Why No One Has Built a Subaru Forester STi Like This. (Next Level Insanity)

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  • @RoadsUntraveled
    @RoadsUntraveled  Pƙed rokem +9

    We have 3 EJ20 Key Tags left in stock!! Grab the last of them, not sure when we'll re-stock. roadsuntraveled.com/en-ca/collections/jet-tags/products/ej20-engine-code-jet-tag

    • @seanevans8767
      @seanevans8767 Pƙed rokem

      Details on the Forester please, especially who made wide body kit?

    • @CUSSLIKEASAILOR
      @CUSSLIKEASAILOR Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

      â˜đŸŸâ€ïžđŸ€™đŸŸ

  • @evilclownatwork
    @evilclownatwork Pƙed rokem +28

    Sick forester, but guys.... We've been building these foresters in Australia for the last 20 years... late to the party but glad you made it :P

    • @Luke-bt7ms
      @Luke-bt7ms Pƙed rokem +2

      Oh ur one of those guys :p

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem +5

      its hard to build when you cant even import them till they are 15 years old :p

    • @liamodwyer6316
      @liamodwyer6316 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +1

      I'm currently on a build with My06 xt turbo manual (personally really easy to upgrade and sexy) After selling my 1998 forester/GT sf5 for 4k😱👍

  • @ayitsyaboi
    @ayitsyaboi Pƙed rokem +29

    Man a Forester STi has been my dream ride for a loooong time and it sucks it will never happen haha.

    • @jonlipton9079
      @jonlipton9079 Pƙed rokem +7

      Not true brother, 06-07 FSTI is exempt from the 25 year rule. Just requires extra paperwork to import. As well the 04-08 is an an Impreza product so just buy a base auto forester and make your own.

  • @stressed_garage
    @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem +28

    heck yeah!!! this is amazing thanks dude!

  • @mb01269
    @mb01269 Pƙed rokem +3

    It's cool..dont know about "no one has done"...ive one sitting in my driveway lol
    06 RA sti
    I appreciate it and love to see not many feature these

  • @kristianodegaard6682
    @kristianodegaard6682 Pƙed rokem +4

    I talked w/ Chris at Big Northwest in Washington in August. Car is incredible to see in person, the carbon is just gorgeous. Super nice guy too

  • @Kyle-ty6mx
    @Kyle-ty6mx Pƙed rokem +8

    I've been following his build for a while now on IG, It's amazing to see it be reviewed on CZcams!

  • @mingshili9769
    @mingshili9769 Pƙed rokem +4

    Saw this car on subaru summer meet in Vancouver, this is the star of the whole meet, definitely the best build on that day!

  • @skippylegrandgourou2069
    @skippylegrandgourou2069 Pƙed rokem +20

    Chris is such a cool guy, he is always the star on Subaru meeting!

  • @Mike_44
    @Mike_44 Pƙed 13 dny

    My first Subie ever was an ‘01 Forester L, which I fixed its motor after the infamous H/G leak. I did everything on that car from regular maintenance to all sort of suspension work and learned a lot and always enjoyed the awesome AWD. Needless to say, I just fell in love with the brand. I come from the 90s Honda scene and had everything from a Civic Si to a beautiful S2K. But after owning Subies, I’m now on my 3rd Subie and haven’t looked back. This SF5 STi M is simply awesome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @eggpod4567
    @eggpod4567 Pƙed rokem +5

    The attention to detail that was put into this car, inside and out is so amazing.

  • @TrillMurray
    @TrillMurray Pƙed rokem +5

    I like the 3d printed bezel for the airlift controller. I'm working on doing the same thing in my 94 legacy

  • @defi_luvr7904
    @defi_luvr7904 Pƙed rokem +1

    Mad fozzy! Practical yet looks phenomenal â€ïžđŸ”„

  • @sandygarage3802
    @sandygarage3802 Pƙed rokem +3

    I saw a same gen Forester (GT model) on my way home from work today, it was lowered with pink wheels.

  • @WesleyDropDead
    @WesleyDropDead Pƙed rokem +7

    Been following him for awhile. Love this build. 😊 also wanted to add @9:05, all foresters through 2008 had pillarless doors not just first gens.

  • @uncleben4560
    @uncleben4560 Pƙed rokem +2

    Thought about it 20yrs ago because it had one of the best body style... i didnt have the means!!

