@@BigDanGaming You should make a what-if video, about wasted characters, like Kelly Chambers, Tela Vasir, Emily Wong, etc. I wanted Kelly at the party, I wanted to show mercy to Vasir, and I wanted Wong instead of Allers as my reporter. And I wanted to romance Kasumi.
Another Turian that tries really hard to understand humans is C-Sec Executor Pallin, as evidenced by his line "You humans are always so curious, always sticking your fingers into someone else's pie. Is that the right expression? Anyway, what can I do for you?"
@@renthegigglefox Yeah, too bad the game has a raging dislike towards anyone who doesn't just believe everything Shepard says without providing evidence.
I love all the human idioms he tries to use. It's so hilarious and cute. Lorik doesn't get that much attention from fans like Garrus for obvious reasons but he deserves more attention.
With the original release version of ME1 I always had some general protection fault crash on Noveria often in the hallway to go to the tram or just after you leave Port Hanshan with the Mako. Then they did an update for the game to allow full HD resolutions a few years ago and I never had that issue after that. The crash often meant having to do most of the mission multiple times in hopes to get past the area that triggers the crash. Extremely frustrating. I mainly play through with the Legendary Edition when the mood strikes me.
@@outland9872 maybe in 4k glory I'll be able to see a single tear travel from his eye as he states 'now that you have my property you want to dictate how I use it?' For the 83rd time in a row
Wrex has some of my favorite lines in the whole game, which is why I think it's a bit of a shame that he doesn't return as a party member in later installments. By far, my favorite, however, is during the escape on Therum, where, in response to Joker's ETA report he says "If we die in here, I'll kill him!"
I would but as a soldier, I need a tech person which is Garrus, and a Biotic to deal massive croud control such as Liara, plus this is her mothers mission so another reason to bring Liara. Liara has Electronics but not Decription and I need both
I always liked Noveria the most. It was very much based on Knights of the Old Republic template: a hub city area with multiple optional paths and then the "wilderness" area. Basically all the planets of Kotor followed this design template. The old Bioware at their best.
Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age were Biowares last games. Everything that came afterwards was BiowarEA. "YA PUSH A BUTTON SUMTHIN AWSUM HAPENS!" I gave Bioware a chance but I remember when the EA acquisition happened people called it back then. They said anyone who thinks it wont change Bioware is fooling themselves. They were 100% right.
Ya mass effect and dragon age will always be my two favorite games of all time. Nothing that came after was ever ever same. Me2 is fun but you lose the feeling of freedom you get in one, and I was actually a fan of the guns in one of the thermal clips that come after. And nothing after the first dragon age exist in my world 🤣
@@joeywild2011 If you help her in ME1 and ME2, not only do you get the beers, she kisses you at the end of the ME2 sidequest. Always wanted there to be more with her, I liked Gianna.
I lost it at "language miss ☝" lmao I help Parasini every time, she's so savage. Had no idea there are so many outcomes of this mission. Another reason to love this game even more
These aren't the default graphics of the regular Mass Effect though, the difference isn't as drastic between regular edition and legendary edition. Dan is just using a mod or he manually edited the textures himself. It definitely isn't this bad normally.
Step 1: Find out who the package that Opold wants is for. Step 2: Get Package Step 3: Bring package to the buyer yourself (A Krogan) Step 4: Threaten to beat the Krogan to death with the Package. Step 5: *Huge Grin on face*
Yeah, you need to pass a speech check with Opould to have him tell you the buyer's name (Inamorda) and you get more money than Opould offers. Telling either you're keeping the package will have you fight Inamorda and two goons next time you head back to the Normandy.
Another amusing one is: 1: Agree to smuggle for Opold 2: Get the package and return to him, tell him you're keeping the package 3: Return to the Docking bay, Inamorda (the krogan) and some goons will be itching for a fight. 4: Kill them and return to Opold. With Inamorda dead, he doesn't really care that much anymore and reopens trade with you. 5: At this point you still have the package and you can screw Opold over by turning it in to Anoleis. It's beyond amusing how many variables Noveria has, it's an amazing part of the game.
Lorik Qui'in is funny. i love how he just doesn't get human idioms even 2 the point of confusingly poking fun at the default line 4 exiting a conversation. "let me go? do humans consider conversation a form on imprisonment? that would explain why so few are willing to sit and talk."
Ah Noveria. There's a reason to why it's my favourite mission in ME1. I loved the overall player freedom but also the fact that there were so many different places that you could visit during the mission, all interesting in their own ways.
I remember its also possible to finish the quest without even speaking to Anoleis once. Just go straight to Lorik and he'll give you the quest and at the end Anoleis really only meets Shepard as hes getting arrested lmao.
