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For anyone reading the comments section, we bought all of our equipment from Signature based on reviews from this and another channel and I have to agree they’ve been awesome! I have no problem recommending them!
After buying all of our system from them we've had noting but crap service. Glad you had better luck than we did. Three weeks to get a call back from tech support.
The new Eg 4 inverters that you are now using are the best value out there. I would definitely upgrade to those if I expand my system. The Eg4 ll batteries are also the best bang for your buck. I wish those were available when I purchased my system 18 months ago. It seems to be the best system out there and everyone is giving great reviews. I'm already wanting to expand my system to be 100 percent off grid and independent. So far our small system is performing flawlessly.
I started small with 12 panels 3.8kw and 2 3kw Growatt inverters. A 5.3kw battery. I did everything myself and we power everything except our central AC and electric dryer. We reduced our electric bill by 62% and run all our lights and outlets, 2 freezers, 2 refrigerators, hot water heater, and a freeze dryer.
On a good sunny day it powers everything and charges the battery.
We can double the PV arrays to 7.6kw if needed. We will be adding more battery backup soon.
I encourage everyone to at least have some kind of solar backup. It's not the perfect solution but it's better than running a fuel powered generator.
If we can do on a limited income anyone can do it. Yes we had to buy everything as we could afford it and it took us 18 months to complete but now we're producing most of our power daily. LIFE IS GOOD!
The pantry is full, the barn is full of wood, and we're all healthy!
Great video and great advice 👍
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That's awesome. Glad you have that system in place. A good testimony to building up your system and saving cash to do it.
How does the hot water heater work with your system? Thats the deal breaker for me. It uses 49% of my total energy consumption. Im looking a a boiler system right now.
@moto mike119 My small 3.8kw solar system 12 panels and 2 Growatt 3kw inverters coupled in 240 single phase power my system. I have 5.3kw battery backup and will power my home through the night. I'm not tired to the, but use grid power to charge my batteries on cloudy days. My 80-gallon hybrid Rheem water heater is a 15amp 240volt model that has 4 different modes of operation. I use heatpump mode only, which does take longer recovery time but allows for lower power consumption. It only draws about 400 watts to heat the water.
Our average cost per day is approximately $1.40 if using grid power. A sunny day equals free hot water. We used this water heater for 1 year before we installed the solar system, and it reduced our electric bill by 38%. After installing the solar system, our electric bill is now 62% lower from a year ago. We have a family of four and never run out of hot water. There's nothing available that is more cost-effective than a heatpump water heater. I researched every method and energy source. Solar hot water heaters would be the exception 😋
What kind of boiler system? What energy source? I'm curious?
One other source could be wood gasification gas-powered generators or boilers. Very good, but lots of maintenance and work.
My system is minimalist but provides hot water, refrigeration, lights, and power. I can also double its capacity, which I plan on doing the next 2 years. My total investment is $9,000, and I will pay for the system in 4 years.
@@witness1449 well, id love to buy an outdoor wood burner, but $12k is Alittle more than i want to spend. Im trying to stay away from gas just because you seem "them" attacking propane and natural gas stoves, ovens, and heaters. Id really like to stay electric just because of the investment i already have in my solar.
I'm going to build a small burn box i can put at the end of my back deck out of a old hot water heater tank and put a larger copper coil in it and tie it into my existing hot water side of my plumbing. It wouldn't be too inconvenient to start and keep going to take showers at night. That way as long as i keep a fire going I'll have endless hot water. Also it should stay warm enough in my hot water heater so we would still have hot water in the morning without starting a fire. I can use the breaker to use my electricity if i still need to.
Im WAY OVER powered in the summer time so my dump can be hot water heater and AC. But this time of year and with the cloudy days back to back i still have the hot water heater on the grid. That heat pump hot water heater you have my also be a option.
@moto mike119 Wood boilers are great in the winter, and you can have all the hot water you need. They are vary practical for home heat , do have a high initial cost factor like solar, and use a tremendous amount of wood. If you have an unlimited supply of firewood, then it's a logical choice just costly. An additional amount of battery storage for your solar system and a free-standing wood stove may be a consideration for maybe less money. We heat 100% with wood and have 2 wood burning stoves. We're in Southern Indiana and use less than 2 cords of firewood a season. Please check out the 80 gal Rheem hybrid heatpump water heater. It's amazing!
Good luck and be safe
For those that cant diy a system or have one built. They can still get for minimal electricity usage a portable unit with a built in battery bank like the Bluetti or EcoFlow. They just need to supply the solar panels. I suggest at least 2 or 3 readily available at your local Harbor Freight.
For a few months now Ive been piecing everything together, buying my DIY off grid unit from Signature Solar. Ive purchased panels and the Growatt 3kW Stackable Off-Grid Inverter | SPF 3000TL LVM-48P. A few things I bought off amazon like battery and pv cables/w lugs & crimp tool., breakers & power distribution box. For now Ive bought from walmart 8 of their best deep cycle 12v Maxx Ever Start 29DC group size batteries, and ordered the H12 battery balancer. If later I can afford to get lithium, I will. It's all sitting on bench in the barn. The only thing I need to do is build a panel rack and will DIY that too with super struts and hardware all that I can get locally from Lowes.
Those that are thinking about doing roof mount panels consider the cons... Depending where you live you may need a building permit. Then also consider the risks of a leaking roof or fire caused by a short. If you didn't do thing by the book you may be SOL trying to file a claim with your insurance company.
Great content, well delivered. You do a good job! Thanks for taking the time to share.
Thank you Jason. I appreciate it.
California in fact avoided rolling blackouts this last time on 9/7. But we're paying 31 cents/kWh, so we'are looking at putting in a 16kW system. It makes total sense now, even with a ground-mount. We've got 45kWhr of batteries and we're going to run heat pumps with it so we get rid of most of our propane use too. It's definitely time!
Glad you ended up avoiding them. I thought I read that certain parts of the state implemented them. Regardless, the fact that they were talking about it is not a good development.
Also glad you are on the path to putting in a system. That is a solid battery bank size too.
I use a 3000w Growwatt as a facility UPS but also as a nice little ESS. Paired with 24v 300ah Chins battery with 7800wh and 9 used 230w panels I built my entire system for under 4k. Thanks for the great video!