  • @stevensiers407
    @stevensiers407 Pƙed rokem +2

    I have a 2000 subaru forester turbo, it has been my favorite to car to drive! it's extremely fun in the snowy parts of Japan

  • @chrisholt5001
    @chrisholt5001 Pƙed rokem +1

    I miss my 2000 gt the good old ej20 sound

  • @lukehinds4537
    @lukehinds4537 Pƙed rokem +2

    Awesome video. Love the fozz

  • @sethjoseph965
    @sethjoseph965 Pƙed rokem +1

    awesome content! on the Forester STi

  • @senpaisaucyy
    @senpaisaucyy Pƙed rokem +1

    Love seeing more Forester content on the youtubess

  • @isaacdadswell
    @isaacdadswell Pƙed rokem +1

    got to see this car in person last year đŸ‘ŒđŸ» beautiful subaru

  • @jrodsumpthin7516
    @jrodsumpthin7516 Pƙed rokem +1

    8:15
    Love it !

  • @marvinvisser5039
    @marvinvisser5039 Pƙed rokem +6

    Yeah been following him on Instagram ever since I got my own FSTI. Allot of work put in this build 👏 But you should also drive the newer SG STI which is now elegible to be imported in Canada.

    • @RoadsUntraveled
      @RoadsUntraveled  Pƙed rokem +1

      I've seen a few of them around.. love the way they look. Would love to drive one.

  • @mimike80
    @mimike80 Pƙed rokem +1

    In the PNW (WA) Subaru has a factory. They are the Honda Civic equivalent. A dime a dozen. I like this Subaru. Customized. As all cars should be. Expression.❀

  • @coffeejj00
    @coffeejj00 Pƙed rokem +1

    Down here in St . Lucia in the Caribbean we have people who have builds like that for it

  • @class2instructor32
    @class2instructor32 Pƙed rokem +1

    I have one with gold rims 57000km 3" with 91 octane tune from project lambda tune. Awesome car!

  • @grantbuxton
    @grantbuxton Pƙed rokem +1

    I had the ej 22 normal, it was fun, i have an opportunity to grab a wagon manual 2.2 I might go for it

  • @makotacos3018
    @makotacos3018 Pƙed rokem +2

    Forester Culture Representing 😎

  • @Magic_sk8board_media
    @Magic_sk8board_media Pƙed rokem +1

    Sick! I always give a rev for the fan boys aswell!

  • @moto46
    @moto46 Pƙed rokem +4

    Now thats what you call a beast wagon wow

  • @CloerSignature_TruckBeds.
    @CloerSignature_TruckBeds. Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    Car is incredible đŸ”„

  • @tomasz1643
    @tomasz1643 Pƙed rokem +3

    Chris, this is masterpiece, i love ideas implemented here. I have the same fenderist kit, aby idea how to fit rims with that big ET?

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem +1

      I'm actually using factory alignment specs. and no spacers. 18x10.5 +12 I have plans going forward to extend my lower control arms in the rear a little bit and then a couple other little things here and there.

    • @tomasz1643
      @tomasz1643 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@stressed_garage i was wondering if 19 inch would fit in those fenders but your example shows that 18 is big enough :-)

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      @@tomasz1643 I thought about it. but 19s make it less useful imo. I still daily it and I also beat the shit outta it and slide it in the snow :)

  • @Mcevoy91
    @Mcevoy91 Pƙed rokem +1

    Had an s-turbo also. Best car I ever had.

  • @lordraiden5398
    @lordraiden5398 Pƙed rokem +1

    HaHa I bought my SH Forester in 2019 as a daily while I was replacing my engine in my WRX. My WRX is still in garage and my Forester is lowered on coilovers, 25mm rear sway bar, adjustable lca's and lateral bars. Stronger font and rear endlinks and 18x9 1/2 wheels with 245/40 tires. It handles so well I had to put a well bolstered drivers seat in it. Next is STI full drivetrain minus engine. Maybe one day I will get back to the WRX.

  • @DG_427
    @DG_427 Pƙed rokem +3

    Cool build, the moulding on the fenders is bit rough though.

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      i want to mold it in but abs to metal in my climate will probably crack :(

    • @DG_427
      @DG_427 Pƙed rokem

      @@stressed_garage I don't think so, I'm from Finland and people do it all the time. đŸ€”

  • @user-mk9xi1fn4u
    @user-mk9xi1fn4u Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    wow!!!! very beautiful!!!

  • @MoosesquadonPC
    @MoosesquadonPC Pƙed rokem +1

    saw it in person when he went to winnipeg last month

  • @pablovtec3069
    @pablovtec3069 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    The one for the front blow is from bugeyes prodrive?

  • @Hondacbr600rrish
    @Hondacbr600rrish Pƙed rokem +1

    love these wheels đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„ great video.

