VERY WELL PUT. I love reading these kids and their talk of getting in shape for BUDs. The big guys might be up front in the first couple days, but its the guys who talk it one steep at a time that make it. The smaller guys, who dont think "quit". the bulking up comes after
i like that they select their weapons based upon durability and reliability.. not on hear say.. it seems as though the SEALS have a variety of weapons in their arsenal. not just m-4's and berreta's they look like they really go with what works and keep an open mind. for their load out/ kit gear etc... as well as a driving training philosophy such as drop ur ego and train train train.. make ur mistakes in training so u get better and better.
Violence is indiscriminate it doesn't single out wealthy or poor male or female.. tall or short it just happens world wide. so the better prepared you are to deal with violence when it finds you or someone you care about the better off you will be when it finds you.
one way to become mentally strong is go paintballing or airsofting and have the whole team against u and either do 1 shot kill or surrender type games, it puts u under pressure.
With that said, there is valuable information in this video. Some of these guys were Seals and they are still breathing; I would think that means something.
My first martial arts instructor (Ret Master Chief SPECWAR GRP1) was trained in Budo, BJJ, Arnis/Escrima, Butukukan, Dumog, and some other stuff). I didn't know that my Dad knew him until I mentioned his name.
As a former law enforcement officer I trained with Marcinko in breaching and CQB. These guys are NOT seals this is NOT DEVGRU (seal team 6) and yes they do make mistakes... but they do seem to have had some rather good training. Marcinko who designed the current seal breaching and cqb tactics may not be a laymans "hero" but is a helluva instructor!!!!
one thing i know about basic special forces training is when they enter a room, and clear it the rule says the weapon never crosses over your buddy, and each person has an area to clear so great video....but i doubt its navy seals unless they suck then maybe lol
@MareBellator You can't read what we do in a book or understand the similarities or differences unless you are in. Being an expert by proxy won't cut it head down to your local recruiter and sign an 18X contract or a SEAL contract. FYI Air Force Combat Controllers work for SOCOM units never by themselves they are always attached to a SOF element. But TACP's essentially the same thing without the extra schools can be assigned to anyone
@MareBellator So check it out kid I was an instructor at the USAJFKSWCS and was there when the SEAL's sent 10 officers to our SUT training. I saw as an instructor former SEAL's and Force Recon soldiers who came over to the Army SF that former Recon Marines were hands down all around better. The only time I saw a rock solid former SEAL was if he had spent time in 75th Ranger Regt. The SEAL L&O stated that the SEALs were woefully behind SF tactics wise.
@MareBellator So check it out kid 1st Force Recon was supposed to teach Phase 3 of buds during the development of the first SEAL's the Commandant stated he did not want his Marines tainted by the Navy SEAL's. The Army Special Forces were then tasked to train UDT's in ground tactics. There are still Army instructors teaching in BUD's. Rogue Warrior is mostly Marcinko blowing his horn of which half isn't true most of us today that do this stuff know this.
@MareBellator What ??? Tha SEALs were the UDT's that is why they were called UDT just like Jessie Ventura was a UDT but he was considered a SEAL since the SEAL's completely absorbed the UDT's. The SEAL's were formed from UDT and Frogmen in the 60's all that changed for them was the ground tactics. If you are talking about WW2 UDT then it was a combined Army Combat Engineer and USN venture.
@MareBellator You are wrong on many accounts Marcinko had alot of reason to exaggerate he had a book deal again my dad was a UDT during this time period. MARSOC is part of USSOCOM which is essentially the 6th branch of service and when at war SF, Rangers, AFSOC, SEAL's, PSYOP, CA and others belong to USSOCOM. Force Recon was ever bit the equal if not better than the SEAL's and IMO MARSOC is not as good as Force was as a whole but still an outstanding unit.