Very cool. Thank you.
I just received my EG4 6k split phase and 2 EG4 batteries from signature solar Friday. I have 3k of solar input. I’ll be installing everything in the next two weeks. My plan is to build on top of this to a 24k system. Thanks to you and Will for your videos on the EG4s. Great videos with great content. I really appreciate your time spent on them.
Awesome! I appreciate the kind thanks.
Can you grid tie the EG4?
@@steve6631 No. These are off-grid inverters.
Reporting from Southern California electricity was 0.24 per kwh in 2020, it has increased to 0.32 per kwh in 2022. My usage only increase by 34 kwh per month but my electric bill increased $100. I would really like to get a solar system and have the capability to disconnect from the grid. I am concerned that even with solar if I'm connected to the grid the politicians will still be able to shut it down.
It is a challenge to connect solar in CA. They regulate it way too heavily. They also do not allow many inexpensive parts like I mentioned. They only allow approved equipment.
Great info
Ty for inspiration motivation and example
Thank you and you're welcome.
This was a great video. I'd love to go solar but it can be pricy so I'm glad you talked about starting small
Thanks. Yes, starting small and expanding is the way to go.
Thank you for the inspiration. AEP in Oklahoma...49% increase. I also recently received in the mail a Gas price Increase was approved for Oklahoma.
Rents will increase, retail prices, etc.
You're welcome. That is crazy for Oklahoma. Usually things are stable there.
Thank you for your reply. As an update to this conversation on energy fuel increases I've just opened my Oklahoma Natural Gas bill: Quoted from one of two letters included in my statement: "The February 2021 Winter Storm Uri significantly impacted Oklahomans". "The average residential customer will see a monthly charge between just over $6 to $10 a month, based on their annual natural gas usage".
For many people that is a lot. And there's a subsidy for those that are low-income customers. Their increase is $0.00. So for those who paid to install a high-efficiency system to reduce energy consumption, we are subsidizing the rest.
Part of the electric companies' and other utility companies' arguments for increasing rates are increased operating costs. According to a fellow CZcamsr, Scotty Kilmer, the US Supreme Court made a ruling against the EPA. The court's ruling removes the power of the EPA to regulate emissions (an operating cost). I wonder if we will be getting a rebate?
Keep rocking! I will be in touch with you soon. Going to install my own Solar System.
These are all good points and many of the reasons why we decided to start building our system as well. In addition one of our primary reasons was to run our deep well pump when the grid goes down. We have a midsize and a large generator and neither of them are able to run the pump due to its 60 amp start up needs. The system we are building, which is very similar to what you have, will handle this with no problem at all.
Awesome!
Put a soft start on it and take it down dramatically.
@@nealhamilton3881 That's a good idea but the last time I looked into it, they were crazy expensive. Not to mention just one more thing to go bad when I need it.
Putting something like a micro air (designed for HVAC compressors, but will work on most well pumps) will drastically reduce the amount of starting current needed to get your well going.
@@jtc1983tx Thanks for the heads up.
A little disappointed with the jab at California and EV charging.
They requested to limit charging between 4:00 pm and 9:00 pm on a specific two day stretch.
No different than Colorado and Texas forcible raising internet enabled thermostats.
As a homesteader, I jumped into EVs early. Here was a vehicle I could easily produce my own fuel for and be immune to swinging gas prices.
I do not care what oil companies do, I don’t buy gas or diesel
I do not care what electric companies do, I don’t buy electricity from the grid.
It took me a long time to get to energy independence, but there is a major value in owning an EV in an off grid situation.
Solar battery’s full and still have excess sun? Get the car to 100%.
Several days of clouds and no sun? Tap the cars batteries.
You got that right my friend
Thanks
Community Microgrids can give people clean energy and real independence.
For sure!
Thanks!
Very kind of you! Thank you.
First heard of Signature on Prowse's channel and then on yours. Was really surprised when I found out it was just approx 30 minutes away. Went ahead and bought a solar kit from them today.
Awesome
Start small - it can be done for $4 at Walmart - get one of those Stick In The Grass garden lights.
Let it charge in the day then put it in the house at night.
This will get you in the mind set of getting off the grid.
My next step was to spend some 20 or $30 for a battery powered radio I wired up to a small Harbor Freight
car battery tender.
Do these 2 things and your on your way
455watt panels..! thanks for alert!
I am more concerned about grid stability. Just added 10kw of panels on a 12kw inverter.
For sure. Good addition.
Well said
Thank you
Where did you get the array framing and what are the part numbers?
This is the manufacturer...powerssolarframes.com/. I bought it from Signature Solar. They had extra in the back of their warehouse from when they did installations. They no longer do that so they just sold me the old parts. I do not have a part number.
Signature Solar sales reps are NOT paid on commission, so they are not going to nudge you to buy more unless you need it. A friend of mine wanted a whole-house system, and he had some money to "go big". The sales person suggested the list I gave him was way over sized for his needs and saved him thousands.
They are honest and really nice.
I've purchased this exact system component by component. I'm a little nervous about putting it together . I need to build the solar array stand. I can not locate this set up you show. I searched signature solar website with no luck. All my components came from them. The only difference is I only have 3 of the eg4 ll batteries currently.
You can do it! We have a whole playlist for our solar build.....about 20 videos.
They no longer carry the rack. It was old stock they had only for a short time. The rack does come from a company in AZ called......powerssolarframes.com/
How have the eg4 inverters been in comparison to the old inverters? Any problems?
They are amazing. They are more powerful of course but they handle everything that I have thrown at them so far. Now I need more panels....lol.
Hey guys, thank you for your videos and the time that you put into them. I live in N. TX, as well. We purchased our solar panels from Signature Solar just recently but still need racking. I did not notice that you included your racking source in the description… could you give us an idea of where to start that process? We are in the mid-cities area.
If you don’t mind, I have a couple of numbers I can give you for quotes. You can email me at MnJPoodles at gmail dot com. Not trying to hijack so forgive me if this is out of line.
Signature Solar is also a source. Check back with them.
@@clarencewiles963 not for racking though
You're welcome.
Racking is hard to find. We purchased ours from Sig Solar but they were old pieces they had laying around from their installation days. They came from here....powerssolarframes.com/. I do not have a part number.