9:32 this is actually two options in one making it for a total of 6 different outcomes. If you choose the special renegade path as shown, Shepard will blackmail Anoleis himself for a pass and KEEP the evidence. This means that you can leave without giving the evidence to anyone (OR still give the evidence to Lorik)
After playing that mission for the first time... I'm still waiting for a perfect moments to quote Wrex in real life conversations, like -Let's not start a fight. -Why not? 🤨
Literally played dozens of times over the last decade, thought I’d seen all possible scenes and here you are proving me wrong 😂 really love the content - keep em coming!
I never knew Opold’s side quest was a solution to the garage pass problem. Played this trilogy so many times and I’m still learning new things about it.
Noveria is my favourite mission in ME1(even above virmire and ilos) and i wish we actually got some plot with Lorik in ME3. Instead we got mountains and snow on top of them and cerbresus and they called it Noveria..............
Actually, I was playing this game on my Xbone S yesterday (backwards compatibility FTW) and the graphics are A LOT better than this, must have been running on a potato to look "that bad"
I’ve played the Trilogy since 2015 , did the whole thing over at least ten times, yet I only discover now that you can set Anoleis against Parasini and have them kill each other. This really is a reminder of how great BioWare used to be, and how badly down the shitter they have gone in the past few years...
I remember on my most recent playthrough I was trying to remember how to do the second half of the Noveria mission and I just stumbled through it thinking ‚wtf this definitely isn’t what I did last time‘
Thank you for all your Mass Effect videos. Being a huge fan of the game, I found some secrets, but thanks to you, I'm planning my ultimate playthrough now.
DAN "Well there is a 5th Option , I bet many of you haven't seen ..." Me who hardly even Knew 2 Option... o.O BRING IT ON !!!!!!!!!! **Mind flies away**
Funnnnn fact: if you convince the Turian to testify with either speech check, you can talk to him again, ask a question, and then when asking about “something else” to pull you back into the main dialogue, you can re-attempt to force him to testify with the same speech checks. Do this over and over for infinite paragon or renegade early in ME1 and you essentially allow yourself to use whatever dialogue afterwards without fear of being paragon or renegade ENOUGH for some speech checks later on (of course assuming you leveled paragon or renegade)
Good video. Probably my favourite mission out of any RPG. It gets even more complex when you arrive at Peak 15. I only recently discovered that you can cure the virus and get into a fight with the undercover Asari lady and I’m speaking as someone whose replayed this game countless times and has never seen that outcome. The scope of choices and outcomes on Noveria is crazy. When legendary edition drops, I really encourage people to mess around with that mission by save scumming. There’s a lot of possibilities.
But theres another typical Italian woman in Mass Effect that you can technically even make your companion, her name was Morinth, have you forgotten about her? You can even romance her! It works out similarly to how dating Italian women works out in real life too
Italian here too, too bad the name "Gianna" is mispronounced in English as "Jeeanna" (it's supposed to be 'Janna', in Italian "Gia-", "Ge-"and "Gio-" are pronounced like a 'J', and the pronunciation of the double N should be stretched a little bit).
With the fifth option you don't need to go see Lork again. You're left alone in the office with the two bodies. If you break into the vault at the back of the office you can steal the garage pass that's inside.
After dozens of ME1 playthroughs, I never knew you can rat out the Hanar. I usually didn't even approach him. Even the one where Anoleios and Gianna shoot each other was hidden from me for a long time. We need more quests like this, with various ways how to complete them.
if i feel like joking around, i usually pick up that package and sell it straight to buyer, then go back to opold and tell him what i've done, to piss him off even more :D ...but if i'm playing with character that will get exported to me2 - i definitely buy off the licenses and, if shepard's level is already 57+ i go for package and bring it to anoleus, 'cuz that's the fastest way to obtain garage pass
The Mass Effect trilogy is my favorite game series ever. Ever. It really is. And, I still play it, nowadays, as part of my intense workouts 6 days a week (while I'm pounding it out on the elliptical). I am still...STILL...after all these years, finding new content, new scenes, new decision outcomes to this day. Amazing. Can't wait for the remaster. :-)
Wow thanks to CZcamsrs like you I keep discovering new things in Mass effect 1 I wasn't even aware there was five outcomes a shame that the rest of the games didn't have that many outcomes for a quest like the first one.
This quest is why Mass Effect 1 is my favorite in the series. The latter games are far more limited in scope and scale. They only really focus on the combat for the most part. This is the kind of direction the series should have retained and what it should resurrect in Mass Effect 4.
I'm glad to see someone that really gets why Noveria was so great. The mission format in ME1 is a big part of the reason why the game is so good. I always thought it was a mistake that they abandoned this kind of format in ME2 and ME3. I really wish they would bring it back in the next Mass Effect. Funny enough, ME1 almost seems more similar to KOTOR than it does to ME2 and 3. Noveria and the first visit to the Citadel are missions that always stood out to me because of their hub area structure and multiple paths to the same objective. All while still keeping the hub area a "Combat Zone" in some parts.
