The Critical Kicking of Slowdive ("When The Sun Hits") | New British Canon

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  • There was a time when the British Music Press had absolute power. Punk, C86, Madchester, Grunge, Britpop, and The New Rock Revolution were all invented and made famous within the pages of NME, Sounds and Melody Maker. But trends are fickle. Once the press got bored of a certain sound or scene, they quickly moved on to the next one, viciously mocking what they were promoting weeks before. Many bands’ careers ended prematurely.
    Slowdive had approximately six months of next-big-thing write-ups and glowing praise before they were exiled. In came Grunge and Shoegaze was suddenly not cool. For the rest of their initial three album run, they were critically kicked, punched and spat on by journalists. They were the enemy of the NME, and deemed monstrous by Melody Maker. Despite creating some of the most beautiful euphoric music of the 1990s, they were the most hated indie band in Britain. This is New British Canon, and this is the Story of “When The Sun Hits.”
    #Slowdive #Shoegaze #MusicDocumentary
    Fact-checking by Chad Van Wagner.
    Soundtrack
    Luar - Citrine ( / luarbeats )
    Jesse Gallagher - The Golden Present
    Luar - Anchor ( / luarbeats )
    00:00 Introduction
    01:05 The Start of Slowdive & The Rise & Fall of Shoegaze
    10:10 Recording Souvlaki: "40 Days and I Still Miss You"
    21:30 Further Backlash & Pygmalion
    25:59 The Re-Evaluation of Slowdive
    Slowdive Souvlaki Pitchfork Classic (2015) dir. Michael Garber
    The Creation Records Story: My Magpie Eyes are Hungry for the Prize by David Cavanagh, 2000, Faber
    Just For a Day Liner Notes, Ian Watson, 2005
    Souvlaki Liner Notes, Ian Watson, 2005
    Pygmalion Liner Notes, Ian Watson, 2005
    “Slowdive: Falling and Laughing” Paul Lester, Melody Maker, Dec 1990
    “The Right Kind of Slow” Simon Williams, NME, Feb 1991
    “Slowdive: Younger than Yesterday” Bob Stanley, Melody Maker, Mar 1991
    “Dive Bomb” Paul Lester, Melody Maker, Aug 1991
    “It’s all atmosphere with us” Andrew Collins, NME, Sep 1991
    “Manic Street Preachers: The Newport Dolls” Andrew Collins, NME, Nov 1991
    “Whatever Happened to Shoegazing?” Paul Lester, Melody Maker, Sep 1992
    “Slowdive: Souvlaki” John Mulvey, NME, May 1993
    “Pitta and Twisted” Dele Fadele, NME, Jun 1993
    “Slowdive: Souvlaki” Dave Simpson, Melody Maker, Jun 1993
    "Slowdive: Pygmalion" John Harris, NME Feb 1995
    “Mojave 3 - Interview Part 1” Anthony Strutt, Pennyblack Music, Jul 2004
    “Mojave 3 - Interview Part 2” Anthony Strutt, Pennyblack Music, Aug 2004
    “Slowdive - Interview” Anthony Strutt, Pennyblack Music, Jun 2005
    “Diamond Gazers: Shoegaze” Jude Rogers, The Guardian, Jul 2007
    “Interview: Simon Scott of Slowdive, Televise, The Charlottes, Seavault, and Lowgold.” Asa Eisenhardt, When The Sun Hits, Oct 2011
    “Slowdive: The Band That Celebrates Itself Again” Lukas Hodges, Noisey, Feb 2014
    “Slowdive on Their Reunion, “Souvlaki,” Creation Records, “Pygmalion,” and Shoegazing” Austin Trunick, Under The Radar, Aug 2014
    “WTSH Interviews Neil Halstead & Simon Scott of SLOWDIVE.” Asa Eisenhardt, When The Sun Hits, Aug 2014
    “Interview: Slowdive’s Simon Scott on the Rebirth of the Influential Shoegaze Group” Hanna Bächer, Red Bull Academy, Sep 2014
    “The unlikely renaissance of Slowdive: ‘Shoegaze became the genre of ridicule’” Alexandra Pollard, The Guardian, Mar 2017
    “Slowdive on Their First Album in 22 Years and Why Shoegaze Came Back” Quinn Moreland, Pitchfork, Apr 2017
    “Slowdive on Reuniting for the Band’s First Album in 22 Years” Justin Joffe, Observer, Apr 2017
    “Why Slowdive’s Post-Rock Masterpiece Pygmalion Still Matters” Marc Hogan and Quinn Moreland, Pitchfork, Dec 2018
    “Slowdive interviewed: ‘The destination was never really discussed or known’” Piers Martin, Uncut Magazine, Aug 2023
    “Slowdive Are More ‘Alive’ Than Ever” Cam Lindsay, Spin Magazine, Sep 2023
    “The perseverance of Slowdive” Ashwin Bhandari, The Line of Best Fit, Sep 2023
    “Slowdive: How Gen Z became obsessed with the 90s shoegaze legends” Will Richards, The Standard, Nov 2023
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Komentáře • 1K

  • @TrashTheory
    @TrashTheory  Před 2 měsíci +115

    Every now and then I get people asking for a playlist of every song mentioned in my videos: Well here's a Spotify link for this one:
    open.spotify.com/playlist/1gqVLATzu07HpsgrqIZFOw?si=da1d6c7bd4e741d9
    and the CZcams Music one:
    music.czcams.com/play/PLooaZ33lSalcQ2-wKM1rpc4qMReHI-KYc.html&si=y0orrMVpZ-cT41Bq

    • @oddunb6190
      @oddunb6190 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Awesome! Thanks

    • @Psykostatik
      @Psykostatik Před 2 měsíci +1

      So much easier than stopping the video to make a list on notepad in my phone 😂 Much appreciated.

    • @sstanfo1
      @sstanfo1 Před 2 měsíci

      Souvlaki Space Station still send shivers down my spine. I love Slowdive

    • @Butchey88
      @Butchey88 Před 2 měsíci

      hero! thank you

    • @papertoyss
      @papertoyss Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ride

  • @crunchyfrog555
    @crunchyfrog555 Před 2 měsíci +620

    I have a particular disdain for Nme in the way they used to (and probably still do) this. I work at Glastonbury Festival and have done for about 20 years. I'm disabled and work in the disabled campsite and thereabouts. One particular year whilst "dressed the part" (as we're encouraged to do), I was trying to get dry, waving my arms about with a multicoloured jacket on and a photographer asked if he could take my photo. I said "sure" and off they went.
    When I return home, I find out NME had posted my photo along with a derogatory "look at this drug addled clown" emphasising that I would harrass you for drugs. Needless to say I wasn't happy and got legal advice. This was about the same time as Morrissey sued them for defamation. I got a big settlement and the idiots were so incompetent I am free to talk about it because I never got an NDA.
    Fuck them always.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 2 měsíci +37

      That's a great happy ending to that story.