Mind you i am not suggesting either is "weaker" then the other or anything like that SEALs are very badass as ..and so is MARSOC...i just liken it to if you had a guy who never ran in his life..vs someone who did track both going to train for a marathon...the track guy has a higher chance to make it even if the training is the exact samething...since he is in already better shape and knows what to expect to a degree
Not taking anything away from either and, but do realize that MARSOC is going to be mostly infantry Marines and Recon trying out their training already is harder then navy bootcamp....Marine bootcamp in general is harder...so i would imagine the dropouts to be more equal then numbers would suggest....the Navy guys still have a hard boot, bu they prob come in alittle less prepared for the intensity that something like SEALs would bring then their Marine counterparts.
@MareBellator SEAL's have no outside influence ??? SEALs were formed based off the success of the US Army Special Forces and the Marine Raiders of WW2. Most of there training and influence came from outside the Naval community primarily the Army and Marines. Yes the Flotilla, SBS and others influenced the creation of SEAL's. DEVGRU was the maritime version of CAG which is modeled after DEVGRU-SBS and CAG is after 22nd SAS.
Good luck in the future but keep in mind that the guys who talk smack all the time and focus on preparing themselves physically rather then mentally ring the bell the first week. And lately if anyone fails out of BUD/S they don't get to reclassify into a new rate and end up going to the fleet undesignated (that means they don't have a job) and chip paint and clean toilets on ships. So choose carefully my friend.
@scottyworldwin I know what FM 23-10 says as well, but you can't always follow FMs to a tee. A narrow minded approach to tactics and strategy is no better than blatant disregard. Given the angle of his position relative to the window, it's possible that he can't get further back while maintaining his field of fire. It might be an empty room and he's using the edge of the window for support. He might even be there specifically to be detected, this is training after all. It's anyone's guess.
I meant to put extra *1* year. And you're right, usually they should get their trident with at least 1 1/2 years. But I have heard of some getting it a little later. some even a little earlier. BTW you make it seem like you know about spec ops aside from their basic information such as bud's and how long it take to become a seal. And their specialties etc.That stuff anybody can know a bit about but other than that you and me no nothing of their training or anything else unless you were spec ops.
@MareBellator Now having said that I have been around some SO's and Chiefs I would work with any day of the week. So here is the truth if a unit is part of SOCCOM it has been blessed off by SOCCOM standards as fully SOF capable or they would not be part of Special Operations COMmand. Special Missions is a whole other ballgame that belongs to a whole other mission tier. DEVGRU, CAG, RRD and a few other spook units belong to JSOC.
@MrPaPaYa86 these are FORMER navy SEALS training civilian law enforcement such as SWAT DEA and Border patrol. that is why you have the huge disclaimer in the beginning.
what happens if theres two bad guys with automatic weapons that wipe out your " highly elite" team as you do your routine room clear? they act as if shit will go to plan. makes more sense to me to have a versatile staggard stack that covers multiple points of the room for safety before you enter. one second wait time before you enter so you can clear targets if need be. for safety reasons. seems more logical to me. instead of barging in. you never know if youre expected and outgunned....
ryeable That is the obvious inherent risk that these guys choose to make. That's why they all trust each other and go through a rigorous selection process and years of training
@MareBellator I am a SF guy and am a historian my dad was a UDT turned SEAL. You might want to base your history off real BTDTs not Dick Marcinko who is so full of himself even those he served have called him out. Yes CAG came from the experience the founder had after training with the SAS. Maybe you should visit the museums and get taught by those who were there as well as those of us who are in.
You were mislead. With practice you can develop these skills. The shooting from cover also develops faster mental recognition, but you want to make sure your target recognition also develops as fast.
Hey Mega, Special forces are green berets. I think you meant to say Special ops. You just proved your own point. This video shows really out dated tactics...
By the kind of music they are playing throughout the video It makes me think this video was made in the 80's lol. Ehh it must have been on their first day out there for those feds. They didn't really seem to have their heart in it.
