What Happens if we Dump the Puck EVERY time - Old Paint Cans Season 3
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In this video we find out what happens if we dump the puck in every single time. It's a strategy a lot of NHL teams use, but can it also be used in men's league hockey?
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What other strategies should we try?? 🤔
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You guys should try a slapshot only challenge or a backhand only one.
Mini stick only for the whole team and I think you lost just because Hayden wasn’t there
I think you should do a blue line shot only
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Not an expert but I think the issue was that u didn't have a fan in the stands or a coach yelling dump it at you.
Fax
The fans love the short-handed breakaway dump ins.
You need more speed entering the zone. If there's no pressure, you're basically just passing it to them on the goal line.
Also need a goalie that can stop a puck. No offense cause its beer league so who cares we play it to have fun
These first person videos really give you an idea of how difficult hockey is and how insanely skilled NHLers are. The puck moves so fast and is so small, you get tired so quickly, NHLers are hitting each other all the time...nuts.
What gets me is the constant direction changes - it takes a lot of energy to stop then go in another direction, accelerating quickly. It's no wonder they can only stay out for about a minute.
Shooting off of the faceoff is one of the greatest moves in beer league hockey! Been doing it for years, but have only scored once off of it haha. More than a few assists off rebounds from faceoff shots when I have sent guys to the net though! Awesome video. Love gopro hockey videos, will be experimenting in the near future (memorial day tourney) on my channel!
I’ve snuck a few past using it but I only try it a couple times a season. It feels too nice to get those clean wins back to the D
@@CoachJeremy that is a great feeling - especially when it is a clean draw to clapper from the D or winger at the top of the circle!
Last season, I had a couple of face off scores which tied the game in the last 30 seconds of the game. Only difference, I wasn't the center, but he got it to me as the D-man and I snuck it by.
Flip it in towards the goaltender from outside the blue line. No matter the speed of the shot, the unpredictable bounce of the puck gets make it really tough to stop sometimes.
That’s a great idea, especially if they try and play the puck. Goalies don’t like it and it usually catches them off guard.
Nice idea
We used to call it dump AND CHASE. I also would do it much closer to the blue line to make that easier and let you take advantage of odd-man breaks where it would be pointless to do this. But it was a fun watch.
dump and chase is a complicated strat that will abuse any cardio differences in your team, if you use it, you gotta take it to the end of the game and keep th e other team on thri feet the whole time, the idea is to make them run outta steam for the last 10 mins, and in that 10 you gotta do as much possible damage on the board as you can, for the other 50 mins you gotta be skating the other team into the floor under the ice. hitting them after the dumps are a good way too to slow down the passing, also the 2nd man in off the dump needs to take away that wrap around pass, maybe not stop it from happening, but stopping the plays momentum off of the pass allowing for more time in their zone for a mistake.
honestly this was a fun one to watch.
dump-in is kind of a system thing...the forwards need to consistently push the opposite side, and pressure the puck. They also have to have the energy and endurance to continue to put that work in. Dump and chase is a system that doesn't require high amounts of skill, but it does require players to have the right instincts, apply the right pressure, and have the right cardio.
Also, this goalie had your number all night. When the goalie's hot, NOTHING works.
Ya we went over the plan in the dressing room, first guy pressures, second takes away the passing option. It just…. didn’t work out that way in the game 😂
That’s a good idea
Love it !!! I’ve got my mens leauge team doing the dump and chase when we can.... or when somebody doesnt have another option. We gain possession more than 50% of the time when we do it and it usually creates havoc for the other teams D and goalie. For you guys though, your dump ins had little to no strategy . Simplest way is to rip it around the boards, and try to pick it up in the other side. ( example, Left winger or left d dumps it in hard around. Right winger goes in and pressures their left d and get some support from another forward and vice versa. ). Sometimes goalies try to come out and stop the wrap arounds too and it creates great scoring chances due to mis communications or mistakes in handling the puck. You guys did a lot of cross corner dumps and made it too easy on their d. Keep practicing lol !!!
The center should be helping pressure on the dump and chase the other winger should be looking to get open out front
the dumps were spot on but you guys forgot the chase part.
My pee wee coach tried to implement a dump and chase strategy. Needless to say our puck recovery skills were non existent. I've thought about trying it in a beer league game. Hard to get the boys on board. I enjoyed this one.
One of our teams strategies from years back was to dump and chase. It works great when the defenseman dump it in and all three forwards go right in as fast as they can. It causes a lot of confusion, forced bad passes, and goals. But you have to dump and chase hard.
I like that idea.
I think the blue line dumps actually were hurting you a bit more oppose to a traditional red, would allow the other forwards more time to build up speed. Also, you can't go 3 hard on the forcheck.
When you do pick up the puck, you can't really send it for a 1 timer like you can off the rush. You might have to transition into a cycle game a bit more.
At the end of the day, you guys got nice hands, good top speed, and got shooters on the ice so you dont really need to be dumping it in. I play with gritty country guys that are strong and have high endurance, so sending them on the race into the corner is actually a pretty good play, after we get possession we cycle + crash net. I'm actually thinking about switching up because even in a no checking league I still get my ass kicked playing that way.
I used to run specific plays off the dump in. So the off wing would stay wide, hard dump around the boards so he could get it just inside their blue line. Center stay high middle dots. The wing could then hit the center, or carry in a bit. If no center pass,hit the other wing behind the net, try to hit the center, back to the point or back to the other winger.
With Jeremy strat, you have to have hit their zone with speed, cant give the D time to make that pass clean, the off wing or lagging center needs to cover that breakout pass along the boards.
The dump in strategy didn't work out too well. But at least every time you open the bench door, Julie Emery is smiling at you guys.