    • @mikelevitt7365
      @mikelevitt7365 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Great work on that!!

    • @crunchyfrog555
      @crunchyfrog555 Před 2 měsíci +32

      @@RCAvhstape Not gonna lie, but it caused me a lot of shit at the time, but once I managed to get it all sorted and watch their incompetence too, I had a laugh.

    • @p0werfu11
      @p0werfu11 Před 2 měsíci

      Br*tish "journalism"

    • @2003jackb
      @2003jackb Před 2 měsíci +11

      That's one of the most sickening things I've heard in journalism, and I studied media for 5+ years.

  • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
    @user-sd3ik9rt6d Před 2 měsíci +615

    The enemy of the NME is my friend.

    • @hanktheblesseddeejay
      @hanktheblesseddeejay Před 2 měsíci

      NME writers were sad little fuckers

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar Před 2 měsíci +13

      They are the enemy alright. Bitter old punks

    • @sevendaughters
      @sevendaughters Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@rachelarthere really wasn't a homogeneous view at the NME and was famous for its hostilities within the publication itself

    • @georgeetboom7719
      @georgeetboom7719 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Nice

    • @peterwilson1317
      @peterwilson1317 Před 2 měsíci +15

      Revenge is a dish best served frozen. Slowdive MUST be having the last laugh!
      Interestingly, there was a short lived monthly British music magazine from the early nineties called "Lime Lizard".
      Their editorial policy was basically, 'we have to tell the truth, BUT... if something's shite it's not getting in the magazine.
      We're not going to dis someone's creative effort publicly - given the power and influence that we as music journalists have.'
      i.e. Critics with a moral conscience.
      I wonder who's stacking shelves in Tesco now???

  • @DeadWhiteButterflies
    @DeadWhiteButterflies Před 2 měsíci +518

    I love how Slowdive have been on the greatest redemption of all time. The press simply did not get it. And now after all these years they're the biggest and best they've ever been, and there's kids young enough be the band's own children who have an unwavering fantaticism for them and deservedly so.

    • @zam6877
      @zam6877 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Gawd, we need it
      With things being so stressful

    • @nimhard
      @nimhard Před 2 měsíci +14

      Goes to show how good music is timeless

    • @misstekhead
      @misstekhead Před 2 měsíci +9

      I noticed this as well when I began randomly coming across young Gen Z doing covers of Slovaki Space Station. It’s surreal, but wonderful to see.

    • @williestyle35
      @williestyle35 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Yep. No doubt the bandmates in Slowdive are having the last laugh. _'Everything Is Alive'_ has some good songs and they will be on tour this year. Many of the critics and music magazines that first liked then kept putting them down are not around anymore, but Slowdive has "redeemed" themselves a few times over.

    • @shenanigans3710
      @shenanigans3710 Před 2 měsíci +1

      In Australia, my mates and I all loved them. We didn't read NME etc so I guess we had no idea they weren't supposed to be cool. Then again, I even liked the Soup Dragons 🤣 which got me roundly mocked.

  • @FrithonaHrududu02127
    @FrithonaHrududu02127 Před 2 měsíci +104

    "He was a _____ and she was a _____, but they bonded over their love of The Smiths." The first sentence of every British bands bio for the past 40 years. Another great video.

    • @Antitrite
      @Antitrite Před 10 dny +5

      I couldn't help but read this to the tune of Sk8er Boi

    • @ejenplitobarces
      @ejenplitobarces Před 2 dny +2

      @@Antitrite lmao so did I

  • @ashwinbhandari1989
    @ashwinbhandari1989 Před 2 měsíci +316

    Hey Trash Theory, just wanted to say it is an absolute honor to see my interview with Rachel Goswell be referenced in this video!

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Před 2 měsíci +623

    IT MAAAATTERS WHERE YOU ARRRRE!

    • @Boomblast57
      @Boomblast57 Před 2 měsíci +11

      I’ll never forget hearing that line for the first time alone sitting on my roof stoned out my mind ❤

    • @jsmrt6875
      @jsmrt6875 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I’ll never forget standing 2 feet from this angel as she crooned those words! ❤

    • @intothecountry74
      @intothecountry74 Před 2 měsíci +1

      It matters WHEN you are

    • @liamkinsella3302
      @liamkinsella3302 Před 2 měsíci

      That line hits me in my soul til this day

    • @Alix777.
      @Alix777. Před 2 měsíci +1

      they have 1 good song yeah

  • @soaribb32
    @soaribb32 Před 2 měsíci +230

    Their second album is so comforting to me, it's like a hug from an old friend.

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před 2 měsíci +7

      yeah, the first album was frontloaded and uneven (they should have put "Shine" on the B side, maybe "Losing Today" too). Second album was near-gold. I can see why the music press didn't accept the first one but not why they trashed the second one

    • @rebellionoftherats
      @rebellionoftherats Před 2 měsíci +8

      Their third album is even better

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@zimriel What, Slowdive should have re-used even more tracks from their EPs on the album? Fans are better off just getting the early EPs.

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@ThreadBomb Keep in mind that Neil said in interviews that "Shine" was made for the album but he didn't like it (at the time) so left it for the "Holding our Breath" EP. He's repeatedly expressed regret for that decision.

    • @richardroberson2564
      @richardroberson2564 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Wow I never knew this. Shine was always one of my favorites by the band. Would have had a good place on Just for a Day

  • @hypersphere412
    @hypersphere412 Před 2 měsíci +128

    I'm 50 this year and I got to see Slowdive live for the first time last year. I was so happy I cried. Slowdive sounded so good, it was intensely emotional experience.

    • @germansanchez316
      @germansanchez316 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I'm also 50 and happened the same to me last november in a festival in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The main band was The Cure, who made a long show despite it was a festival. Even though I knew Slowdive were good, they caught me by surprise with such a non decayingly great show, for the compositions, the climates and the audio, which is not so good in many festivals. These guys are fresh and pro.

    • @hypersphere412
      @hypersphere412 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@germansanchez316 Ah The Cure, living in New Zealand I've only seen them once before as well. But we were right at the front and so close I could read the stickers on Robert's guitar 🙂

    • @Fenlander456
      @Fenlander456 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I'm 56 and i went to see them in Manchester a couple of weeks ago, first time i have seen them since around 1990, huge age range of people there from late teens to 60's and the band was absolutely fantastic.

    • @yesackram
      @yesackram Před 2 měsíci +2

      I saw them just before Christmas and I had the very same experience. They're incredible.

