Stop Stacking Firewood! Easy Access & Dumping W/IBC Tote Mod
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- čas přidán 24. 12. 2023
- Filling IBC totes by loose tossing or via conveyor is so much easier than stacking, but unloading them was a pain, until now! New Lambo Gate IBC tote mod allows you to easily access and dump your loosely filled totes! No more reaching through the holes or tipping totes over to empty them. I was watching @sawingwithsandy and @HometownAcres this week and saw some of the struggles we all face with loose thrown IBC totes full of firewood and thought their has to be a better way. Well this is it! Another installation of IBC tote wars. What do you thing John from @fricknjeep for loose tossed, this seems to be a viable option! I'll show you how to modify your IBC cages for maximum efficiency and ease of use!
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hi there john thinks it is real good. well done
Thanks John, I think it’s going to work pretty well. Still wish I had a saw mill to build the FrickNJeep racks.
Heath looks like 👍 you’re the new man on the block and with that John will try to out do again 😮😊❤
John is a very knowledgeable man, I learn a lot from him!
Perfect! I was going to turn an old IBC into a fuel can locker (don't tell osha) and this solved my door problem. Following your design but clad it in old corrugated galvanized steel roof panels, and put in a shelf and I'm done. Plenty of ventilation but still out of the Florida weather Thanks!
This way works great!
I suggest using a cheap ratchet strap to hold the bottom instead of the Paracord and cleats. The ratchet strap will release easy under load and it doesn't require installation, just hook right onto the cage. Thanks for the video! I like that you leave the top bar intact, it seems stronger that way.
Thanks, we did an updated short and we figured out a way to not need any thing to hold it down!
I like it Heath! You have until spring to keep perfecting it before I need to start making mods in my wood yard 😂😂😂
I’ll keep working at it!
Great job Heath. That’s exactly what I was going to try. I hadn’t figured the side attachment yet but I think the boat cleats and paracord is perfect! Merry Christmas to you, Rachel, and the kids!
Merry Christmas Dick!
Thanks, and Merry Christmas. I’m thinking it will work too. I’m sure someone will come up with a better way but that’s what I love about this community.
Another great contribution to tote month 2023! Merry Christmas!
Thanks! It’s been fun to come up with different methods.
I agree with your shopping experience of planning to buy 3 items for $25 and leaving the store with bags of "good stuff" that you bought on sale.
Good idea for the tote. A few videos ago, you mentioned that it would be difficult to reach in under the top rail. I think the configuration of the tote depends on what you are doing and your priorities.
Merry Christmas.
Thank you for the videos.
For sure, this was also a 330 gallon tote which is a bit taller helping the front bat be more out of the way but it definitely depends on the situation, no one best answer.
Great idea Rachel! Thats why you’re the CEO of HWM. Merry Christmas!! 🎄
She’s definitely the CEO! Merry Christmas!
Can't wait to see the final version in action! Keep up the good work Heath.
Thanks guys! Happy New Year!
Very good idea. Be interested to see how they hold up over time. I like the way you are always thinking! Keep up the good work.
Thanks, I think they’ll hold up pretty good. Out of the few totes I’ve ruined most have been while trying to dump them.
Nice job, I think this is the best revision yet! I definitely think this is the winner for a multi purpose modification.
Thanks Tony, we’ll definitely be using this method too!
Works like a charm. Happy New Year to you and your family.
Thanks Jerome, happy New Year to you and yours as well.
I like the idea, critters will probably chew on your paracord.
You may be right. If so we’ll try another method.
I think Karen and Phil from Allen's Family Firewood are on the right track for staging, transporting, storage and loading process Firewood. Yankee ingenuity and cost controls along with return on investment is what matters on the balance sheet at the end of the day. Being the Firewood Czar for the Falmouth Lion's, I do not have the same logistics. Wood is donated, labor is donated, yard and processor donated. I know the hard overhead costs, it's a hard business. You guys have a passion and love watching your videos, keep thinking outside the box. Merry Christmas to you and all your followers.
Thanks John, Phil and Karen are putting a real nice operation together for sure!