Not almost, it *is*. Things changed drastically when they became part of EA and, of course, had to appeal to the lowest common denominator and become boring shooters with dialog trees.
I like most in your videos that you give a quick synopsis as a refresher to the who, what, and where. Makes the whole content so much more valuable, especially when it's been a while since the last playthrough, if any, so, well done!
So, I did the one where I ratted out Gianna, and immediately reset my save, I hated that outcome so much, and it was my first play through attempt, then I gave the evidence to the turian, after that I stopped playing ME, until I picked it back up and did the long espionage mission. I never knew I could rat out the jellyfish...
Big Dan you rock! I have a dozen or more play through and am on my 5 time through andromeda. And I have to admit I have never seen all these different versions of noveria. Much thanks and keep up the good work sir.
I mostly do the Lorik testify ending because of the extra Renegade/Paragon points you can get from repeating his conversation until one of the bars are filled. The Lorik Q'uin glitch
It wouldn't be unusual for a Shepsrd to tell the administrator he is being investigated. We could assume he didn't know it would end in them both dying
A Shepard who got set off by the amount of disrespect, greed, and entitlement that was Noveria. Not to mention they got in his way on a mission where galactic civilization was at stake.
Just finished ME1:LE last night. It's my first time playing the game, and yeah, Noveria was definitely one of the best parts. I kept meaning to go back and try the other options to see what happened, but never did. Thanks for doing it for me ;) And yes, I did it the second way.
Important to anyone who gets to Noveria When you play this mission DO NOT SAVE IN THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE ELEVATOR AND THE OFFICE THE ELEVATOR WILL GLITCH AND YOU’LL BE TRAPPED I have to redo six systems after reloading an earlier save TT^TT
I like Lorik Qi'in and Gianna too much to screw them over like that, so I'm glad that this video exists to break down all of the possible outcomes. Still, I kind of wish missions like this featured one or two more (or different) characters that are less likable, but still interesting, so that I wouldn't feel too guilty for pursuing a more renegade path. There have been more than a few instances where the Renegade choice made me feel too guilty, so I reloaded a save.
Nunca me había puesto a pensar sobre las variadas formas de terminar la misión de Noveria Estos videos son *muy* interesantes y siempre alegran mi día con Info curiosa sobre mi franquicia favorita :3 Sigue con el buen trabajo! 👍
I will say I was always mesmerized by how many options you have for getting your garage pass. When I first played it, I figured it was just A. Paragon or B. Renegade. Then you see how there's much more than just one or the other. It's really cool how much of a difference these little routes have.
What blew me away on some of my recent play through a was how complex Peak 15 gets. There are so many outcomes to that section of the game. I only recently discovered that you can cure the virus for the plague and get into a fight with the undercover Asari lady. The whole Noveria mission is BioWare at it’s best.
@@daliothegamer There are a ton of ways to complete that whole quest line. I remember way back like 13 years ago. The first time playing the game. I just simply found a way around the whole thing by going to the hot labs first and then suddenly I was facing Benezia. Fantastic mission. Deserves a deep dive altogether. There is a plethora of ways to tackle it. Might actually surprise people.
@@holup2691 true... i had completed peek 15 in about 4 different ways... once, while playing pure renegade and not letting rachni queen away i also left hotlabs intact... by entering the train game gave me kind of warning about unfinished mission but let me return no normandy... maybe there's even an option to come back later to finish it off... although i never really considered to re-tray such approach - playing this game as pure renegade just feels so wrong in many situations... :/
well I recently finished ME1 via the legendary edition and your bet was right, I did help giana as I thought it was the most interesting and it made the most sense to me, since in my playthrough, I was going for full paragon.
When I replayed ME1 in the legendary edition I did something different after getting to peak 15. I vividly remember burning a bunch of rachni and then butchering all the guards in the little sanctuary to get to benezia but then when I did it this most recent time I just took some back entrance through the caves to get to find her.
You can also choose option one after getting Qui'in's evidence but before giving it away to anyone, do the assignments on Peak 15, go back to Anoleis, let him pay you for your information about the situation there (without really telling him anything worthwhile) and help Gianna against Anoleis anyways. It is not really a sixth way to get the garage pass, since you get it basically the same way is in the first option, but you get out some extra credits out of the administrator before getting him arrested. [Edit] Furthermore you can max out XPs by convincing Opold into telling you, who's the package for, than first talk to Anoleis (without telling him about the smuggling), talk to Gianna and do the whole Synthetic Inside quest until you convince Lorik to testify (it is really important that you do that *before* heading out to Peak 15, since he won't be there anymore afterwards) but DON'T speak to Gianna, then go back to Opold, tell him that you keep the package (you will receive the upgrade) and immediately after go to Anoleis and sell Opold out, show him the mod and convince him to keep it thereafter (so you will get the mod twice), you will get the garage pass and a reward (you can maximise it by with a renegade/paragon option). Leave for Peak 15 and when you come back, go to Anoleis, sell your testimony about what happened there (you can be very vague) and then talk to Gianna about the evidence and get him arrested.
