Say what you want about the endings, but the Tuchanka and Rannoch missions in ME3 were the best moments in the series. So much emotion, epic battles and great character moments.
@@briandavion How exactly was it all made irrelevant? I didn't play the game until after the Extended Cut was released and it seemed to wrap things up relatively well. I wouldn't say it was a good ending, but it wasn't the clusterfuck I heard so much about, so I assume everyone complains about the original ending.
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@@ididntdoit3924 I think most of the people's problem was/is, that any of your choices made along the story didn't matter at the end and YOU had to make the BIGGEST decision of all time. And this was fully against the idea and feels of the 3dh game. Please note that I didn't even know these masterpieces existed when the finale came out, I only stumbled upon it a few years back. Mass Effect become my favourite franchise (more like trilogy) since.
@ Just finished the whole trilogy 3 days ago, I appreciated the ending, but a friend told me that it wasn't supposed to be a choice at the ending. So yeah, I can understand why everybody got disappointed when ME3 came out. But the first game was cool, old, but cool. The second game was epic, and awesome. And I don't even have the words to tell how much I love the 3rd game. Now it's been 8 years, and cry against the ending won't change anything, so I appreciated it, it could've been better but the whole trilogy, especially the 2nd and the 3rd games is amazing. Mass Effect 2 isn't my favourite but it is just behind the 3rd, because the last one gave some feelings I never had in video games before, it was more emotional to me. (Sorry for my english :/ )
When Wreave is around instead of Wrex then you can trick him into believing you cured the genophage to secure both the Krogan and Salarian support (at the expense of Mordin, but "someone else would have gotten it wrong" anyway. If you do that with Wrex, he'll have a word with you on the citadel.
catbuffalo Urdnot Mordin. Named after great Salarian. Cannot see why. Salarians usually weak Pyjaks. No time to talk. Enemies ahead. Time to crush. That's the kind of dialogue i'd expect him to hear.
rPk0hu Because this Salarian in question gave his life to cure the genophage and save the Krogan people... Also, did I mention that Urdnot Mordin was going to be a female? W'rex actually says he was going to name one of his children after Mordin... "Probably one of the girls..."
weldonwin When Wrex says, "We'll name one of the kids after him, maybe a girl.", did anyone remember just how important the females are to krogan? For the leader of the krogan to name his first GIRL after him, that really means something.
1:04 "Enough..! You can stay here and let old wounds fester as Krogan have always done... or you can fight the enemy you were *born* to destroy--and win a new future for our children. I choose to fight. Who will join me?" One of my favorite scenes in the entire game series. In a handful of sentences, Eve delivers one of the most powerful speeches ever heard in a video game.
"Creator Zorah, do the Krogan have a future?" "Legion... the answer to your question... was "only if you let Wrex live and decide not to be a dick and sabotage stuff, bro" "I know, Tali. What a kick in the quad."
@@guicaldo7164 Wrex’s warlike brother Wreav steps into lead, and nothing about the Krogan changes. At that point you might as well sabotage the cure so that Wreav doesn’t exact his revenge in a repeat of history.
@@guicaldo7164 Wrex is the only main character who can bring the Krogan up without sending them to war once more, if you kill him on virmire his warmongering brother takes over, and if you destroy the cure then later on Wrex will come find you, and you end up killing him, after he retracts all Krogan support
I feel like everyone should do a Wrex-less playthrough at least once. It makes the Genophage dilemma feel like, well, an actual dilemma when one side isn't far more likeable than the other. There are legitimate fears of a resurgent Krogan Empire with the likes of Wreav in charge, and that's something that has to be balanced against the need for as much support as possible. Plus, the Mordin betrayal scene is phenomenal.
"I am the very model of a scientist salarian, I've studied species turian, asari, and batarian. I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because i am an expert (which i know is a tautology). My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a scientist salarian"
The Genophage plotline has got to be the best one in the game, all that build-up since talking to Wrex in the first game right up to Mordin sacrificing himself to cure the genophage.
@@BlueFusion2910 It's just pure evil to do this if you have Wrex and Eve who are setting the Krogan on the right path, maybe if Wreav is the leader then yes but otherwise it's basically continuing a genocide if you don't cure it.
The tuchanka mission in ME3 was probably my favorite. That part with the mother of all threshers jumping out and taking that reaper to the ground was awesome!
I agree! I love the mission because of this track, too. The first time I heard it play when Bakara stopped Wrex and Wreav from fighting, made her wonderful little speech, then asked, "Who's with me?", and Shep says "I am", I don't know. It just fit that scene so well. That mission is my absolute favorite, though. And the most touching. Many, many tears were shed all throughout it lol. When Wrex calls you his brother/sister, depending on which gender Shep you play, and Mordin's death. I cry everytime I see him die, but can't help but feel some happiness too. Only cause once Mordin cures the genophage, he looks very at peace, and I believe he feels like he's "atoned for his sins".
The plotlines for some of the missions in this game were awesome but they made the game too freakin serious and harder too. Also, there weren't enough side missions where you actually get to physically get off the normandy and do stuff. Also, you only face 3 enemies in the game - Reapers, Cerberus and Geth. I wish there could be more, like in the first and second games!
I could never kill Wrex, it's unfortunate that the only way to save mordin is to be a complete dick to the krogans. The sacrifice that hit me hardest was when Legion died to bring peace between Geth and Quarians. Tali: "Legion, the answer to your question... was yes" Legion: "I know Tali, but thank you... Keelah se'lai"
I Usually Help The Krogan But The Last Playthough I Just Did I Screwed Them Over And Shot Mordin In The Back , I Hated Doing It As I Love Mordin & Wrex ....
