1970, CHRISTIANS AT WAR, BELFAST, NORTHERN IRELAND
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- čas přidán 11. 03. 2020
- In 1970 reporter Jim Douglas Henry and a film crew lived for ten days with the Catholic husband and wife and their six children and reporter Harold Williamson and another crew lived, across the barbed wire barricade with a Protestant husband and wife and their two daughters in an effort to better understand the war like and despair filled environment they live in. This film depicts a time of horror for both factions that is still a depressing part of life in Belfast even today.
The war here had nothing to do with Christianity it was political. British v Irish but it was used as a religious divide.
How can you say that they won’t even inter marry.
As in every war it was about resources, jobs and housing were allocated by whatever flavour of Christianity you are meant to follow Christ by. It suited the powers to have the state oppress the one third minority.
The divide between nationalists and unionists in Northern Ireland is overwhelmingly drawn along culturally religious lines. This is due to the roots of the conflict going back centuries to a time when kings and ruling elites justified their rule based on religion, whereas since the 20th century ruling elites justify their rule on secular ideology, like democracy, liberalism, socialism, fascism, communism. If you didn't share the religion of your king or ruler in the 17th century, this was a problem, and the British monarchy justified their rule through Anglicanism and Protestantism. Your religion was your identity, your politics, your central world view, your ideology. In the 17th century, being Protestant, and specifically Church of Ireland, meant you had a religious allegiance to the British Crown through your belief, and were therefore loyalist. This meant your attachment to British identity was enforced by obtaining privilege and wealth, whereas being Catholic in Ireland more often than not meant discrimination, confiscation of property, land and wealth. Go forward a few centuries and the two communities have had their British unionist and Irish nationalist identities enforced many times over within their respective communities in Northern Ireland
My knowledge and understanding of this history is very limited. I grew up in the 70s and watched in the news some of the bombings and shootings at the time in Ireland. I never fully understood why there was so much so hatred and mistrust until seeing this film but your excellent explanation really puts it together fo me. Thank you and thank you for watching.
@Republic Media (RM) the United Irishmen were formed by ulster Presbyterians. Like William Orr. Henry joy McCracken. Ect ect ect.. as the song goes. Hears to those brave Protestant men who gave their lives to free our land. 1798 rebellion
1970, the year i was born, things went from bad to worse, a lot worse before life began to return to relative normality.
Its strange hearing a loyalist try sing a Rebble ballet, it just doesn't sound right. I'm on the Rep Rebel side but I still love our loyalist brother, we've all moved on I hope, let's sing together. We in the south really hadn't a clue about the nuts and bolt's of the reality of Ulster, ✌️🖖🤝🤗💞.
Ulster Protestants have destroyed Ulster with thier bigotry and paranoia about Irish Roman Catholics they damaged Ulster more then Sinn Féin IRA
Very good upload
Pride comes before the fall.
But sometimes your pride is all you have left.
Jesus was weeping when He saw this. None of this was done in His name.
I feel sorry for the young man almost blinded when ge went to confront a boy with a petrol bomb. It is bad enough to lose your sight at any age, but when you are young, it is dark worse because your whole life is in front of you.
@@daisychain3007 He was himself firing a shotgun and had seriously wounded an number of Ardoyne residents.
"You must love your neighbour as yourself." Matthew 22:39
"Return evil for evil to no one.
Take into consideration what is fine from the viewpoint of all men. If possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men." Romans 12:17,18
God has high standards of behaviour for those who love him, and he never asks us to do anything that is impossible. Peace, neutrality, and impartiality are all absolutely possible. It's all a choice.
All of it was.
Very good documentary, gives you an insight to what people thought then.
Absolutely incredible documentary thank you for uploading it.
Your welcome, thank you for watching.
@@OfficeofImageArchaeology Can I get a copy of the film on a vhs tape or DVD?
