Honda Tractor Mower blade timing belt DIY
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- Saved some money by replacing the belts on my Honda 2417 tractor mower myself. Honda make removing the deck easy to do and the whole changing the belts job was easier than
I thought it would be. You will need a socket set and a wrench / spanner set to do this job.
Cheers Gerry
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4 years ago, your videos helped me sort out my ancient oil burner (and now runs quieter and more efficient) and now you've been invaluable for my tired old Honda Mower. I have now replaced this damned timing belt about 4 times over 3 years, but with spurious ones. Am going to buy a genuine belt this time and hope it lasts at least a couple of years.
I know 2 of the previous breakages were due to sticks etc on the lawn, but why it failed yesterday I have no idea.
Thank you so much, i renovated the entire deck on an older model, it would not have been possible without this video
YOU BEAUTIFUL MAN ♥️ I stared into the abyss this afternoon when I drove over a foreign object and finished up with blades synchronised to smash into one another. Thanks to Gerry I fixed the problem and what’s more expanded my mind in the mean time. Thank you!
Great video Gerry. Got my mower back after 3 weeks of it being away being serviced, tuned up and put back in good condition. First time out I then ran over an exposed tree root, which I know is there and in 5 years I have missed it by taking extra care. Misjudged it this time and bang, snap, rattle. Isolated the problem but didnt have a clue where to start, until I found this video. I am a complete novice and this took me a couple of hours to change the belt and have the mower up and running again. A couple of pointers given by my friendly Honda dealer which I dont think are shown in the video.
1) Remove the grass chute by taking off the grass box, undoing a couple of large bolts (left and right) just inside the chute and pulling the chute out from the back.
2) Disconnect the blade brake / actuator cable before removing the deck. Its quite tricky to find but it engages / releases the blade brake. Its connected to a spring on the top of the blade deck. I knew about this as I replaced it a couple of years ago.
3) Release the belt tension screw all the way to allow some slack.
I did have a couple of issues along the way,
a) the belt tensioner mechanism was locked solid, so slackening 3 nuts underneath ( 1 on each of the smaller pulley wheels and one on the cable guide) solved this along with a small spray of WD40 to free it up. Once the belt was fitted it was then easy to set the tension.
b) I couldnt get the 2nd large pulley wheel off the spindle (opposite end to the 3 pulley wheels, so needed to remove both belt guards in order to get the belt round.
Only minor hurdles to overcome but wouldnt have had a clue without the video.
As for the mower, I inherited it with my house, apparantley its 10 years old and is still in excellent condition and now 100% working order.
Many Thanks Gerry
Excellent video and explanation. Going to tackle mine now. Took the fear of unknown out of it.
Thanks for the video Gerry, I took mine off today after I saw a massive hole in the middle. There’s a lot of speed tape holding it together now.
Great video Gerry. A big help in repairing a Castelgarden machine I use which is roughly the same. Thanks for posting it.
Well Gerry - thank you very much as I have one of these (I agree great mowers) and just dismantled the mower deck as you did but was wondering how to line the whole thing up again - the tips on loosening the pulleys, layout of the belt, lining the blades up and adjusting etc were great ! John
Thanks mate. Just got mine done. Great instructions. Just to add that if the toothed pulleys are on really tight as mine were, you can do the job without removing them by slacking off the adjuster completely and loosening the guide thingys.
Good video, had to do the same job a couple of years ago on the same Honda, I found a bit of duct tape on each blade kept them at right angles whilst getting the belt in place!
thanks gerry big help. borrowed next doors mower cutting lawn knocking noise from blades. removed cutting deck to find bearing gone on small cogged wheel was not sure how belt went around pulleys as it had come off . new bearing fitted belt back on happy days thanks for your guidence regards sam woodward worcester england
Many thanks for you Video Gerry . now back in business keep up the good work
Useful video Gerry. Looks to be the same deck as the Atco GT40. I'd just replaced the timing belt on mine but the mower didn't sound right when the blades were engaged. I suspected I'd over tensioned the belt, but wasn't sure how tight they should be. Thanks for sharing this information.
