Put this on your Pedalboard! TC Electronic Plethora X3
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Me idiot! Apparently there is a tuner mode!!! The Plethora X5 was a great idea, but the X3 is an even greaterererer idea... smaller, lighter, cheaper... loaded with all the TC Toneprint pedals. What's not to like?
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1:36 Introduction
4:21 Pedal Overview
10:53 Settings
15:43 No Tuner
16:30 Sounds
18:10 no… NOW sounds
20:53 Guitar Pitch
21:37 More Sounds
33:00 MY2CENTS
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Hahahahahahaha. Now that’s funny.
Great video, as always. couple of things you didn’t cover that are worth pointing out.
As mentioned in another comment, it does have a tuner.
The hot knobs can be assigned to multiple parameters at once, across multiple effects.
With the TonePrint editor you can go crazy deep.
Adding a midi controller really blows it open as you can adjust the hotknobs via midi.
TC are constantly being asked for the ability to swap user created TonePrints. Hopefully one day that will come.
Humorous, informative, and beautiful playing. Well done.
15:40 There is a tuner mode by pushing the Tone Print selector for a couple of seconds
aaaahhhhhhhh
@@EytschPi42 😂
Right To Left rocks my World !! Well done, Henning !
Lovely "outside" playing on that loop bit Henning!
very cool video! my x3 arrives tomorrow :)
I have the 5 and got it cheap for a 2nd practice board - just started digging into what it can do more recently and using tone prints have been able to set up a variety of boards quite easily using their standard effects and artist tone prints - lot of value for money
Props for the Fifth Element reference! 😀
You can find Plethora X3 on Simon McBride's pedalboard on current Deep Purple tour.
I love this pedal. I use it in the loop of an EVH amp with a Boss noise gate and separate TC Ditto pedal. In front of the EVH, I use a Wampler Tumnus to color the clean channel. It makes the board nice and compact YET very flexible too. Thanks Henning, love your videos and 2 cents.
I had shrugged the Plethora X3...until you mentioned how easy it would be to use it with MIDI. Damn. Well done, and great job without using the manual! 😄 Tschüß!
Except it’s missing a lot of midi functions. I’ve been using it live for a year and I have a live hate relationship with it. Sounds are great although I feel like they are a shade behind the other dedicated pedals. My flashback x3 was lusher sounding with the same presets. As far as midi goes there is a audio gap when sending PC messages. So you need to arrange your banks with sounds you want to use together and have that be enough for a whole song. Also no midi clock so no off board tap tempo or beat sync. As far as controlling parameters you can control the hot knobs but nothing else. One last quirk. It can not receive PC messages and CC messages at the same time. So you need to send those separately or at least with a delay. I wish they would fix some of these simple issues as then it would be a stellar pedal
I have this and placed it into the effects loop of the Valeton GP200 and have the GP200 stereo out into 2 Katana 100's. It's absolutely insane and the ease of use is exactly that, simple and very user friendly. I went from an overcrowded pedal board to the Plethora X3, GP200 and a couple of drive pedals.
nice playing man.
Love the video and all the content you put out there for us guitar players :) can you do a video using this x3 with the hughes & ketner ampan classic please!!! Thanks! Greetings from Lima, Perú
that is awesome!! Want one
Tc Electronics is always exciting and at a reasonable price.
I'd better start believing in Santa!
this does the perfect stereo maker magic
This are the one , on my list.
Super pedals, soon will have more effect added , with it, space , black holes...
I really wish these could be used as Loop Switchers too. Kind of shocked that they can’t do that especially the x5 with all those switches!
Why oh why did they use the compromise of analog knobs which make the interior settings **jump** as soon as they are touched? It’s understandable when a pedal has no display, but this pedal has a huge display plainly showing what those settings are. But still we get analog knobs causing confusion. It should have free-spinning, unmarked rotary encoders that simply alter the settings wherever they happen to be.
The hot knob mapping follows the effect, not the position. You can set one hot knob to control a parameter on all effects so it would not make sense to swap functionality of a knob because you swap signal direction
I remember when we used to call form factor ‘size’.
