My website: www.jordanbcooper.com Patreon: / justandsinner This video addresses various approaches to the Canaanite conquest described in the book of Joshua.
Re: St. Augustine and the Canaanite conquest: "On the death of Moses, Joshua the Son of Nun ruled the people, and led them into the land of promise, and divided it among them. By these two wonderful leaders wars were also carried on most prosperously and wonderfully, God calling to witness that they had got these victories not so much on account of the merit of the Hebrew people as on account of the sins of the nations they subdued" (City of God XVI.43).
Good discussion, and I like the way you concluded it. There is mystery here. As C.S. Lewis put it in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, "HE'S NOT A TAME LION". I'm also reminded of Romans 11:33-34, "Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?" And ultimately, when troubled by these things, we must look to the Cross.
The conquest isn’t much different than the flood - and the point of scripture is that these events are templates for the final judgment. Read Revelation. Scary stuff. God is holy - it is absolutely terrifying- so what should you do? Believe in Christ, allow Him to address your sin and be liberated from the darkness of Egypt; be adopted into God’s family; find yourself on the Ark when the final judgment arrives!
I think that one thing to remember is the Canaanites knew and rejected God. Abraham knew of God before he was called, and Melchizedek demonstrates that there was worship of God apart from Abraham. There was no sign of this worship by the time of Joshua, so not only were the.Canaanites pagan, they were pagans who had rejected God.
Death in this world is not a punishment from God. Death is the result of sin. Consequently, if God gives life it is His right to decide why/when He takes it away. Who are we to question His judgments? Blessed be the name of the Lord!
I want to ask you something. How to you developed disserment about this disscusions? I'm more close to the London Baptist Confession of Faith doctrinally and what I usually do is stick to what I believe is the historical formulations in order to make a desicion about who is right and wrong about a particular vers, text, book of the Bible. I do read books and study them but sometimes I just don't know if I'm correct about my own belives, ultimatly I trust my guts, but that's not infalible.
You mentioned David Bentley Hart in this video. What do you think of his translation of the new testament? is there really a strong case for universalism presented there or is it a joke?
Hart is not primarily an exegete, and that certainly comes across in his often bizarre translations. He's really a philosopher more than anything else, and elsewhere it is clear that his arguments for universalism are really philosophical rather than exegetical.
Dr Cooper, check out my playlist on Biblical warfare.. I explain thoroughly the morality of Canaanite destruction, and specifically the targeting of women and children. You’ll appreciate my strict adherence to Scripture to explain the justness of the act. I know no other resource explaining the ethics of this war the way I do on my channel.
I have no difficulty with it. God is the judge and He decides who lives or dies. The land was God's and the land vomited out the canaanites via the Israelites and then the Israelites via assyria and bablyon and all because of the sins of the inhabitants. If one has a problem with the killing of the canaanites then one must also have a problem with the Biblical flood.
Your argument against the use of ANE material as necessary is simply one of consequence, we should not treat ancient works any different from one another in exegesis, there is no objective basis for that.
*Behold the Christian Race* ... Cush (Greek: Ethiopia), means sun-burnt face Phoenicians described by the Greeks, as fair-haired, fair-skinned people Persia means Lord of the Aryans now renamed IRAN Zimbabwe once known as Rhodesia Chicongo once known as Chicago ... 12 Tribes passed through the Caucasus Mountains (i)ssac's Sons / Saxons / Anglo-Saxons / Europe / Australia / New Zealand / North America / Christian First World / "We the People" ... 38 For as in those days before the flood, *they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,* until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, *so will be the coming of the Son of Man.*
This isn't an issue if you believe the Sons of God in Genesis 6 are angels and that the Canaanites were offspring of the Nephilim and angels. God is only genocidal if the Sons of God are the sons of Seth.
It is amazing to see such ignorance and justifications of killing in the OT when NT is nothing alike of Yahweh. Yeshua son of Eli Eli opposites the temple of Jew and began to teach the lost tribes of Hebrew which are the Gentiles in lower and upper Galilee which are the true Israeli children of Eli Eli ELIYAH the most high. Yahweh was just a lord and a liar
So he is hidden and mysterious and we just don’t understand genocide and his reason for it.... hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha wow..so much for the truth.....
The conquest of Canaan most certainly did happen. The bible itself acknowledges that the Canaanites weren't destroyed completely. That's because it was hyperbole, which is a very common writing style, especially in that place and time. Imagine two young boys squaring up for a fight talking about destroying each other and "you'll be dead". It's pretty common. There is archeological evidence for cities being sacked throughout the region for about 100 years, massive earthquakes, then the only history outside of Egypt is the old testament. A golden age of Israel during a dark age for most others. Since the kings David and Salomon have been confirmed by archeological evidence, chances are the judges and Canaanite conquest will be as well.
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Re: St. Augustine and the Canaanite conquest:
"On the death of Moses, Joshua the Son of Nun ruled the people, and led them into the land of promise, and divided it among them. By these two wonderful leaders wars were also carried on most prosperously and wonderfully, God calling to witness that they had got these victories not so much on account of the merit of the Hebrew people as on account of the sins of the nations they subdued" (City of God XVI.43).