Great lesson on the belt.Thanks
Brilliant video, many thanks
Hi Gerry .. Just wanted to say how glad I was to find your video without which I would never have embarked on replacing my Honda 2417 timing belt. It saved me at least 300 euros, not to mention several weeks waiting for a professional to become available to service my mower in these challenging times ... So A HUGE THANKS !!! Cheers and greetings from France :)
Thank you very useful video I am am up and running.
Brilliant video very very useful thank you.
Super Video. Keep them coming.
Thankyou helped me out this video 👍
Brilliant couldn't have done it with out you
1:19 At long last... a video that shows how to remove the shell covers on each side. I've seriously been looking for years for this information. Thanks so much for posting this video.
My HF 2315 HME has served me well over the past 15 years, and it just wants to run and run. It's seen better days, but it's still a go-er.
However, virtually every time I've got to do a job on the mower deck, I've given up and sent it for repair because I couldn't figure out how these covers came off. Can't believe it's only 3 metric bolts! Been driving me crazy 😵
Hi Otto These are a reliable garden mower and to be honest year after year it just keeps running. Great it helped you. Thanks for commenting Cheers Gerry👍
@@GerrysDiy Thanks again. Finally got time to drop the deck and inspect a serious vibration. Lucky I did, as the steel deck at the shute exit has completely rusted through... not something I would have picked up on otherwise.
The handbook is grossly negligent in its instructions, failing to inform you that the right-rear wheel needs to come off to get to the deck spring control cable and nut. The written instructions are fine as a rough guide, but difficult to follow if you've not seen or attempted this before. I also struggled with those odd cotter pins... not your standard design.
Have already ordered a new deck, and I'll strip the old deck for parts whilst adding a new belt and blades. Plenty life in the old girl yet!
And for anyone who cares about these things, the HF2315 shares the same deck as the HF2113 and HF2114 (as well as some Mountfield, Stigma, and Alpina models), so long as you know the manufacturing year. My machine is pre 2007, so watch out for this if ordering a new deck. Something to do with the blade engagement being either a lever (pre 2007), or a switch (2007 onwards). They are not interchangeable apparently.
great vid Gerry wealth of knowledge again
Hi Hoodie. I meant to release it during the week but I messed up the scheduling and forgot to change it back. 😀 At least it's cutting the grass again. Thanks for commenting. Cheers Gerry
I can honestly say, I've never seen a Honda riding mower. Looks like a good one. I've had their motorcycles, and their generators are nice and quiet. I may have to trade off my John Deere rider.
Cheers Gerry!
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Hi Martin. This little honda is 17hp v twin and apart from this belt it has been faultless. I only have 3/4 acre for it to cut so it has a handy time of it. Lots of John Deere stuff here too. I live in a rural part of the country and all the land around is farm land. I usually fly my paramotor from the front of the house and there are some videos on this channel of that. Thanks for commenting much appreciated Cheers Gerry👍
well done ,great video.. can you tell me if castlegarden xt 190 HD timming belt done same way as ours is broke and a
was pulled out without checking how it was fitted ..thanks nick
What damage can happen if you hit something with a timed Dec and what sort of abuse will it take ie say a stick about inch and half thick or is it more like hitting a pathing slab what dose it take to brake as ive got some thick stuff to cut may have some stick in it thanks for vid
Thanks bro, save my life! 😂✌🏻
Happy to help Cheers Gerry👍
Thanks so much for this! I have exactly the same mower so this was really helpful. Good opportunity to clean out the mechanism and put some grease into the moving parts as well. As @andyrowson3507 mentions below you have to pull out the grass chute from the back and unhook the little cable/brake thing to get the cutting deck out. Brilliant video this - and has saved me a mechanic bill. Thanks again Gerry!
HI! Please can you tell me something...How can I replace the belt in the gearbox pulley in honda 2213 hidrostatic? I have one just like this but I dont know how to do it.. Hope you will reply
GerrysDiy thank you for posting this video i got new belts and watching your video helped me refit the timing belt
Hi gerry, thanks for the video. I have a viking viking mt 5112 z and the toothed belt just went.