That works awesome . Great idea you two . Merry Christmas Heath and Rachel 🎄🎁
Thanks Del! Merry Christmas and happy New Year!
Nice idea. Would never have thought of cutting the front out. Merry Christmas to you all
Thanks Jim.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Thank you and Merry Christmas.
You’re always thinking Heath! Keep it up👍💪👍
Thanks Jeremiah.
Have you thought about using the face cord firewood bags? That's what I use. No fabrication required, flips just as easy, and it actually holds a full face cord.
That's what I use as well and I really like it. Takes the work right out of it. I bought a full pallet of 260 log lift bags direct from NNZ in GA for $13.50 per bag plus $350 for shipping. I made a metal rack holder to hold the bags and I use pallets to sit them on. I bought a 3 point quick attack so I can use my tractor forks in the back to move them around because I use my log graple on the loader that way I don't have to constantly switch attachments. Works amazing.
I have not used the bags yet but am not opposed to trying them.
We may have to try the bags soon as I’ll be out of totes.
Love the ingenuity Heath! Hope it works and hope it lasts!! Merry Christmas Heath, Rachel and the kids!!
Thanks Obie, hope you had a great Christmas and have a happy new year.
Great idea. Nice job. Merry Christmas.
Thanks David!
Great concept. Will be interesting to see how the IBC’s hold up after a number of dumps/reloading.
Thanks George. Hopefully they hold up!
Great idea. I’d say it will work great. Have a great week.
Thanks Noel.
Your new revised IBC tote will save all hand loading of the tote. (1 touch is saved)!
The automated dumping with "a flap" is excellent.
I sent a similar idea to Brad (firewood at the furnace) a few weeks ago:
Brad,
Here is a cheap and easy solution to dumping IBC totes into a dump trailer that will:
1. Eliminate the "extra touch" of the firewood for those that hand pile the splits into the tote.
2. Allow easy dumping of the tote with no expensive and heavy "rotator" required.
Here is how to create "the flap":
---You must first cut out the entire metal face of each tote (leaving the top rail intact), then make some 1 inch wide "galvanized strapping strips", and bend them over the top rim and attach them to the top of the "cut out face section" with bolts and washers and nuts. This will act like a "flap".
--- At the bottom of the "cut out face section", you must attach 2 small lengths of rope, which will "hold the bottom" of the flap shut, when filling the tote from a conveyor.
--- You must "keep" the bladder:
(This is needed to create a slippery surface that the "firewood splits" rub against, and to prevent the splits from sticking out of the tote and causing obstruction when dumping the tote.)
1. Cut out the top, and bottom, and front of the bladder, and set it aside.
2. Reinstall the remaining part of the bladder, back inside the tote using wire to fasten the plastic bladder to the metal tote.
3. Attach the "cut out front section" of the bladder to the inside of the "cut out face" of the metal tote using wire.
Here is how it works:
---You will fill the empty IBC tote (from your conveyor) with the "flap" shut and the 2 pieces of rope fastened to the metal tote at the bottom.
---Then, transport the full tote to your woodyard for seasoning for 6-12 months.
---Then, haul the seasoned tote back to your dump trailer, to attempt dumping the tote into the dump trailer.
---But first, remove the 2 pieces of rope at the bottom of the flap, and swing the flap straight up and over the top of the tote, just like "opening a door".
---Then, using your skidsteer or tractor forks, dump the tote into the dump trailer.
You now have "touchless" filling and easy dumping of the tote.
---To make dumping the tote slide easier, I would pile the bottom row of the tote by hand, before filling the tote with any wood off the conveyor.
Put the flat section of each split on the bottom of the tote, in a "north to south" orientation.
If you ever plan to "stack" fully loaded totes 2 or 3 high, you will have to reinforce the tote, since you weakened it when originally cutting off the entire front section.
I would use some 2x2's (about 48 inches long), and jam them between the weakened top rail and bottom floor section on the inside of the flap.
That is very similar. I have though about using part of the bladder to help save the bottom from getting beat up while wood falls off the elevator and it would slide out easier. I also thought about the strapping but thought it may break easier aver repeated bending. I personally don’t stack but would think you could stack one on top okay. Definitely more ways than one to use these totes! Appreciate the comment and ideas.