Lorik - 'Let me go.'? Do Humans consider talking a form of punishment You don't know how long I've been waiting to hear that line again as I couldn't workout how to get back to get that out of him again. Nice vid - I thunbs upped at the JZ bit - bloody hilarious
I really wish I could take *full* advantage of being a spectre. There could have been an even more direct route for renegade players. It would have been much faster and more convenient to just shoot Anoleis, and take a pass off of his body; when he doesn't give Commander Shepard clearance to Peak 15. Noveria is still in Council Space, and Anoleis is clearly slowing down Shepard's investigation; so killing him would be an acceptable route.
I love how Lorik is just sitting there sipping a martini as the two thorns in his side kill each other all because of a certain specter EDI, play Gangstas Paradise
I was surprised at how fun this whole section of the game was. And it’s amazing, seeing this in the original game, on how good the remaster looks now in comparison. Game rocks either way, though.
I was wondering if you had done one of these on Noveria already, and look at what popped up in my feed not even 12 hours later! Thanks for covering this, Big Dan!
lorik quin is like a wholesome grandpa using technology (like a keyboard or e-mails,,) for the first time "if you must come back and, what is it, upset the fruit cart.." ^^ he's one of my favourite turians for sure
I always help Internal Affairs. I had no idea the Hannar offered the fastest way to get the garage pass :o I also didn't know about the fifth option. I always follow the Paragon path. If I accidentally get Renegade points, I reload a previous save file, even if it means having to complete half the mission or all of it.
4:43 damn, I always went that route not knowing there where other ways. And I have played the game a million times. Which is why, I was surprised when I saw the title of the video, like I had completely forgotten this quest existed.
I forgot to take Liara to Peak 15 with me like an absolute idiot, I opened the door and saw Benezia before I realized I left her on the Normandy. So I literally turned around, drove the Mako all the way back to Port Hanshan and picked her up
Yeah, though if you're doing that to keep from shooting him, just be sure to find his family armor on Tuntau before doing Virmire. It bypasses the need for a speech check entirely, he'll back down on his own.
6:15 I love how most of Big Dan's content is mostly just informational then he just randomly throws memes like these in it's hilarious and always refreshing when it happens.
I am in the same part of the country! I know Nor'easter storms, too. LOL I can see why you picked this mission, although I prefer the driving in the Legendary Edition. I'll be checking out your ME vids, too. Nice review.
The gangster move where shots are fired in the office is also a good way to collect some Renegade Points without investing Skill Points to Intimidate. I know the point of Mass Effect is to play the Trilogy, but I am currently working on my Super Shepard in Mass Effect 1. Speedrun the game twice: first run going Full Renegade and using the Space Monkey Glitch, then use the Lorik Qui'in glitch in the second speedrun (having gained enough Points to persuade him), then repeat this for a third and final Save to migrate to ME2. The goal from this is to max out my Charm/Intimidate and invest the Skill Points to have stronger abilities. It's meta-gaming at its finest!
Off the strength of the perfect Jay-Z cut this video deserves 1M likes, good stuff lol love the vids
Hahahaha I'm glad you appreciated that one
@@BigDanGaming when she said her line in my head I did the Jay-Z line and then you cut it in. Epic funny moment lol
Exactly 😂 fucking quality videos
yeah keep dreaming, nobody likes quality games anymore
@@BigDanGaming You should make a what-if video, about wasted characters, like Kelly Chambers, Tela Vasir, Emily Wong, etc. I wanted Kelly at the party, I wanted to show mercy to Vasir, and I wanted Wong instead of Allers as my reporter. And I wanted to romance Kasumi.
gianna: we can’t talk about this within earshot of anoleis
shepard, even louder: YOU SAID I SHOULD TALK TO LORIK QI’IN?
That bit always makes me chuckle.
Gianna's probably like "Better just tell them so they go away."
Don't worry, Anoleis is busy with 9 different things.
All of them annoying
Lorik Qi`in is second best turian in my opinion. He`s so chill and his attempts at understanding human culture are amusing.
Another Turian that tries really hard to understand humans is C-Sec Executor Pallin, as evidenced by his line "You humans are always so curious, always sticking your fingers into someone else's pie. Is that the right expression? Anyway, what can I do for you?"