I've ordered a new one but on my machine I can get the black plastic cover off without removing the deck.
Should I attempt the change to belt this way or remove fully.
Last time this happened it cost over 250 quid to be fixed so...kinda what to learn myself.
Any advice all really appericeted
Hi Gerry, I have a Honda VTwin Hydrostatic and the main drive belt broke.
I ordered a new one and replaced it my self. My problem is, the belf keeps slipping off the pully on the gearbox. What should I do to fix this problem?
Gerry how do you Tension the mower belt,when i start the cutting deck i t is slipping and squeals but cuts fine
Thank Christ someone put this video up
Hey Gerry, thanks for this - it was super useful and encouraging for me. Do you know what the plastic tank is when you remove the grass collector channel? It's next to a fan, on top of the back axel... cheers
These is a spring, that connects the mower deck to the mower. Do you know where to connect it?
I Think it is difficult to find the right belt for the mashing
I need a new carburetor also, so is trying to find the number at the motor, I don’t know where to look, should I open the Honda first?
The belt you're replacing at 5:07, I noticed my castelgarden one blade wasn't spinning, and found out that belt broke. I took the thing apart and it looks EXACTLY the same as on your machine. It's sad that we need to take out the entire thing to just swap a belt. Even more sad, mine was a brand new machine :( Thank you for making this video.
Hi. I heard that the castle garden and the Honda go down the same production lines. I would imagine that the decks are the same or very similar. I have this Honda a long time now and it's still on the button. Thanks for commenting Cheers Gerry👍
Thanks
Cheers Pat
Hi Gerry,
Thanks for the video, it was very helpful and I did the job problemless. Do you also have a video about changing the drive belt of the Honda mower?
Greetings, Jan (Netherlands)
Hi Gerry, great video, very useful. We've bought an old HF2417 that came with no engine to deck belt which I've now replaced. Do you know if the engine pully should be turning all the time, or only when the blades are engaged? It's turning all the time and it just doesn't seem right, any pointers most welcome.
Thanks, Dick.
its easier if you remove the 2 bolts holding the grass chute inside at the rear and move the grass chute back . But dont drive the machine with the grass chute pulled half out the gearbox fan will cut into it . Honda HF2417
Only video I could find on here that showed this
Great video, camera angles spot on. Did you paint her yet? Going to tackle mine during the week
Great and useful video, Txxx Gerry. May I ask u where you bought the belts ? (I do paragliding, not yet paramotor, I should try !)
Did you have any bother releasing the two pulleys for the timing belt? Tks John
Hi Sean from the Burren here
Brilliant documentary as usual
I worked on lawns most of my life replacing belts regulary
Small tip to share is to take pictures as you disable it makes reasonable easier as you have a reference to go on
kind regards Sean
How are ye Sean Cathain a bhfuil tu. That was the first time the honda needed anything other than oil or plugs. It's a pity my paramotor needa a piston and barrel but that was my fault. I was going to fly yesterday evening, had the wing and my mates paramotor setup in the field waiting for the wind to drop but when it didn't do that I dragged in all the gear and had some tea.😜 Gonna have to start drinking again. Thanks for the comment Much appreciated. Would be great if we get to fly together this year. Do you fly paragliders with the lads out west. Cheers Gerry
GerrysDiy hi as I have very little experience and still trying to get more experience there is a lot of interest with 4--5 with there own Paramotor gear l have a Bailey trike nice pease of kitt
World welcome you anytime kind regards Sean
@@seanshannon9910 Thanks Sean. Are any of you in the IHPA or know Cathal Fowler. Cheers
GerrysDiy Sean back my first training was with jack kiwaski a polish man was flying and training in Galway (utube Sean is learning to fly). Basic trike instruction from Jason Killeen but as he was not an instructor he was not happy putting me up as I was wanting hip replacement.two years on I found Cahills Fowler he got me in the air it was brilliant I have had sone short flights since some with Cathal and other with friends
All those who gave me instructions were Excellent
Now I need practical experience waiting for good weather conditions
kind regards Sean 0876783898
Hi Sean. I know Jacek.i just see on the Whats app group that the Burren is working today so the lads will be flying paragliders out your area now. Cheers Gerry
Is engine to deck belt hard to replace?