@@Thetrueking-gr2ss I have sold entire digital copies of a few of my films before but generally people find it too expensive. Stock footage is sold at $38 per second. I have a $300 minimum. I’m sure this is not what you wanted to hear but this is most likely one of very few copies of this film to exist. I haven’t seen another copy any place else. If I were to sell the entire film, it could be posted someplace else and that would dilute the value on my end. I post them to CZcams for people to see for free because I do want to share it but these films cost me a lot of money over the years and the effort to digitize them, edit them and post them I couldn’t even measure. Selling stock footage is the only way I can possibly make money doing this. My CZcams revenue average is just under $200 per month. That doesn’t even pay for my software. Anyway to make a long story short I apologize because I know this is not what you wanted to hear. Thank you for watching.
Poor Irish people living in their occupied country ! So sad ! I hope their day will come ! I'm a Frenchman and I love that Island very much ; when I watch that video, and others, I can't blame the IRA....
A lot of irish fought in ww2. They fought for their country whether that be south or the north.
The french when overwhelmed by nazi germany then sided with the germans and then also willingly collaberated against the allies,lest for pockets of french resistance fighters.
When the allies defeated germany and their collaberators france then made acquaintance once more with britain and forgot tried to forget about their disgusting betrayal in ww2.
What im trying to say is as a frenchman your view of the conflict in northern ireland/ireland is skewed and you know very little.
My other point being is that the french are smelly cheese eating obnoxious pretentious rude cowards and so your opinion is not really worth anything to anyone.
Point & case,even now your country is being over-run and being set fire to yet france does......nothing.
My late father was sent to Belfast in 1969. He told me that old Catholic ladies would bring tea and biscuits to his men in the very beginning. Far different than his last tour a few years later. It's all so sad. Irish people have all suffered so much
i find all this sad, my grandmother was a roman catholic, im a protestant descendant of irish roman catholics who moved from Ireland to Glasgow, Scotland then down to North East England.
I understand, God bless you thank you for watching.
Great documentary, hatred exposed
Great documentary
Leigh hill , Anne Nesbit , have you watched this , Denise in the back ground @ the 27mins mark
Was this a Man Alive programme?
It would be very interesting to know who exactly profited financially from the troubles.
Young Gerald McCauley just happened to be in the youth wing of the ira. Something that was omitted in the interviews.
This fact was clearly featured upon this young boys headstone in this film.
With further regard to your comment regarding the murdered boy , Gerald McAuley , I am not going to pretend that I know the details of this sad event but I happen to be aware of other instances in which upon the death of members of the nationalist community the republicans claimed ownership of their , martyrdom.
I can only guess as to their thinking at the time because , as in the ‘ battle of St Mathew’s ‘ a local resident, guilty of nothing more than opposing loyalist hordes from invading and burning their homes was inadvertently killed by man called Dennis Donaldson , this was blamed or credited to , depending on your viewpoint , on loyalists and against the deceased mans family wishes .
, he for many years was erroneously listed as a combatant. I can only assume that there may have been ,among republicans a belief that a dead ‘ volunteer’ loaned kudos to them , and that among his friends and neighbors inspired a sense of needing to do something , for even among the staunchest of loyalists is , I believe, an acceptance of the fact that , in places such as Shortstrand , Ardoyne and Lower Falls that it was the nationalist people who were acting in self defense, for that reason also it would make interesting viewing to hear/see those in this documentary, to find out if , with age , is there an increased truthfulness, or to put it another way ,has the need to paint it ,your colour , subsided any.
A 15 year old boy ! It that really is that your contribution?
Great documentary - where did you find this??
I have over the years purchased hundreds of 16mm films. I still have about 400 that still need processing. I generally post new films every week. This particular film was found in Central California about 2 years ago. Thank you for watching and please stay healthy.
@@OfficeofImageArchaeology Thanks George, you too! This is a rare documentary, one I'm very pleased to see. If you have any more of northern Ireland thriving this period, I'd love to see them. Best wishes and best of health to you.
@@OfficeofImageArchaeology Funny how there's so many American documentaries of the Troubles that are not public knowledge. There is one which shows Martin McGuiness preparing a car bomb, that one was never published by request from the British Government.