  • @angelmjaponte
    @angelmjaponte Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    Hey men where you get that gauge pod to replace the glovebox?

  • @andrewjohnson7960
    @andrewjohnson7960 Pƙed rokem +2

    Love the SF5 manual extremely rare nearly all automatic i had a 2001 uk s turbo sf5 manual here in Scotland lost it too rust rear subframe snapped off almost half and it rotted in usuall rear suspension turrets i sold it and its had thousands spent its on road with prodrive exaust and wrx subframe

  • @Skydrag.V60
    @Skydrag.V60 Pƙed rokem +1

    Lord have mercy that’s beautiful

  • @pnwchris2000
    @pnwchris2000 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    Are all of the Impreza Platform steering racks bolt on to the Forester? Could I pretty easily put an STI rack into my ‘98 Forester?

  • @Kiwi_Bayer
    @Kiwi_Bayer Pƙed rokem +2

    Dont quote me on this but the model 08 -11 has a more bulletproof engine. We had a couple people push the stock block to over 400Hp (in NZ) and I think also in Australia. Very similar to the 04 model just with more comfort etc. I never had one personally, I had a 04 TbSTi Legacy and 05 ST, although 2 of my brothers have had a few foresters and still do and theyre nice to drive.

    • @30debt55
      @30debt55 Pƙed rokem

      Yes the SH is better comes with a EJ255, mine makes 350awhp

    • @30debt55
      @30debt55 Pƙed rokem

      All in at 3000rpm

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem +1

      so the idea behind this was if in 2001 they made an actual Forester STI with the ej207. if I ever need another engine I'd probably do a hybrid 2.5 block with these 207 heads.

  • @Shi_Okami161
    @Shi_Okami161 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    See ive seen some of these amazing forest builds and i want to get one cuz the i loved the wagon style impreza but getting one where i live in good conditions yeah nah good luck

  • @eggpod4567
    @eggpod4567 Pƙed rokem +1

    I love everything about this car. I'd say my only dislike would be how low it is to the ground. I'd definitely raise it if it were me. Just a personal preference though.
    Other then that, absolutely gorgeous car. I wish I could do something like this with my subaru outback. Lol

  • @MooseCannon
    @MooseCannon Pƙed rokem +1

    I feel like they should have made a manual STI Exiga. Just because

  • @jjsorenavki7005
    @jjsorenavki7005 Pƙed rokem +2

    Come to Australia or NZ.. plenti Fori at this level an more haha :D Sick build though

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 Pƙed rokem +1

    That carbon hood đŸ„čđŸ„č😍😍

  • @jmoore9806
    @jmoore9806 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Anyone know what rims are these ?

  • @gustomassini407
    @gustomassini407 Pƙed 19 hodinami

    whered you buy that sti hood scoop from??

  • @Itswagonfall2
    @Itswagonfall2 Pƙed rokem +1

    i have an 09 SH forester XT with a near full sti swap, runs at about 400 wheel on 25lbs of boost:)

    • @kyleelder1253
      @kyleelder1253 Pƙed rokem

      U really maxing that turbo out might upgrade to a big turbo

  • @p.victoryy
    @p.victoryy Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    regards from Ej20 - BG 😊 Very impessive Fozz

  • @steadyboost7
    @steadyboost7 Pƙed rokem +2

    Probably a long shot, but do you have any info on the dragon boat team in the B-roll shot at 0:59?

    • @RoadsUntraveled
      @RoadsUntraveled  Pƙed rokem

      Haha nope! All I know is that they made it back in one piece that day

  • @matthewtonks4937
    @matthewtonks4937 Pƙed rokem

    Also sold in Australia

  • @rcdchannel3162
    @rcdchannel3162 Pƙed rokem

    what wheel do you put on

  • @TrillMurray
    @TrillMurray Pƙed rokem +3

    By stock ecu, do you mean the fozzy ecu or the stock 207 ecu?

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      the only difference between the two is the 207 has an intake air temperature sensor where the 205 ECU does not. I'm actually swapping it out to a 208 legacy ECU it's pretty close to the same. the main difference is it has four outputs for spark instead of just two. I'm also going to speed density while retaining the stock ecu

  • @ChrisPBacon198
    @ChrisPBacon198 Pƙed rokem +1

    Torque Steer on AWD Holy S*** ! đŸ€Ż

  • @tightpantsmachine
    @tightpantsmachine Pƙed rokem +1

    Plush Nos neck rest, I dig.

  • @RF-zn8xx
    @RF-zn8xx Pƙed rokem

    A budget accessory based fozzy is found in most Cities lol

  • @performancepeeps
    @performancepeeps Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    What rims/wheels are those?

