Defending the Homeland: Poland's Apache vs Belarus | What We Know So Far
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Poland has signed a contract to procure 96 AH-64 Apache helicopters, enough for six full squadrons. Find out what led to this decision and how the dynamics in Europe have changed since the onset of the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
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00:00 Intro
00:24 | Increased Spending
01:31 | Abrams Tanks
02:15 | Apache E model
05:19 | Border Security
07:23 | Escalating Tensions
08:24 | A special Message
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It really is not surprising that Poland purchased the Apache helicopters and Abrams tanks.
Poland takes their sovereignty and national security seriously, unlike several other European countries.
@@irenagreg7373 what drugs are you on because i want them
It really is not surprising that Poland purchased the KA-50 aircraft and K-2 tanks.
Poland takes their sovereignty and national security seriously, unlike several other European countries.
Those limp wristed, cashed up neutrals are feeling the pinch now. Offloading weapons to another country to give to Ukraine puts them right on the radar. Pick a side and get into it. Better be OUR side or you are fertilizer.
@irenagreg7373 Big Brother and Poland, work as a team.
Polands way of securing itself is spending on military, while some other european countries secure themselves by making alliances and buiseness with potential enemy. It's not a proper unity they present, but it may end up better for them...
Poland isn't just stocking up on US equipment. They're acquiring more Korean tanks than US tanks along with other mechanized equipment.
The Korean tanks are good ones.
@@wadopotato33 Plus Poland hopes to build (and sell) those same tanks.
@@wisenber Hopefully they can do it cheaper. The Korean tank is set to cost more than 10 milliion per copy. Not sure that isn't too much in an era when a 500$ drone can take on out. A strong Poland is a good thing.
@@wadopotato33 It may or may not be cheaper, but the salaries and taxes would remain in Poland.
They Korean tanks fit a different role than the larger Western MBTs. Most of the bridges on Europe can't support the weight of an Abrams or Leopard.
As far as drones go, until something is able to replace the role of a tank, tanks will be needed. That, and anti-drone tactics are being developed about as quickly as drone tactics. A 50 cent shell can knock out a $500 drone, as can 10 bucks worth of netting.
Don't forget Italian helicopters: AW149 and AW101
We should support Poland’s move to strengthen their military.
Why don't you just talk to your potential or imaginary "enemy" ? Isn't it something what your Holy man was preaching about ? You are part of World community. Be responsible, prove that you deserved to be resurrected after WW 2. You had such potential, but still can't get over Katherine the Great. By the way wasn't she - Katherin the lover of the last Polish king ? Look at your own actions. Polish aristocracy, lunacy of Liberum Veto, corrupted and backward church. Now, who is threatening you ? Maybe you should simply look in the mirror. Uncle Sam is far, faaar away. He and grandpa Joe will sell you more that you ever need. It is only business. Americans know polish jokes. Some might even pinpoint your location on the map. But you call yourself Europeans and smart ones. Choice is yours. Just forget about your past empire and stop meddling in other countries affairs. You wanted to punish Iran not long ago by hosting anti Iran conference. Now housing and parade Swetlana a "future leader" of your neighbor Bielorussia. In the latest move your clewer politicians want to dismantle Russia. Poles - don't you love your children ?
why?
Poland is the border between NATO and Mordor.
So maybe I am not as smart as you are. You are saying that your nuto is that Mordor ? I tend to agree. Go nuto, go nuto...Poland had a very nice relation with Third Reich just before WW 2. Even Goering was often hunting with polish dignitaries in Bialowieza Forest. CZcams has a little clip from 1938. By coincident of course that is the same year when Poland took part in dismembering of Czechoslovakia by Hitler. They simply did not call themselve nuto than. @@KS-xx5xq
I support Russia to make glass parking lots. Keep poking the sleeping bear and he will devour much flesh.
as i polish person i thank u for making this video
We went to see 👀 a war between Polish & Belarusian. We in will buy popcorn 🍿 😎 & watch . It is going to be very entertaining.
@@ahmedalsharman I agree. But you need to hurry up because it wouldn't last long until we would reach out Moscow.