Yeah seems like folks just want to wallow in the dirt. Actually it goes for both sides of the pond though. I’ve got one here that was produced why are British television station that looks at the folks from Appalachia in Tennessee. Both of these films are very similar in their way. But while preparing a car bomb. LOL I’ve had to edit one of my films because it showed folks how to use readily available chemicals to create a Molotov cocktail you didn’t have to light. Yeah I think it’s just better to keep that information out of eager young hands. Thanks for watching
@@OfficeofImageArchaeology I suspect the real reason the British wanted the car bomb documentary censored is because they didn't want Martin McGuinness to be exposed and caught. The documentary in particular exposes the identity of many prominent IRA men in the 1970s. McGuinness in particular has been seen near an Mi5 hideout on multiple occasions, suggesting he's been in contact with the British for a long time.
Some folks aren't happy unless they can bother and destroy their neighbors,and for what?
My family are from both sides,! I grew up as a protestant, from my Catholic gran, RIP, gran,,! But my family & my late gran would say now ,! We all want to stay in the UK, 🤝🇬🇧❤ , I was born 23rd May 1968, from northern Ireland UK, 🇬🇧🤝❤
Roman Catholics are mainly Irish Nationalists and Irish Republicans
25:30: Children learn what they live.
Secular Politics not religion
This British Colonisation destroyed Ireland most definitely.
We keep what we hold Mentality.
Sad Life back then indeed for both People's.
Would be interesting to know what happened to these people 50 years later, I suspect most have passed away.
What they left out for starters ,poor Hugh McGarry upon arrival at the hospital was found to have in his possession shotgun cartridges and instead of facing prosecution was lauded ,given a huge compensation payment and went on to try his failed snipers hand at , photography of all things ,yes there were indeed shouts from Ardoyne residents at him , no doubt from the relatives and friends he had tried to murder that August evening. Also if you listen carefully you may have noticed that when Mr Purdie is asked were the people who fled those houses intimidated,he answers a question which was not asked “ No, no one here was arrested for intimidation “ He , in that regard at least ,is telling the truth ,the British loyalist police made zero attempt to prevent British loyalist mobs chasing their catholic neighbors from their homes. Indeed from the early scenes the viewer could be forgiven for thinking that catholic homes and businesses spontaneously combusted in the “ hate of the moment “.
@@jamesoneill2933 they should do a follow up documentary, 50 years later, covering the same families.
@@thomasmichael559 I would be interested to see that too.
I'd really like to see a follow up doco, 50 years later too. I reckon it would be really interesting. That Purdie fella was also spinning a bit of bullshit, about the orange mob not helping out with getting a job, or house, or promotion I'd reckon. I'm a viewer from afar, but that's how I've understood the lodge to operate, helping loyalists over catholics.
@@warrenmilford1329 Yes indeed it would make interesting viewing, although you will appreciate as I , kick with the other foot , I’m not particularly well versed in regard to the “ society of secrets “ but this much is no secret, it is verboten to employ a catholic and never ever , over a Protestant. What may be of some interest to observers is the varying interpretation of what constitutes a Protestant. For some lodges are keen observants of the sabbath and are committed’ Christians’ many still refuse to watch , facilitate, or partake in things such as sport , swimmers , cinema and the like on Sundays.
Indeed until the mid seventies in places where they were predominant, the very council parks parks would have had the swings and roundabouts chained fast. However by way the vast majority of the ‘ Brethren’ are Protestant only in name , indeed the criteria for being a Protestant among them would seem to translate as ‘ not catholic’ equates to , Protestant.
I don’t believe I’m being overly harsh in saying that most lodges are nothing more than anti catholic drinking shebeens , the clientele of which , would most likely never have seen the interior of a place of worship unless it was to urinate in the font (or worse ) or perhaps if they’ve been stripping lead from the roof.
What this report did not say is that in 1969 the loyalists burnt the Catholic streets on the Crumlin Rd and murdered 2 men where those hecklers were.
Farringdon Gardens in Ardoyne, Belfast at 17:10 I used to think was Bombay Street but Bombay Street has no front gardens. Bombay Street the Protestants burned the Catholics out and in Farringdon Gardens the Protestants burned their own homes so the Catholics couldn't move in,although now it is a Staunchly Irish Republican area.