    • @mirellatorrisi1397
      @mirellatorrisi1397 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Me too at primavera 2022 with king gizzard at a sideshow! Amazing night. “When the sun hits” has been back on high rotation since then

  • @robertmarles9665
    @robertmarles9665 Před 2 měsíci +101

    I remember those days very well. Melody Maker, Sounds and NME were full of nasty vicious people with no talent of their own who could distroy bands and frequently did. It's almost unbelievable to look back on how influential they were, once they had it in for you it was Game Over. It must be very satisfying for the members of Slowdive, they have been well and truly vindicated. I'm so pleased for them. Hopefully they will continue to make music for many years to come.

    • @fogschool5609
      @fogschool5609 Před 2 měsíci +12

      Yep, nasty, vicious writers who could only spread hate.

    • @1anwrang13r
      @1anwrang13r Před 2 měsíci +8

      Those magazines were influential because back then there was so few other routes to hearing about new music. I read the Melody Maker religiously and, yes, in hindsight they occasionally could be vicious. But they also introduced me to music that I simply would never have heard about before. Curve, Cranes, Ride, Slowdive, Lush, Dead Can Dance, Therapy?, Madder Rose, Underworld, Biosphere, The Future Sound of London, Sugar, This Mortal Coil, Dinosaur Jr - all those and many more were bands that I first discovered on the pages of Melody Maker in the 90s and that I still listen to today.

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 Před 2 měsíci

      The kind of narcissists who run the universities, the media and destroy people by denouncing and demonetising them on political grounds.

    • @sonial1839
      @sonial1839 Před 2 měsíci

      Fortunately Melody Maker and Sounds are now rotting in hell.

  • @biancachristie
    @biancachristie Před 2 měsíci +250

    Things are so different in the US. I can’t remember there being a backlash against Slowdive or shoegaze after grunge; in fact, it seems like we listened to even more shiegaze after grunge hit because 2nd/3rd wave “grunge” was so bad. I learn something new every time I watch your vids

    • @Neenerella333
      @Neenerella333 Před 2 měsíci +23

      Totally agree. Most post punk incarnations got softer and more sweet. It wasn't all for me, but me and my friends never swelled with hate. Alternative Press didn't come for them like NME or Melody Maker seemed to have.

    • @oddunb6190
      @oddunb6190 Před 2 měsíci

      The UK press are pure poison. And music critics are some of the worst of them. Horrible fuckers bitter they never wrote a song themselves.

    • @solearesoul
      @solearesoul Před 2 měsíci +15

      I agree. Where I was on the east Coast, grunge only enhanced the popularity of all “alternative” groups.

    • @fiveleavesleft6521
      @fiveleavesleft6521 Před 2 měsíci +31

      US folk don't really understand how parochial the UK can be. Back then the music press set the musical tone for the whole country and most were bitter old punks who didn't really get "cerebral" music.

    • @biancachristie
      @biancachristie Před 2 měsíci +31

      @@fiveleavesleft6521 I moved to Europe for a while in the mid-90s and got a better taste of the British scene, especially the way the press operates. The bad side is how bands like Slowdive get hyped and then trashed by their own champions, as those (usually older folk with more cultural clout and the bully pulpit of the press) critics move on to something new (honestly because they live in their own ecosystem that survives on novelty, for better or for worse); the good side--at least to Americans like me--is that young alternative and indie musicians get so much serious exposure: until the internet and Pitchfork and such, we really didn't have the kind of in-depth interviews that were a staple of the English music press at its best. I understand how that was all a product of covering a much smaller scene than we have over here, but I still marvel at the sheer amount of lasting talent that the UK has produced in the last half century plus. Part of that has to do with the music press, and those weekly updates of *everything* that *everyone* in the same region all received at the same time, which is integral to keeping the scene(s) pumping. And America is sooooo conservative and retrograde in its mainstream tastes; with music, things hit a gravitational center here and just stick, until a sound is just done to death in endless iterations and imitations, because our music industry is so risk-averse (even today, don't get me started: I'll just sound like a crazy old kook raving in the corner about "kids these days").
      Back in the 80s and early 90s, getting your hands on an import copy of MM or the NME (or Sounds, back when it still existed) was like striking gold; some shops carried them, but only irregularly and they were pretty expensive to purchase. But they were invaluable for learning what was happening months (or more) ahead of when something new finally got over here, even if you had good connections in the record shops and the clubs. For all their limitations, they were a lifeline, especially if you lived in the middle of Middle America, as I did. Exotic (to many American ears) English music kept me sane during adolescence and the tough road into adulthood, and I'm so grateful for all of it.

  • @jschap712
    @jschap712 Před 2 měsíci +72

    My daughter recently got into them independently of my influence, and got excited when she found out I saw them in concert in the 90s, so I also played her some Mojave 3. It's makes me happy that this band I never stopped loving has found success with a new generation, including my own daughter. I remember one time during university I went to the big local new and used record store, and it was quiet since classes weren't in session at the two local universities. One of the employees walked up to me and asked if I needed help finding anything, and I said no sort of flashing a couple of cds I already picked out. So out of curiosity, the employee asked me what I had, and I show him Slowdive's Souvlaki Space Station, and Red House Painters (Rollercoaster). And he goes, Oh, you definitely don't need help. People who really cared about music did not give a flying fuck about NME, etc.

    • @jsmrt6875
      @jsmrt6875 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Red house painters! The most heartbreaking lyric EVER!
      “Glass on the pavement under my shoe, without you is all my life amounts too”😭
      Gets me every time.

    • @jamesleonard2870
      @jamesleonard2870 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Same thing hapoend with me and my son in regards to m bloody Valentine and loveless. He visited a cousin in NY that was obcessed with loveless and he tight my son sone of the guitar set ups. So since then we’ve been lusting to all the MBV together. My dream is they’ll your one more time and we can see them together =] I actually won a ticket to see MBV in sf when loveless dropped. (I was dating one of the djs so it was kinda rigged loks)

    • @credenzamostro
      @credenzamostro Před 2 měsíci

      Rollercoaster, what an album

  • @gardenboydon
    @gardenboydon Před 2 měsíci +306

    This is one thing I like about modern times. Bands aren't dependent on musuc media publications "making or breaking" an artist

    • @oddunb6190
      @oddunb6190 Před 2 měsíci +97

      No instead they’re dependent on an algorithm push paid for by record labels lol

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 Před 2 měsíci +26

      On the flipside, great bands are heard by few people because there's just so much out there now.

