not sure why 350z owners are upset. The 350 never lived up to its stats on paper and the SI has a tendency to punch above its weight class. Before I even clicked on the video this was kinda what I was already expecting.
Pretty close race! If both cars are FBO it really does show what these little 4 cylinder Hondas can do. If his shifts were faster and he had a better tune I think he could’ve passed him no issues
@Bryce Czirr Really it has to do with the heads. HR and a DE has the same displacement but different heads. A HR can pull on me easy. But DEs I pull on a lot. Different heads make the difference top end. Here the power to weight is the same so a 2.0 staying with a 3.5 on top end is understandable with the k20s head. That's where our power is made anyways. DEs are slow, but a HR is different cause of the heads.
I have both of these cars so I have an unbiased take. Both cars when stock - the 350z is quicker and faster no question. Obviously there are factors here like the 350 having an extra passenger, which weight makes a big difference. And the civic seems to have a good driver too.
350z weighs 600lbs+ and has a passenger, and didnt skip a beat. Makes 80 more hp, but considering the weight difference the honda should have out performed the z but didnt.
The Z probably had the DE motor with near 200k miles and just an exhaust maybe lol plus he had a passenger. I’m not surprised the civic kept up. Z’s are pretty quick for what they are but it takes more than full bolt ons and tune to keep up with a lightly modded HR 350Z or 370Z. Had a close friend of mine with a full bolt on, gutted 9th civic si with a tune and still get gapped by an HR 350z with just an intake and exhaust.
I own a 350z myself and tbh honda weight less and doesn't have passenger But the fact that the honda with just fbo could keep up with a 350 it's impressive
Relax that si is fbo e85 with no passenger and weighs 600lbs less against a DE 350z. THIS z stayed neck and neck, other Zs out there? Lol you swear bro
@@theironemald8779 no they are not but they sure are hella fun I own a g35 rev up and man these v6s are torquey asf. Powerband all the way until 4th gear. Can’t make much power with fbo but hella reliable na that can suprise some newer cars
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons oh yes for sure my buddy had a 350z fbo in corn it was damn crazy. Before all that tho he had fbo dyno tune on 91 then fbo si on e85. si always had the top end. But then they both have e85 350z was just different.
I own a 08 Si, and 04 srt-4 (just for experience reference) This race is literally accurate. 350z, DE (no HR engine) with a passenger, shifting about normal speed. Vs 8th gen si, no passengers, slightly quicker shifter. Results like this would happen again assuming variables are similiar. Better driver in the Z, the Z would have been ahead by a pinch. Remove passenger from Z, Z would pull away slightly. Si driver shifted as fast as Z driver, it may have fallen behind. All in all, specifically, the k20z3 is a real 4cylinder contender. And both DE and HR engines are great. With equal mods (I/H/E/tune) the results would usually end up with HR>DE>SI (Assuming no passengers, equal skilled drivers, roll starts, or digs with similar tires, and all cars are working functional as they should)
Everybody in the comments saying its a DE lmao it’s still a 6 cylinder vs a 4 banger and the z could barely keep up with all its mods. Y’all saying try a hr but why don’t y’all run a v6 accord?? If a 4 cyl can smack y’all now imagine what a 6 can do 😂😂 y’all stay hella mad just shit up and take an L
Damn really? Wow the K20 is special. I’ve driven a 250 hp v6 accord before and if a stock 8th gen Si can do this against a 350Z, I’ll likely sell or trade my 2010 Civix LX and buy the 8th gen Si. 😊
*The si and type R are for the corners they were built from. Factory for attacking and carving circuit track corners but as usual Americans they always take these cars and make them for the straight line it's sad really because circuit racing is where those cars really shine as for the fairlady z it looks like the commuter version sad*
At eachother's neck. If that Civic had an extra person like the 350z then it would had been a different story. Civics are very light cars. On the other hand that 350z owner should've known better than to race a light weight car with mild power like the SI with an extra person inside. 🤷♂️
K24 and k20 is about identical. I raced two different FBO 9th gen si with my FBO 8th gen and I beat them by half-car length. Only time I lost to them is when they upgrade to ported rbc or skunk 2 ultra with 1000 injectors on e85.
@@MsDejavue K24 has more torque and better low to mid range acceleration. The torque for the K20 is pretty much non existent but they seem to do well top end
Honda civics are light dude... u shoulda seen that coming, guys swatch with the hatches cus they want it lighter... but the truth is the 9th gen civic is the king of the streets, be lucky you didnt race a k24 it coulda been worse
Yo all my salty 350/370z owners here’s lil more salt for yall lol #kseriestheworld
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not sure why 350z owners are upset. The 350 never lived up to its stats on paper and the SI has a tendency to punch above its weight class. Before I even clicked on the video this was kinda what I was already expecting.