Thanks for the video. Which "item shape" battery ring terminal connectors did you use? I'm purchasing the exact same setup.
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@@CountryLivingExperience Thanks for that. Just the 4/0 Awg (Xl) - 3/8" (M10) Ring size?
I did use the 3/8" ring size for my 4/0 terminals. This was mainly because the bus bars I purchased have a large terminal screw on them (the largest in my system).
@@CountryLivingExperience I appreciate it.
FYI, EV cars charge at night for the most part when grid has excess power. I appreciate your efforts towards energy independence.
Then why did the state of California ask you to not charge your EV's?
@@CountryLivingExperience miss information. They preferred for EVs not to charge between 4 and 9pm. I hear that lie a lot, just a lot of people promoting Fear Upset and Disruption unfortunately.
What's you're take on the 12K GroWatt and the 5K GroWatt stackable? I get the 5k stackable units can be stacked and these are a little cheaper but the 12K GroWatt seems more than adequate for the average home. I've looked into the EG4 Inverters but I don't know what kind of data it can provide and how. I can't find any information on this. The GroWatt has the Wifi stick that allows one to see comprehensive details about your inverter and data. I know they also have a sever you can log into to view. I like seeing the data and I guess that the IT side of me. What does EG4 offer for viewing the inverter and data logging? I can't find anything on it. I'm also looking at the same panels you've installed. I like those and the 410w panels. I really wanted to grab some Qells but SanTan Solar sold out. I'm definitely going with the EG4 48v LiFePO4 rack batteries. I was trying to figure this out since I planned on driving the 4.5 hours to Signature Solar in Sulpher Springs to pick up some gear. I'm just trying to get my list in order. Thank you for the video. I agree with your assessment regarding energy.
I like the 5k stackable because you can more easily customize your system. Additionally if one of them breaks down, you still have several more that can power some smaller loads.
I am not really into viewing the info/data. The EG4's do log data and it is available via wifi or direct comms port.
Hope that helps.
You will be very pleased with those batteries.
I have a 12k growatt running 240v stuff except my hot water heater. It's not the best on efficiency.. It consumes more than i like. But it does have a large transformer in it for 240v starts. It would be nice if it was stackable but it's not. I also have a EG4 6500 running everything 120v in my home and im going to buy one more to run just my 2 mini splits.
Whole house may be quite an investment but we got caught in the Houston freeze with our pants down. Over $3K in damages (and we got off very light compared to others) from burst pipes because we could not run the 15 AMP controller circuit for the natural gas heater in the house. While we are looking at more of an RV sized portable system to augment a dual fuel generator I will say that the expandability of solar vs. other options is appealing. It is definitely a lot more appealing than listening to a combustion generator for 2-3 days and the inevitable 3AM refills! After that fiasco we took some pages from various prepping approaches. First step (for us) is emergency and portability then possibly a standalone whole home system. One issue facing may of us is that this is not our forever home in the burbs.
Absolutely. It is about security and independence. Glad you are building up.
I've got 1400 watts of solar panels and a 600 watts wind generator. I have twenty marine batteries and an Aims Power 24 volts inverter charger. I bought the first two batteries in July of 2020. I don't have much money so I had to piece together everything. I wound up with four different brands of panels, six different sizes. They were sold out so I'd order some other one. I got the wind generator three weeks ago. Waiting for a new watts meter, the other one had an accident. I bought a Winco Lil Dog generator in November. With all I have, it was right at $6000. I have more power than I need most days. At 5 a.m. the MT 50 is showing 24.9 volts, will be charging from the solar panels again in two hours. Full charge is 25.6 v. I had ordered a 24 volts wind turbine but they sent me a 12 volts model. I used it anyways. It has helped keep the voltage from dropping much at night. So the batteries are usually at float charge by 10 a.m. I started out to get a 3 k inverter but they were out, and a 4 k was too high, so I have a 2 k inverter. I have to say the wind generator helps a lot, when it's raining or cloudy. It must be producing a little bit, the voltage is 25.1 now. My little system works fairly well. I installed extra nuts behind the hub of the wind generator after some 70 MPH wind gusts the other day. It cost about $525 to get it going. From what I have seen, most people want the quick easy solution, so they're looking at a solar generator or something. That's better than nothing. But I like my system. It's a little more hillbilly than yours. It's all paid for, and it will run the air conditioning unit and the freezer this summer. To have all this power from the 🌞 sun and wind, is great. I'm the only one that I know of that has either one in this community.
Awesome. You persevered and made it work with what you had.
You are right, not many people are doing it. You are ahead of the curve.
What about using a propane generator? I was thinking about getting a few 1000 gallon tanks.
That can work but it limited to the amount you can store and buy. The price is rising a lot too.
I haven’t seen the entire play list yet so this may be answered later, but why did you decide on placing the solar panels where you did instead on the roof of the house?
Our house is under some large trees and is heavily shaded. The ground mount is placed in the sunniest spot on our property. Additionally, I didn't want 400 holes in my roof.
I don’t see your link for the panels themselves? Right now I have an off-grid system w three solar arrays, a wind turbine, and a 48 V maintenance battery system, with two inverters, all of it is aging infrastructure. The inverters are Kohler, top-of-the-line. But I do know I’m going to need to update my system as it is aging and I want more power. Though i’ve also heard the lithium batteries are half the life of maintenance old-school batteries.
Sorry, here is the panel link....signaturesolar.com/solarever-455w-split-cell-mono-solar-panel/?ref=countrylivingexperience
I would upgrade. Components are getting more cost effective as tech develops. As for the batteries, Lithium are zero maintenance, can discharge to 0%, and will last upwards of 15 years (if depth of discharge is 20%). They are way better than the old batteries.
Kinda off topic
But Where do you live anyways Cause those fig trees are amazing
Fantastic video Great quick overview of the system and cost 👍🏼❗️🇺🇸🇺🇸❗️🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞
Thank you. We live in East Texas.
I went on signature solar looking for those 455 watt solar panels or should I say the deal he got which was 20 panels for $3800 does anyone know the brand name on that deal or did they raise the price for these same panels which would be $5800
Inflation is now affecting everyone.
I have solar to run necessities. Lights, fans, electric blanket are crotical for us.