You can sit here and let old wounds fester as Krogan have always done. Or you can fight the enemy you were born to destroy. I choose to fight. Who will join me? Eve is the best.
Watching the Scene with wrex and eve after curing the genophage brings a proud tear to my eye. Makes me so happy to see the krogan filled with such hope.
I think this track is incredibly good at conveying the small hope that the Krogan have. It's somber, slow, and you can tell there's pain behind it, but there's perseverance, and beauty. This whole mission was beautifully done.
I did the same thing had Garrus as part of my main crew in all 3 games. Would have done it with Liara if she was in 2, but in the shadow broker dlc I always bring Garrus along. Liara and Garrus my best team in the galaxy.
I usually just picks whichever squadmates work the best for any given fight. With the exception of the final push, in which I used Garrus and Tali. There is something poetic about finishing the game with the only crewmates who followed you through ALL three games.
+Peter For me it was like this: ME1: Garrus and Wrex ME2: Garrus and Wrex (even though I would replace Wrex with Grunt sometimes.) ME3: Garrus and Wrex (and sometimes Javik.)
1. Start a super-evil Renegade playthrough. 2. Decide from the beginning you're gonna sabotage the genophage cure. 3. Wrex says "SHEPARD! MY FRIEND!" and gives you a monster hug in ME2. 4. Cry and hate yourself for even thinking of sabotaging the cure.
Lmao, happened to me recently when playing Legendary Edition. I never went full-on Renegade when I would play the Trilogy. However, I said "This time I do a Renegade Fem-Shep run, I will kill the Geth and sabotage the Genophage cure!" well, I didn't. Why? Because I couldn't bring myself to stab Wrex and Legion like that in the back lol. I still did a Renegade playthrough, but I didn't do those.
@@TheAnonymousIndividual I think that's how it is designed, you grow to appreciate the differences they show, and how they tolerate your views, thus enabling the very coexistence that the catalyst said could never happen due to it's experience.
The most impressive part of the ME3 was to find out how the Krogan were great before the Salarian lifted them to the stars (prematurely) They are potentially much more impressive than any other race, but war and mishandling made them forever primitive. We were staggered in the game-play, finding hieroglyphs and signs of intelligence and culture of once a great world.
@@agostinomazzocca1978 Negative friend. It is very clear that they were the Krogan's equivalent to ancient aliens much before. Even Mordin says ''it was like giving nuclear bombs to cavemen". The entire trilogy is about a lesser species abused by the fact they are physically proficient. Meaning, they do have a greatness behind violence, they were just not there yet.
@@cybergothika6906 yes they were "great". Yet they decided to destroy all their greatness in the name of rivalries and greed. Eve explains that they destroyed Tuchanka themselves and blames her fellow krogan for it. Then the salarian came and uplifted. The galaxy was not good to them, but after all the krogan weren't good to themselves in the first place
Again for the last time, what happened to Krogan was an abuse due the Rachni infestation. Higher species took primitive species with tech, it saved the day but also worsened their violent nature. Mordin attempts to cure them because he has generation remorse. If the story was real, lifting primitive species should be a severe scientific crime. Like Elon Musk trying to send a Tesla filled with bacteria to crash on Mars, and Nasa just said "no" you can't do that.
@@cybergothika6906 The krogan were a violent species even before the salarian upflited them. First the krogan bombed their own planet without thinking twice. Then after the uplift, they chose war again to get what they wanted from the galactic community. And finally, after all that, instead of taking the opportunity of a cure for the genophage to stop the blooshed, some of the clans still wanted revenge against the turian. For them it's never enough. Eve specifically said that to Shepard and remarked how krogan have always let violence guide their actions.
not true because even though there are three choices in the end the consequences have different effects than they would if you made previous choices. For instance if you had killed off the krogan, allowed other races to get fucked over (they wouldn't be in the earth fight when the relays were destroyed or rendered useless) and so on. There are countless things you aren't looking at.
CZcams Commenter Those are what we call sub-plots. They're meaningless in comparison to the overall plot ending in the way it did. In fact, it's rather funny that pre-patch they showed the Mass Relays blowing up, which would quite literally have wiped most of those races out anyway.
The destruciton of the relays not blowing up all those star systems actually makes sense. Still, I think the whole jump to Andromeda is a silent admission that the ending born of Casey Hudsons ego (luckily he "left" BW) ruined the Milky Way as a setting for post Reaper-War stories.
Mass Effect as a whole had fantastic music, but this song in particular, esp. starting at 1:05, gives me chills. The vocals are absolutely haunting. The triumphant yet sad tone of this song perfectly frames the situation it is for.
This still remains a prime example of moral dilemma. Yes, the krogans threatened the galaxy once, but... is it right to condemn so many to die unborn? What would you do if it was YOUR children? I'm glad I went with the cure.
+Luxai I chose the cure, but this is also the reason I chose the "Control" option at the end. That way if the Krogans get up to some shit I'll sick my reapers on them!
+Luxai it was an easy choice for me. i played through the trilogy from the very beginning, and i couldn't betray the krogan without betraying wrex, who was always one of my top 3 favorite characters in the game. to me, he was proof that the krogan did have a future. he was bold, intelligent, strong, and most important, honorable.
+Luxai Besides, the Krogan are a war asset that's undeniable in the fight against the reapers. They will die, yes, but at least they'll die on the battlefield where they wish to be instead by a bio weapon meant to control the population.