That is precisely what happened although to be exact , the adjacent areas on all sides of Ardoyne had been ‘cleansed’ in the previous year or more ,of Catholics by , the Mr Purdies and Mr McGarrys of these areas and many schools and Parochial halls in catholic areas were crammed full of dispossessed families, crying out to be rehoused , on the morning of August 9th 1971 when the British army arrested and interned hundreds of catholic men, protestant inhabitants felt ( correctly) that their overtly loyalist presence in Ardoyne was no longer tenable burning all they could not loot including the smattering of catholic homes which had been there. The British army sealed off the three streets to allow them free reign , whilst the mayhem ensued and faced down catholic people with fixed bayonets, we watched helplessly as the savages threw toilets , baths ,sinks etc into the gardens below , many clearly the worse for drink some armed openly with guns. Coincidentally Mr McGarry ,upon his arrival at a nearby hospital was found to have had in his pockets, shotgun cartridges, cartridges which he’d been discharging at the inhabitants of Ardoyne , so when his mummy is coaching him to recount his ,yarn, she omitted this little detail. No doubt the shotgun which he used was the one to which the ‘ lady’ refers to as her legal weapon , just one of the 120 ,000 weapons held almost exclusively by loyalist/ Protestants at that time.
@@jamesoneill2933 who writes your script mate. Fairytales.
@@shankill178 Don’t worry you’re not the intended demographic.
@@shankill178 True Protestants are secterain just as any Roman Catholic
@@shankill178 ,Which part don’t you believe?
The man said it, if the troops weren’t there, there would be a blood bath.
GO TO HELL, TRAITOR, AND TAKE THE BRITISH ARMY WITH YOU
That woman is a legend . No surrender
Would the Children of Holy Cross be allowed their parents to carry a shotgun,to protect their children?You can't have it both ways.
Excuse me, the sound is terrible
This was not all about religion, it was about two political divides also who happened to follow different christian paths - saying it was northern irish catholic v northern Irish protestant was, in my view, a scapegoat of a reason. It wasn't simply as black and white as portrayed, especially in this report.
This Colonial War in Ireland was never about Christianity, it was simply about British Colonialism .
Land Grab, etc.etc.
Military Might over Right.
The Irish People have suffered enough.
The British Powers have a lot to answer for, when they meet their maker.
You would think civilized people would put a stop to that crap but it continues even today in different parts of the world. Not as bloody or blatant as in Ireland though. The situation in Maui may be one of those.
@OfficeofImageArchaeology Things have changed drastically in the Colony now, Irish Nationalists outnumber the Unionists slightly, with a middle neutral 20%
An International Agreement that allows for the Reunification of Ireland 50%+1 is required.
There is no going back to the old day's , every Colony only has a certain shelf life as History have taught us again and again.
Russia today are trying the same Colonisation of Ukraine.
Colonialism was most certainly the Greatest Sin against God and Humanity.
Watching this the day after the queen died, and hearing them discuss the queen way back then is so surreal 😳 hard to believe she’s gone
I visited these areas a few years ago. The lower Falls seems like a thriving community compared to the Shankhill which seems to be going through a process of depopulation.
@jimmy stewart the lower falls should be a beacon of light for the loyalists and if they try really hard they could emulate the wonderful people of that area🇮🇪💚🇮🇪
Such wild irrationality should be seldom seen.
I Hand a gun pointed at me and told to leave my job i was only 17
Unbelievable documentary a kind of Ken Loach Panorama surprised this was not broadcast during the troubles.
These 2 groups would get along like they do all over the world if it weren't for the BRITISH. That is a summary of the entire conflict.
exactly
That lovely tolerant man who would disown his son if fell in love with catholic...Proud he must be... anyway he looks like Alex Hurricane Higgins before the Ale...
I was saying this in 1963... Donegal Pass Barracks,
It’s the Anglo Saxons vs the Celtics. It’s not religion, it’s about Anglo Saxon control of 6 counties, it’s Great Britain. I am loyal to the monarchy and Roman Catholic
they were not killing each other in the name of Religion.
5.56 that gezzer isnt blind.
Why should any viewer want to see a distracting digital clock?
Stock footage
True Irish men. It won't happen again that's for sure. No more British empire. 😎👍
ST Patrick was a Brit. The romans have left their religious empire there in roman Catholicism.