@MareBellator Nobody here posed as a soldier, you just don't know what is true and what isn't. This can be remedied by you going to recruiter and joining so you will really know and don't have to read books filled with bragging bravado and fluff. If you join you would see the difference between what books say and reality it is very easy go to a recruiter see if you qualify and then request a contract for SF in the 18X program or a SEAL contract.
if you want to show a navy seal video, you should not post something with a huge disclaimer saing "this does not represent in any manner politics, procedures and philosophy of navy seal"
@Fearlessmoto who cares just watch it and focous what they are training on. That is also training in itself to block out anything of an unpleasant nature...ha.
There is something wrong with you. If you think that the SAS hasn't made mistakes you're on drugs. If you think that they make SEALs look like amateurs then you're on very heavy drugs. If you think they make and well known spec ops team look like amateurs for that matter you're on super drugs. Let's talk about it if you disagree.
By your logic sir, would that not also make other units with a similar purpose or elite status with missions not known to the public well, the same? Meaning, their units as well would not "amount to dick" without the rest of the "machine."
The thing I don't like about this video is the fact that half these people do not even know how to hold a firearm for CQB. There is so much chicken-winging going on it isn't even funny. Its legit for out in the field where you shoot from prone, but in a CQB environment chicken-winging gets people killed.
To USNWO- IT'S ALSO A PENTAGON TERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAG is the Specialized Group of the Army SF. Just like DEVGRU!!!!!! Learn your stuff buddy. It's intergrated.
I am A firm believer that if your shot your not dead.. and if your dead you dont know it.... wow... that was a Brilliant Quote
VERY WELL PUT. I love reading these kids and their talk of getting in shape for BUDs. The big guys might be up front in the first couple days, but its the guys who talk it one steep at a time that make it. The smaller guys, who dont think "quit".
the bulking up comes after
I dont think I was born when this video was made...some epic hair cuts and mustaches though!
in case you guys didnt know, the US has two primary counter terrorist units, there's Delta Force and DEVGRU. DEVGRU was the old Seal Team 6.
i like that they select their weapons based upon durability and reliability.. not on hear say..
it seems as though the SEALS have a variety of weapons in their arsenal. not just m-4's and berreta's they look like they really go with what works and keep an open mind. for their load out/ kit gear etc... as well as a driving training philosophy such as drop ur ego and train train train.. make ur mistakes in training so u get better and better.
The 1st Force Recon is now Marine Special Operations Battalion.
There are two(One on the pacific coast and Two on The Atlantic coast).
love how in cs 1.6 they based playermoels off this era of NSW
I love 90s military equipment in general
Love all the people shitting on the SEALs. This video is clearly outdated and do you think they would really show you their tactics?
its still good practice and use of teamwork. who wouldn't want these skills?
Violence is indiscriminate it doesn't single out wealthy or poor male or female.. tall or short it just happens world wide. so the better prepared you are to deal with violence when it finds you or someone you care about the better off you will be when it finds you.
Nice use of the sage green flight suite. Cant beat that badass look.
one way to become mentally strong is go paintballing or airsofting and have the whole team against u and either do 1 shot kill or surrender type games, it puts u under pressure.
Some of that room clearing.... Hmmm.... The casio keyboard tracks are so 80's
With that said, there is valuable information in this video. Some of these guys were Seals and they are still breathing; I would think that means something.
MP5 Navy's, M727 Carbines, Green Flight suits.. & Moustaches - Retro Navy Seals.
I'm late to the party here - but Dave, one of the instructors from this video, runs training in San Diego.
That they are Chipg06, & together with our Allies in the US we will be triumphant against the enemies of freedom & Justice.
lol "im ganna come in here like, where are you? n im gana COME N GET CHA! lmaao
theres also cqc for close quarters combat
cqb for close quarters battles
and cqd for close quarters defense
My first martial arts instructor (Ret Master Chief SPECWAR GRP1) was trained in Budo, BJJ, Arnis/Escrima, Butukukan, Dumog, and some other stuff). I didn't know that my Dad knew him until I mentioned his name.