AC, water heater, clothes dryer, are luxuries that we have come to see as necessities.
At a minimum you'll need to spend $5k to have any serious amount of juice but for $500 you can get some minimal capabilities.
Two 100 watt panels and one of the small solar generators will be enough to run a small fan and a couple of lights. I have a Bluetti that stores around 250 watts. It will charge during the day with one panel a day run a small fan for 8 hours or more.
Batteries are the biggest expense in any system if you want power when the sun goes down. Apartment dwellers will have to work with very few panels, assuming they have a sunny balcony.
Absolutely! Good break down.
20% in Sydney Australia, the power companies wanted more increases.
They will take more and more from us. 20% is not bad comparatively but still outrageous.
We have the infrastructure for the current and near future needs, just not for the wants and consumption. Unless and until people get serious about reducing consumption, what's the point. Now I do plan on going off-grid solar, if I can get my current house sold.
Great point. Consumption is an issue.
I suddenly realized that I was leaning toward going solar because of fear. Then I asked myself do I buy an electric car because of fear? No. So why would I buy solar out of fear? Why are they offering people free solar????? What can they do to us if we are all on solar? Can they turn off the solar somehow? Can they control the thermostat? I would be very leary. Get yourself a wood stove!
Well, actually, if you have a "smart" thermostat, it is connected to the internet (so you can control it thru your phone), so yes, they can control it.
And, you are missing the point if you are asking what they can do to us if we all go solar. What can they do to us if we are only allowed to be on the grid? Well, turn off your power by blackouts, for one.
As for getting a wood stove, what if they outlaw burning wood? It is a good backup (I live in Maine where winter storms can take out power for days or even weeks), but is limited in its use. Try charging your phone with a wood stove.
You are completely missing the point. It is about independence. I also have a wood stove.
Exactly, not fear but preparedness. We recently had a tree fall on a power line down the street during a big storm. 7PM power is out until 10 AM the next day. Neighbors fridges got pretty warm, but not mine. I was even able to run an extension cord to a neighbor to help out. Not fear. The fact it can pay for itself is just gravy.
Last year I got a very small generator that could be charged w a solar panel (as well as an outlet or a car), and a small portable set or panels. Thought: if I lose power, it will charge my phone and keep me warm with an electric blanket in my car in an emergency. But my goal is to be a 100% solar self supported!
Cool. Keep adding to that system. Build it up.
@@CountryLivingExperience Absolutely!! Im in NC, and my sister is in CA... I dont know how she deals with their nonsense!
started last year, with 2 panel, i'm at 30 now, with 20 kw battery storage, ALL DONE MYSELF, and i didnt know NOTHING back then, information are all over the internet, even my battery are done myself, diy is the way go to, otherwise it's way to expensive., if i can do it, everyone can
Awesome!! Nice work!
Brother, what rack are you using? That’s the one component I can’t find at a reasonable price. $1,200 is reasonable to me. Thanks, Dan
Sorry, solar array rack.
Hello. We used a rack from this company...powerssolarframes.com/. We did purchase it from Signature Solar but they no longer carry them. I am not sure how much they are to buy direct from Powers which is located in AZ. It is quite big so the shipping may be significant.
@@CountryLivingExperience Thanks, seriously appreciate the insight. Crazy how my 13KW build is stuck on the array rack…
@@appalachianheartsong5487 You're welcome. They are an expensive and hard to find portion of the system for sure.
You said you have 20 panels but i count 40 behind you. Are those also 455 watt?
There are 20. Those are split cell panels. Click the link to Sig Solar for the panels and yu will see them clearly.
@@CountryLivingExperience I see, thanks
Did you just suggest using butane inside a home??
I didn't say that. However, many of those small butane stoves can be used indoors.
How about if the house owners do not want but the renters want it?
The owner is the owner. What he says is law....he owns the house.
CLE, you are correct...on why Solar Now!! Energy(electricity) SECURITY & INDEPENDENCE !!
and...
re: any "hazards to health",
PV modules('panels') under normal use do not pollute unless integrity of sealed cells are broken as at a landfill, etc. I have customers with ground mount & roof near & on living growing areas with 0 issues. The Bigger concern should be the leaching & drainage from roofing materials ashphalt ('shingles') petroleum based products!!🧐
And if using the utility with majority of fuel burnt realeasing sulfites, carcinogens, &/or million year nuclear waste products that cannot be disposed of I.M.B.Y.🧬
Any release from even a rare seal damaged PV modules is minimal compared to the cummulative toxic waste expelled from central fossil fueled plants (inc. Nukes!) to produce energy for decades... coincidentally
solar panels produce free electricity for 30-50+ year lifecycle of almost pure clean energy🌻🌻🌅
Thank you. I appreciate your comments a lot!
As a Californian, it breaks my heart that I have to leave due to cost of utilities. I also know there are relatively few trustworthy solar companies. UGH
Many people are leaving for that same reason.
I would leave California because it’s basically turned into a communist state
The cost of utilities is one of many symptoms of the mess politicians have created in California. It is possible to find peace and happiness after uprooting yourself.
We landed in Upshur County TX and love it here. Like many counties in TX, you don't have to ask for permission to build something on your own land.
@@mentalarson With the caveat that those who move from places like Cali do not bring the same political mentality that led them to vote for the horrible politicians that messed it up in the first place.
@@CountryLivingExperience Amen!
“You came here from there because you didn’t like it there, and now you want to change here to be like there. You are welcome here, only don’t try to make here like there. If you want to make here like there you shouldn’t have left there in the first place.”
Two things... Electricity and water. Electricity is easy. Water, I've come to realize, is much harder. I'm wondering if an array of solar panels can be guttered to collect rain water to fill a 20,000 to 100,000 gallon cistern.
Very true. I am putting in another rainwater tank as we speak. You could absolutely collect off your panels to an underground cistern.
Sadly, we would never get planning permission here in the UK for that
I'm sorry about that. I hope you guys can fight back. It seems like you don't have much freedom.
You can buy a small solar generator. Portable. To run some lights and electronics.