@@renthegigglefox Yeah, too bad the game has a raging dislike towards anyone who doesn't just believe everything Shepard says without providing evidence.
He is great. I love all the turians though, Nihlus, Nyreen, Lorik, Saren... they're amazing. I'll always be happy to see more turian in games
I love all the human idioms he tries to use. It's so hilarious and cute. Lorik doesn't get that much attention from fans like Garrus for obvious reasons but he deserves more attention.
@@TheSorrel that’s what happens when the games told from someone’s perspective, you get there perspective
10:11 Lorik saying "why???" was so sad....
;_;
My heart felt like it sank the instant I heard it.
I didn't even know u could give the evidence to anolies. The voice actors delivery of that line is amazing.
He’s so genuinely hurt 😔
Giana's reaction at 10:35 is also pretty great. Everyone is just stunned at Shepard's absurdly selfish actions lol.
„You can‘t bludgeon through bureaucracy“
*Krogan headbutt intensifies*
I can bludgeon pretty hard
If the headbutt isn't Krogan style, what's even the point? Go whole Krogan or nothing at all!
Ha now i'm imagining Wrex going to a big office place headbutting every employees working there one after the other
God, I died at Lorik's "You... Why????"
For the glory of satan of course
That’s the same reaction I had when my best friend ate my sandwich I saved for lunch.
Honestly, Lorik sounded so heart broken at that point.
@@ShadowMage You can hear the tears in his turian eyes
"Specter... You betrayed me?! Why did you do this I throught we we're friends!"
When I was younger I hated how long this mission was, now that I'm older I have such a deep appreciation for what this mission asks of you.
With the original release version of ME1 I always had some general protection fault crash on Noveria often in the hallway to go to the tram or just after you leave Port Hanshan with the Mako. Then they did an update for the game to allow full HD resolutions a few years ago and I never had that issue after that. The crash often meant having to do most of the mission multiple times in hopes to get past the area that triggers the crash. Extremely frustrating. I mainly play through with the Legendary Edition when the mood strikes me.
Ah Lorik. The one turian to run up both speech checks to gain full renegade AND full paragon. I love Lorik for this.
I really really hope that bug gets left in the remaster
@@carlbradley3175 I have my doubts. I still have the original 3 MEs on my PC so idk if I'll get the new edition.
@@carlbradley3175 Good news! It still works!
@@outland9872 maybe in 4k glory I'll be able to see a single tear travel from his eye as he states 'now that you have my property you want to dictate how I use it?' For the 83rd time in a row
@@sorin_markovStill works for me
Bringing Wrex is definitely recommended to this mission, his quotes are a banger
They're fools. You should eat them.
Wrex has some of my favorite lines in the whole game, which is why I think it's a bit of a shame that he doesn't return as a party member in later installments. By far, my favorite, however, is during the escape on Therum, where, in response to Joker's ETA report he says "If we die in here, I'll kill him!"
Bringing Wrex isn't recommended.
It's *REQUIRED*
“Don’t piss in my ear and tell me it’s raining. I’ve known plenty of dirty C-Sec agents” is one of my favourites.
I would but as a soldier, I need a tech person which is Garrus, and a Biotic to deal massive croud control such as Liara, plus this is her mothers mission so another reason to bring Liara. Liara has Electronics but not Decription and I need both
I always liked Noveria the most. It was very much based on Knights of the Old Republic template: a hub city area with multiple optional paths and then the "wilderness" area. Basically all the planets of Kotor followed this design template. The old Bioware at their best.
Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age were Biowares last games. Everything that came afterwards was BiowarEA.
"YA PUSH A BUTTON SUMTHIN AWSUM HAPENS!"
I gave Bioware a chance but I remember when the EA acquisition happened people called it back then. They said anyone who thinks it wont change Bioware is fooling themselves. They were 100% right.
Or like Kadara Port in Mass Effect Andromeda
Don't forget the Tower of Hanoi puzzle!
Ya mass effect and dragon age will always be my two favorite games of all time. Nothing that came after was ever ever same. Me2 is fun but you lose the feeling of freedom you get in one, and I was actually a fan of the guns in one of the thermal clips that come after.
And nothing after the first dragon age exist in my world 🤣
@@jmlaw8888 I loved the feel and the true rpg elements of the first mass effect.
I always helped Gianna. I knew you could tell Anoleis or help Lorik, but Gianna seemed the most honest.
That, plus I want her to owe me that beer.
And after ME2, she owe me 2 beers.
@@irisravenhild9060 Haha I forgot she owes us those beers. Come on Gianna!
Anoleis is such a prick that I never even thought of helping him out.
@@joeywild2011 If you help her in ME1 and ME2, not only do you get the beers, she kisses you at the end of the ME2 sidequest.
Always wanted there to be more with her, I liked Gianna.