    • @alexsmart5452
      @alexsmart5452 Před 2 měsíci

      @@johnchedsey1306 yea, there are some good bands out there, but its like finding a needle in a haystack of syringes(and none of them are clean.).
      So Ive got to qualify this, Im Gen X and admit Im a little lost finding new music thats not at Tower Records in Hollywood(which closed down..very sad). I go on places like Bandcamp and there are literally thousands of bands with the Shoegaze moniker, all with good ratings but only 32 followers and have dozens of songs going back 8 years. Many arent even shoegaze( I ran into one that was experimental jazz doing covers of 80s hair metal). I go to listen and they all sound the basically the same. Like someone got a free copy of Ableton and just halfassed it and now have an EP or a record or 3 records. There are a couple that have promise and a few I really like, but its overwhelming and no one seems to want to call out the crap for fear of "upsetting" someone. So shit is presented as "good enough" and any band that might be "great" gets lost. Maybe my standards are to high. Maybe becasue I grew up with it nothing sounds new/original. Maybe "new music" is for youth. Maybe Gen X music is the best it will ever be and everything else is just a sad copy(Im going to go with that one..lol. It makes it easier. So we were talking about clean syringes. You holding?)

    • @johndonaldson3619
      @johndonaldson3619 Před 2 měsíci +11

      you're right -in modern times they're not dependent on anything and no one want to see them

    • @SmartCookie2022
      @SmartCookie2022 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Regardless of what the media thought about Slowdive, their UK album sales were tepid.

  • @sirrobert23
    @sirrobert23 Před 2 měsíci +98

    I love Slowdive so much. How could they possibly be hated??

    • @TrailerBob
      @TrailerBob Před 2 měsíci +30

      I only became aware of this weird hatred a few years ago. I assumed everyone always considered Souvlaki to be a classic.

    • @austintrousdale2397
      @austintrousdale2397 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Projection, I suspect

    • @sstanfo1
      @sstanfo1 Před 2 měsíci +6

      It defenitly came as a surprise to me to. I knew about the general backlash to shoegaze in the early to mid 90's but I didn't know one of them was singled out like this

    • @fastcarsoldandnew
      @fastcarsoldandnew Před 2 měsíci +2

      They weren't; they were just shrugged at.

    • @Eightball69
      @Eightball69 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Taste?

  • @santiagobauza4257
    @santiagobauza4257 Před 2 měsíci +67

    Discovered Slowdive on FIFA of all places. Star Roving was part of FIFA 18's soundtrack, and it's easily one of the best songs on it, so full of life and energy but also really evocative. That sent me into a rabbit hole, and naturally into the lush soundscapes of Souvlaki. I fortunately got the chance to catch the band in my hometown of Buenos Aires last November, and it was one of the most ethereal live experiences of my life. Their story is a really inspiring instance of trusting your own ability as a musician when you hit on something of quality. Sooner or later people will come around on it.

    • @stickershock66
      @stickershock66 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Similarly, I discovered The Answering Machine - It's Over! It's Over! It's Over! from FIFA 10.

    • @babymilksnatcher
      @babymilksnatcher Před 2 měsíci +9

      at a time where people tend to not go beyond Spotify playlist recommendations and TikTok trending tracks, Fifa feels like the only outlet in popular media that allows a broad audience to discover indie artists and non-English speaking musicians.

    • @rovingstars_
      @rovingstars_ Před 2 měsíci

      damn you’re so me

  • @corinnae.7877
    @corinnae.7877 Před 2 měsíci +56

    Best example how it's actually a good thing the music press isn't taken serious anymore and doesn't influence an artists career. Also "I'm feeling supersonic, give me gin and tonic" will never die out, especially in memory of the Placebo video.

  • @musa7606
    @musa7606 Před 2 měsíci +42

    First heard Slowdive in 91 on my local college radio station in small town Kentucky. Bought Souvlaki when it came out and its been in costant rotation ever since. In May, I finally get to see them in concert.

    • @perfectlyperfectpoint9090
      @perfectlyperfectpoint9090 Před 2 měsíci

      Where did you go to college, WKU?

    • @musa7606
      @musa7606 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@perfectlyperfectpoint9090 Yeah, I was listening to 91.7. At the time it was so weak you could only pick it up in town... Unless you hooked your radio up to a tall TV antenna ha ha. Later they boosted their power significantly.

    • @perfectlyperfectpoint9090
      @perfectlyperfectpoint9090 Před 2 měsíci +1

      How could I guess! I live here, I know we’ve got dope radio for sure, one of the best parts of BG! Maybe I’ll see ya at the Louisville show good buddy!

  • @john_dillermand
    @john_dillermand Před 2 měsíci +40

    When the sun hits will always be on my playlist.

  • @monalisamoshpit
    @monalisamoshpit Před 2 měsíci +59

    Slowdive documentaries always bring tears to my eyes. I am so thankful they are still with us today.

  • @ComaDave
    @ComaDave Před 2 měsíci +22

    "When the Sun hits" was my 2002 post-breakup sanctuary song.
    The thing helped keep me alive.

  • @caesarofcymatics
    @caesarofcymatics Před 2 měsíci +69

    PLEASE do a video on The Chameleons. They've had such a huge, yet unseen, output on modern music, particularly the post punk and shoegaze revival.

    • @fenncarr3774
      @fenncarr3774 Před 2 měsíci +6

      I love the chameleons so much. Just last year I wrote an oral about intrigue in Tangiers for literature

    • @carbonidsolo5479
      @carbonidsolo5479 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Please leave this gorgeous pearl in the dark where it belongs because thats what their music is about as well. Same with some others i don't want to mention of course ;)

    • @caesarofcymatics
      @caesarofcymatics Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@carbonidsolo5479 I think they deserved to be talked about, even just a small mention in a video would be nice, but I do somewhat agree aha

    • @louis143
      @louis143 Před 2 měsíci +4

      the chameleons were making dream pop music before it was even a thing (though the cocteau twins startet at about the same time i think) and nobody seems to talk about them! glad to see this comment

    • @louis143
      @louis143 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@carbonidsolo5479i think these bands would find it cool to be known by more people especially the younger generation.

  • @rosswitherington2852
    @rosswitherington2852 Před 2 měsíci +47

    I would love to see one of these about Post Rock. Slint was criminally under appreciated at the time Spiderland released. And it went on to inspire a good chunk of the post and math rock that followed it.

  • @hamburgerlover9825
    @hamburgerlover9825 Před 2 měsíci +26

    I fucking love Slowdive. They played one canadian show on their tour and it was on my birthday. 40 days is my favourite song of theirs and they played it as the encore. I'm autistic so live music can be pretty hard to enjoy sometimes. But it was absolutely magical. One of the best nights of my life.

    • @GigoloAunt
      @GigoloAunt Před dnem

      That sounds like a really special night. I know what you mean about live music and being autistic, it's super overwhelming. I'm seeing Dinosaur Jr on tuesday and they're so loud and there's gonna be so many people but I'm still super excited haha

  • @deepfocus888
    @deepfocus888 Před 2 měsíci +11

    I will NEVER tire of a “story of Slowdive” CZcams doc. You guys can release one of these a day and I’ll still watch it. 🤙

  • @thevector
    @thevector Před 2 měsíci +76

    "Positively indecent." (On making great music in their 50's.) One of the greatest music stories I have heard and Trash Theory was born to tell this one. Thank you!