I wish I seen this earlier
Hi, I’ve got an HF2216 and the bearings went on the deck. I changed the 4 bearings and put it back together with a new belt but even after adjustment it’s way too tight! Any suggestions as to what it could be? Totally baffled!
Hi there , I have a 2620 Honda and I did the same job , changed the deck as it was rusted . Had to transfer the parts from the original deck to the new one and when I was doing this I decided to change the bearings , all four of them , put all together and lined it up and it works but I notice that there is more vibrations from the new deck when I engage the blades than their was with the old deck . Considerably more but it mows well . I also changed the two blades to new ones . As I say it mows great but I’m wondering why there is a vibration increase on the deck on blade engagement, any ideas ,cheers
hello, are you able to shed any light on this machine, we just brought it and seem to have a very loose belt which i believe should be taught, i believe it is for the hight of cutting blade, under compressed air i believe, hopefully you can help and i can send or show video off issue if you can thanks
Gerry, what hole did you put the belt tensioner spring into? Looking from back chute end, is the hole on your right or one on left - outside one? Thanks
Left 40”right 48” looking from back
There is a much easier way to replace the drive belt where you don't have to remove the deck - job done in half hour
1) Take off the grass bok
2) Remove two screws that hold sensor alrm for grass bok full
3) Remove the two bolts inside the grass shoot
4) Pull out the grass shoot
5) You now have access to the drive belt
6) Remove the bolt on the engine shaft (use a vice grips to stop it rotating ,use one of the bars so vicecrips can rest against it )
7) Drop the two drive shafts on the engine bar
8) There are two guide red pully need to be loosened so the belt can pop out
9) The pully on the gear can be taken off to get the belt in/out between the guide stop
Very similar to my John Deere Sabre 1540HR. My new timing belt snapped within a month. Perhaps too tight?
Hi Chris. I managed 10 years out of the last one and I think it would be still working if I didn't have a dog leaving things in the grass 😀. Your belt might have been too tight. Make sure you don't have movement on the top toothed pulleys. If there is a bearing gone it might cause it to chew the belt. If the belt broke fairly clean it might be a tension problem. Hope this helps Cheers Gerry👍
Does anybody know whether the right timing belt pully comes all the way off of the shaft?
Hi. Adam. The pulley does come off the shaft and there is a keyway on the shaft. Hope this helps. Cheers Gerry
could i ask you is your mower the 40`` or 36`` looking for a couple of belts for my 1998 honda 2113 and looking for part numbers
Hi Tinkering Taylor. My mower is a honda hf 2417 with a 40 inch cut. Hope this helps Cheers Gerry
@@GerrysDiy yes that is fine am waiting for a call back from a lad that deals in them
Mine snapped when I hit a wheel brace in the grass.......
Hi Ger need your help on two scenarios 1) I own a castlegarden xt190hd ride on lawnmower a hydro102 with a 40inch cutting deck I have received a timing belt for deck which broke, from JW tools Galway and tried to put it in but the right pulley won't lift after oiling it,left pulley lifted and I could run the belt over but right pulley is not helping me any ideas 2)On the top of deck where tensioner,and 2 pulleys are running to engine pulley have forgotten way it is set together would muchly be appreciated thanks Declan O Shaughnessy
And that includes belt pulley cover facing idea the open part facing which direction from deck to engine pulley
Hi Declan. You probably have it sorted now but if not upload a few photos or a video. Cheers Gerry
Hi Gerry bottom right corner pulley is worn as well with bearing so had to do it with new belt install as well thanks for help
Do I want my mower to be a marvel of engineering? no, that’s why I wonder if these are any good as a used buy?
You forgot to align the timing marks when installing the timing belt
Hi sargetester99 The blades overlap and I set them at 90 degrees to each other.. They overlap but cant touch. The keyway indicates the direction of the blade. I'm happy to learn more though 😜 Thanks for commenting Cheers Gerry
Great video. Thank you