@@Scorpious187 Yeah I always got the kiss from Gianna. I’m gay but I still appreciate it from her 😂 I do think she’s cool
I lost it at "language miss ☝" lmao
I help Parasini every time, she's so savage. Had no idea there are so many outcomes of this mission. Another reason to love this game even more
I do the same. Anoleis anti human racism and him being a dick was his undoing.
Lorik’s “Why” when you tell him you gave the evidence to Anoleis is so genuine, so confused. Really enjoy how it’s said.
I've been looping on it for a good 10 minutes. I hope that VA is having a fantastic day and a cookie
These shots of ME1 classic makes me really appreciate how much they improved the graphics.
IKR...i was like what's wrong with his graphics
then i checked the date and saw it came 1-month prior to Legacy Edition
These aren't the default graphics of the regular Mass Effect though, the difference isn't as drastic between regular edition and legendary edition. Dan is just using a mod or he manually edited the textures himself. It definitely isn't this bad normally.
@@Octavian999or its the lowest settings
@@mongoliandeathworm2994 there is no setting that does this on pc
@@Octavian999 ok, thats weird
11:05 "Ah, yes, allergies. We have dismissed that claim."
Step 1: Find out who the package that Opold wants is for.
Step 2: Get Package
Step 3: Bring package to the buyer yourself (A Krogan)
Step 4: Threaten to beat the Krogan to death with the Package.
Step 5: *Huge Grin on face*
Yeah, you need to pass a speech check with Opould to have him tell you the buyer's name (Inamorda) and you get more money than Opould offers.
Telling either you're keeping the package will have you fight Inamorda and two goons next time you head back to the Normandy.
@@georgyporgy777 It's pretty sweet
Another amusing one is:
1: Agree to smuggle for Opold
2: Get the package and return to him, tell him you're keeping the package
3: Return to the Docking bay, Inamorda (the krogan) and some goons will be itching for a fight.
4: Kill them and return to Opold. With Inamorda dead, he doesn't really care that much anymore and reopens trade with you.
5: At this point you still have the package and you can screw Opold over by turning it in to Anoleis.
It's beyond amusing how many variables Noveria has, it's an amazing part of the game.
@@ThaDudu what makes it even more funnier that after doing all that you can screw anoleis over to Gianna lol 😂
Waaaaat!?
Lorik Qui'in is funny. i love how he just doesn't get human idioms even 2 the point of confusingly poking fun at the default line 4 exiting a conversation. "let me go? do humans consider conversation a form on imprisonment? that would explain why so few are willing to sit and talk."
I liked Lorik too much, I could never rat him out. He was really nice and chilled out.
Ah Noveria. There's a reason to why it's my favourite mission in ME1. I loved the overall player freedom but also the fact that there were so many different places that you could visit during the mission, all interesting in their own ways.
I remember its also possible to finish the quest without even speaking to Anoleis once. Just go straight to Lorik and he'll give you the quest and at the end Anoleis really only meets Shepard as hes getting arrested lmao.
Yep, that's the way I naturally went about it a few days ago. I don't think I've ever interacted with him, even in my original renegade playthrough
I always do this
I just finished this game for the first time last month, i didnt even meet Anoleis. I was like who the fuck is this?
10:10 That “Why?” is amazing.
9:32 this is actually two options in one making it for a total of 6 different outcomes. If you choose the special renegade path as shown, Shepard will blackmail Anoleis himself for a pass and KEEP the evidence. This means that you can leave without giving the evidence to anyone (OR still give the evidence to Lorik)
After playing that mission for the first time... I'm still waiting for a perfect moments to quote Wrex in real life conversations, like
-Let's not start a fight.
-Why not? 🤨
Literally played dozens of times over the last decade, thought I’d seen all possible scenes and here you are proving me wrong 😂 really love the content - keep em coming!
"An option many of you haven't seen"
Me, always playing renegade/ neutral and giving Giana up: Wait she's in ME2?
I never knew Opold’s side quest was a solution to the garage pass problem. Played this trilogy so many times and I’m still learning new things about it.
Noveria is my favourite mission in ME1(even above virmire and ilos) and i wish we actually got some plot with Lorik in ME3. Instead we got mountains and snow on top of them and cerbresus and they called it Noveria..............
The textures and jaggies are really noticeable in ME1! Looking forward to seeing what the Legendary Edition brings.
Maybe it only on consoles, because I played on PC and they are not so bad.
@@niksargs Most modern graphics cards can actually upscale etc and remove them. They also tend to do that automatically. Benefits of PC
4K resolution and 60 fps, with additional improvements on the first Mass Effect
Actually, I was playing this game on my Xbone S yesterday (backwards compatibility FTW) and the graphics are A LOT better than this, must have been running on a potato to look "that bad"
@@AlexandreSantos-yv2tj
No, ME1 just has some really bad texture issues on PC no matter your settings. It's a known bug.