Good discussion, and I like the way you concluded it. There is mystery here. As C.S. Lewis put it in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, "HE'S NOT A TAME LION". I'm also reminded of Romans 11:33-34, "Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?" And ultimately, when troubled by these things, we must look to the Cross.
Kline’s intrusion ethic is absolutely the best way to approach these passages. I love it!
The conquest isn’t much different than the flood - and the point of scripture is that these events are templates for the final judgment. Read Revelation. Scary stuff. God is holy - it is absolutely terrifying- so what should you do? Believe in Christ, allow Him to address your sin and be liberated from the darkness of Egypt; be adopted into God’s family; find yourself on the Ark when the final judgment arrives!
I think that one thing to remember is the Canaanites knew and rejected God. Abraham knew of God before he was called, and Melchizedek demonstrates that there was worship of God apart from Abraham. There was no sign of this worship by the time of Joshua, so not only were the.Canaanites pagan, they were pagans who had rejected God.
Death in this world is not a punishment from God. Death is the result of sin. Consequently, if God gives life it is His right to decide why/when He takes it away. Who are we to question His judgments? Blessed be the name of the Lord!
I want to ask you something. How to you developed disserment about this disscusions? I'm more close to the London Baptist Confession of Faith doctrinally and what I usually do is stick to what I believe is the historical formulations in order to make a desicion about who is right and wrong about a particular vers, text, book of the Bible. I do read books and study them but sometimes I just don't know if I'm correct about my own belives, ultimatly I trust my guts, but that's not infalible.
You mentioned David Bentley Hart in this video. What do you think of his translation of the new testament? is there really a strong case for universalism presented there or is it a joke?
appreciated the mildly inappropriate Anakin Skywalker quote btw
@@harleywykes4971 Honestly the joke was one of the few times I laughed during any sort of sermon or theology lesson. Inappropriate? yes. Funny? yes
Hart is not primarily an exegete, and that certainly comes across in his often bizarre translations. He's really a philosopher more than anything else, and elsewhere it is clear that his arguments for universalism are really philosophical rather than exegetical.
Dr Cooper, check out my playlist on Biblical warfare.. I explain thoroughly the morality of Canaanite destruction, and specifically the targeting of women and children. You’ll appreciate my strict adherence to Scripture to explain the justness of the act. I know no other resource explaining the ethics of this war the way I do on my channel.
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I have no difficulty with it. God is the judge and He decides who lives or dies. The land was God's and the land vomited out the canaanites via the Israelites and then the Israelites via assyria and bablyon and all because of the sins of the inhabitants. If one has a problem with the killing of the canaanites then one must also have a problem with the Biblical flood.
Muslims make the same argument for Islam
Difference between flood and Canaanites is that flood was directly caused by God, but Canaanites was God endorsing human on human violence.
So you would slaughter babies?
Augustine
Ambrose
John Chrysostom
Athanasius
Cyril of Alexandria
Hilary of Poitiers
?
Your argument against the use of ANE material as necessary is simply one of consequence, we should not treat ancient works any different from one another in exegesis, there is no objective basis for that.
*Behold the Christian Race*
...
Cush (Greek: Ethiopia), means sun-burnt face
Phoenicians described by the Greeks, as fair-haired, fair-skinned people
Persia means Lord of the Aryans now renamed IRAN
Zimbabwe once known as Rhodesia
Chicongo once known as Chicago
...
12 Tribes passed through the Caucasus Mountains
(i)ssac's Sons / Saxons / Anglo-Saxons / Europe / Australia / New Zealand / North America / Christian First World / "We the People"
...
38 For as in those days before the flood,
*they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,*
until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away,
*so will be the coming of the Son of Man.*
This isn't an issue if you believe the Sons of God in Genesis 6 are angels and that the Canaanites were offspring of the Nephilim and angels. God is only genocidal if the Sons of God are the sons of Seth.
It is what it is ........ hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha
It is amazing to see such ignorance and justifications of killing in the OT when NT is nothing alike of Yahweh. Yeshua son of Eli Eli opposites the temple of Jew and began to teach the lost tribes of Hebrew which are the Gentiles in lower and upper Galilee which are the true Israeli children of Eli Eli ELIYAH the most high. Yahweh was just a lord and a liar
So he is hidden and mysterious and we just don’t understand genocide and his reason for it.... hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha wow..so much for the truth.....
Yeah, it never happened. Archaeology proves it and the canaanites still live on today.
The conquest of Canaan most certainly did happen. The bible itself acknowledges that the Canaanites weren't destroyed completely. That's because it was hyperbole, which is a very common writing style, especially in that place and time. Imagine two young boys squaring up for a fight talking about destroying each other and "you'll be dead". It's pretty common. There is archeological evidence for cities being sacked throughout the region for about 100 years, massive earthquakes, then the only history outside of Egypt is the old testament. A golden age of Israel during a dark age for most others. Since the kings David and Salomon have been confirmed by archeological evidence, chances are the judges and Canaanite conquest will be as well.
@@thesavoyardit wasn’t hyperbole. The Israelites were simply disobedient.