Regardless of the outcome in Ukraine, there will be a tense border with Russia and Belarus for the foreseeable future. To avoid problems it’s pragmatic to provide a powerful deterrent. Poland will be able to secure itself and be valuable to NATO.
What you mentioned is only part of what they are doing with huge orders from South Korea for tanks, artillery, light attack/trainer aircraft and missile art. Orders for new frigates and new IFV's have also been placed, some of these huge I think eventually the South Korean deal will be for 1000 tanks and 600 SPG. I think Poland has accepted while this will be expensive it is a lot cheaper than being invaded!
also BETTER and cheaper than ameritard shit
Belarus is currently in the “fuck around” stage.
I’m interested to see what happens if they enter the “find out” phase.
They are on our side, but keep the illusion. Czech movie, noone knows a thing ;)
@@movement2contact No, they are on our NATO side. Im from Poland, fool.
We know those people, they are allright, before the war they used to tell us in secret they envy us the allies we sided with. They tried to break free from dictatorship of Lukashenka and rebelled against forged election but they were suppressed brutally in 2020.
About 33 thousand were arrested and some even died in prisons.
Before that there were protests in 2010 and 2017.
People out there want democracy and maybe even join EU, but Lukashenka (mostly supported by ultras or old people) and his army doesnt allow any opposition. That is, it was like that, but they are on the other side and most likely victims to anti-west media broadcast.
@@movement2contact Also, in russian alphabet there in no Z or V
They should keep to their letters, not steal ours those bandits.
Personally I recon its hidden meaning is the path on map their army wanted to walkabout towards Europe.
We should unite and paint E on ours or N and say it stands for Europe and NATO if anyone asks.
Belarus is a fake country tho it will be either Russia or Poland in couple years.@@KS-xx5xq
Poland will be beyond great!
Poland always great.
3:30 Poland doesn't actually operate the F-35. They are ordered but not delivered yet. thanks for the great video as always:-)
Good catch and thanks for commenting!
The KAI FA50 is the bridge before they get the Raptors
@@DOI_ARTS I think you mean the Lightning II, not the Raptor.
@@DOI_ARTS there's sub zero chance in hell that poland will even get 1 raptor. and FA-50 is no bridge for anything whatsoever.
@@riskinhos noone wants to buy raptors anyway. We are content with f16s and f35. FA50 is just a good "everyday use" and training aircraft with some combat capabilities.
Poland grew up....they grew up from being the kid all the bullies picked on...Germany and Russia, and grew into a very large, strong and smart person, who will not get bullied again...
Or USA's biggest ATM... just like Taiwan... only time will tell.
Or they just gave in to the overwhelming pressure from the EU.
My good friend who immigrated from Poland in the 80’s, hates Russia/most Russians with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
"Poland grew up."
They picked their allies in advance. They didn't have any at the onset of WWII.
@@Orphican "Or they just gave in to the overwhelming pressure from the EU."
Neither the EU nor NATO had to ask Poland to join. Poland asked them.
The pressure they did have was finding a way to avoid what they just escaped in the early 1990s.
As a Mission Crew Commander Air Battle Manager on AWACS, this was pretty accurate, right down to JTIDS and he even pronounced it like us military folk. Jay Tids. Poland was caught with a very outdated military during WWII with horse mounted cavalry. They never want to be behind the curve again and now have quite a formidable military. Both Apache and Abram buys are beneficial for us and them.
They don't want another Stalin era under that jerk Putin.
With the horses, it's a myth, it was part of German propaganda to boost the morale of German soldiers. In fact, the Polish army was very strong for the area, while they were not mobilized, because the allies told them not to mobilize the army so as not to provoke Hitler, it was thought that the war could still be avoided
You're right, Poland was about 10 years behind Germany in terms of technology (back in those days, 10 years in aircraft development was like 25 years today; compare the biplanes of the 1920s with the aluminium monoplanes of the 1930s, it's a different era), but the story about cavalry isn't quite true. Yes, Poland and Germany both had cavalry units. They were particularly well suited to operate in the eastern parts of Poland, which had a very sparse network of metalled roads and huge swathes of marshes. In fact, cavalry could move much more freely than wheeled vehicles.