@@CountryLivingExperience Yes you are so right about that! But I'm up for trying anything like a generator etc. I will have a look at that. Luckily I have gone off grid with heating as I have 2 multi-fuel stoves, one of which I can cook in and on. However, I so feel for those people in modern housing where they have no choices at all. I have been looking at the wee panels for the polytunnel and that kind of thing. I'm sure there is more I can do as I'm a big prepper, and it is only on channels like yours where we get to know our options.
So glad you have gone off grid. You are way ahead of the curve. I feel sorry for those in the city too.
Remember EMP shielding!
Here in Ireland my last electric bill was 120 euro at the start of the summer ,6 weeks later it was 340 euro, and its going up again, oil and gas is gone up again and soon to go up again, and then our shit show of a government puts the tax up on candles.. total shit show over here.
Oh my, that is crazy! Hope you can fight back.
I'll leave another comment I am thinking about going into debt I got out of debt a few years back but I'm thinking about getting two different solar systems also thinking about getting a solar generator system as well to back up the solar system I get but I'm just not sure if I'm going to do it or not. That and I really don't like having debts but that's probably the only way I'm actually going to get it and they have a 1 to 3-year payback system to pay them off with getting a debt and to get out of the debt that's what's making me think about getting one or two I should say to be able to pay him back quicker than actually having a long-term debt but a smaller shorter debt that pay off within one to three years.
Don't go into debt. Save, buy small, build up.
@@CountryLivingExperience
So what you're saying is I should not get solar panels because it could actually make me money by selling it to electric company and the only way I better do that is by getting in debt even though if I get in debt I won't be in debt very long only maybe about 3 years. To not get in debt is to not get solar panels. To not get in debt is to live with lead acid batteries. Do not get in debt is to never be able to afford to converters you need to ask you in your house. To not getting debt means electric company keeps cut and turning off my power cuz I can't keep a Ford paying them the outrageous pays that they decide that you owe them cuz they keep raising the prices. I'm trying to avoid paying too much for electricity I killed my gas 27 years because it got too much and I went through a different source the heat my house. So I have a question for you what should I do to get the solar system set that I need to run my house I can spare about 163 a week but I can't save the money the pay $1,000 in the same time better take to save the $163 a week so I'm looking at getting a loan that cost me something like $404 a month and paying $163 a week you tell me not to get in debt do I really have a choice if I really need to get a real solar system set or do I just go without. But if you see my situation you might say getting in debt might be a better thing than not getting in a debt but if I get in a debt it's going to have to be by my terms not by anybody else's I already know I'm in debt with medical bills and yet I know I'm going to get more in debt with medical bills this might actually upset up offset that a chance to have another income to help pay for some things might be worth it you tell me.
@@acefire4050 C.L.E. let me help out on this Q..
(note: I've bee in Solar PV industry for 27 years!)
Choices: 1. Keep paying the "$163/week" to utility!!
BEST 2. Reduce current household usage any way reasonable (turn off central A/C , like I did, and a save hundreds$$/month,etc...)
then... invest that money saved in a small grid-tied PV system (with an inverter like a sol-ark hybrid inverter that you can convert to battery later)
to let it start reducing electric bill more (raise will increase even more than std. utility rate of inflation) as CLE is warning!!
Bottom line...if you do nothing, you costs for utility will never be 'paid-off"!
Get solar now and let FREE fuel' from sun falling on your roof or property Now and let it work for you... to reduce your daily energy cost and it WILL start "paying' for itself from day 1! Solar GA
@@solartime8983 right now all I have is a few solar panels for my house the electric has been turned off and I don't have enough solar to run my whole house so I'm betting on a little bit more solar with a little bit of a loan they get solar panels the inverters and some batteries 12 to be in fact which still won't be enough but it's better than lead acid batteries which I've been using for 28 years and they're still good batteries don't get me wrong and they ain't enough batteries either but the batteries I'm getting a bigger than these batteries and more reted it for solar instead of ones I'm using that are not rated it for solar. Yes I do buy little tiny solar panels that are 100 Watts that ain't worth much of anything but they do help if I get enough on it what solar panels it would be enough but I'd rather get bigger solar panels and I don't know why people think so highly up on 100 watt solar panels I personally like the biggest solar panels the ones that come with a lot more watts and amps and volts so I found a place that will give me a little loan to get a little system that is not actually so little that actually has two 6,000 Watt inverters and many 365 watt solar panels too more watts I have now multiplied more yes I do have four solar panels that are bigger than 365 Watts but that's only four solar panels but what I really wanted I'm going to have to get later for solar panels I know where they are cheaper than the other places but I don't want to buy one every two weeks or two every 6 weeks or something like that when they want me to buy 10 at least at one time I agree with that 10 but I have to have the money first and the way food cost and food cost to go in even though the fuel has gone down slightly are so high it's going to take a little bit longer to save the money especially when the only time I'm willing to do solar is in the spring and summertime when you can actually do it and not in the winter time or there's two feet of snow on the ground but yes I do buy solar panels in the winter time when I can't do nothing with them but I do do something with them in the summer. But when I buy solar panels and I can't do nothing with them I put them upstairs in a big bedroom no one uses it so it's a good place to set them when I can't do nothing with them but right now if I order it there to come hopefully in a few weeks and I might give you something before we get snow typically we won't get snow for about one and a half to two months but if we're supposed to get a worse winter this year we might get it sooner. Without having electric company in a little bit of solar I do have I still can cook I just can't use my kitchen oven stove my big refrigerator but my mini refrigerator and my freezer works just fine with the solar my TV computer lights I did get in a 6000 watt inverter but it looks like something did you use way back 30 40 years ago with hookups for it which is a little baffling but it is what it is. Good thing I have other inverters that I use well actually I use many inverters power what I need to power in a few months or less I'll hook up a couple more for more power for winter. But not my kitchen stove oven not unless something comes through what you give me a debt that I really don't want but would work okay for what I would get. The power company has electricity back on because that I do pay off before that time comes to.
California lifer going of grid because of rolling black outs every time the wind blows. Making my own power & charging my electric car for free making me thousands of dollars a year. Imagine when the people start looking up & figure out power is free.
I hear you.
If can't do solar....Can also do a Sun Oven. And made in America.