The Tuchanka missions made me feel glad i cured the genophage... but sad by the loss of morden and the constant idea that the reapers might destroy all the progress (NOTE: this was my first time playing)
i cant believe that it was 9 and a half years ago when i thought "damn, i still have to wait 2 and a half years for this game to come out" and that the wait of 2 and a half years was over 7 years ago. damn.
They were afraid, and thought the worst was to come if they actually cured the genophage, which was that they'll repopulate and rebel. Honestly, I can understand that. But when Wrex made that speech about how Shepard was a great friend of his, it makes you look like a douche if you actually sabotaged the cure.
"I MADE A MISTAKE! I made a mistake... focused on big picture, big picture made up of little pictures, too many variables! Can't hide behind statistics, can't ignore new data, my responsibility... not your decision, not your work, not your cure! Had to be me. Someone else might've gotten it wrong."
1:05 it also makes you go "What have I done?" when you sabotage even with wreav because bakara is alive. When I killed mordin, I sat there for a moment when the music hit me, just thinking "Did I do the right thing with Wreav? Do I really need that dumb Salarian Fleet for giving the krogan False hope?" The short answer is no it doesn't, even with a tyrant in charge, no race, no nation, despite stereotypes and beliefs should be reduced to a slow, sad, painful extinction after being given false hope by the savior of the galaxy. That is my interpretation of this music: Every race deserves a second chance, even with a tyrant in command.
@@Kai-tn4yx They didn't. And even though you could make the argument that with wreav in charge it would start a new rebelion (still not a genocide against all species), that is because wreav is an asshole, and not because he is Krogan. Wrex and basicly every Female Krogan prove that they are not doomed to be violent monsters. And judgin them based on the past or wreav alone is bullcrap
You have been a champion to the Krogan people, a freind of clan Urgnat and brother/sister to me. To every Krogan from this day forward, the name Shepard will mean Hero
The music is so freaking powerful... Free the Krogans and Eve's speech... Damn I was looking at the reapers and telling my : "We are all now united. You stand no chance. You are all going to suffer."
It really is a shame that so many people pissed on this game because of the ending. The rest of the game is amazing, it's just the ending that left something to be desired.
I know right,the journey is what matters & not necessarily the ending which in my opinion isn't that bad after all if you think about it,it could have been a whooooooolllllllllllllleeeeee lot worst
definitely, the ending wasn't great, but the game overall was really good with very well-written characters, and the Citadel DLC was absolutely incredible
It was literally an easy pick for game of the year until the last 10 minutes... This was my favourite game series ever, but I haven't been able to bring myself to play any of them since beating 3. It got the criticism it deserved.
They way I look at it, it's because people spend 70-100 hours in this franchise to get to the end of the road. But when they're there, all they get is a big hole in their hearts and tons of new questions instead of tying loose ends.
Andrés Pétur Axelsson You're completely right. For anyone who hasn't done so, you should watch the Indoctrination Theory Documentaries on the channel CleverNoob here on CZcams. For me, at least, those three videos gave me a lot of what I had expected from the ending. I'm a firm believer.
This song gives me chills everytime I listen to it, especially the vocals at 3:08.. It's a song so full of pain and sorrow and yet a certain strength that says "we endure, despite the pain and sorrow" or even "we persevere over the pain and sorrow". So good, so fitting.
Nope. I killed Wrex at Virmire, erased the data and convinced Mordin not to cure the genophage. I'm not about to hand the weakened galaxy to the krogan.
+Connor Wilson to be fair after this person stupidly killed Wrex he/she made the right decisions after based on the scenario. Helping restore the Krogan with only Wreav in charge ensures another Krogan rebellion.
right?? handing a galaxy already weakened by the reapers to a vicious and aggressive species that spawns in hundreds and lives for centuries? no thanks.
@Solaxe I was about to post a similar comment. All that effort, all the bloodshed, tension and emotion that went into this struggle, the scene and the music to compliment it - all means shit because of the ending.
Pablo Zeta well they can bring him back as a memory rather than in physical form you know through codex and such , having certain places where was some of his biggest moments or say they can add Akuze and mention him there
That's what pisses me off so much about this fanbase, that I've recently assigned myself to. Man 1: "Oh dear, the last page of the book is stained with non-sensical gibberish, ALL IS LOST!" Man 2: "What about all the other 400 hundred pages of epicness that you read? Those still exist, right?" Man 1: "Don't be ridiculous, this one page has cursed all the others that came before it because I said so! And now it must go to hell and there is shall burn in the unholy fires of Satan for all of eternity!!"
+Andrés Pétur Axelsson (Adventure Man) Don't forget that that stain was on the borders of the page, covering maybe a few words. But overall, the page is intact and serves its purpose.
Mass effect 3 alone made me realise when I was young that most things deserve a change at life and if you give them hope they become something better hope is Stonger then anyone realises hope is only strong enough to those who are willing to give up anger and to give up hate so that future generations can live on with that hope and with that they can accomplish anything but never ever let go of that hope carry it with pride carry it like armor and carry that like it means something to you
The last Tuchanka mission is THE defining epic game moment. It's almost too hard to put into words. You feel the plight and desperation of the krogan, their frail hope, their eagerness to change. Nobody else gives a damn about them, only Shepard believes in them. All of this builds to a fever pitch in the mission, the urgency and push to release the cure. The mission end is so damn satisfying I jumped out of the chair and yelled "Fuck yeah!". What an awesome game.