@@williamwallace4924 your father was a pervert Dave. Just like sir Jimmy savile Dave. 🌚
Mr H Mc Garry had been shooting with a shotgun into Ardoyne , presumably with the shotgun that his neighbor boasts of owning, just one of almost 120,000 legally held weapons in N Ireland almost all were in the hands of the unionist/ Protestant community throughout N.I.
McGarry shot and wounded a considerable number of residents from Ardoyne that fateful evening , until he was himself wounded , upon arrival at nearby hospital it was observed that he had on his person a number of live shotgun cartridges, of course he was never prosecuted nor even questioned by police. Instead was given a disability pension , large compensation payment and some years later declared himself a photographer of all things and spoke of his “ regrets of past events “ stopping short of acknowledging his true role in events.
well said he was whacked at the corner of leopold street
Nice to hear the truth. This video seems like bullshit aimed at peddling the myth of a protestants v catholics war. Its a war to free Ireland from the colonial British empire.
@@johnmccaughey2722 Most likely the work of a certain Colin Wallace an press information officer in the British army.
You can see the fear and distrust in the ladies face when they try to , doorstep, her for an 'update'.
Our people were not slow on the uptake when it came to being used in Britain's narrative.
@@jamesoneill2933 was colin wallace a bad guy? I always thought he tried to expose some of the dodgy stuff that the British army were up to and he also he tried to expose the kincora orphanage child abuse.
@@jamesoneill2933 reading up a bit about Colin wallace it does appear that he was part of a team spreading lies and propaganda aimed at creating a pro British rhetoric on Northern Ireland. I had always thought he was a decent bloke due to his trying to expose the kincora scandal but truthfully I don't really know a massive amount about him.
21:18 gave me chills.
What a legend that lady is 🇬🇧 no surrender.
That lady was delusional
The IRA would have wiped the floor with them if she had her way.
All the collusion in the world and the loyalists couldnt make a dent in the IRA, only kill civillians like cowards.
They picked a fight from 66-69, got the reaction they wanted, got fucking wrecked and havent stopped crying since
Was it more than just a religious conflict? When an Irish Man says that the British Army is protecting him, something is terribly wrong with this pucture.
It was a conflict about several things. Nationalism, Politics, Ethnicity and Religion. When people talk about the Religious aspect of the conflict, Religion was used mainly as an identifier as to what you were. If you were Protestant, you were for the most part, descendants of Protestant Scottish and English settlers that were brought over and settled here during the plantation of Ulster. This community were primarily pro British, Unionist/Loyalist and supported the continuation of the Northern Ireland state.
The other community are the Catholic people of the north. They are usually descendants of the native Irish people of Ireland. They are primarily Nationalist/Republican and want a united Ireland free from British rule.
It was/is a conflict of identity. What sect or community you belong to. Religion plays a part of course, but it is linked heavily to Nationalism, politics and ethnicity. That is what made it such an intractable conflict. The conflict in the north was merely a continuation of hostilities that have reared their head many times over the centuries in Ireland and led to the deaths of so many people.
That is a very short explanation. A simple explanation because there is a lot more to the conflict. To say it was merely a religious conflict is completely wrong on many levels and it is an overly simplistic and grossly inaccurate way of describing the conflict.
Hope this helps in some way.
(I am from the north by the way)
@@EIRE_321 100% 👍
@@EIRE_321 Although I don't live in Ireland I 🇮🇪 I am an Irish American Catholic your short explanation is of course spot on.... every thing I learned about the conflict I learned from my father... the media here showed absolutely nothing about what was going on during those times there... God bless the Irish... here's to peace & a united Ireland 🇮🇪
The year was 1970, at that time the conflict was a civil war but years later it became IRA vs britisn
Sad and moving but also shows how politics n religion is a poisonous soup indeed.
The woman going on about the army, don't listen to a reporter, he wants you to react, the Brits sent the army to protect you, and you ask any one in the army at that time in Ireland, and you'll find out how hard they had it every day, yet they kept our boys there, and for years after, and don't listen to the reporter, the Brits we're with you, No matter what you were told,
The Brits just want you to be safe and happy all living as one
Hahahah ---eh ok
What is the Capital of Britain?