Pretty smart idea Heath. Great for dumping for sure. You won’t damage them in the process. Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 to you and your family
Thanks guys, Merry Christmas to you as well.
That’s a fine idea!! I really like it!! Looks like it’ll work great too!! Merry Christmas to y’all!!
Thanks and Merry Christmas and happy New Year.
The Lamborghini of ibc totes will work just fine by the look of things. Merry Christmas guys.
Kenny
Thanks Kenny. Merry Christmas and happy New Year.
Great idea looks like it works pretty good merry Christmas to you and your family
Thanks Bill and Merry Christmas.
Looks good! Hope you guys had a merry Christmas 🎄
Thanks Tom, you too.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, Heath and Rachel
Merry Christmas John!
Thanks John, Merry Christmas and happy New Year.
Great idea. I'm definitely going to give this a try. Dave
Thanks Dave, I have more testing to do but think this will work pretty good.
I like it! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Awsome job on the tote Merry Christmas
Thanks and Merry Christmas.
Good job Good video That was a good vision on your part It works So have a good holiday
Thanks and happy holidays!
Happy holidays to you and your family
So Heath when you’re laying there in bed at night, Wideawake and Rachel doesn’t even stir because she can smell the smoke. Does that disturb you a little or do you think she’s already one step ahead of you lol knowing what the morning will bring? The only reason why I say this is because I live the same dream, knowing what the wife will think of your nights invention only to know ,how she will take our next build.
Well, by the look of the smile on her face from the video, I think she’s all happy so you know you’ve done well so your already ready for the next build lol anyway, keep up the good work. Have a great week.
Lol, she does say I wake her up a lot. Probably from thinking too hard. She definitely likes some of my ideas, but definitely not all of them.
Wow, I am in Northern St. Clair County (Lakeport). I did not realize you were nearby.....Gary (Woody’s Sawmill & Firewood Sales).
I go past there sometimes heading up to our property!
Merry Christmas 🎄 that’s an awesome idea for the Ibc!
Thanks Justin! Happy New Year.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors happy new year to both of you!
Merry Christmas and happy new year
Thank you, Merry Christmas and happy New Year.
Merry Christmas to you folks too! Neat idea, but I'll need to get the IBC's first LOL :)
Thanks Ed, and yes having Ibc totes is key to this method! Merry Christmas!
That’s smart 😊 merry Christmas 🎄 to you and your family 😇😇
Thanks Gilbert! Merry Christmas to you guys too!
I might try that way with ones I have already cut part of the top out. I don’t usually dump unload but hand unload at the furnace so I don’t want the top bar across the front. Nice video
Thanks Chris I think it will work with that style too but haven’t tried it yet.
They definitely are a pain to get the bottom half out. I got three these in the garage. I thinking trying something. I just use them half way fill them back up. Merry Christmas hope you and the family had a great day.
Yes they are Dan!
Heath , your brain never stops does it😂😂😂. I like it, not a fan of totes yet, cause I dont have a tractor or means of moving them yet but this looks like a cool idea.
Merry Christmas guy's 😘😘
Thanks Jack, it seems to never stop lol. I’m sure you’ll add a tractor eventually! Once you do you’ll wonder how you ever lived without one.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors exactly how I feel when I split without a conveyor 😂
@@LogCabinFirewood for sure or run a box store splitter.
Looks like a good idea.
Thanks, it’s my favorite way so far.
Merry Christmas ,Heath and Rachel. Heath I will be trying that out this week. I think you have something that may work. I need to figure out how to reuse my previous cut totes. I really would like to fill loose, but may need to stack. I don’t have enough totes to dump loose. I don’t remember you ever talking about bags. Later more discussion on totes to come.
Allen, I have not tried the bags yet but may have to as I’ll have all of my totes full soon.
Lamborghini of totes? Starting to worry about you Heath- besides everyone knows it’s more like a
DeLorean😂Merry Christmas to you and the family
That’s what I said Mike!
Thanks Mike, no worries I’m good I think lol. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas.
I am m 4 hours southeast of Boonville NY show. Joe The Grower.