Eve's rallying cry and the epic rolling out in a convoy of Trucks were one of (if not) the best scenes in the game. I was grinding my teeth for the battle to come.
This is such a beautiful piece, not only as the theme it represents, but even as a standalone piece. The strings and vocals are incredibly powerful, executed in such a beautiful manner. Even thinking in relation to what this song represents, it's just pure gold. I could not imagine a better song for what this stands for. A great many kudos to the many composers of the Mass Effect 3 soundtrack. Definitely my favourite of all three.
Say what you want about the endings, but the Tuchanka and Rannoch missions in ME3 were the best moments in the series. So much emotion, epic battles and great character moments.
I think a huge part for the dissappiontment at the end of ME3 was the feeling that this was all made irrelevant.
@@briandavion How exactly was it all made irrelevant? I didn't play the game until after the Extended Cut was released and it seemed to wrap things up relatively well. I wouldn't say it was a good ending, but it wasn't the clusterfuck I heard so much about, so I assume everyone complains about the original ending.
@@ididntdoit3924 I think most of the people's problem was/is, that any of your choices made along the story didn't matter at the end and YOU had to make the BIGGEST decision of all time. And this was fully against the idea and feels of the 3dh game.
Please note that I didn't even know these masterpieces existed when the finale came out, I only stumbled upon it a few years back.
Mass Effect become my favourite franchise (more like trilogy) since.
@ Just finished the whole trilogy 3 days ago, I appreciated the ending, but a friend told me that it wasn't supposed to be a choice at the ending. So yeah, I can understand why everybody got disappointed when ME3 came out.
But the first game was cool, old, but cool. The second game was epic, and awesome. And I don't even have the words to tell how much I love the 3rd game. Now it's been 8 years, and cry against the ending won't change anything, so I appreciated it, it could've been better but the whole trilogy, especially the 2nd and the 3rd games is amazing. Mass Effect 2 isn't my favourite but it is just behind the 3rd, because the last one gave some feelings I never had in video games before, it was more emotional to me. (Sorry for my english :/ )
Don't forget Thessia.
"after this day, the name Shepard will mean HERO"
When Wreave is around instead of Wrex then you can trick him into believing you cured the genophage to secure both the Krogan and Salarian support (at the expense of Mordin, but "someone else would have gotten it wrong" anyway. If you do that with Wrex, he'll have a word with you on the citadel.
Yeah because you risk of repeating history with Wreav
And Mordin will be a girls name
Sadly my canon has Overlord Wrev alone and a shot in the back Mordin. So the name Shepard is more likely to go down as death
Now let's go show them why!
In the next Mass Effect game, I fully expect one of the player's companions to be a Krogan named Urdnot Mordin
He'll crack open your skull and delightfully ingest your brain matter. Not too often though, could effect evolution of galaxy.
catbuffalo Urdnot Mordin. Named after great Salarian. Cannot see why. Salarians usually weak Pyjaks. No time to talk. Enemies ahead. Time to crush.
That's the kind of dialogue i'd expect him to hear.
rPk0hu
Because this Salarian in question gave his life to cure the genophage and save the Krogan people... Also, did I mention that Urdnot Mordin was going to be a female? W'rex actually says he was going to name one of his children after Mordin... "Probably one of the girls..."
or Chuck Urdnorris
weldonwin When Wrex says, "We'll name one of the kids after him, maybe a girl.", did anyone remember just how important the females are to krogan? For the leader of the krogan to name his first GIRL after him, that really means something.
Shepard: "There's a Reaper in my way, Wrex!"
Wrex: "I know. You get all the fun."
One of the funniest exchanges in the game lol
1:04
"Enough..! You can stay here and let old wounds fester as Krogan have always done... or you can fight the enemy you were *born* to destroy--and win a new future for our children. I choose to fight. Who will join me?"
One of my favorite scenes in the entire game series. In a handful of sentences, Eve delivers one of the most powerful speeches ever heard in a video game.
absolutely
I will, and so do you rest
No hold your heads high like true Krogan. Theres a Reaper that needs killing!
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had to be me..somebody else might have gotten it wrong...
;_;
Would have liked to run tests on the seashells
Ouch... that was right to the feels.
*cries
I cry everytime I play that part. Is a really big punch right into the feels
"Creator Zorah, do the Krogan have a future?"
"Legion... the answer to your question... was "only if you let Wrex live and decide not to be a dick and sabotage stuff, bro"
"I know, Tali. What a kick in the quad."
+Max Pinto Why do you have to let Wrex live? What happens if you don´t? Not that I want to kill him; but I just wonder what it would be.
***** Oooh right... glad I saved Wrex on Virmire, both times.
@@guicaldo7164 Wrex’s warlike brother Wreav steps into lead, and nothing about the Krogan changes. At that point you might as well sabotage the cure so that Wreav doesn’t exact his revenge in a repeat of history.
@@guicaldo7164 Wrex is the only main character who can bring the Krogan up without sending them to war once more, if you kill him on virmire his warmongering brother takes over, and if you destroy the cure then later on Wrex will come find you, and you end up killing him, after he retracts all Krogan support
I feel like everyone should do a Wrex-less playthrough at least once. It makes the Genophage dilemma feel like, well, an actual dilemma when one side isn't far more likeable than the other. There are legitimate fears of a resurgent Krogan Empire with the likes of Wreav in charge, and that's something that has to be balanced against the need for as much support as possible. Plus, the Mordin betrayal scene is phenomenal.