@theburgars Seal teams are the best of the best
@MegaTheBam thats right, you do what you have to to complete the mission. period.
i bet you all didnt know that this was the first pilot episode for the A team
God bless the US navy seals.. HOO YA!!
i know eh, like i kept on clicking ahead, and it just didnt wanna finish
As a former law enforcement officer I trained with Marcinko in breaching and CQB. These guys are NOT seals this is NOT DEVGRU (seal team 6) and yes they do make mistakes... but they do seem to have had some rather good training. Marcinko who designed the current seal breaching and cqb tactics may not be a laymans "hero" but is a helluva instructor!!!!
one thing i know about basic special forces training is when they enter a room, and clear it the rule says the weapon never crosses over your buddy, and each person has an area to clear so great video....but i doubt its navy seals unless they suck then maybe lol
@MareBellator You can't read what we do in a book or understand the similarities or differences unless you are in. Being an expert by proxy won't cut it head down to your local recruiter and sign an 18X contract or a SEAL contract. FYI Air Force Combat Controllers work for SOCOM units never by themselves they are always attached to a SOF element. But TACP's essentially the same thing without the extra schools can be assigned to anyone
@MareBellator So check it out kid I was an instructor at the USAJFKSWCS and was there when the SEAL's sent 10 officers to our SUT training. I saw as an instructor former SEAL's and Force Recon soldiers who came over to the Army SF that former Recon Marines were hands down all around better. The only time I saw a rock solid former SEAL was if he had spent time in 75th Ranger Regt. The SEAL L&O stated that the SEALs were woefully behind SF tactics wise.
YOUR RIGHT BRO!!
OMG, I feel like I am in a movie theater sitting through 15mins of previews. Starts at 1:25
NM- saw the whole thing... I attended his training in WA in 1992.
yep SEALs recon the beach and take out any blockades or barriers
2:22 you aint badass unless you got a badass mustache
Not how I expected SEAL training to be, but what the heck do I know.
@MareBellator So check it out kid 1st Force Recon was supposed to teach Phase 3 of buds during the development of the first SEAL's the Commandant stated he did not want his Marines tainted by the Navy SEAL's. The Army Special Forces were then tasked to train UDT's in ground tactics. There are still Army instructors teaching in BUD's. Rogue Warrior is mostly Marcinko blowing his horn of which half isn't true most of us today that do this stuff know this.
probably something similar to commandos close combat (developed for british and american soldiers during WW2)
ive been attacked by paper thank god I knew how to defend myself
@MareBellator What ??? Tha SEALs were the UDT's that is why they were called UDT just like Jessie Ventura was a UDT but he was considered a SEAL since the SEAL's completely absorbed the UDT's. The SEAL's were formed from UDT and Frogmen in the 60's all that changed for them was the ground tactics. If you are talking about WW2 UDT then it was a combined Army Combat Engineer and USN venture.
orduni90-"i wonder what kind of martial arts SEALS train in? "
basically its MMA or Mixed Martial Arts but with rules to kill not UFC rules obviously
those two units should be equal to one another in terms of eliteness. they also train and deploy together as well.
"Determined" does not equal "elite"
@MareBellator You are wrong on many accounts Marcinko had alot of reason to exaggerate he had a book deal again my dad was a UDT during this time period. MARSOC is part of USSOCOM which is essentially the 6th branch of service and when at war SF, Rangers, AFSOC, SEAL's, PSYOP, CA and others belong to USSOCOM. Force Recon was ever bit the equal if not better than the SEAL's and IMO MARSOC is not as good as Force was as a whole but still an outstanding unit.
CAG is the Pentagon term for Green Beret.