@@postalpancho 😂
For all my delusional SI boys out there. Here is a little taste of reality #failwheeldrive
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@@jpc1073 bra shut your ass up with that slow ass 10th gen si…. Race a real kswap honda…..
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons stock for stock Honda will lose every time
Pretty close race! If both cars are FBO it really does show what these little 4 cylinder Hondas can do. If his shifts were faster and he had a better tune I think he could’ve passed him no issues
That V-Tec kicked in 😈🔥
Love seeing Honda put the smack down.
CZcams finally recommended a fire video! Great race
Hell yea lol glad you like it. Watch my other video
Pretty sure I seen this on insta, good shit man🤟🏻
Probably from the tuner lol
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons yea it was haha, just went back & checked👌🏻
This such a good race
350z fans mad asf rn
Lawnmower owners making a party rn 🎊🥳🎉
@@k-a147 never cause it’s regular 😂😂
Hahaha😂😂😅
@@uzerfg2 lol you beat a slow car by a couple inches
@@nesbygalvan2088 relax bro u still ride a scooter
Can't beat our top end.
@Bryce Czirr Really it has to do with the heads. HR and a DE has the same displacement but different heads. A HR can pull on me easy. But DEs I pull on a lot. Different heads make the difference top end. Here the power to weight is the same so a 2.0 staying with a 3.5 on top end is understandable with the k20s head. That's where our power is made anyways. DEs are slow, but a HR is different cause of the heads.
Yes agree but the hr have a higher rev and easly beat the si the DE regular rpm cant do nothing but still a 2.0 vs 3.5 honda have good power
Our 8th gens still don’t come with the best flowing k20 head. We can always get a better head for better top end too
@@Matthew-yh3hh 8,200 stock redline what’s the 350z?
@@rackss5369 like 6500-7000 on the DE’s. They make good torque, but they lack top end power, especially since you can’t rev them out well
2.0 vs 3.5 esta heavy el honda tambien el piloto tira bien los cambio 💯
I have both of these cars so I have an unbiased take. Both cars when stock - the 350z is quicker and faster no question. Obviously there are factors here like the 350 having an extra passenger, which weight makes a big difference. And the civic seems to have a good driver too.
All I hear is excuses
So you’re saying the 1 person in weight was able to counter the additional 90 horsepower and extra 1.5 liters of displacement the Z has.
@@mrmiagi6052That’s half of what I said. I know the Z is much faster bud. I have both of these vehicles.
Wish we had a longer stretch here. Each time the 350z was starting to pull in his top end before he had to shift.
You could say the exact same for the civic, but he’s the one recording so you can’t see it lol, besides the fact that he was winning by a bumper
They always put the passenger on the heavier car. And it's a DE, and still managed to slightly pull
I just got an 8th gen and compared to my Z performance wise it’s very far off. Hopefully with some more mods & a tune I can make them equal!!
Header, intake, 3inch exhaust, pulley, j35 throttle body and Hondata. You should be able to keep up and maybe even beat those 350z hr on a 40 roll.
@@MsDejavue thank you bro, vids on the Si coming soon. She’s definitely coming along well!
@@ColdVsIce I have header intake and exhaust with Hondata and I keep up with the HR from 40 roll to 80 then they slowly creep away.
@@MsDejavue you aint keeping up with an HR😂
@@johnbarron2698 then you haven't done enough racing 😆
350z weighs 600lbs+ and has a passenger, and didnt skip a beat. Makes 80 more hp, but considering the weight difference the honda should have out performed the z but didnt.
civic si for affordable speeding
and z is better on track and taking corners
If that was a hr he would of won for sure as they rev a little higher with more power
The Z probably had the DE motor with near 200k miles and just an exhaust maybe lol plus he had a passenger. I’m not surprised the civic kept up. Z’s are pretty quick for what they are but it takes more than full bolt ons and tune to keep up with a lightly modded HR 350Z or 370Z. Had a close friend of mine with a full bolt on, gutted 9th civic si with a tune and still get gapped by an HR 350z with just an intake and exhaust.
Yea still a 2.0 vs a 3.5 at the end of the day though. However, i agree hr would def kill even fbo 8th gen si.
My 05 civic sedan easily beats these Zs
150hp difference, duhhhhh lmao
9th gen si k24 engine ain’t the best but I don’t doubt that other k engines would get gapped
No matter what you do with 2006+ civic, itll still be heavy.