"I'm Urdnot Shepard, and this... Is my favorite noodle shop on the citadel."
Heh. Heh. Heh
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It’s ... a little spicy.
"I'm Urdnot Shepard, and I should go"
I'm urdnot Shepard and I took the car because I assumed C sec didn't want it
"I am the very model of a scientist salarian, I've studied species turian, asari, and batarian.
I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because i am an expert (which i know is a tautology).
My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a scientist salarian"
*clears throat*
Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
John legend?
Them boom…
The Genophage plotline has got to be the best one in the game, all that build-up since talking to Wrex in the first game right up to Mordin sacrificing himself to cure the genophage.
The Geth/Quarian rivalry then the war was great too, but I agree, curing the genophage was just insanely amazing.
I sabotage the cure
every fucking time
even my most paragon female Shepard's don't trust krogan as far as they can throw them
@@BlueFusion2910 It's just pure evil to do this if you have Wrex and Eve who are setting the Krogan on the right path, maybe if Wreav is the leader then yes but otherwise it's basically continuing a genocide if you don't cure it.
@@Glorfendal Don't care, hate krogans, they are a potential liability and danger to humans
@@BlueFusion2910 Bruh you sounding like the Illusive Man...
R.I.P Mordin
Samurai Kai Had to be him, some one else might have gotten it wrong.
Though he would have liked to run tests on the seashells.
DonVisric He's... was, the very model of a scientist salarian.
***** As would I...
Billy...
The tuchanka mission in ME3 was probably my favorite. That part with the mother of all threshers jumping out and taking that reaper to the ground was awesome!
this one and Rannoch were my favorite missions (I might be biased for the Rannoch one for....reasons)
Middlefingerstudios1 Tali is the only reason you need.
Gladix yeah that really is the reason why, and ending the quarian geth war by making peace was pretty awesome
I agree! I love the mission because of this track, too. The first time I heard it play when Bakara stopped Wrex and Wreav from fighting, made her wonderful little speech, then asked, "Who's with me?", and Shep says "I am", I don't know. It just fit that scene so well. That mission is my absolute favorite, though. And the most touching. Many, many tears were shed all throughout it lol. When Wrex calls you his brother/sister, depending on which gender Shep you play, and Mordin's death. I cry everytime I see him die, but can't help but feel some happiness too. Only cause once Mordin cures the genophage, he looks very at peace, and I believe he feels like he's "atoned for his sins".
The plotlines for some of the missions in this game were awesome but they made the game too freakin serious and harder too. Also, there weren't enough side missions where you actually get to physically get off the normandy and do stuff. Also, you only face 3 enemies in the game - Reapers, Cerberus and Geth. I wish there could be more, like in the first and second games!
i bet alot of the krogan will name their sons "shepard". how cool would it be to run into a krogan in the next mass effect named shepard?
Or all races, except for one. Human. Though it could be ironically possible. Like bringing one back from the dead.
+Marty Walsh True that XD Ohh these comments doh
Unlikely :(
Wouldn’t geth call them Shepard-kommander
how do you feel about andromeda? xD
Shepard.
Wrex.
Shepard
Grunt
SHEPARUDD!!!
Shepard shepard Shepard
I'm glad I saved wrex in the first game
I could never kill Wrex, it's unfortunate that the only way to save mordin is to be a complete dick to the krogans.
The sacrifice that hit me hardest was when Legion died to bring peace between Geth and Quarians.
Tali: "Legion, the answer to your question... was yes"
Legion: "I know Tali, but thank you... Keelah se'lai"
I Usually Help The Krogan But The Last Playthough I Just Did I Screwed Them Over And Shot Mordin In The
Back , I Hated Doing It As I Love Mordin & Wrex ....
You can sit here and let old wounds fester as Krogan have always done. Or you can fight the enemy you were born to destroy. I choose to fight. Who will join me?
Eve is the best.
BlueMiyuScouterCosplayer
i am
And so will I. Now hold your heads high like true Krogan. There's a reaper that needs killing!!
Watching the Scene with wrex and eve after curing the genophage brings a proud tear to my eye. Makes me so happy to see the krogan filled with such hope.
It's just a game, but it's so fucking amazing and bring me to cry everytime D:
I think this track is incredibly good at conveying the small hope that the Krogan have. It's somber, slow, and you can tell there's pain behind it, but there's perseverance, and beauty. This whole mission was beautifully done.
Wrex: "Shepard."
Shepard: "Wrex."
Wrex: "Thanks for the cure."
Shepard: "No prob."
squadmates:
me1: garrus and wrex
me2: garrus and samara
me3: garrus and liara
gotta love garrus
I did the same thing had Garrus as part of my main crew in all 3 games. Would have done it with Liara if she was in 2, but in the shadow broker dlc I always bring Garrus along. Liara and Garrus my best team in the galaxy.
I usually just picks whichever squadmates work the best for any given fight. With the exception of the final push, in which I used Garrus and Tali. There is something poetic about finishing the game with the only crewmates who followed you through ALL three games.
Mass Effect? More like Adventures with Garrus and company.
Amen to that.
+Peter For me it was like this:
ME1: Garrus and Wrex
ME2: Garrus and Wrex (even though I would replace Wrex with Grunt sometimes.)
ME3: Garrus and Wrex (and sometimes Javik.)