Impossible to be a true new testament born again disciple of the Lord yeshua and take sides in any of this evil there should be No hatred unforgivness bitterness sectarianism retaliation or violence in the heart of any man of God. The problem wasn't a orange and green issue or a political or religious issue it was a sin issue. The answer is Repent of our sin and trust in the atoning work of Christ on the cross. Ye must be born again. A NEW HEART IS STILL MANS FIRST AND GREATEST NEED
III Para were awesome, absolutely awesome...
Two intellectual heavyweights!
@@briandoherty245 Awesome
@@alastairwest5200 knuckle dragger !
Narrow Water 💥💥 boom boom
@@ruairijoseph We got eighteen and Mountbatten! 🇮🇪 TAL
When are we going to stop labeling people we are all human beings there's room for us all god rest all the innocent victims of this shitstorm
it took a long time for changes ,but with the good friday agreement in 1998 some peace.but thats gonna change again with brexit. a border across the irish sea.
Any relation to Gary Fisher of the UVF exposed as the leader of the drugs trade in the South Antrim Brigade UVF?
The Irish are like this. If Ireland became united nothing would change
You talk shit, read your history boy.
20:00 Everyone in mainland Britain should be made to listen to what this lady says here.
Ahhh, but just to let you know the hundreds of thousands of Irish that built Britain's infrastructure and England because they were compelled by the British to leave their own homes to find employment. I'm talking people, she's talking and using Political football and playing the German (NAZI) card. But, remember, back then the English were the Nazis. Ironically, led by Churchill. And back then, the Catholic MAJORITY were seen as second-class citizens in their OWN land. And the work they did for the British was of the kind only BLACKS would do.
English people do not care about you thick Ulster Presbyterians
@@davideldred.campingwilder6481 Ulster Loyalists did fuck all to rebuilt thier beloved Britain.
@@RobertK1993 yes. But I think that an Ulster regiment got the most VCs during WW1. And I know that they built the Titanic...
@@davideldred.campingwilder6481 Irish regiments got more VC Ulster regiments only fought to prevent Home rule otherwise wouldn't have fougjt as only interested in keeping Northern Ireland British don't care about Ireland or Britain.
it was, and has nothing to do with religious beliefs. It is a clash between to nationalities.
Ulster Protestants are religious bigots and Irish Roman Catholics are political bigots.
Watched this again, I sometimes wander if such a polarisation would exist on the mainland between religious and cultural groups, I doubt this but there is a dark underbelly of no go areas for white British people and conversely for some migrant groups.
Masood. Can i ask where are those no go areas for white British people in Britain in your view…?
I'm a white Englishman, I cant think of anywhere in the UK that's off limits for anyone,thankfully we've moved forward since the troubles
@@paultoomer2756 I would like to agree but there is always a feeling amongst some people that I do not belong here this is not my area, increasing ghettoisation and marginalisation is the issue here.
@@masoodahmed2041 that makes me sad to hear,I wish people would just learn to accept each other
@@paultoomer2756
So would I but I think the haves and have nots have manifested themselves so deeply in British society that some kind of hidden conflict could be inevitable.
Never make "The Troubles" over religion. No one is fighting over theology. One has to look at the preceding history for a few hundred years to get a correct view on what's happening.
It's is a British v Irish war... Always has been... Religion has very little to do with it
sorry mate i was born and bred there and its been religion from day one. Watching this make me so glad i got out of that clergy infested toilet.
@@williammohan9784 all religion is man made bullshit.. But I stand by what I said.. British.. Irish war...... England land grap.. Done the harm...
@@brianmcgovern6207 It was a Scottish King on the English throne who planted Protestants into Ulster and sewed the seed of all the troubles we have had for centuries. And the descendants of those Scottish Prods are the ones responsible for the Troubles. The English may have run the show but it was the Ulster Prods who refused to tolerate Catholics having jobs, housing and equality. All the English i have met couldn't give a toss about religion,
@@williammohan9784 yeah true.. Is that the same thrown that's still in place today..?