Nice mod.
-Deburr/Chamfer the Drilled holes, Will save the Cable.
-turn the Bolt cutter 90 Deg to crimp, Come in from both ends..
Mike M central Wi.
Thanks, that will definitely help.
Good idea 👍
Thanks David
Heath it work out for you and Rachel and family . 😊
Yes it did, thanks Leonard!
Awesome I Believe
It will work
So far so good! Thanks.
Covering those raw ends that were cut off is going to be very important. How about a piece of 1/2 inch pvc? Use a forstner bit to drill 1/2 way through the pipe, sliding it on to the tube ends, and , drill some pilot holes, and use some sheet metal screws to keep the pipe from slipping off. You could use any type of material; I suggested pvc because it is easy to work with.
Thanks, I’ve use pvc before to cover the edges. Always room for improvement appreciate the feedback.
I had a better idea. Made a bar to go across top. It is screwed in on each side. Front is cut out but remove screws at base. Use u bolt on top. Put scews back in bottom until you want to open. Solid and easy.
That’s what I love about these totes and the firewood community. So many different ways to do things and constant improvement.
Nice Postma Engineering indeed !
Thanks Eddie.
Ill be curious to how they will hold up after a few years. You should double stack totes to see if they will still be sturdy enough.
I’d think you could still stack them with the top bar left in tact. Time will tell.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors
Heath,
I also came up with your "front flap idea" and ran it by Bert (and Outdoors with the Morgans, and Firewood at the furnace) a few weeks ago.
Bert mentioned "stacking problems"), but I proposed using 2x2's by 48" to strengthen the face you cut out.
I like your top hinges (wire cable). That was better than my "galvanized strapping strips" idea.
Bert has a design for a "dumping box" option. The beauty of "that", is you only build a single "dumper box" instead of modifying 100's of IBC totes.
His idea would not wear out the tote. The totes would not be cut, or weakened.
Bert wouldnt need hydraulics or electricity to dump the tote, if he uses his forks to lift the dumper!
@@garylaszewski7380 so many options with these totes and I’m always learning!
You need to get your outside boiler set so it only circulates when the house is calling for heat. That way your house doesn't get too warm and you will use about half as much wood. I'm speaking from experience with my boiler.
Logger Al
But wouldn’t you have icing issues? That does sound like a good idea if done right.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors as long as your water lines are buried below the frost line and insulated. There is no problem. We live in central Wisconsin where it can get down to 20 to 30 below zero in the winter. I have a Hardy outside boiler with straight water in it and very little insulation around my lines. They are about 5 feet under the ground and come out directly into the back of the boiler. I have never yet had a problem with it freezing. The ground dosen't freeze around the lines because of a little heat loss. My water is 190 degrees when it leaves the boiler and travels around 50 feet under my driveway and into the house. We loose between 5 and 10 degrees in that distance by the time it gets to the heat exchanger in the gas furnace. Witch is really nothing. It's been working this way for 23 years now.
Engineer😂 merry Christmas 🎉
Thanks! Merry Christmas.
You guys have the ABC's of IBC's down pat now! If they start charging for those, you might be better off contacting the manufacturer of the totes and see if they have or what it would cost to build a 'Wood Tote" that would be purpose build for you. Maybe? I don't know what they sell for. Cool idea, nice video.
Thanks Brad, that would be nice to have a custom built tote. I get most of mine for free now though.
How about sleeving the side tubes near the bottom so they become more ridged. Also maybe a piece of bar steel at the bottom to create a channel for the tubes to fit within.
I am thinking after several fills those loose ends may starte to bend out. You have enough play in the hinges you can lift then pull the "Lambo" door open. Might not need the paracord.
Thanks Joe, I’ve considered similar options as well and may try that on one of the next totes.
Love it
Thanks Chris.
good idea to getthe wood out
Thanks Mike.
was watching your newest video with the big Oak rounds. And I notice that pickaroon you are using. Looks like a great tool. Where can I find one
That is my favorite pickaroon. It is an Ochsenkopf and I got it off Amazon.
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Loose dumped in wood for dumping yes. For home use I'd stick with the old way everyone been doing for years.