For sure
Too bad none of those companies are close to me there are quite a ways away I mean there's several states away for me for close is not close close is 1,000 miles that's close for me I guess signature solar is quite a ways away I mean each of the company is I think the closest companies actually a thousand miles away the furnace company is I think 2000 maybe 1500 miles away I don't know something like that anyways I mean you do get companies in three different areas I'm kind of like in the middle of it got to go across the Great lakes and get to one of them though I guess Land and lakes over a mountain and the other one I just got to drive what is it 1,564 MI to the other one in Texas.
I am on board with you in many ways, but could you address safety issues? I was recently informed it is importand to keep solar panels Away from gardens and water. The panels pollute the area with cadmium and other things you do not want and are not healthy. This is what my research shows. What does your research show? Thank you so much.
I had already purchased another system before I seen this and you comment question. Tell me, you will what you found out. My system will or suppose to run a small cabin but I have not move yet into my future home. I got this system in case of a black out. Living in a 3 bedroom apartment. Thanks! This message is also for giancolabird
Its definitely true. I advise most people who want solar and water catchment for example to never collect water off the roof where panels are and its always my advice for them to ferry that water as far away from the home and well as is feasible. Everything degrades ever time and the seals on solar panels are no exception
The panels do not leach anything. They are sealed units. I have never heard of anything like that in years of research. I have zero fear of any problems with solar panels.
@@CountryLivingExperience i cannot find my source for that info. I have so many sources that I have trouble finding anything anymore. What they wrote seemed very logical to me. They may be wrong, but is there a way to test runnoff water for peace of mind? I know they pollute dumps horribly, but these panels are not intact so that may be why.
Yes, when the panels are broken up and the cells are exposed and broken, they must be carefully handled and recycled or they will pollute.
Fact is that a normal 3br home with a family of five operating their house as they normally would on grid, that complete solar system would cost $60K!! The average utility bill for the same home is about $200 a month. This means I could stay on grid for 300 months before I reach $60K. That is 25 years and the best part is that I didn't have to replace expensive batteries twice (10 year life) or any panels. I didn't have to monitor my usage or worry about power in the winter when the panels are covered in snow or week long dark gray sky coverage. Fact is that Solar which they have been promising would become affordable has been a lie for the past 30 years when I started wanting it. When that $60K system gets down to $15K, then it would make sense to BUY. Until then, solar is really only something for those located too far off the grid to get grid power.
Actually 'Fact IS' a grid-tied (no back-up) solar electric(PV) IS the best long-term investment to reduce rising energy costs for most homeowners.🚀 As you, most considering PV do straight line ROI calculations, assuming utility electric rates are constant (e.g.. "$200 a month...for 300 months...") but facts are utility rates increase constantly and, as C.L.E. noted some utilities rates in last year have risen up to 50% in US!!
So even without extreme rate increases now, using a very conservative (historical avg. 5%) on 200.$/ mo. utility bill over 25 years = $120,294.46. So which is better ownership of power source ...or renting energy with unknown rising rates for same time period!! You're cleared for takeoff...🛩️
You are right. Paying someone to do it prices many out of systems. But his DIY approach to everything is usually always gonna mean he saves money and gets smart. And now he’s not paying for electricity. My DIY system is smaller than his but also has room to grow.
Whole house may be quite an investment but we got caught in the Houston freeze with our pants down. Over $3K in damages (and we got off light compared to others) from burst pipes because we could not run the 15 AMP controller circuit for our natural gas heater in the house. While we are looking at more of an RV sized portable system to augment a dual fuel generator I will say that the expandability of solar vs. other options is appealing. It is definitely a lot more appealing than listening to a combustion generator for 2-3 days and the inevitable 3AM refills!
I will just live like the Amish do. And just won't have power. I don't have that kind of money. And most people don't. I can't afford the cheapest system. I'm a senior and live on a fixed income. I have been prepping for about 3 years now. But I can't do any of this. I don't think I will be the only one either. 😢😢
Do what you can.
After spending 20k with them I'm not impressed. It took 3 weeks to get tech support. Then we had a Doa inverter and that took a few more weeks to get diagnosed, that's even after we we sent photos of the system and voltage readings of the system. 4 tech later they determined the inverter was bad. It took us a few min to diagnose the inverter was bad when it wouldn't turn on like the other inverter. Tried to reach operation manager or owner been getting the run around. 🏃♀️
I have never had an issue. I can say they are incredibly busy and it does take a few days for them to get back to me.
I want solar signatures EG for 6548 inverters what you have two of them but 13 KW will not be enough cuz I'm telling you everything in my house is electric my kitchen stove would use one of them at 240 volts my water heater we use half of the other one and a big refrigerator will probably use the rest of it so I would have to at least go with three or four inverters and yes I want EG4'S inverters that's what I want to get but I'll probably get something else first and I will get those and I know you can line up to nine of them I only line up eight of them but I will get 12 of them and the other four would be for something else that would be for winter for my garden which I only have for the summertime right now and I'm going to try to add that for winter and that's what the four other eg4 6548 inverters would be for maybe I have to get a third loan after I get the first two loans hard decision to make and yes I'm going to get solar from them as well I like to solar panels and they also sell to buy facial solar panels but what I really want to get is the 535 to 545 Watt solar panels buy facial.
I do know 20 some years ago the electric company had solar panels that don't sell you and put their inverters on and their solar panels which were 500 watts each that's what I wanted to get back then I think I still want to get something like that but with a little more advantage that's why I want the 500 plus Watts but I'm also going to get the eg4s 455 Watts but first I probably get a bunch of smaller ones cuz I have to get loans it's probably do what I want to do and if I do that I might be disable the money even if I'm not making any money to buy the eg4 things from signature solars and I definitely want their batteries but I'm going with AGM batteries that are 200 amp hours each which gives me 14 plus kilowatts with six of them so I'm going to get something like hopefully 24 of them and I know you're only going to use half of what what the amperage is so it wouldn't be quite that much but it would be a start. Probably even though even over my 17 lead acid batteries that I'm using right now and so not making enough power to run my house that now only have 2,600 watts of electricity right now in solar panels.
California and then the number of people who have moved east. And still not enough electricity.