1. Start a super-evil Renegade playthrough.
2. Decide from the beginning you're gonna sabotage the genophage cure.
3. Wrex says "SHEPARD! MY FRIEND!" and gives you a monster hug in ME2.
4. Cry and hate yourself for even thinking of sabotaging the cure.
Lmao, happened to me recently when playing Legendary Edition. I never went full-on Renegade when I would play the Trilogy. However, I said "This time I do a Renegade Fem-Shep run, I will kill the Geth and sabotage the Genophage cure!" well, I didn't. Why? Because I couldn't bring myself to stab Wrex and Legion like that in the back lol. I still did a Renegade playthrough, but I didn't do those.
@@TheAnonymousIndividual I think that's how it is designed, you grow to appreciate the differences they show, and how they tolerate your views, thus enabling the very coexistence that the catalyst said could never happen due to it's experience.
The most impressive part of the ME3 was to find out how the Krogan were great before the Salarian lifted them to the stars (prematurely) They are potentially much more impressive than any other race, but war and mishandling made them forever primitive. We were staggered in the game-play, finding hieroglyphs and signs of intelligence and culture of once a great world.
Actually not. The krogan destroyed their world with nuclear weapons before the salarian uplifted them
@@agostinomazzocca1978 Negative friend. It is very clear that they were the Krogan's equivalent to ancient aliens much before. Even Mordin says ''it was like giving nuclear bombs to cavemen". The entire trilogy is about a lesser species abused by the fact they are physically proficient. Meaning, they do have a greatness behind violence, they were just not there yet.
@@cybergothika6906 yes they were "great". Yet they decided to destroy all their greatness in the name of rivalries and greed. Eve explains that they destroyed Tuchanka themselves and blames her fellow krogan for it. Then the salarian came and uplifted. The galaxy was not good to them, but after all the krogan weren't good to themselves in the first place
Again for the last time, what happened to Krogan was an abuse due the Rachni infestation. Higher species took primitive species with tech, it saved the day but also worsened their violent nature. Mordin attempts to cure them because he has generation remorse. If the story was real, lifting primitive species should be a severe scientific crime. Like Elon Musk trying to send a Tesla filled with bacteria to crash on Mars, and Nasa just said "no" you can't do that.
@@cybergothika6906 The krogan were a violent species even before the salarian upflited them.
First the krogan bombed their own planet without thinking twice.
Then after the uplift, they chose war again to get what they wanted from the galactic community.
And finally, after all that, instead of taking the opportunity of a cure for the genophage to stop the blooshed, some of the clans still wanted revenge against the turian. For them it's never enough.
Eve specifically said that to Shepard and remarked how krogan have always let violence guide their actions.
The ending aside, the entire trilogy is a masterpiece. I hope Andromeda lives up to the calibre I've come to expect from a Mass Effect title.
Indeed.Good Words my Friend :)
What the hell is wrong with the ending? How would you ended the series? There was no way it could have an clear answers at the end!
not true because even though there are three choices in the end the consequences have different effects than they would if you made previous choices. For instance if you had killed off the krogan, allowed other races to get fucked over (they wouldn't be in the earth fight when the relays were destroyed or rendered useless) and so on. There are countless things you aren't looking at.
CZcams Commenter Those are what we call sub-plots. They're meaningless in comparison to the overall plot ending in the way it did. In fact, it's rather funny that pre-patch they showed the Mass Relays blowing up, which would quite literally have wiped most of those races out anyway.
The destruciton of the relays not blowing up all those star systems actually makes sense.
Still, I think the whole jump to Andromeda is a silent admission that the ending born of Casey Hudsons ego (luckily he "left" BW) ruined the Milky Way as a setting for post Reaper-War stories.
Mass Effect as a whole had fantastic music, but this song in particular, esp. starting at 1:05, gives me chills. The vocals are absolutely haunting. The triumphant yet sad tone of this song perfectly frames the situation it is for.
This still remains a prime example of moral dilemma. Yes, the krogans threatened the galaxy once, but... is it right to condemn so many to die unborn? What would you do if it was YOUR children? I'm glad I went with the cure.
+Luxai I chose the cure, but this is also the reason I chose the "Control" option at the end. That way if the Krogans get up to some shit I'll sick my reapers on them!
+Luxai I also chose the cure without hesitating. I was against the Genophage since the very beginning, always criticising Mordin because of that.
+Luxai it was an easy choice for me. i played through the trilogy from the very beginning, and i couldn't betray the krogan without betraying wrex, who was always one of my top 3 favorite characters in the game. to me, he was proof that the krogan did have a future. he was bold, intelligent, strong, and most important, honorable.
james moore Same.
+Luxai Besides, the Krogan are a war asset that's undeniable in the fight against the reapers. They will die, yes, but at least they'll die on the battlefield where they wish to be instead by a bio weapon meant to control the population.
Eve: Who will join me?
Shepard: I will!
Wrex: And so will I! Now hold your heads high like true Krogan! There's a reaper that needs killing!
Me: *does that punching your fists motion that Krogans do* 🤜🤛
Just imagine that only one salarian saved the whole race from extinction.
In memory of Mordin.
We remember, love and mourn.
I cryed a lot at this moment...this game change my life..thank you bioware...thank you
This music is amazing ..brought tears..when mordin died
I ALWAYS cure the Krogan rsrs
Fred Quadros
It's not fair to commit genocide over past actions
I always said that THIS should have been the game's main theme.
This sounds somewhat like DA:Origins' main theme.
We will always mourn you, Mordin. You'll never be forgotten.
The Second chance for the krogans song
Bro I cried playing mass effect,
Jezzebful Bro, all of us did.
Genophage cured. Krogan saved. A new beginning, for all of us.