  • @philp7012
    @philp7012 Před 2 měsíci +30

    This is the most incredible music channel on the Internet. I always learn something new and find new bands I've never heard of by proxy of the subject band. When the history of the music is explained I feel more connected to the generation that inspired it somehow. Wish I could've been there.

  • @Brosenbrose
    @Brosenbrose Před 2 měsíci +31

    Thank you for 30 minutes of chills all over my body on this Sunday. It would be amazing if you could do Cranes next!

    • @fiveleavesleft6521
      @fiveleavesleft6521 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Ha, i was just thinking exactly that! Cranes seem to be coming out of hibernation too.

  • @mterpstra
    @mterpstra Před 2 měsíci +14

    Catherine Wheel were contemporaries who didn’t neatly fit into the Shoegaze category as they grew. Of any group of that era, I’d love to see them reunite, but, given the lead singer has found great success in his passion for cars, I don’t have any hope it will happen. Thanks for all of your videos. Real fun to watch.

    • @ojdg7832
      @ojdg7832 Před 2 měsíci +2

      What an amazing band!

  • @markfrancombe
    @markfrancombe Před 2 měsíci +10

    Thanks for the great run-down of a fantastic band. You mentioned a tour with my band Cranes, just to say we actually toured twice with them, and every second was a fun enjoyable experience. It’s brilliant that they are doing so well now, and rightly so! And great to hear such a well formulated analysis of the toxic UK music press of the time. Everyone was terrified of what some idiot nerdy kids could do to their careers often as a joke or whim.

  • @marshalsea000
    @marshalsea000 Před 2 měsíci +26

    Best music documentaries around!
    Do one on Curve please!!!

  • @hdufort
    @hdufort Před 2 měsíci +10

    The live version of Golden Hair at Primavera and in the next big stages shows how much they were in control, full of energy and ready for a comeback. The famous "crying blue haired girl" video also shows that there was a younger generation ready to follow them anywhere they'd decide to go.

  • @db8658
    @db8658 Před 2 měsíci +25

    They weren't maligned like Slowdive, but I think Curve is the most underappreciated band from the era of shoegaze and dream pop. They were incredible.

    • @cris_261
      @cris_261 Před 2 měsíci +11

      As great as they were, Curve wasn't "radio friendly" enough. Garbage took Curve's sound, made it more accessible to the masses, and reaped the rewards. At the time, I considered Garbage to be the inferior band, and stuck with Curve. I did learn to like Garbage, but Curve will always be #1.

    • @twobyfour
      @twobyfour Před 2 měsíci +5

      Good shout. Criminally overlooked, then Shirley Manson and Courtney Love somehow became the torch bearers.

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@cris_261Oh, it’s worse than that - a few albums after Curve reformed, the NME reviewed their latest album (Gift, if memory serves). The NME only gave the album a 2 inch long review buried deep in the review section… and accused Curve of stealing Garbage’s sound! You really couldn’t are this stuff up. I actually remember staring at that review in disbelief!

    • @cris_261
      @cris_261 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @greva2904 That's utter madness. It's like NME was begging to be sued for slander. I recall reading somewhere that Curve didn't initially mind Garbage being compared to them, but after a while, it began to anger them. I liked Gift. It had several songs that could have been hits. Curve released one more album after Gift called The New Adventures of Curve, and then called it a day.

    • @fogschool5609
      @fogschool5609 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes, Curve were fantastic but not too dissimilar from Slowdive, in that they were totally slated from their first album onwards, after the praise of their first EPs.

  • @RuthlessMojo
    @RuthlessMojo Před 2 měsíci +20

    Would love to see you do Goldfrapp’s Felt Mountain in your new British canon series. Alison has such an amazing voice and Will’s orchestrations are so rich sonically. They really are a class act.

    • @1anwrang13r
      @1anwrang13r Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ooh, good choice. Goldfrapp has moved music on several times over.

    • @pierstheoneandonly
      @pierstheoneandonly Před 2 měsíci +2

      Hah! Middle-class act, for sure. Another establishment music-your-dad-would-like band who, like P'head, think laboured 60s cold-war film soundtrack cliches is well hip.

    • @peterdixon7975
      @peterdixon7975 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@pierstheoneandonly Oooohh! Punching up. Edgy.

    • @peterdixon7975
      @peterdixon7975 Před 2 měsíci

      @@pierstheoneandonly
      1. "Corporate-type bands who profess a socially-sound band-of-the-people credo!"
      You didn't make that point though.
      2."I know/knew a couple of the band [P'head], one of whose contributions to the band's whole sound were never acknowledged, in word or wages, by the head honchos."
      Or that one.
      You did make some vaguely classist / ageist dig at bands you don't like, I just made a snide comment in response.
      Cheers.

    • @pierstheoneandonly
      @pierstheoneandonly Před 2 měsíci

      @@peterdixon7975 My latter comment wasn't made to support any previous point. It was merely to give some further insight into the specious nature of a couple of purveyors of 'trip-hop' music.

  • @fiveleavesleft6521
    @fiveleavesleft6521 Před 2 měsíci +26

    I remember a radio interview with Halstead in which he picked his favourite songs (one was Plainsong by the Cure). He was asked "How do you want Slowdive to be remembered?". Answer "That we changed the face of rock and roll". Well Neil, you did.

  • @frazercaird5724
    @frazercaird5724 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I saw Slowdive a couple of times in the last year and the thing which stuck me - and its VERY unique - was that here was a band formed 30 odd years ago and the average age of the audience must've be about 25. I think this says everything.

  • @indieokee
    @indieokee Před 2 měsíci +14

    I'm from Brazil and had no idea about all that thing with the press... Slowdive has always been pretty much loved down here, by "alternative people", at least. Thanks for this! If you can, make one on Swervedriver, or Teenage Fanclub, love those bands =)

    • @haxio17
      @haxio17 Před 2 měsíci +1

      80s 90s is alt gen
      And before

    • @n.c.6378
      @n.c.6378 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Eu também não tinha noção dessa perseguição da imprensa britânica à banda. Não chegou a nós. Adoro o Slowdive.

  • @CupofCloud
    @CupofCloud Před 2 měsíci +10

    Slowdive (2017) is arguably one of the greatest comeback albums of all time. Effin gorgeous from start to finish

    • @fenncarr3774
      @fenncarr3774 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Honestly think it’s their best album. Sugar for the pill is one of my favourite songs ever

    • @MarkB-SnowyMtn
      @MarkB-SnowyMtn Před 2 měsíci +1

      I love Sugar for the Pill as well. I play in our church's worship band, and one of the worship songs we play seems to be inspired by the chords & guitar effects of Sugar for the Pill, but with the chord progression kind of reversed. I set up my guitar rig as close as I can get to what Neil is playing on that song. I even named my guitar patch: Classic Slowdive. I kind of play it in honor of Slowdive. :) The guitarist who plays it on the original live recording seems rather young, (I have been playing semi-professionally for 50 years), but he obviously is a shoegaze fan. I hear a lot of Slowdive/shoegaze influence in modern worship music.