That JayZ bit had me rolling
The charisma speech options always crack me up, Meer and Hale always nail these
I’ve played the Trilogy since 2015 , did the whole thing over at least ten times, yet I only discover now that you can set Anoleis against Parasini and have them kill each other.
This really is a reminder of how great BioWare used to be, and how badly down the shitter they have gone in the past few years...
Yea Ubisoft and EA where the Kings of gaming industry.. now they are just moneymaking focused companies
I was curious about the outcome if you told the Salarian about Gianna, but I had ABSOLUTELY no idea this was going to end up like this ! XD
I never knew there were 5 outcomes, alwsys did the testify outcome.
I remember on my most recent playthrough I was trying to remember how to do the second half of the Noveria mission and I just stumbled through it thinking ‚wtf this definitely isn’t what I did last time‘
"Language, Miss." Is probably my favorite line of the series coming from male Shepard, perfect delivery 😭
Thank you for all your Mass Effect videos. Being a huge fan of the game, I found some secrets, but thanks to you, I'm planning my ultimate playthrough now.
Glad you like the vids!
I like how she’s whispering and Shepard basically broadcasts you said I should talk to Lorik Qu’in
Panasini was the first way out that I figured out and the only one I‘ve used since.
DAN "Well there is a 5th Option , I bet many of you haven't seen ..."
Me who hardly even Knew 2 Option... o.O BRING IT ON !!!!!!!!!! **Mind flies away**
Funnnnn fact: if you convince the Turian to testify with either speech check, you can talk to him again, ask a question, and then when asking about “something else” to pull you back into the main dialogue, you can re-attempt to force him to testify with the same speech checks. Do this over and over for infinite paragon or renegade early in ME1 and you essentially allow yourself to use whatever dialogue afterwards without fear of being paragon or renegade ENOUGH for some speech checks later on (of course assuming you leveled paragon or renegade)
This made me appreciate how much better the Legendary Edition looks haha
Honestly I don’t remember the OG game being so watered in its graphics
@@Mr.Rotmound Yeah I remember it looking like this before it loaded textures. Like, at the start of cutscenes. Not all the time.
Good video. Probably my favourite mission out of any RPG. It gets even more complex when you arrive at Peak 15.
I only recently discovered that you can cure the virus and get into a fight with the undercover Asari lady and I’m speaking as someone whose replayed this game countless times and has never seen that outcome.
The scope of choices and outcomes on Noveria is crazy.
When legendary edition drops, I really encourage people to mess around with that mission by save scumming. There’s a lot of possibilities.
As an Italian, I am so happy that they gave good lines to Gianna Parasini, the only (probably) Italian character in ME trilogy
But theres another typical Italian woman in Mass Effect that you can technically even make your companion, her name was Morinth, have you forgotten about her? You can even romance her! It works out similarly to how dating Italian women works out in real life too
She’s Italian? She looks pretty brown to be Italian.
@@Rodrigo15x there are Italians with darker skin and with lighter skin
Italian here too, too bad the name "Gianna" is mispronounced in English as "Jeeanna" (it's supposed to be 'Janna', in Italian "Gia-", "Ge-"and "Gio-" are pronounced like a 'J', and the pronunciation of the double N should be stretched a little bit).
@@matthewackermanaski9687 sadly, true 😅
With the fifth option you don't need to go see Lork again. You're left alone in the office with the two bodies. If you break into the vault at the back of the office you can steal the garage pass that's inside.
6:15 pure gold cause I do it every time I play this mission 😂😂
That “why” was so heartbreaking
After dozens of ME1 playthroughs, I never knew you can rat out the Hanar. I usually didn't even approach him. Even the one where Anoleios and Gianna shoot each other was hidden from me for a long time. We need more quests like this, with various ways how to complete them.
I tend to just ignore his request and get the licenses from him.
if i feel like joking around, i usually pick up that package and sell it straight to buyer, then go back to opold and tell him what i've done, to piss him off even more :D
...but if i'm playing with character that will get exported to me2 - i definitely buy off the licenses and, if shepard's level is already 57+ i go for package and bring it to anoleus, 'cuz that's the fastest way to obtain garage pass
The Mass Effect trilogy is my favorite game series ever. Ever. It really is. And, I still play it, nowadays, as part of my intense workouts 6 days a week (while I'm pounding it out on the elliptical). I am still...STILL...after all these years, finding new content, new scenes, new decision outcomes to this day. Amazing. Can't wait for the remaster. :-)
Wow thanks to CZcamsrs like you I keep discovering new things in Mass effect 1 I wasn't even aware there was five outcomes a shame that the rest of the games didn't have that many outcomes for a quest like the first one.