But the famous story about Polish cavalry charging German tanks is a product of German propaganda. Polish cavalry did charge a unit of German infantry, and in fact the Germans panicked and were totally routed. But soon after, a German armoured unit counterattacked and naturally hit the Poles very hard. With no ATGMs in existence at the time, light infantry/cavalry was pretty much helpless against tanks. At that point, the Germans filmed the site of the battle, with dead Polish cavalrymen and German tanks, perpetuating the myth of the Poles charging against tanks.
Another contribution to the myth was Andrzej Wajda's 1959 film "Lotna", which has a scene of a Polish cavalryman attacking tanks, but this is a poetic reference to the helplessness of Poland against a stronger enemy, not a realistic portrayal of the actual fighting.
Another important escalation event not mentioned, but of course very relevant aviation wise, was Ryanair Flight 4978 in 2021 between Lithuania and Greece (both EU and NATO members) and the 737 involved was registered in Poland.
Whilst overflying Belarusian airspace, it was forced to diver to Minsk National Airport under false pretences (ATC claiming there was a bomb on board), despite this airport actually being further away than the intended destination, in order to abduct 2 passengers.
This was a significant event in terms of additional sanctions, the banning of Belarusian airlines from flying through EU Airspace, etc.
Good point. Good reminder.
Poland = always a brave country !
Our only hope in Europe.
Unfortunately not always the smartest one. Check the Relief of Vienna in 1683 by Poland and payback by Austro-Hungry in 1772 and 1795. 🤔🤭🤫
you missed ww2 history lessons.
@@irenagreg7373 You mean the one when Polish king Sobieski and his winged hussars defended the city of Vienna from being captured by the Ottomans? What was not smart about it?
That in return later Austria along with Prussia and Russia eviscerated Poland for 123 years ?
Bingo, you just perfectly answered yourself. q@@KS-xx5xq
Great to see Poland taking European defence so seriously.
if only they took fighting corruption and defending human rights that seriously
@@riskinhos What human rights issue are you referring to exactly?
@@alexshmalex if you have to ask you are part of the problem
@@riskinhos Grow up.
@@riskinhos The fact that you can't elaborate proves that it's a lie.
Holy moly, 96 is a lot of Apaches! Poland isn't messing around.
You should hear the full story about Poland's orders across the world, mainly US and South Korea..... Once you hear the numbers you will understand.
Poland is on a BIG military material spending spree aimed at making its fairly flat terrain look much more formidable to cross given their big armored divisions, air power and increased manpower. As highly trained as its ready and reserve forces will be Poland will soon be able to stand against Russia in any conventional weapons attack. And backed by US and other NATO forces Poland will be more than a match for Russian forces let alone Belarus forces.
Russia would, to its regret, discover what TOTAL NATO combined arms tactics can do.
Don't forget that Poland also has multiple Mil MI- 24 Hind helicopters in its rotor aircraft fleet
he's american so he doesn't care.
@@riskinhos I was just pointing out a missing vehicle, that's all
hind is much better seeing as you can attack and transport a small team if need be for ground ops
As a Pole, I can guarantee that 80s action movies influenced the decision to buy Apache, haha
We want to see a war between Polish & Belarusian , it is going to be so entertaining to watch 🍿.
Idk who "we" is, Ahmed, but I think most of us would much prefer Poland's military capability to dissuade anyone from trying anything.
@@Dash62g what the fun in this !! We all like to watch war videos 📹 they are entertaining to watch , explosion , fire , casuality ect . Don't deny that you don't enjoy watching it. 😉
You did not use that logic in Iraq and Afghanistan. Interesting. I will do anything for my MASTER.@@Dash62g
@@ahmedalsharman keep those to Hollywood mr. Ahmed.
Belarussians are allright people, but their president is a puppet to a war criminal.
I watch these apachies fly every day and am really glad they are on my side. I would not want to be on the receiving end of anyyhing flyin above my house.
Excellent film footage and narration. Very good video - thank you!