  • @twangology
    @twangology Před 2 měsíci +12

    Great !!! this was so good thank you - massive Slowdive fan - 49 years old. It would be great to see an expose on the UK band "Curve" - they had a very distinct sound, and now with all EP reissues and albums "Doppelganger" and "Cuckoo" this year - would make for another great episode , wishfull thinking :)

    • @JamesBurrTV
      @JamesBurrTV Před 2 měsíci +4

      Loved Curve. They were another band who were NME darlings for about a year then they were dropped like a hot potato. Strangely, as "big" as they were (at least on the Indie scene), barely anyone mentions them now, despite quite a few new bands ripping them off.

    • @twangology
      @twangology Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@JamesBurrTV agree!

  • @atlanta2076
    @atlanta2076 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I had NO idea how much crap this fine band had to go through during their first iteration. It's almost unfathomable. Funnily, I listened to M83's We Own The Sky first before I came across Slowdive. And my all time favorite will always be "Sleep". The amount of emotion in this song is unmatched.

  • @remainsilent9696
    @remainsilent9696 Před 2 měsíci +3

    this is SUCH a beautiful documentative video. i cried at the very end and felt immersed in their (slowdive's) story. thank you SO very much for making this and continuing to perpetuate the beauty of this band and it's history

  • @Will-wx8kn
    @Will-wx8kn Před 2 měsíci +12

    The explanation of When the Sun Hits and its romantic irony was goosebump inducing

  • @jordangroff8978
    @jordangroff8978 Před 2 měsíci +10

    The only band that has made a true difference in my life, I'm thankful that I found them.

  • @_-Freeman-_
    @_-Freeman-_ Před 2 měsíci +9

    I totally missed Slowdive and ignored bands like My Bloody Valentine. Though familiar with some of it, I don't remember ever hearing of 'Shoegaze' back in the 90's. This is a whole new thing for me to explore in hopes of mitigating a little of that feeling I completely missed something that was right there with me in my 20's. And maybe, I'll be inspired...

  • @jonarmistead4839
    @jonarmistead4839 Před 2 měsíci +10

    I never stopped loving Slowdive. Souvlaki and Pygmallion are both brilliant albums. Saw them in Auckland last July. It was quite possibly the greatest gig I've ever seen.😊

    • @adriancurran3234
      @adriancurran3234 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah they were epic - sound stage was Massive it’s one of the best I’ve ever heard the sound mix in The Powerstation.

    • @MartinoftheHill
      @MartinoftheHill Před 2 měsíci +1

      That was the best gig I've been to in 10 years - always loved Slowdive. Surreal to see them in Auckland on the other side of the World and 30 years later from when I first heard them.

  • @bryanzzz748
    @bryanzzz748 Před 2 měsíci +19

    the fact at the end is really crazy to think about, that slowdive’s regrouping has now been longer than their initial stint in the 90s

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge Před 2 měsíci +10

    I was already pretty old when shoegaze came out in the '90s so I didn't discover any of this stuff till much later in the $1 CD clearance bins. I became a fan of all of it and am kind of glad I never heard any of the appalling hostility these guys got. Bless this bland and thank you for the dignified and touching tribute to them.

  • @markpalmer9844
    @markpalmer9844 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fantastic stuff. Of all your content this was the one that I wished had more of the songs. Thank you!!

  • @bobette00
    @bobette00 Před 2 měsíci +6

    To be a young art student again, romanticizing my angst along to Souvlaki! Thankfully, seeing them live recently was not only a nostalgic experience. They're still making excellent music. And for all the ongoing glorification of 90's bands, they're the only ones I never stopped listening to. Excellent vid; time for one on Spacemen 3!

  • @danafiorelli9799
    @danafiorelli9799 Před 2 měsíci +7

    When I first got together with my now Husband, SSS was always playing in our little studio apartment. We were young, we used hard drugs and that was the album you put on. Years later we both got clean and I rediscovered them via their new, I think self titled album. I listened, we aged, we got clean, they did the same. It was the most intense feeling of catharsis, like visiting with a dear old friend. I will forever love this band.

    • @rodrigoroa6753
      @rodrigoroa6753 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Slowdive was never a hard drugs band

    • @danafiorelli9799
      @danafiorelli9799 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@rodrigoroa6753 Oh my goodness, I Guess we interpreted the lyrics incorrectly! Hahaha, guessing all the, high, references were about pot. Well good for them! Ok, nix the, "they got clean" part. It was still incredibly moving to hear them again after all those years. A lovely, hazy memory of the happiest time in my life! I just love them.

    • @rodrigoroa6753
      @rodrigoroa6753 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@danafiorelli9799 right on, saw them live in 2018 and yes they are amazing, I would describe the experience as ethereal. Also kudos for leaving the hard stuff behind, I also had some issues with that and it's not a nice thing at all.

  • @shifty220
    @shifty220 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Been waiting for a slowdive video!

  • @jasongray797
    @jasongray797 Před 2 měsíci

    I SO appreciate what you do. I've been swimming in music since i was six (1976), but I almost never fail to find something new / be reminded of some music i forgot, because of the thoroughness of your analysis, and the way you cross-reference with other bands. I have to be in the right FOM, but I really admire your work. Thank You.

  • @browk2512
    @browk2512 Před 2 měsíci +7

    "We will always hate Slowdive more than we hate Adolf Hitler" is an insane quote!

    • @DylanPank71
      @DylanPank71 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Well, turned out Rickey Edwards was indeed a deeply unwell person.

    • @connorparsfield7456
      @connorparsfield7456 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I can sense the sarcasm from richey. It was trendy to hate on slowdive at the time

  • @pwaegemans
    @pwaegemans Před 2 měsíci +4

    I never realized there was such negativity around them! I was one of those that learned about them thanks to the brilliant tribute made by Morr Music in the early 2000s. But it wasn't until their 2017 album which dropped like a bomb that I got hooked! That album is one of the best albums in 2017 and when I start listening, I listen to whole thing. I'm glad to be able to see them twice this year in Belgium. Thanks for the great video once again Trash man!

  • @hishamhilal8332
    @hishamhilal8332 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This channel's work is really underrated. Rock on mate.

  • @WelkinStark
    @WelkinStark Před 2 měsíci +1

    A wonderful stroll through musical memory lane, featuring one of my most beloved bands ever! My gratitude runs deep for this.