Yep
The problem with this industry is it is complicated. Not everyone understands electric usage or generation (science behind all this) so it's hard to determine if the salesman is lying or not. Many of these salesmen read off a script and don't fully understand the science themselves. Also how are these installers trained and certified? How are problems resoved between installation and component problems (blame game). You hear a lot about poor installations leading to roof leaks and damaging homes. Not fully understanding how tax credits work, how or if utilities will buy your excess power. Not to mention the different regulations governing your communities. What is the actual payback period? You really have to do your research, and this will take a lot of time and effort to understand the science, the equipment and how it all works together something many consumers are not willing to do. I know I won't I rather be on the golf course. Bottom line when you calculate pay back on investment it takes too long to get your money back and if you take into account that some components will fail it adds to the length of time to recoup your investment.
I agree some of what you are saying. My payback is only 3.5 years. I did all the research ahead of time. I recommend everyone do that if they want solar. Solar is not for everyone (I have done videos on all of those topics).
BTW...CZcams filtered out your other profanity laced comment and I deleted it. If you do that again you will be banned.
My old electric bill is half of what it would be right now literally they doubled the price and it did this back in January they doubled the price of what they're selling electric to the people here so bad that I couldn't pay it they turn me off and it has not been turned on since I still owe them money but I'm not too worried about it it's kind of funny but I do have some solar panels that doesn't run nearly is what needs to run but it is running some things it can't run my big refrigerator which is a normal refrigerator because it's something like 2,000 Watts or something like that well I could actually run if I could hook up the bigger inverter but I'm running a small refrigerator freezer some lights TV and run the computer I run what I need so I know bills are getting more expensive and so unexpensive and the electric company knows I don't use gas I haven't used gas for more than 20 years so they really know how to hit me hard usually when they turn me off I'd usually get them paid up within a few weeks or a couple months and that's it but I've been trying to get more solar panels course none of my solar panels are all the same size or how many different sizes so I'm using 12 volts but my solar chargers want to use 31 volts so even though I don't get solar panels that are more than 18 volts and most cases some of them are more but I could really go to 24 volts that's not what I'm going to do when I get a good system I'm going to go to 48 volts and I'm also going to use 12 volts I'll have two systems and truthfully I probably end up having three systems cuz I probably will do 24 volts but in a different situation but probably not with my house.
We need alert for Rocket Mass Heaters....there are some easy to operate ones that don't take all the time(not wood) to manage. If demand is up they may become more available. We do need a new infrastructure,,,new,,,so efficient compared to fix old with tech today. The Venus Project experiment would educate thus make healthy our youth...a most huge efficiency lost that we omit when thinking of inefficiency. We need to scratch the surface, face debrainwashing/Nothingness and figure out what Extreme Human Advancement should be. All just a line in the sand away, done right. ???? United World YouthOrg, a generation to silence their inheritance.......???...as They taught their English to our young....this has to be a generational move or it can explode either way. Truth never learned with mans Ego and Money mixed into a evil soup.
"the EU president" LMAO! 😂🤣
I know....lol.
Dismissing "the green thing" seems very petit minded. The monopoly held by ultilities has been built on dirty energy. The USA has way more blackouts than any other developed nation that is precisely because of antiquated grid infrastructure and slow adoption of renewables. Every single person that installs solar reduces the demand for monopoly dirty energy. What part of pollution is good? The blackouts are not just because of the recent and current crisis, blackouts have been normal in many parts of the USA for years and decades long before "the green thing". Same with water, the number of places in the USA that has undrunkable water is a shocking indictment of Third World conditions in hyper capitalist USA. Meanwhile the single greatest transfer of wealth in history has gone to the top while public infrastructure in the USA and other Western nations has got worse and worse and worse.
Our problems mostly have to do with the policies of the Biden administration! When you shut down oil pipelines, stop any drilling in the US, Shutdown nuclear power plants is it really any wonder we have problems!
On nuclear power we could go to thorium, which doesn’t have the meltdown problems that uranium has.
Those inverters and batteries arent going to last anywhere near 20 or 30 years.....even though the panels will but those degrade every year and put out less each year.
Lol. Good luck to you. Thank you for watching.
In other words, their as bent as the day is long!!
I'm sorry what I'm doing I'm not using candles what I'm doing is going through Walmart apps and I'm buying 100 watt solar panels blue ones actually because they start making electricity 2 hours before the black ones do when they make electricity for about an hour and a half after the breakfast stop making electricity and they're only 100 Watts but yeah I'm starting to buy those to start with even though I do have black solar panels and I did buy panels in the past but to my defense they do start making electricity and cloudy weathers like today and it's raining outside my black ones are not making anything not at all to show me right now they're not making 9:30 in the morning my blue ones oh wow they're making good electricity they're making real good electricity yeah I'm going to buy some more blue solar panels before I buy some black ones and yes I can buy black solar panels to Walmart too and I can buy bigger solar panels to Walmart and I can buy a good big system but first I have to have the money but I only have about 200 bucks a week that I can put to it and actually it's not even 200 bucks it's 136 bucks this week last week it was 160 bucks the week before that it was only nothing next week it might be something or probably nothing but the week after that I could pay probably $200 something yeah I got to start small I got to work small I need to get a loan I mean if I could come up with a hundred bucks a week $150 a week and if I could pay that each week on a loan then I can actually get a loan and when I'm hearing right now is $404 a month so if I could pay $120 a week on it and it take 120 bucks a week I could pay up that loan at 400 a month easily and slightly more but to make monthly payments probably won't be a thing for me cuz I saved up money it's kind of hard when you need to use money to live I can't budget to save it when I know I'm going to use it for something else but I don't need something for something else if I spend it right then cuz that becomes not in need to explain it to be too hard to explain it but it's just easier for me to pay weekly than it is to pay pay monthly because if I have to pay monthly I'll end up buying another solar panels and something else when I can't because I need to pay a loan I just never have the money to pay the loan then and I can't say that's true either cuz I did pay off a mortgage that was a monthly payment of course they wanted 300 bucks a month and so I paid him $600 bucks a month they wanted $163 a month so I paid $600 a month yes I paid off my mortgage early and yes I made weekly payments and they wanted monthly payments but I still paid weekly so the way I was able to keep paying it yes I paid their monthly payments but then I paid others during the month to actually pay it off like I said it works better if I pay weekly cuz if they want 400 bucks a month I'll just pay $200 a week all month long until it's paid off and then since I would want more and then I'm getting another loan and doing the same thing over and over and over again you know maybe I should think about doing that with a car too or a truck instead of coming up with cash for it to buy it but I don't like getting loans for vehicles something to think about something to think about.