Surprised the video only referenced Mi-2’s and Mi-8’s for Poland. The actual combat helicopters in Poland that the Apache will be vastly improving upon are the Mi-24 and the indigenous W-3.
An excellent point and an oversight on my part, thanks for commenting,
Ah yes the European Texas, brings a tear to my eye
Good foor you, we can also bring pain to your arse if necessary.
Damn right
its funny how every single us media completely ignores the fact that polands main seller is by far south korea
US are just jelous that SK has developed into an equal business partner in the field of armaments :D and Poland is simply pragmatic as usual. quick purchase from several sources plus technology transfer will soon allow Poland to produce and sell good and proven equipment in Europe in cooperation with Korea
Thank you from Poland 🇵🇱❤️🇺🇸🙂💪👍🙏 it's liked, subscribed and shared.
Awesome content!
And because Poland is updating military capabilities, Poland has become the biggest donating of old Russian military assets:)
The amount of helicopters hasnt been dosclosed yet, 96 is the number which US Senate agreed to sell to us, but the number can be smaller.
Good for Poland! At least they and the rest of the Baltics are showing they have cojones to deal with Russia.
You wanna repeat history? For what
@@caseinnitratjr6861 History is repeating itself. Sticking your head in the sand will not solve anything. The Poles lived through this back in 1939 and the world stuck their head in the sand.
@@louferrao2044 putting gasoline into the fire will not help either.
@@caseinnitratjr6861 I rather take the bull by the horns and defend myself than to allow a bully do whatever they want. You do not stop evil by ignoring it. That has been the problem with NATO, worrying about "Escalation" all they while they allow Russia to escalate it at will. Cowards!
@@caseinnitratjr6861 Before the war, everyone gave in to Hitler, he wanted more concessions, and it ended up in a war. It was similar recently with Russia. You have to defend yourself against an aggressive neighbor, not give in to him
Thank you❤
Yes, I think it's a good acquisition
Poland doesn't like surprises from Russia and Belarus. Definitely, Poland prepared for any eventuality and ready for action in case bad neighbors behaving badly
New to the channel - subscribed, I like it!
The idea of carrying AIM-9Ls was more of a sales pitch than anything, the stingers is true though earlier variants and some exports versions can carry as an extra from of self defense
Thanks
I would love to see a video about specifically how modern data links work.
can't you do a basic search on youtube?
1:14 There is a mistake here, Apache will replace Mi-24 Hind which are in service in Poland, not Mi-2 and Mi-8, latter ones being purely transport helicopters and Hind (often and unofficially called "Ważka" /Dragonfly/ by polish crews) serving as an attack helicopter.
Very good for Poland other countries should step up their spending too Poland is not afraid of Putin
ofcourse we are scared we don't whant war with anyone but we are ready to protect ouer country
It's out, let's check it out.
Make sure it comes with Hellfires!
Yes, we bought 800 hellfire missiles for them, but we're aiming for brimstone missiles as the main apache round.
Poland must have strong build up your protection keep strong support for Poland biggest concern is borders
I wonder if there have been talks to give Ukraine AH-64 and or AH-1Z Vipers?
Neither is survivable enough to do what's needed in that airspace. What Ukraine needs F-16s for is especially air-to-air employment of AMRAAM to atrit the Russian air force and wider employment of HARM. That said, if they can start contesting the airspace they'll need capability CAS assets to follow up on those successes so probably best to start that process now instead of waiting until afterward and giving Russia time to adapt.
Glad to have a NATO member that is upgrading its equipment…
The best attack helicopter in the world. Excellent work, my friend…👏🏼
Thank you Ted!
It's funny. Usually saying anything is the best anything is an exaggeration, but you might be right to say so in this case.
The channel The_Chieftan interviewed an apache air and ground crew recently. They did have some complaints, but some seem to be inherent to helicopters and some relate to the physical age of the airframes.
@@iivin4233I’m apart of the Apache ground crew he came to interview lol. I can tell you the Apache isn’t perfect at all especially the ones in the video. They require alot of maintenance per flight hour but it is a heavy hitter when it does fly…
Lukashenko is about to learn the hard way what “FAAFO” means…
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Poland great developement military
Defense system
In order to be able to build up functioning defense capabilities in Europe, Germany would finally have to give up its naive attitude on the subject of defense.