The Tuchanka missions made me feel glad i cured the genophage... but sad by the loss of morden and the constant idea that the reapers might destroy all the progress
(NOTE: this was my first time playing)
Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
excuse me while I go cry like a bitch
Man tear, activate.
i cant believe that it was 9 and a half years ago when i thought "damn, i still have to wait 2 and a half years for this game to come out" and that the wait of 2 and a half years was over 7 years ago. damn.
Rip Mordin
RIP Legion
to every Krogan born after this day the word shepard will mean hero now lets go show them why
The Krogan were hoping for a future in which they can have children. How could the Salarians take that from them?
Because not every Krogan had good intentions if the genophage were to be cured.
They were afraid, and thought the worst was to come if they actually cured the genophage, which was that they'll repopulate and rebel. Honestly, I can understand that. But when Wrex made that speech about how Shepard was a great friend of his, it makes you look like a douche if you actually sabotaged the cure.
"I MADE A MISTAKE! I made a mistake... focused on big picture, big picture made up of little pictures, too many variables! Can't hide behind statistics, can't ignore new data, my responsibility... not your decision, not your work, not your cure! Had to be me. Someone else might've gotten it wrong."
"You'll see Tuchanka again. I promise."
1:05 it also makes you go "What have I done?" when you sabotage even with wreav because bakara is alive. When I killed mordin, I sat there for a moment when the music hit me, just thinking "Did I do the right thing with Wreav? Do I really need that dumb Salarian Fleet for giving the krogan False hope?" The short answer is no it doesn't, even with a tyrant in charge, no race, no nation, despite stereotypes and beliefs should be reduced to a slow, sad, painful extinction after being given false hope by the savior of the galaxy. That is my interpretation of this music: Every race deserves a second chance, even with a tyrant in command.
The thing is that the Krogans originally wanted to exterminate ALL OTHER races.
@@Kai-tn4yx They didn't. And even though you could make the argument that with wreav in charge it would start a new rebelion (still not a genocide against all species), that is because wreav is an asshole, and not because he is Krogan. Wrex and basicly every Female Krogan prove that they are not doomed to be violent monsters. And judgin them based on the past or wreav alone is bullcrap
Even in my Renegade playthroughs i saved Maelon's data. Always liked Wrex and Krogan in general. Really wish Wrex was a romance option:P
jaguar550 yeah right... and the "rectum" is reale big after Wrex´s Dicktator ;)
***** sry xD
+Mr. Noxier96 Probably Shepard wouldn't survive either.
+Mr. Noxier96 A more serious version of Morinth's romance
It would have to be an Mshep only with Wrex, because to survive shep would have to top
I'd say it's an even split between Tuchanka and Rannoch, both were incredible standout segments of the entire series.
Forget the ending.. this game is epic..and this music is beyond that
Mordin ;____;
You have been a champion to the Krogan people, a freind of clan Urgnat and brother/sister to me. To every Krogan from this day forward, the name Shepard will mean Hero
Psst! Urdnot!
Hauntingly beautiful.
We miss you, Mordin!
The music is so freaking powerful... Free the Krogans and Eve's speech... Damn I was looking at the reapers and telling my : "We are all now united. You stand no chance. You are all going to suffer."
It really is a shame that so many people pissed on this game because of the ending. The rest of the game is amazing, it's just the ending that left something to be desired.
I know right,the journey is what matters & not necessarily the ending which in my opinion isn't that bad after all if you think about it,it could have been a whooooooolllllllllllllleeeeee lot worst
definitely, the ending wasn't great, but the game overall was really good with very well-written characters, and the Citadel DLC was absolutely incredible
It was literally an easy pick for game of the year until the last 10 minutes... This was my favourite game series ever, but I haven't been able to bring myself to play any of them since beating 3. It got the criticism it deserved.
They way I look at it, it's because people spend 70-100 hours in this franchise to get to the end of the road. But when they're there, all they get is a big hole in their hearts and tons of new questions instead of tying loose ends.
Andrés Pétur Axelsson You're completely right. For anyone who hasn't done so, you should watch the Indoctrination Theory Documentaries on the channel CleverNoob here on CZcams. For me, at least, those three videos gave me a lot of what I had expected from the ending. I'm a firm believer.
I dont know how someone could bring himself not to cure the genophage with this theme
I had plenty of salarian forces in my game. Thanks again, Thane. RIP bro.
May her courage fan the flames of hope for the future. She is now the true mother of Tuchanka.
Jack the Ripper she can actually
Awesome series, awesome soundtracks!
I always found this song hauntingly beautiful.
"I would've liked to have run tests on the seashells..." There I go again. Crying inconsolably over a game character.
Reminds me of Doctor Who
1:03 Enjoy! :)
I cried listening to this!!
This song gives me chills everytime I listen to it, especially the vocals at 3:08.. It's a song so full of pain and sorrow and yet a certain strength that says "we endure, despite the pain and sorrow" or even "we persevere over the pain and sorrow". So good, so fitting.
Nope. I killed Wrex at Virmire, erased the data and convinced Mordin not to cure the genophage. I'm not about to hand the weakened galaxy to the krogan.
+Valikdu smh
+Connor Wilson to be fair after this person stupidly killed Wrex he/she made the right decisions after based on the scenario. Helping restore the Krogan with only Wreav in charge ensures another Krogan rebellion.
right?? handing a galaxy already weakened by the reapers to a vicious and aggressive species that spawns in hundreds and lives for centuries? no thanks.
Aaaaaaaaand where would the 24hr long version be?
For eternity...