Mind you i am not suggesting either is "weaker" then the other or anything like that SEALs are very badass as ..and so is MARSOC...i just liken it to if you had a guy who never ran in his life..vs someone who did track both going to train for a marathon...the track guy has a higher chance to make it even if the training is the exact samething...since he is in already better shape and knows what to expect to a degree
Not taking anything away from either and, but do realize that MARSOC is going to be mostly infantry Marines and Recon trying out their training already is harder then navy bootcamp....Marine bootcamp in general is harder...so i would imagine the dropouts to be more equal then numbers would suggest....the Navy guys still have a hard boot, bu they prob come in alittle less prepared for the intensity that something like SEALs would bring then their Marine counterparts.
At 3:12 not many people notice Dave come out and steal a FBI dweeb. Use him as a human shield. Hell the guy's in the entry team didn't see it
Lovely video if I do say so myself.
3:16, this guy is teaching them CQB weapon tactics, and he has a massive chicken wing sticking out.
@scottyworldwin Its Ironic how some have the audasity to name highly skilled operators de-generate names. Good one Buddie!!!
@MareBellator SEAL's have no outside influence ???
SEALs were formed based off the success of the US Army Special Forces and the Marine Raiders of WW2. Most of there training and influence came from outside the Naval community primarily the Army and Marines. Yes the Flotilla, SBS and others influenced the creation of SEAL's. DEVGRU was the maritime version of CAG which is modeled after DEVGRU-SBS and CAG is after 22nd SAS.
Good luck in the future but keep in mind that the guys who talk smack all the time and focus on preparing themselves physically rather then mentally ring the bell the first week. And lately if anyone fails out of BUD/S they don't get to reclassify into a new rate and end up going to the fleet undesignated (that means they don't have a job) and chip paint and clean toilets on ships. So choose carefully my friend.
@scottyworldwin I know what FM 23-10 says as well, but you can't always follow FMs to a tee. A narrow minded approach to tactics and strategy is no better than blatant disregard. Given the angle of his position relative to the window, it's possible that he can't get further back while maintaining his field of fire. It might be an empty room and he's using the edge of the window for support. He might even be there specifically to be detected, this is training after all. It's anyone's guess.
I meant to put extra *1* year. And you're right, usually they should get their trident with at least 1 1/2 years. But I have heard of some getting it a little later. some even a little earlier. BTW you make it seem like you know about spec ops aside from their basic information such as bud's and how long it take to become a seal. And their specialties etc.That stuff anybody can know a bit about but other than that you and me no nothing of their training or anything else unless you were spec ops.
it stand for Combat Application Group, the official name of DELTA Force
Yes it does.
I'm used to saying GB, I made a little slip.
@MareBellator Now having said that I have been around some SO's and Chiefs I would work with any day of the week. So here is the truth if a unit is part of SOCCOM it has been blessed off by SOCCOM standards as fully SOF capable or they would not be part of Special Operations COMmand. Special Missions is a whole other ballgame that belongs to a whole other mission tier. DEVGRU, CAG, RRD and a few other spook units belong to JSOC.
This video looks like its from the 80's ateam series.
Navy SEALs were created during the Vietnam war, not WW2. You might be thinking of Army Rangers
the makers of this program are former SEALs.
Yeah I know.
I've got a family member who is CAG.
@MrPaPaYa86 these are FORMER navy SEALS training civilian law enforcement such as SWAT DEA and Border patrol. that is why you have the huge disclaimer in the beginning.
what happens if theres two bad guys with automatic weapons that wipe out your " highly elite" team as you do your routine room clear? they act as if shit will go to plan. makes more sense to me to have a versatile staggard stack that covers multiple points of the room for safety before you enter. one second wait time before you enter so you can clear targets if need be. for safety reasons. seems more logical to me. instead of barging in. you never know if youre expected and outgunned....
Like you know anything. Just shut your mouth and watch.