I own a 350z myself and tbh honda weight less and doesn't have passenger
But the fact that the honda with just fbo could keep up with a 350 it's impressive
I can’t believe the 350z can’t beat the si 🥱🥱
Relax that si is fbo e85 with no passenger and weighs 600lbs less against a DE 350z. THIS z stayed neck and neck, other Zs out there? Lol you swear bro
Dammm that si fast asf
It’s gotta be tuned to beat a stock z doe lol
@@HatsuneM1ku01 the z had FBO, and so did the civic
Good race!
No way that 4 cylinder almost beat a V6. Nice job!
@Bryce Czirr How is fwd better than rwd roll racing?
You guys must not know your 350Z that Z was a D.E. if it was a HR that would have not happen by anymeans
@@91mr2sw still a v6
@@aoucelloutus3573 I guess but its not a HR Z so 🤷 and I have have the same car 🙃
Not almost. He did beat him lol
Tbh I like both I’m more of a Z fan but it’s a good run
That Z just running through all 6 gears meanwhile the Civic did like maybe 4 shifts.
I love the face of 350z owners when I gap them by about a bus in my Dc4 integra lol
Good run
good shit ! : )
What a race!
Honda is K20z3 with ported manifold vs a stoick 350z with 2 people in it...
Everyone salty meanwhile i daily an 08 fg2 hfp & got an fbo 370, couldnt be more happier
Honda wins lmaooo. Just alittle 4cylinder hahaa
In all honesty gs and zs not tthe fastest thing in the world
@@theironemald8779 no they are not but they sure are hella fun I own a g35 rev up and man these v6s are torquey asf. Powerband all the way until 4th gear. Can’t make much power with fbo but hella reliable na that can suprise some newer cars
the guy in the zee has a passenger ,if hes 200 pounds thats minus 20 hp plus the si has windows up the zee has both windows down big different
Clapped de boggin around
Civic did good against a stock DE. The Z might make more power but civic weighs less and is bolt on tuned
what done to the si? like actually FBO? with corn? I would expect it to beat the 350 tbh.. nice run tho!
If I knew how to power shift like I do now. it would’ve been different story.. but 350z are fast don’t sleep on them
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons oh yes for sure my buddy had a 350z fbo in corn it was damn crazy. Before all that tho he had fbo dyno tune on 91 then fbo si on e85. si always had the top end. But then they both have e85 350z was just different.
I own a 08 Si, and 04 srt-4 (just for experience reference)
This race is literally accurate.
350z, DE (no HR engine) with a passenger, shifting about normal speed.
Vs
8th gen si, no passengers, slightly quicker shifter.
Results like this would happen again assuming variables are similiar. Better driver in the Z, the Z would have been ahead by a pinch. Remove passenger from Z, Z would pull away slightly.
Si driver shifted as fast as Z driver, it may have fallen behind. All in all, specifically, the k20z3 is a real 4cylinder contender. And both DE and HR engines are great. With equal mods (I/H/E/tune) the results would usually end up with HR>DE>SI (Assuming no passengers, equal skilled drivers, roll starts, or digs with similar tires, and all cars are working functional as they should)
Absolutely 💯
Damn the lawn mowers gotten faster you needed to pass to 8th generation to beat 20 year old car thats the spirit xD
Ur trash
Driver mod is big deal, 350z had a passenger to
Everybody in the comments saying its a DE lmao it’s still a 6 cylinder vs a 4 banger and the z could barely keep up with all its mods. Y’all saying try a hr but why don’t y’all run a v6 accord?? If a 4 cyl can smack y’all now imagine what a 6 can do 😂😂 y’all stay hella mad just shit up and take an L
Lmao I got a video racing built J series can’t sleep on them!!!! I feel bad for any 370z racing one after what I see it can do!!!
No cappp brooo😂
😂😂
Damn really? Wow the K20 is special. I’ve driven a 250 hp v6 accord before and if a stock 8th gen Si can do this against a 350Z, I’ll likely sell or trade my 2010 Civix LX and buy the 8th gen Si. 😊
It’s really fun to drive since you can shift at 8200 rpms. Nice around corners too because of the lsd
Nah buy the 9th gen, k24 has more torque.
This civic is fbo e85 with no passenger. You swear this civic is "stock" wtf
what was the roll nd what gear u started in
2nd gear 30 roll
Hp rating isnt far off. 350Z heavy as shit and another passenger. FBO? I didnt even hear a exhaust. That shit stock
Vetc kick in
Vtec kicked in
Civic é vida
That’s a DE try that with a VHR
Watch my new video
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons Tbf it's a k swapped Insight, I would hope it would pull a little on a HR. Our chassis just isn't light enough
@@k20z3keith7 crazy thing about that insight it’s not even tune and motor got over 250k lol
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons Lmao 250k might as well be 25k with a K
$5K VS $40K
Dude idk my car had this much power
*The si and type R are for the corners they were built from. Factory for attacking and carving circuit track corners but as usual Americans they always take these cars and make them for the straight line it's sad really because circuit racing is where those cars really shine as for the fairlady z it looks like the commuter version sad*
K.