Oof I’m a goalie and that was just bad
Like the trolling aspect and trying something stupid to see how it goes, but normally that is an icing if the puck crosses two red lines, so you need to move after the center red line to dump it into the corner.. Not too sure what league you guys play, looks like the refs don't care about icing at all, but in normal hockey you would'nt be able to do it like that..
It’s blue line icing
3rd line dump and chase. 1st and 2nd line carry the puck, keeps the other team guessing. When dumping it in try to ring it around the the boards so the other winger cant put pressure on the D.
'i was wide open' after a goal is wild :D think you were joking there on 2nd thought :D
awesome, Jeremy)
8:25 in awesome stuff, great content.
I love that this is an odd thing for your group because I feel like this is always my go to. Bad at skating around defense? Just dump and chase!
What u11 u12 u13 coaChes want you to do
Hey there coach Jeremy!
Funny experiment. I play lower level men’s league. What’s fascinating here is that the game flow is similar, even with your elevated skating and stick handling ability.
Hello Jeremy
It’s not just about throwing it in, it has to be done so you can apply pressure afterwards. The dump ins were also done so close to your zone that there was no way to get it back.
Wow
😂keeper is a nightmare
I scrolled way too far to find this comment.
This is literally the Hurricanes entire strategy lol
A team I used to play for would do this but they wouldn’t chase after dumping. So basically just giving the other team the puck. As a goalie it drove me crazy.
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Probably would have worked better if you all had a practice where you focused on everyone's responsibilities on the dump in. Looked like half the time their outlet guy on the other side was unopposed.
Ya they had a lot of easy exits
Isn't 6:12 an icing because he didn't cross the center line
Laughs in Carolina Hurricanes
Tbh dump and chase is harder to pull of in no hit leagues compared to giving it to the D and then forcing them to quickly throw it away before they get crushed
based on what i see in the stands. dump it in might work all game
A lot of Swedish teams do dump and chase since the early 90:s. I hate it. It's better to never dump and always hold on to the puck like 3 on 3 play and leave the offensive zone instead to maintain possession. If the first carrier can't find an open player before or after rounding the net, leave the zone and pass in the neutral zone for a second wave and keep doing that. If the opponent never gets brake away's and can only get the puck on face offs it makes it hard and frustrating for them. They open up.
Dump and chase is an inferior system generally, but especially at the lower levels where players may not be able to pass and possess the puck as well it can make sense. If an NHL team adopted it I would laugh, but for a peewee team or something I get it.
If I was dumping it in a would try to go as fast as I could and go for the rap around
It works better in contact hockey because of the nature of the system, you dump when all other options are out usually or from a call from your coach for a change up, etc..
You apply 2-1-2 forcing the puck on the side and that’s already covered buy the 3 rd player, you are trying to force a mistake and reverse the attack while still covering défense. Without real body interference, forcing players out of play, this is a lot more difficult to force the other team into it.
They’re probably gonna be like stop dude just stop
Turns out dump and watch doesn’t work
The crowd (remember them) starts to boo.
You had no follow up on your dump ins. So you should get control of the puck and have your forwards start streaking to the line then when you dump it in they are already at speed so they would get to the puck first. You guys never really had anyone streaking toward the line on your dump ins.
Is there no icing in this league?
Think your dumping to early and are not fast enough to track it down. Maybe wait for the red.
Dumping with no forecheck is just giving away the puck.
Once you give up on the dump though, their d probably isn’t giving any pressure gaining the zone.
the entire concept of this is counter pressure and potential man marking, with nobody properly following in and nobody man marking the outlets its very easy to play against and it just forces your own teammates out of position. i think the point I'm making is when done right it can work very well, if you've not drilled it/your team lacks the fitness, avoid avoid avoid.
What level is this?
How were noe of these an icing call
In some leagues, they use your defensive zone blue line as the icing line, not the red center line.
no
That was the best dump and watch ive ever seen. Now try chase.
Wouldn’t happen at the Peterborough memorial centre, to square 😂
Need more chase
You’ve got to pressure way more bro. Corner and 2 people pressure really really hard
Jeremy, be honest, are you casually strolling around to match the other players?
Dump ins work when you have a fast, aggressive forecheck. You guys left HUGE GAPS between the puck and your forecheck. Very lame. Basically, all your team did was give up possession before the offensive zone.
Why are you dumping and chasing in a no contact league? Dump and chase is part physical, grinders get in and take the body and cause chaos. They wear down defensemen. They pressure not only with hockey but with taking the body. In your league I would just skate the puck in. For instance the team you faced in this game for wasn't playing some super Trap defense. You could have skated in all day but decided to dump and chase, but really it isn't needed. But if you had fun trying it, why not.
To quote the beginning of the video “in my 20 years of playing mens league hockey, I’ve only done this twice” It was an experiment
No offense but change your goalie man jeez
Dump no chase strategy
no i wouldnt try it. im trying to win. using it once in a while is fine when you need to but doing it every time you cross the line is dumb lol
Tough to execute a good dump and Chase without body contact
Just doesn't work in adult rec league. You may catch their defense off guard once in a while but usually a waste of time. In lowest league here
Rotary arena?? Who is this guy??
play off wings.. will be better off the boards with a dump in
this makes me dizzy
Why the video, why the effort? Just call Chris McSorley and ask him.
Are you the captain?..
Not to be mean but ur goalie let in a lot of softies 😢
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These dude look old and tal im glad im getting old but im still move so I vibe like a 13 year old Swedish kid on the ice
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short handed breakaway dump-in is just jordan staal
Dumping the puck in mens league should be a 5 minute major. Make a play ffs
This is literally what my kraken started doing. I love it and hate it