@@brianmcgovern6207 indeed it is . But it has no power. Plus i think the Brits would love to hand over the North to the Republic but there is a more than reasonable chance they would be back in six months to keep the Prods from laying waste to the Republic
I have a legally held shotgun and I will use it to protect my child !! aye the take no prisoner protestant & catholic granny brigades back then were hardcore lol
Mm remember when NI was established in 1920, protestant/ un ionists were 2 to 1 in a majority there and then. And despite that 66/34 majority, the then NI Stormont Govt practiced blatant discrimination there in housing and jobs (plus gerrymandering of NI local council areas).No wonder the lid blew off in 1969. Now (NI census 2021) shows the then majority now only at 45%, with the then catholic minority now also at 45%. (The other 10% dont know quite what they want!) Also, the former Prot majority are a much older grouping than the RC former minority.
Both sides are at fault really but Ulster Presbyterians have imaginary siege mentality.
Long live wand god save w queen in god we trust we will destroy the ira provo sinnfein sinners thnk god for the Liberty of the gospel no Rome rule no surrender ever 🇬🇧✊🏻
too many protestants and catholics- not enough christians?
It's Irish soil and always will be 🇮🇪💚🇮🇪
Jesus wept
There are too many dumb people full of hatred and bigotry beating their bloody drums, blowing their wretched whistles and godforsaken pipes in childish display on both sides. They are the ones that should be silenced once and for all for the good of all!
One sided application of law and order. The catholics really were treated so badly but came out stronger prouder and with more diginty. Probably due to truths finding a way through and the realisation of Ireland is Ireland no matter how or who trys to say otherwise. Respect to those who lived through these dark times.
Not really only society and the new economic trends have favored the catholics. Back in the day land and farming made up a large part of the economy and if you had land you had wealth. As the UK and Ireland have become more service sector dominant land especially farm land is not as valuable. Irish catholics are more suited to reading and studying ( apparently ) than physical labor.
The scourge of religion
Irish Roman Catholics Vs Irish Anglicans/Presbyterians Methodist Baptists Quakers Mormans Evangelicals Puritans.
It's not Christians at war, it's a case of pro-anglo vs anti-anglo as a result of British colonial rule in Ireland. It is entirely unfair and inaccurate to label the conflict in Ireland on a purely religious basis. This documentary title should be changed.
The british army go all over the world to help people she says :! Hahahaha delusional
It's a Holy War that was started after the Reformation in England and then Britain then it came to Ireland and we wouldn't Reform to their idea's and so we Died and during this my Pregnant Mother was shot by British Soldier's in 1970 under a Curfew which lead to The Battle Of The Fall's! The Orange Order was created to Combat The United Irishmen and the Scottish King Jame's of England fled to a Catholic Country close by like France but choose Ireland so this was not started by the Native Irish as it was created a Monster in the Foreign Scottish Planters!
Christians? I don't think so
Love the title Christians at War when there isnt a true Christian bone in any of their bodies.
Exactly, more like greed.
@@williambuchanan8607 Exactly
Isn't religion a wonderful thing!
Aside from nature, religion is the most effect known form of population control. More human beings have been murdered in the name of their god than any other reason.
🇮🇪🇮🇪🤭😢😭💔
You don't understand what a Christian is by your tittle. Christians at war. A Christian is a person who believes in Christ according to the word of God. Born again people. John 3:3,5,7. Nothing to do with this type of religion. Read God's Word for yourself and you will see the faith of Jesus. Then you would not have titled your documentary Christians at war.
You sir are out of touch with reality. I do not dispute your version of Christianity as it is mine as well but you for some reason you have chosen the wrong person to antagonize. I did not make the documentary and I did not write or make up the title. The people that made the documentary in the 1970s did that. I’m not sure what you were thinking or if you’re thinking but as I said I do agree with your take on Christianity.
Ulster has nine counties not six 32 is on the way
There were and still are not one nation,national identity is exactly what divides them not religion. Though now there is a northernirish identity.
Religious war? What a bunch of nonsense...
In the name of god?
In the name of the british empire more likely.....
Propaganda as usual
Theres plenty of hatred on them women and kids is there any wpnder we got trouble here
Upset Ulster Unionists Loyalists have been exposed as sectarian bigots like Irish Republicans and Nationalists are too.
Imagine the Christians were one God in the 1600 hundred century. My god then was my god is better than yours, sectarianism kills the common man.🔑🤝💚🙏🏻
20:00 mrs. mcgarry wears the pants in that marriage lol