  • @georgesegovia8865
    @georgesegovia8865 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Whats the wide body kit on this?

  • @MADTrolleyMotorsport
    @MADTrolleyMotorsport Pƙed rokem +1

    Nice foz

  • @SteampunkDream
    @SteampunkDream Pƙed rokem

    what overfenders are on this thing? Is it all burn up?

  • @mrunrealizedprofits8431
    @mrunrealizedprofits8431 Pƙed rokem +1

    "its all ball bearings nowadays"

  • @shad3128
    @shad3128 Pƙed rokem +1

    Short answer why: money and time
    Long answer why: also time and money

  • @Temppy1
    @Temppy1 Pƙed rokem +1

    for the rack you can all ways do the 2015+ rack mod

  • @dackbowland1876
    @dackbowland1876 Pƙed rokem +1

    Sf is hands down my favorite Subaru. I’d take an na auto sf fozz over wrx any day

  • @tedorr5449
    @tedorr5449 Pƙed rokem

    Hi! If you have the budget to come to the UK for a few days, ur welcome to come and have a go & film in mine... i got the Fozzi 2.5 STI Litchfield tuned 330bhp that goes like a rocket...

  • @richardtaylor9656
    @richardtaylor9656 Pƙed rokem +2

    Have you driven a 20 or newer Outback Xt turbo ? When you speak of Subaru losing there direction , many of the people saying this haven’t driven a new Subaru

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      yup i have, they are okay but so chunky

    • @RoadsUntraveled
      @RoadsUntraveled  Pƙed rokem

      Newest Subaru I drove was a 2019 Outback 3.6R. It's the move to CVTs that have largely killed the brand for me... 0 feel.

  • @knowntalker135
    @knowntalker135 Pƙed rokem +2

    That's just nasty! Great job

  • @blueridge8992
    @blueridge8992 Pƙed rokem

    I’m own a ‘17 STI, FBO and e85, and I think I have PTSD from all the issues I’ve had with it in just 8 months of ownership. Now every time I watch a video about a modded Subie, my brain starts yelling, “ROD KNOCK, HEAD GASKETS, TIMING BELT, OIL CONSUMPTION, CYLINDER 4 MISFIRE, DAM DROP, FALSE KNOCK IS REAL KNOCK” and I get the urge to write the owner of the car in the video to warn them to sell their Subaru while they still have their sanity (and short block) intact.
    On a completely unrelated note, does anyone want to buy a nice clean 2017 WRX STI? It’s bone stock and only used for picking up my Grandma from her weekly Bingo tournament. I love the car and it’s been SUPER reliable. Only reason I’m downgrading to a Golf R is for the extra cargo space to fit my Grandma’s wheelchair. đŸ€žđŸ˜‡

  • @klimmenty
    @klimmenty Pƙed rokem +5

    I`m not from russia. I`m from Ukraine:)
    (designer of this bodykit)

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem +3

      I'm sorry. I'll make sure in the future to let people know that it's designed in Ukraine and only printed in Russia. glory to Ukraine!

    • @klimmenty
      @klimmenty Pƙed rokem +2

      @@stressed_garage Thank you!
      forester looks amazing!

  • @benpapworth6555
    @benpapworth6555 Pƙed rokem

    I live in Vancouver and would love to know where this road is.

    • @RoadsUntraveled
      @RoadsUntraveled  Pƙed rokem

      Google maps. Look for squiggly lines. We don't have many. Washington state on the other hand...

  • @eckzel2761
    @eckzel2761 Pƙed rokem +2

    I love the tails on the facelift gt, sadly I’ve got the first gen gt with the ugly tails

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem +1

      you can swap but if you want reverse you gotta get a facelift hatch

    • @eckzel2761
      @eckzel2761 Pƙed rokem

      @@stressed_garage wouldn’t I need to swap rear panels aswel? Swear they facelift version aren’t as tall

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      @@eckzel2761 i have not tried it but i have seen it done online

    • @eckzel2761
      @eckzel2761 Pƙed rokem

      @@stressed_garage I did some more looking and you’re right, may I also ask where can I find that hoodscoop?

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      @@eckzel2761 it came with my hood from vis racing. I think they have one similar on eBay

  • @Kevinsrepent
    @Kevinsrepent Pƙed rokem +1

    What rain deflectors r those

  • @richardwilliams3788
    @richardwilliams3788 Pƙed rokem +1

    I am Liking the rim set ,what is the name and model ?