Would be cool if you could use one of the in and output jack as an effect loop, if you use the board in mono. Don’t know if that can be done by a software update though.
Great review! Have the crossed knobs in right to left mode been fixed meanwhile?
I had the helix. Iam not into digital stuff. But this might be something for in the effectsloop.
Just wondering if you looked at how well it does drop-tuning when after a distortion in the chain? From what I have seen (heard?) the Brainwaves does drop-tuning very well, but with this we are a little restricted where it can go in the chain.
Nice demo Henning. Not too long. Not too short.
People have to go to each individual pedals demo if they want to learn more.
You could do a 1 hour video on each pedal so...
My guess is when you swap the pedal order, you go and update what you want the hot knobs to do in the same menus. An extra step of faffing, but its possible.
I wouldn't be surprised if you could assign multiple parameters to the same hot knob, in that case, switching order wouldn't make sense.
@@tennies You can indeed. 15 parameters per knob if you need to.
Well, Henning isn't sick anymore!
Whilst this will be a great pedalboard pedal, I would use it as a studio tool and make samples and loops with it. Also it would make a great synth/keyboard effect tool. For the money this is a no brainer. TC make great stuff too and at some resonable prices. An example: I used to have an Empress Tremolo but these days I have a TC Pipeline, best trem ive had for gigs etc, when I bought it its was £99. I use it all the time and it is up there with the best of them, and I LOVE tremolo.
This x3 are best, great
Hallo Henning, werde mir das Pedal wahrscheinlich holen. Weißt Du ob TC das Problemchen mit den nicht automatisch mit wechselnden Hotnobs beim Umdrehen der Effects Chain gelöst hat? Danke für deine tollen Videos - du bist immer meine Nummer 1 wenn ich neues Equipment recherchiere 💪Gruß aus Stuttgart
What brand of guitar is that Green guitar you use in the video, it's an awesome-looking guitar.
...second footswitch is main effect switch, used for mash or tap function..can be programed..
I am a big fan of your videos. Always great to see your honest and straight forward reviews. With this video it got me thinking... Maybe a weird question and not very common. But, would it be possible to use 2 different multi effect pedals on a pedalboard? I am using the NUX MG-30, unfortunately the X3 is great and I love the individual pedals from tc electronic.
I use the HX Stomp as the brains of my board, with “real” drive pedals and a Plethora X5 for additional modulation/time based effects.
Works great with midi to control it all
@@TheRisingoftheLights I guess I will give it a try. Currently I am using the NUX MG-30 with two additional pedals (Flanger and a Metal distortion). Will keep the MG-30 as my main effect board and put the X3 in line, like the two other pedals.
sure you can use two… why not?
@@EytschPi42 am bit confused what you are saying at 33:30...put things in between and so on
@@Wurstwasser46 on the X5 you have a moveable mono fx loop. You can insert drive pedals for instance at a point between the 5 tc fx. You can change that position per board as well.
Hello HP ... how good is the noise gate .. when I have e.g. an amp with a lot of gain ... ?
and thanks for this great review .. good job
watch separate reviews of the sentry noise gate
With the Plethora X3, do you find the Sub and Up's octaves to be a bit too dark? not cutting through enough?
How does the effects quality sound? Caribbean viewer here!!
How can i use the sentry noise gate and compressor if i have analog drives..if i want the sentry noise gate ang compressor to be before the analog drives?
Cool video, thanks for demoing this. Does lack of analog dry-thru affect the latency, feel, or tone?
I didn’t notice anything
@@EytschPi42 Thanks!
Caffeine + no reading manuals it's a good combo. Also...try saying Soothsayer and Plethora 5 times fast 🤣
GAS alert!!!
a pararmetric eq would have been a good addition as well...
Price per pedal w variations is outstanding. In the loop of my tube amp I would just rip 3 standard modulation pedals off the board for this one or better yet never buy the $trymons bc the band and the audience would never know the difference.
You can activate the tuner from product settings
When i turn off all effects on the pedal, I got no signal out to the amp. Have I turn something on, or of, so it always bypass when the knobs (effects) are not turn on. Hope someone can help me.