This is one of my favourite pieces of music from the entire trilogy. Makes me teary every time
Never played the game, but still love the music
Heresy! xD
Play the first one immediately. Don't be a newbie and jump straight to ME3
Pillsbury Dope Boy hell no, i am sure you will rage on me but i think that me2 is second after first part, equal to third part.
no i meant that second part is eaqualy good as the me3 is.
+FlamingLisp I meant to play the first mass effect game and don't skip immediately to mass effect 3 since he has never played the games
this sounds very dragon age-y!
well mass effect is made by the same bioware company that made dragon age so yeah
+MatserSensui No. Dragon age is made by the same Bioware company that made Mass Effect.
Horacio Moldes that's what I said genius.go reread my comment
+MatserSensui I'm joking dude
If there is one thing that remains a fact for Mass Effect 3 it is that the game has one of the best soundtracks in all video game history
God bless Mass Effect the only game series that can make you cry and jump for joy no matter how many times you playthrough.
Dem feels are too damn hiiiiigh!
I! AM! KKRROOGGAANN!
The best bit: Getting to see the picture of the krogan children in the extended cut ending. Made me leap for joy.
@Solaxe I was about to post a similar comment. All that effort, all the bloodshed, tension and emotion that went into this struggle, the scene and the music to compliment it - all means shit because of the ending.
I'm so excited for number 4, I'm also really hoping they bring shepard back
shepard is dead , he is a god now
Pablo Zeta well they can bring him back as a memory rather than in physical form you know through codex and such , having certain places where was some of his biggest moments or say they can add Akuze and mention him there
Isaac Schmechel In Renegade ending you get a last "breathe" right after they place Commander Shepard label on the normandy's crewsquarters.
***** destroy isnt really renegade none of them are really renegade unless shepard was a renegade
*since i got that ending even though i was paragon*
Isaac Schmechel I wish they would bring him back.
RIP Mordin. Not everyone can get his/her own redemption just like you.
What an amazing journey this trilogy was
Had to be me. Someone else might've gotten it wrong
They say Mass Effect 3 was bad.... My ass only the ending....
That's what pisses me off so much about this fanbase, that I've recently assigned myself to.
Man 1: "Oh dear, the last page of the book is stained with non-sensical gibberish, ALL IS LOST!"
Man 2: "What about all the other 400 hundred pages of epicness that you read? Those still exist, right?"
Man 1: "Don't be ridiculous, this one page has cursed all the others that came before it because I said so! And now it must go to hell and there is shall burn in the unholy fires of Satan for all of eternity!!"
+Andrés Pétur Axelsson (Adventure Man) Don't forget that that stain was on the borders of the page, covering maybe a few words. But overall, the page is intact and serves its purpose.
reddevil9312 fair point
@@2urh What are babbling about idiot?
me: imma just listen to that track from mass effect again
me 5 minutes later: IM FUCKING REINSTALLING THIS SHIT
Mass effect 3 alone made me realise when I was young that most things deserve a change at life and if you give them hope they become something better hope is Stonger then anyone realises hope is only strong enough to those who are willing to give up anger and to give up hate so that future generations can live on with that hope and with that they can accomplish anything but never ever let go of that hope carry it with pride carry it like armor and carry that like it means something to you
That is both beautiful and profound, and it goes through my soul. Very powerful statement.👏👏👏👏
This song reminds of a song you would here from a Disney animated film (and no, this is not an insult towards Mass Effect or Disney).
riiight lol
+EdSkywalker Actually to me it has a Dragon Age feel to it.
+Robert Jones thought the same
I AM KROGAN!!!!! *proceeds to takle nearest enemy*
+BigBoss Nick You made me laugh so hard thanks dude XD
I love this song... Each time I hear the ending it makes me cry. So beautiful
The last Tuchanka mission is THE defining epic game moment. It's almost too hard to put into words. You feel the plight and desperation of the krogan, their frail hope, their eagerness to change. Nobody else gives a damn about them, only Shepard believes in them. All of this builds to a fever pitch in the mission, the urgency and push to release the cure. The mission end is so damn satisfying I jumped out of the chair and yelled "Fuck yeah!". What an awesome game.
Started a ME3 character without an import...Eve died along with Mordin... T_T so sad.
ikr life is a SOB
Eve's rallying cry and the epic rolling out in a convoy of Trucks were one of (if not) the best scenes in the game. I was grinding my teeth for the battle to come.
This music, combined with taking out a Reaper with a thresher maw was probably one of the highest points in the entire franchise.
this song gives me goosebumps, a masterpiece.
Wrex, Eve, and Grunt are my favorite krogans ever!!! True badasses!!
The Tuchanka Mission and the Quarian Geth conflict were to two best moments in the game...so awesome.
this is amazing
So true! I am a gamer for 20 years now. Mass effect trilogy was the best gaming experience I have ever had.
Such a beautiful soundtrack.
"You can stay here and let old wounds fester like Krogan have always done, or you can fight the enemy you were born to destroy"
So much awesomeness within one games....it makes your soul vibrate with it's sheer epicness.
The sheer sarcasm.. I can almost touch it. It's too much.. I don't think I can handle it.
This is such a beautiful piece, not only as the theme it represents, but even as a standalone piece. The strings and vocals are incredibly powerful, executed in such a beautiful manner.
Even thinking in relation to what this song represents, it's just pure gold. I could not imagine a better song for what this stands for.
A great many kudos to the many composers of the Mass Effect 3 soundtrack. Definitely my favourite of all three.