Pavehawks/Blackhawks, Spectre and they are set to rock and roll anytime.
Poland Power ❤
Great video ! Thanks . Please keep up your good work.
Thank you and will do!
yes
Considering the Apache was designed for what we’re seeing in Ukraine ; it will be an unreal addition . Some say the helicopter era is over becasue of advanced weapons , BUT clearly were seeing Russia is using old weapons and vehicles , where the Apache would succeed
Besides the actual aquisition costs, all this new hardware comes with increased operaging costs and with many other costs on infrastructure, logistics and additional support systems (as communications, cryoto, networking and so on) , that add a lot to the pressure on the nationalbudgets.
If you have a neighbor like Russia, you have to invest in the army instead of schools and hospitals. Before the Second World War, Poland had hostile Germany and Russia as neighbors, and almost half of the state's expenditures were the military
Or Poland can continue to use Soviet era equipment? They need to upgrade, and the Apache is a smart purchase. Poland can buy something already in production that has a well tested SOP, spare parts, and gobs of certified mechanics and piolts to draw experience from.This will avoid the added R&D cost to producing a home brew helicopter.
the Apache is one of the best attack choppers to date.
Apache won't replace mi2 and mi8, but mi 24 hind
This speed bump now has teeth
Wow
Why can't they buy the AH1Z Viper??
Not enough firepower, not enough armor, not enough of them built to sell 96 just like that and not really made for the job that Poland is buying for, which is decimating advancing Russian armor and not providing support for spec ops taking St.Petersburg.
Wow nice jet disane
Photog F16 + F24 Hocat
I'm still waiting on you making a video doing a review of the aircraft in Arma 3 and comparing them to their real life counterparts lol
That would actually be a good livestream topic for an upcoming Sunday show - thanks for commenting
Anything to help
"This speed bump has teeth"
Would have gone with the likely much cheaper updated Cobra. Ukraine has pointed out how "Not Survivable" helicopters are now and how cheap drones can be effective.
you forgot polish corruption and ameritard imperialism
Russian 🇷🇺😎?@@riskinhos
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Um ..... doesn't it require 3000man hours maintenance per mission/sortie 🤔🤔🤔
Poland's not taking any chances. This time they're serious
And here on UK were well
as a Pole ...i see them babies flying around every single day near my house. always flying in 3!!!
What is the average life span of a tank in battle? Slightly higher than a flying pinata
Wow, just now got a notification from screw tube.7 minutes after it was posted.
Name of channel again?
@@gyasiansa3358 this one.
I'm not sure if this would help but maybe turn off notifications and then turn them on again?
@@PilotPhotog I'll try it, it just tends to settle in with certain channels sometimes as a trend. I'll let you know.
@@JSFGuy thank you, do let me know - I appreciate it!
Too bad the Patreon or other support pages don't cross over here, I'd love to get rid of this CZcams highway robbery they scalp your earnings more than anyone. Just signed up on Patreon.
Thank you for becoming a Patron!
@@PilotPhotog 🙋
Apache helicopter one of the most deadliest helicopter in the world the helmet does all the work if you turn your head left or right the weapon system target follows . Proud to be an American soldier 🪖
Poland's purchases shows how embarrassing pathetic Canada"s support is for the Canadian Armed Forces is.
you expecpting canada have a larger military then poland? the country that never threat of anything while poland is near russia?
@johnn1250 Canadians have a much higher standard of living and far better and more modern infrastructure and social benefit programs than Poland.
That is where large amounts of tax dollars have gone rather then into a military that rarely sees action and certainly not on its borders.
Australia is the same because our threat levels have been low for decades.
@@GM-fh5jp higher standard of living and far better and more modern infrastructure 🤣 yeah sure
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1:08 In Poland, Apache is to replace Mi-24, The Mi-8 and Mi-17 were supposed to be replaced by H255M Caracal but pro retarded minister of defense canceled the agreement. Now they are supposed to be replaced by AW101 which will be very expensive. Unfortunately, CH-47 was never took for consideration
Excellent point and thanks for commenting!