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@@EytschPi42 you didn’t put a link in this reply, but if you mean the link in the video description I clicked on that before I even posted my message!
There is no link to that shirt there
Thank you anyway, and seasons. Greetings to you and yours.
As ever - hilarious! Note to self: RTFM before making video :)
I wish they made a plethora x1
Who reads manuals?
Ok I do.
Very cool triple play.
I wish I read them. But I'm lazy as fuck and always in a hurry for playing directly.
The physical pedals can hold one Toneprint, but according to their website this can save "75 TonePrint Slots Per Effect". This is big.
I see that after compression it goes to modulation or time based pedals. What if you use many gain pedals like od, dist, fuzz? I like the compressor to be after the tuner, compress the clean into gain, then modulations and time. Maybe this board is not as handy for rock players.
Not to mention the Sentry which has a build in loop. How does this work here?
Could you add extermal pedal signals in between the 3 pedals of this?
(Edit: I have the Sentry and the Skysurfer and they are really great.)
Most ppl don't run compression on distorted or overdriven signals- unless they're playing through a solid-state amp. I used to do it when I played through a Peavey, and it made it sound better- but not on my tube amp. My tube amp adds a lot of compression all on its own and will not tolerate any compression in front of the amp. You can put it in the fx loop but even then, you can only use a little- otherwise you lose a bunch of volume, and it's so overly compressed it sounds really muffled and muddy.
@@stoneysdead689 I see. Maybe that's why the comp works for me right after the guitar. I just have and use a small Blackstar 15E Debut amp. It makes OD and dist pedals sound nice. Not so much on fuzz, I am new to guitars and it seems the most difficult effect to control and make it sound good.
Pedals in mini '! Pedals in multi '! Pedals in dual in one ! Pedals in anything .
I thought the Plethora x5 was going to mega-popular, but it wasn't. I think it's simply too big, which is why I think the x3 is going to be more popular. I guess some people expect a multi-effects pedal to have amp models and distortion, but I think it fits perfectly on a board where the basic tones are already set and all it needs are time, pitch, modulation and compression effects, plus an online library of tone prints. It should be a winner in my book, and I predict we'll start seeing it show up on pro boards soon. Of course, I've been wrong before. 😃🤘🏼🎸
Yea ppl slept on the x5
It’s so dope
The x5 is fitting well on my pedalboard with 3 drivepedals a Xotic compressor and a wah in front of it. It’s the best multi-effect I have in years in my pedalchain. Love it!
@@L5Nlcommunicatie-design That sounds like the perfect setup.
I been gassing for this big time since it dropped I thought about getting a line 6 m5 but fr I think this is what I want. Really tho if TC would drop an x1 if get it in a heartbeat tho. I got a decent amount of pedals I got 2 boards I run but I really want a catch all for effects I dont have. Mainly stereo digital effects
@@inakiiraeta707 not really want I want
@@inakiiraeta707 I wound up getting a boss gt1000 core
@@kyledege315 Fair enough. But since you mentioned "an x1 catch all for stereo digital effects" that's exactly it.
30:14 - G6! Du warst in Berkley! Oder habe die Dir nur maj7#5 Voicings gezeigt 😂
maul da
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I guess they left the Infinite out because then the value would be TOO good.
Wish the pedals could do parallel.
That would be sweet. Imagine parallel and overdrive stacking.
Does it keep the saved changes if you turn it off and on again?
yes
To deal with the software, I'd say a manual was necessary. There isn't one, yet. Vielen Dank.
Tried it. Was disappointed. Back to the shop. Bought Valalla Delay and übermod. I'm happy.
I have a few Toneprint pedals and sell all of them. Tjere is something off....that bothers me, like colouring your mai tone dry and wet tone too much
So it's like a Zoom 505 for grown ups?
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34:15 - just re-watching this, and you say that you can edit this with a phone?!
I can’t see how that’s possible are you sure that’s the case…? Thanks!
you can definitely load Toneprints on it with a phone
@@EytschPi42 cool!
So is that a case of holding the phone to the pickups and sending it through that? Or is it a Bluetooth thing or what?