  • @rempy9529
    @rempy9529 Před 2 měsíci +2

    been waiting for this one. i knew you’d do them justice!

  • @fishandchipdiaries
    @fishandchipdiaries Před 2 měsíci +9

    The sound they created live could transform any venue. You would forget where you were and be completely absorbed.

    • @fiveleavesleft6521
      @fiveleavesleft6521 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I once saw them in my city of Norwich, UK in midwinter. I walked 6 miles home through the ice and snow with my head in the stars.

  • @ThreadBomb
    @ThreadBomb Před 2 měsíci +5

    8:18 These lyrics for Celia's Dream are posted all over the internet, and they are INCORRECT. The actual lyric is "But she takes - She gives it all and fades"

  • @Dan-zr5em
    @Dan-zr5em Před 2 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed this, thanks for a fascinating mini doc.

  • @timhulsizer
    @timhulsizer Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love everything about this YT account. The band choices, the editing, the presentation...you've come a long way from that first 21 Jump Street video. Hope you continue for many years to come.

  • @thebizkid84
    @thebizkid84 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I’d say for an American Shoegaze band that didn’t get their due justice until recently is Drop Nineteens.

  • @Nick-yk4pq
    @Nick-yk4pq Před měsícem

    Love your videos, always happy to see a new upload

  • @benrous8430
    @benrous8430 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video. So glad that Slowdive are finally getting the love and appreciation that they always deserved.

  • @RobertFantinatto
    @RobertFantinatto Před 2 měsíci +3

    I loved Slowdive so much in the 90's, Alison still makes me get teary eyed when the first notes start to play. I was scared to listen to the 2017 release, put it off for months, but I was just blown away from the first track to the last. Long live Slowdive...always #1 in my heart.

  • @kassyh117
    @kassyh117 Před 2 měsíci +15

    I love shoegazing, and even if Lush is now my favorite band of this genre, Slowdive has a special place in my heart because it has been my introduction to this kind of music
    I remember my first listen, like a unreal fevered dream, it was insane
    I didn't know about all this mess with the british press
    What they did to these amazingly talented young musicians... it's heartbreaking and so unfair
    This comeback is a wonderful revenge !!

  • @seantobin4960
    @seantobin4960 Před 2 měsíci +1

    i love your videos. i always loved this band but was in Australia then Singapore and this was pre internet and i had limited access to press on the music that i loved. i had zero knowledge of most of this history behind the band. i had no idea how badly they had been treated. so sad. i love that the band managed to find ways to persist in different ways, in mojave 3 and their solo acts etc, and to eventually return. they are legends.

  • @meiji_apollo
    @meiji_apollo Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for your awesome work on this video!!!! 🎉

  • @subparnaturedocumentary
    @subparnaturedocumentary Před 2 měsíci +3

    i'm 42 and american and have in the past few years discovered shoe gaze and just absolutely love it i came across is basically learning to play form of pick style bass and things i can play bass and use pedals on, anyways i had no idea this band had this type of past because now they are well respected.

  • @burndownthedisco
    @burndownthedisco Před 2 měsíci +15

    been waiting for a slowdive vid!!!

  • @Supermunch2000
    @Supermunch2000 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I love this series so much, thanks for introducing me to such great music.

  • @jimhoulden9074
    @jimhoulden9074 Před 2 měsíci

    Really enjoyed that, thanks a lot for posting. Big Slowdive fan here.

  • @WobblyTeacup
    @WobblyTeacup Před 2 měsíci +4

    Seeing Slowdive this Thursday in Hong Kong - thanks for this!

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone422 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Back then I growing up in the Midwest US I discovered shoegaze after grunge had already blown up. For me the 2 co-existed together. Grunge for when I felt hyped and overly angsty and shoegaze for when I wanted to be more relaxed. Grunge was EVERYWHERE back then so a lot of local high school & college aged indie bands ended up sounding either like shoegaze or more like punk since everyone was tired of grunge by the mid 90s.
    My friends and I had mags like Maximum Rocknroll, Spin and Rolling Stone but no-one that I knew took any of them too seriously. MTV & local radio had more of an impact than any of them did. We would see what was on MTV, especially on shows like 120 Minutes. We had a local college radio station that was known as the "100 Watt Blow Torch" that played a massive variety of music. Along with a much larger commercial station, KFMH, that had a show on Sunday evenings called "Off The Beat n' Track" or OTBT that played stuff we generally couldn't hear anywhere else, at least until 1994 when the station changed owners and format to Country... 120 Minutes and OTBT both being on Sunday nights meant there was plenty to talk about with friends on Mondays which often times would continue on through each week until the next Sunday night.

  • @MellissaBoomeroftheNight
    @MellissaBoomeroftheNight Před 2 měsíci +2

    I have always said when my channel grows up it wants to be like this one (not talking about the one w this handle, so not promoting here). I'm just complimenting your work. Always amazing.

  • @SredniVashtar83
    @SredniVashtar83 Před 2 měsíci

    Loved Slowdive. Like many others you've made, I really enjoyed this. Thank you!

  • @theparalexview785
    @theparalexview785 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Here in the US, we were aware of the UK rock music press, but it had little or no influence on our scene or media. Back when "The Edge" FM radio format really did emphasize new music, alternative music, whatever, Slowdive got a lot of airplay despite the hypertrendy obsessions of NME. Same with Madchester and the rest from that era -- all got a lot of airplay in the US during that heyday. And, interestingly, Slowdive got a lot more airplay than My Bloody Valentine.

  • @vincentveasey9389
    @vincentveasey9389 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I went to see them down the Fleece Bristol 1990. Thought they were great! Massive sound. Bought the first record the next day. Still have it!

  • @areader2253
    @areader2253 Před 28 dny

    Thank you so much for this video!

  • @imperialjg7142
    @imperialjg7142 Před 2 měsíci

    another amazing episode. thank you.

  • @Steve_42_
    @Steve_42_ Před 2 měsíci +3

    I missed Slowdive the first time around, only getting into them in the late 90s after they had broken up. Listening to their music always made me so sad. I could never understand why they weren't more successful and rued that I'd never get to see them live.
    Then 2014 happened. It never ceases to make me happy that they're having a second go at it, getting critical and audience praise, and enjoying themselves doing it. If you had told me in 2013 that I'd seem them live 6 times in the decade that followed, I would have thought you were crazy. I hope they keep having fun and blessing us with new music for years to come.

  • @AndrewJamesHatcher
    @AndrewJamesHatcher Před 2 měsíci +6

    I don’t recall them being mentioned by name but I do remember shoegaze being a punchline in the press at the time and who can blame them, the triple whammy of grunge, britpop and rave made staring at your pedals in slow motion seem about as interesting as Berkshire. Of course I re-discovered them as an adult and liked what I heard!