There are no special color panels that work earlier in the day
@@mattbrew11 my blue solar panels are working today my black solar panels are not making any electricity why is that why is my blue solar panels make electricity right now my black solar panels are not they're both hooked up they're both hooked up the same way but in low sunlight like this cloudy day grace sky raining my blue solar panels are giving me power running my refrigerator and my freezer and my lights but the black solar panels are saying no we can't we don't got enough light we can't do anything sorry my blue solar panels are saying goody you can make power again. In in low daylight early morning rainy days and evenings my blue solar panels are making power my boost set up solar panels make power in full sunlight as well oh and a blue solar panels are ready for the North black solar panels are more ready for the South and that's the difference in why yes I have blue solar panels yes I have black solar panels yes I'm going to buy more blue solar panels yes I'm going to buy more black solar panels I like them both they both work good but in the winter time I get week and a half of cloudy weather my Bluetooth solar panels work my black solar panels are sleeping that's the difference black solar panels the same make more electricity that might be true but my blue solar panels make up the difference when the Black solar panels aren't working yes I know it's going to be sunny tomorrow and my black solar panels will be making power again but so will my blue ones but my blue ones are also making power today and it's dark and gloomy outside so don't tell me there's no difference don't tell me this other panels can't do something that the black can't solar panels can't do it is so cloudy out right now that the only solar panels that are making power for me at this time is the blue ones I don't know why the black ones aren't making power but they're not on besides I only make the suggestions and a comments when I see it actually happening yes I watch some of these videos early in the morning when the Black panels are not making power and the blue ones are in the early mornings and I can give you about the time limit it is before the black ones will start making power cuz I sit in my front porch usually from the first light of morning and to the latest part of the evening to tell you the difference between the blue and black oh and by the way my blue solar panels are not as big as my black ones my biggest blue solar panel is 150 w my biggest black solar panel is 405 w I also have 100 Watts black 60 watts blue 80 w blue but I also have 15 watts and 18 Watts and they're neither blue nor black and they do the same thing as blue solar panels do I got 25 watts of the panels they're near the blue and they're black and they do the same thing as black solar panels I run my system at 12 volts because I have so many different size solar panels the solar chargers don't seem to understand that because sometimes they want to run at 31 volts but the charging 12 volt batteries so I could actually run 24 volts with 12 volt solar panels that I actually 18 volts I do believe. If you say there's no difference you don't own both types or all three different types of solar panels you don't pay attention to him like I do you don't pay him as much respect as I do you don't take care of them as much as I do you don't keep them as clean as I do you don't take care of the wiring quite like I do and I don't think you would take care of the batteries it's still as I will and that I do that's also why I have batteries that are so old you'd call him antique and dead and they work like wonders cuz they're still good and it still give me the thousand amps after 28 years and they're called lead acid batteries.
@@acefire4050 ive been installing solar for > 20 years. There are no colors that work earlier. What you did is bought one panel thats crappy and another thats crappier.
@@mattbrew11 now it is cloudy outside it is raining outside my black solar panels are making 0.0 amps my blue solar panels is making 9.9 amps that's the difference between blue and black right now it is really cloudy it is gray and rainy my backpack my backflow panels are not making nothing right now and know what they are new panels my blue solar panel which is 28 years old and I got some newer blue panels they are making power right now but my back ones cannot seem to make power because it's early morning tiny colored like outside right now the sun is not showing but my boost solar panels are making power you can't even look at the sky and see where the sun's at so don't tell me there's no difference between the two solar panels when My Blue solar panels are making power right now my black ones are not you can look at the forecast and you'll see it's cloudy today you can see it's raining today I live in Wisconsin and it is raining my back's all the panels are not making any power it's kind of dark out kind of like an early morning before the sun comes out or late night after the Sun starts to set and the sun's no longer seeing but there's still a little bit of daylight my blue solar panels are making power they're making power right now this day people are driving with the headlights on my solar panels are making electricity you know the worst part about it all is my blue solar panels make electricity over my car headlights shining on them the black ones will not I don't understand that one myself cuz I know my solar lights will not power my blue solar panels will not power my back solar panels but my car lights seem to get them to charge a little bit yes my house is running off and blue solar panels today no the black solar panels are not running my house today cuz they're not giving me a single ounce of power not even a point of an amp. See I go with facts and proof proof is I've observing it and it's actually happening so I can't tell you that the black ones are working when they are not I only tell you that they'll give me 0.0 amps 0.0 Watts 0.0 volts that does not run my house that does not even run a light oh I got two Betty sets that are completely full maybe I should look at inverter on that then run my TV for 3 days and my lights and my phone and my computer just off in the blue solar panels I'm a big battery set 17 batteries it's charging with the blue solar panels not the black solar panels black subtitles tell me tell them inverter no power I'm giving you 0.0 and I'm giving you 0.0 and I'm giving you 0.0 I should go and check one other one I'll be back in just a second I got to go outside in the rainy weather to see if the 25 watts are working that one kind of reminds me of black solar panels so surprising the 25 watt solar panels I'm making electricity too and ask you to charge you said even says it's making power they telling me how much but it says it's making power as well I know my 18 watch my 15 watts are making power but my 405 Watts my 100 Watts they're not making any power not my black solar panels but my blue 100 watt solar panel are making power but then again so is my 28-year-old 80 w solar panel it's still making power too surprising thing is my 80 what 28 year old solar panel is making 80 Watts oh I thought after 25 years it was supposed to make power anymore it was only supposed to make 80% or 70%. I guess some people are wrong or they just don't take care of the panels.
@@acefire4050 we are 50,000 installations in at this point. If there was a panel that worked more often then anything else, I would know about it. If there was anything better in solar I would know about it but keep pretending you have a 1/10000000 shot at knowing more about solar than I do. Spoiler alert, you absolutely don’t. 😭😭
You lost me with the ignorant, and false,overpopulation talk.
What are you talking about bro?
You should not have any shade on your panels because it causes hot spots on the panels and degrades the life of the panels.