Thanks Jimmie, we’ll still stack off the axis but loose tossed or conveyor filled from the other machines.
Heath, how about coming up 1 row & use a couple buggy cords, 1 on each side. No tying string & you won’t need to buy any screws , hardware, or string to tie the cover shut. I think it would work awesome I enjoy your videos.
The one row makes it tougher to dump. I have a new way that’s been working without having to tie it down. I’ll try to get a video out with it here shortly.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors , no, I don’t mean leave a row of metal, I mean hook your bungee cord up one row from the bottom of the metal tote. A bungee cord on each side would be more than strong enough to keep the cage end in place. That way you wouldn’t need to purchase the screws, rope & tie down for the rope. It doesn’t look like there is a whole lot of pressure on the trap door when loaded. I like it how you’re always trying to improve on your ideas & love your HWM videos. It’s nice to see a husband & wife working together.🥹
@@user-td2qw6dg7w ahh, that makes sense. Appreciate the feedback and idea.
Heath, are you related to MacGyver. Hope you had a great Christmas
Not sure about related but did watch it a lot as a kid with my dad lol. Happy Holidays!
I think you guys just save me thousands in not investing in a rotating pallet fork. I left my totes intact because I was not sold on methods I have seen dumping with cut outs. I don’t stack in my totes so I like tbis idea. How is it holding up?
They have worked great, we have slightly changed the way we do them now and they are even better. Check our shorts and you will see how we make them now. We had to put heavier wire cable in from our short, but theywork great.
I have an idea for a video about splitting between two different machines you have. How’s the best way to run it by you?
Shoot me an email hardworkingmanoutdoors@gmail.com
Good video and Job should work well. If you are dumping them out there is no reason to stack them anyway they will dry faster not stacked . Take care, be safe and well.
Thanks! I agree we only stack off the Axis so we can fit a little more per tote.
Neat idea. Does your mind ever rest..
Thanks Kerry, and I don’t think it does.
I wood try using bungee cords rather than the para cord. Could be a lot quicker and easier. Good idea though.
I wonder how the rubber bungee cords will work. I e tried the regular ones before for other things and the Sun destroys them pretty quick.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors maybe try taking the bungees off when totes are in storage. Then only use bungees when transporting before dumping. Trial and error. This is what it’s all about.
@@hemlockhomestead8907 for sure!
Not trying to be negative but, I dont understand this at all? Why take away the strenght of totes to get side access. When you can just flip the tote on its side where you want to unload wood and grab out of the top which is now the side? How many times can the wheel be reinvented?
The main reason is to dump into trailers when the wood is dry and needs to go out for delivery. When the wood is loosely tossed I rot he totes it gets hung up while dumping. I’ve ruined more totes dumping them than any other way. This allows for quick easy dumping without wrecking totes.
You need a tractor for each of your properties.
JB that would be awesome!
If you are able to cut the cable to the exact length you need, you can crimp the Nico (swage) with the ends flush to the cable. As the nico is compressed, the end of the zinc coated copper will "flow" over the end of the cable. This will keep you from being jabbed by the strands as they become frayed. Aircraft builders sort of do the same thing except they add a second nico sleeve.
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Thanks, that would definitely be nicer.
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Happy day I wish. Two youths broke my tract and our system did nothing for me. Now I throw wood with one arm. Could you do. Live video from here in NY? I am really stuck here. No food Christmas was just cutting and splitting. Saw is half broken. I am will to pay for transportation and your help. Joe The Grower
That’s no good. Tough times happen to all of us. We won’t be able to get out that way as we’re always scrambling.
Lamborghini's are number one are they not merry christmas keep innovating
Thanks Kent!
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Thanks Carl. Merry Christmas.
I put a ratchet strapped around my tote and bucket and dump them
Gary, I used to do that but using the short safety chain from my Eastonmade splitter works much better for us.
I like that because I don’t Stack in my totes
This is one of my favorite mods. Check out our short about it as I no longer need to tie the front sown the way we cut them now.
Cleats not clevous
Ahh.
There is a better way o came up with...lol
So many different ways to use them!