  • @davidduxbury7530
    @davidduxbury7530 Před 2 měsíci

    Really informative and enjoyable!!Thank you!❤

  • @r.w.bottorff7735
    @r.w.bottorff7735 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great video! It's great to see shoegaze revitalizing modern genres.

  • @samborn7120
    @samborn7120 Před 2 měsíci +3

    This is my favorite of your vids! Brilliant! Thank you!
    A side note: James Bradfield of MSP has Slowdive, Lush and Cocteau Twins on his ITunes playlist according to a publicist friend of mine 😅 Oh the irony…
    Souvlaki remains one of my all time favorites.
    I think the timing of that record was wrong. It seemed to come out at a time when the “fad” had worn off. Here in the States, Shoegaze never really died like it did in Britain.
    Slowdive’s comeback is a godsend and their new material is absolutely stunning. ❤️😊

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 Před 2 měsíci +1

      It figures. Johnny Rotten wore that I Hate Pink Floyd t-shirt when he was in the Sex Pistols. He admitted years later that he’d been a massive Pink Floyd fan all along!

    • @davidwatkins4286
      @davidwatkins4286 Před 2 měsíci

      Manic Street Preachers are shite!

  • @ariescustom
    @ariescustom Před 2 měsíci +7

    About time you did one on Curve, probably the most underrated band of the 90s. Just ask Butch Vig 😉

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 Před 2 měsíci

      Curve, one of my all time favourite bands. And they had a similar experience with the UK music press - hyped up when their first eps were released, and the first album got favourable reviews. Then the NME and the other mags turned against them because - get this - before Curve, Dean Garcia had played bass guitar for the Eurythmics when they toured. And that little fact was all it took for the music mags to turn against the band. I wish I was making this up, but sadly I’m not.

    • @cris_261
      @cris_261 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@greva2904 I didn't know that. Wasn't the label Curve initially signed to owned by Dave Stewart (Anxious Records)?

    • @ariescustom
      @ariescustom Před 2 měsíci

      @@greva2904 Quite a weel-known fact, it was Dave Stewart who introduced Toni and Dean. Cuckoo also got very favourable reviews, as did Come Clean.

    • @SY-ok2dq
      @SY-ok2dq Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@greva2904 Curve I've heard of, Slowdive I had not until this video.
      But what was the issue with having done backing work for the Eurhythmics?

  • @pamelagaleano3620
    @pamelagaleano3620 Před 2 měsíci +1

    loved the video 💖 gave me chills cause I've seen them live a couple of months ago and still can't believe it

    • @haxio17
      @haxio17 Před 2 měsíci

      Wow and styled like our generation and culture
      Awkward

  • @mickredland6399
    @mickredland6399 Před 17 dny

    In depth and emotional - what a great story of a sublime band with a redemption arc straddling decades. The last 2 Slowdive albums have been beautiful and mature, suffused with longing and gorgeous swathes of sound and feels. Thanks fr this!

  • @TheHrb1234
    @TheHrb1234 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I miss Lush so much

  • @williampowell15
    @williampowell15 Před 2 měsíci +4

    My band supported them at university of Kent in 1990.

  • @DarkmanStudios
    @DarkmanStudios Před 2 měsíci

    I got teary eyed at the part when you started talking about the 2017 album
    Great documentary, thanks!

  • @AlexanderRobichaud
    @AlexanderRobichaud Před 2 měsíci

    Love your videos so much, thank you. I always learn so much. I have so much good music to listen to now 😊

  • @ThreadBomb
    @ThreadBomb Před 2 měsíci +6

    The backlash against Slowdive wasn't just a whim. Their first three EPs were amazing, and the subsequent album emphatically failed to live up to their potential. One critic called it "a major fucking letdown", and he was right. (The best song, "Catch the Breeze", was re-used from the Holding Our Breath EP.) Arguably, Slowdive never managed to regain their early consistency, even if they did manage the occasional great moment. But they were never "Britain's most hated indie band" - that honour was reserved for the Cranes.

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah, I think Slowdive have unexpectedly found their niche decades after they made their debut. When they originally appeared, everyone was bored to death of Shoegaze, and rightly or wrongly they sounded like just another bunch of wannabes. Wrong place, wrong time. Now they sound fairly unique as most of their Shoegaze contemporaries have been pretty much forgotten.

  • @acatnamedbeef
    @acatnamedbeef Před 2 měsíci +14

    Suede was also treated rather unfairly, I'd love a video on them

  • @PabloAfroSamurai
    @PabloAfroSamurai Před 2 měsíci

    I have friends that enjoy bands for every single video you guys do. I love them all. I'm sincerely thankful for the existence of this channel. I wish I could get richer and support everyone I wanted to on Patreon, or if I became some sort of influencer I'd be shouting out and boosting channels like Trash Theory and Alt Shift X. Love you guys, your vids brighten my month

  • @carsonhaught9934
    @carsonhaught9934 Před 2 měsíci +1

    We all still adore that band and have long forgotten those hacks... great video!

  • @TedDiabetes
    @TedDiabetes Před 2 měsíci +48

    "Music journalists love Elvis Costello and hate me because they look like Elvis Costello."
    - David Lee Roth -

    • @matthewcoombs3282
      @matthewcoombs3282 Před 2 měsíci +19

      Morrisey said most UK music journalists were frustrated musicians who used to bass players in failed bands.

    • @TedDiabetes
      @TedDiabetes Před 2 měsíci +10

      @matthewcoombs3282 most entirely lack any creativity, vision, or actual musical talent, and use music as a tool to further their own self-image. We call those people "posers."

    • @Barbaste
      @Barbaste Před 2 měsíci +5

      David always has the best quotes! I remember on Creem: things bands always say about 2nd album: this one is heavier than the 1st one, the 1st one was fucked up by the producer LOL

    • @TedDiabetes
      @TedDiabetes Před 2 měsíci

      @@Barbaste the Mark Twain of Rock and Roll. ❤️

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 Před 2 měsíci +3

      One NME journalist actually got to live the secret dream of all NME journalists - he was the lead singer of the band Gay Dad.
      They were really crap.

  • @VictorKibalchich
    @VictorKibalchich Před 2 měsíci +6

    They're very popular at the moment among my 16 year old daughter and her mates

  •  Před měsícem

    Spectacular! Thank you!

  • @Ardakapalasan
    @Ardakapalasan Před 2 měsíci

    Huge fan of your work, pure quality. I have learned a lot about many bands I love, and your backstories make me appreciate them even more.
    I don't recall you ever making a video about Talk Talk... please consider it!

  • @MarcelGomesPan
    @MarcelGomesPan Před 2 měsíci +3

    I love ”Kisses”!
    It is very ”transportive”.
    I know exactly who i think of and the place and cicumstances that are evoked.
    Music that actually move me!