@@theorc9098 great!
I’ll have to try that thank you
@@BeesWaxMinder no problem
Why would I get this instead of an HX Stomp?
HX Stomp has amp modeling. If you use the models, this is only effects. I actually own both, but mainly use my Stomp for Recording/Re-amping. Have the X3 on my Live rig board.
Can the hotknob order be chanced to?
Yes
You need Manuel to play the drums, while you fiddle with the knobs
The only reason these haven’t been selling/not as popular as they could be is because the midi implementation/auto save is terrible. I have one and the concept is great and it sounds good put they never intended it to be used in a pedalboard setup and it shows in the way it functions. It makes using it in any other way then stomp box mode very very difficult. If you make any changes say in a live context it saves over what you have and when you change between “boards” it doesn’t go to default state it goes to whichever pedals were on/off last making it useless for preset jumping without extensive midi messaging and delays.
Also the midi doesn’t detect clock. So the midi shouldn’t have been included or they should have implemented way better. Good pedals….not finished haha
All very true. This calls for a pretty potent midi controller if you really want to make it dance. The lack of midi clock as well has always pointed this to be a fairly simple use pedal. It has come a long way, but really needs finishing up.
This thing would be an amazing thing to buy except there are no drive pedals. I get their logic, but personally, it's hard not to spend more and get an HX Stomp instead. It will do almost everything this does well and much more. I wanted to get this because the interface is exactly what I want but if I'm replacing pedals, I'd like to replace them all. This isn't meant to bash TC but hope someone sees this complaint and decides to put some drive pedals in there even if they have to charge more. It doesn't make sense to buy this over a stomp unless money is a major obstacle. And if that's the case, I'd say there are other things to buy instead. I want to get this but it has limitations.
digital drives are still not fully there… so they did what can be done on a high level with digital, which is FX
The Plethora X3 is perfect for me. I already have my gain/EQ pedals and I like having those analog and standalone. I have a Walrus SLÄRP (Slö+ARP87) for optional ambient stuff at the end of my chain, and the Plethora fits perfectly in between for all my modulation needs! I can even make room by getting rid of my tuner, and I was planning on getting a Quintessence as well and Plethora ALSO has literally that built in. 😭🙌🏽 Can’t wait to pick one up!!
Hi all ! anyone used it in the loop of a 2 Chanel amp ?
Works fine
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soundwise it is not as good as the single pedals. I stay with the TC small pedals.
I have the X5. I don't get why they wouldn't put some distortion and fuzz in there. Compare with Zoom G6. A pro with a tech might pick the Plethora, but most can get any sound they can imagine out of the G6.
TC doesn’t do digital distortion
Seems to be $369 now. 😔
Reminds me of line 6 M9 or M13
smaller and better
Henning. I won't lie. The GAS is getting unbearable.
This pedal have cabsim
no
Yes there is
The X5 does, I assume this does too.
@@EytschPi42 just check it... read the manual and dont be a stubborn
Do you know where to find the manual?@@dennylibradomusica2408
Digital is fake. Analog is the real sound ! ^^ Thank you for the demo ! My NUX MG is a great example ! great sound, but kill the caracter/tone of my guitars. Become all the "same".
It's funny how I was really excited until I found out there's the compressor in there which doesn't make much sense n the fx loop (which is what I'd be using it for).
And I mentally hate commented myself right away: you don't have to use the dann comp, dummy. But it still feels like a downside. Maybe not putting it in would have made for a better product design. And maybe I'm still talking $h*t.
Yuck LCD display on a pedal.
Because it's not one pedal. Stuff has had screens for what now, 40 years?
@ Thats a great pedal if you keep it in a studio. Had too many "screens" fail in my experience in the last 40 years though. 😶
@@BigBlackTruckDave I've been on the road with lots of stuff with screens. Never broke one. Different experiences I guess.
@ I concur.
Dude, I like you. But no one says less with more words than you do. Every video you post literally could be cut in half.
I am sure you are right
The right to left, in to put model makes no sense at all. Language, mathematics, electronic signal flow all goes the other way.
where from the noise is ???????? so bad !
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