@@Ehren1337 xDDD
no way that Z was fbo
Reason why I say what I say it’s cause I can back it up, there’s enough footage on my channel to back it up, good kill tho
I race Few fbo HR on my new setup. the DE sucks but I still put in work on both. I got a video I’ll find it n post it later.
What phone holder do you use??
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@@GonzalezRoyalPythons thanks I appreciate it
The 350 z guy fucked and you can tell he did it's all in the driver sometimes he kicked back a gear and shift back
350z don’t know how to shift
Nah. Just how k series are but that chassis is heavy. 90s civic will do it easily with kswap.
Buen pase de show
At eachother's neck. If that Civic had an extra person like the 350z then it would had been a different story. Civics are very light cars. On the other hand that 350z owner should've known better than to race a light weight car with mild power like the SI with an extra person inside. 🤷♂️
All for fun bro it’s not that serious💀
If it was a k24 on that si the 350z be another slow car on the SI list.
It got k24 in it now. I was FBO stock k20z3 at the time
K24 and k20 is about identical. I raced two different FBO 9th gen si with my FBO 8th gen and I beat them by half-car length. Only time I lost to them is when they upgrade to ported rbc or skunk 2 ultra with 1000 injectors on e85.
@@MsDejavue K24 has more torque and better low to mid range acceleration. The torque for the K20 is pretty much non existent but they seem to do well top end
@@whyareyoureadingmyname5854 very identical. You can barely tell if you race both of them head on.
lmao ....thats hilarious hahahah
How much hp were you pushing?
230hp
Take out the passenger on the Z and rerun it....oh... I thought so lol. Would get gapped by an old ass engine burning oil DE 😂😂😂
Stock?
Fbo e85
Honda civics are light dude... u shoulda seen that coming, guys swatch with the hatches cus they want it lighter... but the truth is the 9th gen civic is the king of the streets, be lucky you didnt race a k24 it coulda been worse
Lol
9th gens are heavier than 8th gens. FBO 9th gens are barely decent.
8th gens are better than 9th gens especially because of the rbc intake manifold.
@@RevvedUpModz a Fbo and tune 9th gen will road kill a Fbo and tune 8th gen. Not much power difference. But torque is what makes the 9th gen better.
@@RevvedUpModz but if we’re talking which kseries is better we’ll it’ll be k24
learn to Power shift that Honda feller !! Haha good race though
Watch my other videos I learn after lol
What’s mods on si
@Ty Ty It's I/H/E +tune most probably. If it was forced induction that Z would be taken to gapplebees lmao
Sergio Aguirre lol I’ll gap you in my nismo stfu
Berner Porres z’s are fucking slow u wouldn’t gap someone in the shit
@Ty Ty turbo si go against evos.. 350z will be snacks for a turbo 8th gen
@@eternityvang7135 fa5 FBO tuned and I can beat Stock evo x by a nose
holy @#$&, i need an 8th gen.
Nah you need 90s civic.
@@Ehren1337 those can get smoke 2
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons what about k24a2 with bolt ons 90s civic? 👀 haha but nice you hang with that 350z. tuned or nah?
@@Ehren1337 watch my other video you’ll see what she does on the new setup
Against a DE lmao okay champ
Watch new video so u can be salty with all 350/370 owners😉😉
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons lmao dude both cars are slow af I’m just impressed that your impressed with beating a DE they are know to be slow LMAO
nice you beat a de
Wtf wrong with that 8th gen civic? My 8th gen puts bus lengths on hr 350z and nismo 370z. Sell that lawn mower
I told your mom I needed upgrades
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons funny, I heard your Hispanic girl loved the big black d
@@user-up3vx2hk1q I kicked her out.
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons tell me to stfu if you're a border hopper.
@@user-up3vx2hk1q STFU no one cares
Si stock?
Stock fbo on e85
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons dang we civic owners just made many enthusiasts mad!!!
@@GonzalezRoyalPythons I have a 07’ fg2
Hope u seen the Lexus ISF video. Lol
Vtec 😝😜
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DE
For y’all salty 350/370 owners
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LOL
What’s sad aF
Is that that 6 kept up w a 4 🤭
Or is it worse to say that 4 kept up with a 6 😏
Nothing here just a couple of rice burners ha