Nick aguado I guess that would make them badass fuckers to have the balls to do it then
ryeable That is the obvious inherent risk that these guys choose to make. That's why they all trust each other and go through a rigorous selection process and years of training
@MareBellator Thats OK kid one day you will mature one day and wise up to what you don't know which from some on here have read is alot.
And how do you know this? Years of duty in the Special Airsoft Service?
Hooyah is the Navy's thing...Hooah is Army
@MareBellator I am a SF guy and am a historian my dad was a UDT turned SEAL. You might want to base your history off real BTDTs not Dick Marcinko who is so full of himself even those he served have called him out. Yes CAG came from the experience the founder had after training with the SAS. Maybe you should visit the museums and get taught by those who were there as well as those of us who are in.
their official name changes about once or twice every couple years
2:18 the original lines for the movie taken
@2ndRaider so so true, '' provided they don't have their head up their azz of course'' roflmao!!
You were mislead. With practice you can develop these skills. The shooting from cover also develops faster mental recognition, but you want to make sure your target recognition also develops as fast.
it says at the beginning it does not represent navy seals
See! There you go.
@gladius187 they are not highly skilled if they are sitting in the window. that is the most simple rule
Hey Mega, Special forces are green berets. I think you meant to say Special ops. You just proved your own point. This video shows really out dated tactics...
This type of training provides that platform?
i was once attacked by a piece of paper.
i wonder what kind of martial arts SEALS train in?
i like taht guys gun at 2:08
agreed
By the kind of music they are playing throughout the video It makes me think this video was made in the 80's lol. Ehh it must have been on their first day out there for those feds. They didn't really seem to have their heart in it.
I have this dvd
@MareBellator Nobody here posed as a soldier, you just don't know what is true and what isn't. This can be remedied by you going to recruiter and joining so you will really know and don't have to read books filled with bragging bravado and fluff. If you join you would see the difference between what books say and reality it is very easy go to a recruiter see if you qualify and then request a contract for SF in the 18X program or a SEAL contract.
my whole family was taken by a piece of paper
if you want to show a navy seal video, you should not post something with a huge disclaimer saing "this does not represent in any manner politics, procedures and philosophy of navy seal"
Hopefully it's not the latter, because the BUD/s instructors will read him like a book and tear him to shreds.
@Fearlessmoto who cares just watch it and focous what they are training on. That is also training in itself to block out anything of an unpleasant nature...ha.
these guys just wish they were elite
3:33 at a shooting range you learn how to AIM, nothing to do with a combat situation at all and it's never touted as such.
I'll have you know the paper un my neighborhood is very violent and unpredictable, everybody should Learn how to effectively kill a piece of paper
There is something wrong with you. If you think that the SAS hasn't made mistakes you're on drugs. If you think that they make SEALs look like amateurs then you're on very heavy drugs. If you think they make and well known spec ops team look like amateurs for that matter you're on super drugs. Let's talk about it if you disagree.
By your logic sir, would that not also make other units with a similar purpose or elite status with missions not known to the public well, the same? Meaning, their units as well would not "amount to dick" without the rest of the "machine."
Why is everyone wearing flight suits and gloves??? and i agree i can't take it seriously with the music/hair cuts/comb-overs
SAS-British, Seals-US, Spetsnaz-Russian, whats DF though? Is that German special forces?
The thing I don't like about this video is the fact that half these people do not even know how to hold a firearm for CQB. There is so much chicken-winging going on it isn't even funny. Its legit for out in the field where you shoot from prone, but in a CQB environment chicken-winging gets people killed.
DMV or IRS?
They are only effective, if you have realistic firearms training.
That must be patstone.
Probably right or very early 2000s
To USNWO- IT'S ALSO A PENTAGON TERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAG is the Specialized Group of the Army SF.
Just like DEVGRU!!!!!! Learn your stuff buddy.
It's intergrated.
The chessiest cheese music that is from the moon. Not fitting for these pros, they must be into cheesy music