later persimmons into the winter but which varieties would actually taste good late?
Ross Radi The Persimmon Boss just don’t hit the same tho
How much sun does your Rossenyanka get ?
Where do you find these varieties? I would love to plant it
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@@RossRaddi thank you😘
I have a couple trees to pull out... but, I was noticing that those specific locations are in a slightly sheltered spot and persimmons might do decently here. I'm in 6b so, cold hardiness would be questionable for non-astringent persimmons... but I think the harder issue are with desiccation in the winter. Given that these spots are slightly out of the winter / spring winds, I think I'm going to seriously look at two astringent persimmons. Any ideas if 8-10' of width would be adequate for something like a nikita's gift or one of the hardier asian persimmons (great wall, miss kim?). I don't think I'd have space for a more vigorous rosseyanka or a saijo (as I think those are kinda big from what I've read).
Nikitas Gift 100%. It's a smaller tree. Most others I can think of are much larger trees.
Surprised you havent started growing a Nakita's Gift Persimmon yet.
I just grafted one this spring. Might be awhile though before I get to taste it.
@@RossRaddi I had Nakita's gift ripen this year. The taste is similar to Prok. A nice bonus is NG is a larger fruit than Prok and makes a really nice Hoshigaki. I am hoping to find even better hybrid persimmons with the american persimmon flavor notes.
@@agrexias Oh really? Same dried fruit rum raisin flavor?
@@RossRaddi This is, also, the first year that Prok has produced fruit. Doing a side by side taste test of NG and Prok they both have a similar taste profile. Rum raisin is a good description of how both fruit taste. I would rate NG superior only due to its increased size and production. The NG tree had around 125 fruit and that is with two thirds of the fruit being thinned. Prok had only a handful of fruit to try this year. NG has convinced me to invest my efforts in grafting and planting hybrid persimmons. NG is just that good. The depth of flavor from an American persimmon is levels above the Asian persimmons I've tried. With that said, my wife prefers Saijo over NG and Prok. One of us is weird though. I think it is her :)
looks like summer
It was the end of October I think.
when did you pick these ross? im pretty sure this video was shot a few weeks ago. still working on the form of my tree.
Hi Ross. I am wondering if you recommend any good American persimmon variety that does well on it’s own rootstock?
Couldn't comment on that.
On their own roots would imply you could do cuttings on persimmon trees which as far as I have seen is impossible. They have to be grafted to be a named cultivar
I've tried persimmon but I found it kinda average, kind of like a mix between an apple and a peach, maybe it's under ripe from the shops, or maybe they're better home grown and fresh off a tree