  • @PilatuS23
    @PilatuS23 Pƙed rokem +2

    Not really my thing, but that's very cool.

  • @richardcornforth1770
    @richardcornforth1770 Pƙed rokem

    lovely car bud, shame she's not the STI 2 Type M though!

    • @RoadsUntraveled
      @RoadsUntraveled  Pƙed rokem +1

      I drove one a few years back! Video is on our channel.

    • @richardcornforth1770
      @richardcornforth1770 Pƙed rokem

      @@RoadsUntraveled Yes you did! Probably the first 2M video / review I've watched. Great video on that one too. I have one here in the UK. Love her.

  • @kenpowers6546
    @kenpowers6546 Pƙed rokem +1

    What are those wheels I need them in my life

  • @dylantheriault9007
    @dylantheriault9007 Pƙed rokem

    What wheels are those?

  • @FuJiNF
    @FuJiNF Pƙed rokem

    Not enough "fans" to justify bringing the Forester STI. A simple 04-08 FXT build with the STi DCCD 6spd drivline into a Forester would blow the doors off the JDM SG5 Forester STI. No top end because the small turbos Subaru chooses to run. That VF28 is SO SMALL. The VF39/43/48 are small turbos too. They don't give you the greatest powerband. Throw in a 62MM turbo and it'll give you top end on both 2L & 2.5L.

  • @DFPFTW
    @DFPFTW Pƙed rokem +1

    Yooooooi drive a na 01 sf with 217k miles 5sp:)

  • @davonhenry7467
    @davonhenry7467 Pƙed rokem +1

    What engine is in this

  • @melmom1102
    @melmom1102 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    It's sooo pretty 😱.

  • @30debt55
    @30debt55 Pƙed rokem +1

    Torque steer my ass, that would be the wide tyres tracking

  • @dontketcheeky6695
    @dontketcheeky6695 Pƙed rokem +1

    đŸ˜đŸ˜đŸ˜đŸ’„

  • @harveyhernandez6619
    @harveyhernandez6619 Pƙed rokem

    Cause not everyone has the cash to blow on fun

  • @itsalpca
    @itsalpca Pƙed rokem

    maybe a canadian has never done a build like that

  • @crisnmaryfam7344
    @crisnmaryfam7344 Pƙed rokem +1

    sorry to burst your bubble but plenty of people have slammed and air bagged fozzy's LONG before you came along lol.

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      yup that's true. I don't know anyone that's done it with a JDM Forester in North America tho.

  • @user-lt1bw5kb6v
    @user-lt1bw5kb6v Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

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  • @ricusmate
    @ricusmate Pƙed rokem +2

    When is someone going to build a proper offroad Forester or Crosstrek.

  • @user-bh2jw7vb7m
    @user-bh2jw7vb7m Pƙed rokem

    No one in this country ?

  • @danethunder2328
    @danethunder2328 Pƙed rokem

    I mean I got one.

  • @sin8364
    @sin8364 Pƙed rokem +1

    I remember seeing a post in a group where they wanted to see only static foresters. This guy got triggered because he couldn't show off his bagged forester on a static only post lmaoooo

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      awh honey, there was a lot more to it but Im too old to like drama... so sure that's exactly what happened

  • @jonlipton9079
    @jonlipton9079 Pƙed rokem

    I’m gonna put this out here. The reason the United States does not get any of the cool cars is because we would not of bought it. Subaru made the Legacy Spec B and they did not sell well. We only want them now because we can’t have them.

    • @RoadsUntraveled
      @RoadsUntraveled  Pƙed rokem

      That's a large part of it. I'd much rather have a performance wagon than an SUV, but I'm the vast minority

  • @ctroutt77
    @ctroutt77 Pƙed rokem +1

    Why has no one built an "STI" like that one? Also what were the easter eggs? Seriously people need to learn to title their videos

  • @Grimgrak1
    @Grimgrak1 Pƙed rokem

    Because evo wagons are far better

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      I've been waiting for a Subaru hater to come on... how is that Evo 11 coming along? or how about an Evo 10 wagon 😂

    • @Grimgrak1
      @Grimgrak1 Pƙed rokem

      @@stressed_garage They didn't need to make any others since subaru hasn't offered anything to challenge it.

    • @stressed_garage
      @stressed_garage Pƙed rokem

      @@Grimgrak1 laughing in WRC titles

    • @blakehartley4724
      @blakehartley4724 Pƙed rokem

      @@Grimgrak1 chill out kid

  • @EliAngwin
    @EliAngwin Pƙed rokem

    Do you know what makes a good car build review video:
    One without some shmuck talking the whole time.