What Poland spent on the apache helicopters, they could have built super cobras that are simpler and will stay in the fight much longer.
Cobra is better for Naval operations, Apache much better for land battles and mountainous regions in the attack role. Keep in mind the Apache was specifically built for a European battlefield, that was its original role. It also has the benefit of having better information technology leading to a better interconnected battlefield. Poland is incredibly smart with these acquisitions, the napkin math does not do it justice.
Greetings from Brazil
With those beautiful new Gripen E fighters !
Greetings from Texas!
May God Three in One protect as well as bless Poland and her amazing people.
thanke you and may God bless and protect your country and your people too 😊
the Katyn forest massacre is still fresh on their national consciousness
Ukrainians wasnt better did you heard what they did to us in Volyń? but altought we remember what Ukrainians did to us and we will never forget today we help them
Maybe Poland can loan some balls to Canada's leader. Canada's future depends on this.
Drones are more effective when it comes to protecting your borders #PilotPhotog
96 no 32
Have never heard "Belarus" being pronounced "Belaruus" before .
Looks like its raining money on Poland
Good choice Poland now can defend hi tech Armaments .
I can't imagine going from an ancient Mi-2 to an Apache. Once Poland actually aquires all that they have orders for, they alone will be a match for Russia, even without the rest of NATO
Can anyone blame Poland for taking the correct action of strengthening its armed forces, rf needs to realise it’s not going anywhere further.
We must all aid the defeat of rf inside Ukraine ✌️🇬🇧🇵🇱🇺🇦🇺🇸
uurrah belarus
ព៉ូឡូញចាប់ចាយលុយចាស់ បន្តើរៗហ់ើយ បន្តិចទៀតនិងបោះក្រដាស់ប្រាក់ក្រដាស់ចាយ ប្រទេសនិងខ្លាយជាអ្នកមានជាងគេក្នុងពិភពលោក ដើរទៅណាមកណាគេខ្លាច ទៅខ្ខីប្រាក់គេ សង្ឃឹមថាប៉ូឡូញឈ្នះៗៗ
Poland needs 300 F-15EX
Can that Apache stop a tactical nuke? Belarus 🇧🇾 has about 500
Bro USA, uk and france has 6500+ and Belarus doesn't have nukes russia has and they gave it to there puppet state and yes Belarus is a puppet because with out russia they are weaker than Serbia and a strong country doesn't have to threaten nukes but by military force only and if Belarus activates one Nuke they are done, west will steam roll russia and Belarus as shown in Ukrainie who has a tiny part of nato weaponts and if you say that Belarus has nukes you are showing that you are weak with out them and you are ready to destroy every thing just because you are losing. And yes anti missile system can stop a Nuke and probably half can't work.
Belarus without Russia don't have any nuclear weapoons so who told you they have about 500 nuclear weapoon? we are in NATO and ouer allies also have nuclear weapoons so that means my country have nuclear weapoons too? it's weird what you are saying
Poland isn’t snowed by the shenanigans of Belarus. Far from it. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what Belarus is up to. Their actions are clearly provocative and it is clear and plain they are pressing for a fight. When Poland gets all this new hardware, the actions of Belarus will change or Belarus could find out how serious Poland is about their sovereignty. This acquisition isn’t a ruse. It is a change that will cause Belarus to think twice before they pick a fight. It will also cause NATO to step up and help if needed. NATO isn’t backing down. It would be unwise to provoke any more conflictive situations. They already have enough issues on their plate.
Belarus has enough on their plate!
Will the Apache survive manpads?
Apache: proven against Saddam, not even against Taliban ; who were literally defenseless against arial attackers
***Defending the Homeland: Poland's Apache vs Belarus | What We Know So Far** we know that Belarus helicopters flying over Poland and Apache is on the lunch break. ;)
Poland...not a Push-over, People!!!
Poland is now the Texas of Europe 😂😂😂😂
with best of the world Polish pilots east zone of Nato will be allways safe
America needs a wall on our border
How does that stop most drugs that come through ports of entry?
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