This quest is why Mass Effect 1 is my favorite in the series. The latter games are far more limited in scope and scale. They only really focus on the combat for the most part. This is the kind of direction the series should have retained and what it should resurrect in Mass Effect 4.
Agreed. Hell, even the sidequests in ME1 had multiple outcomes as well.
@@michaelburke7978 The only thing holding it back was technical issues and aiming both on and off foot. The Legendary edition is fixing both.
You can directly run to Benezia from the labs community room. Just kill the guards and walz direct into the lab where Benezia is.
I'm glad to see someone that really gets why Noveria was so great. The mission format in ME1 is a big part of the reason why the game is so good.
I always thought it was a mistake that they abandoned this kind of format in ME2 and ME3. I really wish they would bring it back in the next Mass Effect.
Funny enough, ME1 almost seems more similar to KOTOR than it does to ME2 and 3.
Noveria and the first visit to the Citadel are missions that always stood out to me because of their hub area structure and multiple paths to the same objective.
All while still keeping the hub area a "Combat Zone" in some parts.
Not almost, it *is*. Things changed drastically when they became part of EA and, of course, had to appeal to the lowest common denominator and become boring shooters with dialog trees.
I like most in your videos that you give a quick synopsis as a refresher to the who, what, and where. Makes the whole content so much more valuable, especially when it's been a while since the last playthrough, if any, so, well done!
Holy Shit the 5th option is one of the most renegade things ever
You missed out on one of the best renegade options where you can tell someone that Wrex will eat them if they don't comply.
So, I did the one where I ratted out Gianna, and immediately reset my save, I hated that outcome so much, and it was my first play through attempt, then I gave the evidence to the turian, after that I stopped playing ME, until I picked it back up and did the long espionage mission. I never knew I could rat out the jellyfish...
I didnt even know the first option existed before this video. I've been playing this game for years and it still amazes me
Big Dan you rock! I have a dozen or more play through and am on my 5 time through andromeda. And I have to admit I have never seen all these different versions of noveria. Much thanks and keep up the good work sir.
I mostly do the Lorik testify ending because of the extra Renegade/Paragon points you can get from repeating his conversation until one of the bars are filled. The Lorik Q'uin glitch
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite channel on the CZcams.
Your videos are so good, big fan here!
Thanks, much appreciated!
That last one is wild holy cow. I love it there but what Shepard would make that choice haha
MY Shepard!
It wouldn't be unusual for a Shepsrd to tell the administrator he is being investigated. We could assume he didn't know it would end in them both dying
A Shepard who got set off by the amount of disrespect, greed, and entitlement that was Noveria.
Not to mention they got in his way on a mission where galactic civilization was at stake.
If I recall, there is a glitch you can trigger with the Lorik talking. That glitch allows you to max out your Paragon/Renegade bars completely.
The ambience in Noveria was also fantastic
Just finished ME1:LE last night. It's my first time playing the game, and yeah, Noveria was definitely one of the best parts. I kept meaning to go back and try the other options to see what happened, but never did. Thanks for doing it for me ;) And yes, I did it the second way.
Important to anyone who gets to Noveria
When you play this mission DO NOT SAVE IN THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE ELEVATOR AND THE OFFICE THE ELEVATOR WILL GLITCH AND YOU’LL BE TRAPPED
I have to redo six systems after reloading an earlier save TT^TT
I like Lorik Qi'in and Gianna too much to screw them over like that, so I'm glad that this video exists to break down all of the possible outcomes. Still, I kind of wish missions like this featured one or two more (or different) characters that are less likable, but still interesting, so that I wouldn't feel too guilty for pursuing a more renegade path. There have been more than a few instances where the Renegade choice made me feel too guilty, so I reloaded a save.
Nunca me había puesto a pensar sobre las variadas formas de terminar la misión de Noveria
Estos videos son *muy* interesantes y siempre alegran mi día con Info curiosa sobre mi franquicia favorita :3
Sigue con el buen trabajo! 👍
The Way Lorik Qui'in asks "Why?" at 10:06 kind of breaks my heart a bit.
I will say I was always mesmerized by how many options you have for getting your garage pass. When I first played it, I figured it was just A. Paragon or B. Renegade. Then you see how there's much more than just one or the other. It's really cool how much of a difference these little routes have.
What blew me away on some of my recent play through a was how complex Peak 15 gets. There are so many outcomes to that section of the game. I only recently discovered that you can cure the virus for the plague and get into a fight with the undercover Asari lady.
The whole Noveria mission is BioWare at it’s best.
@@holup2691 simply put: noveria has almost more story-rich choice opportunities than all other main missions combined
@@daliothegamer There are a ton of ways to complete that whole quest line. I remember way back like 13 years ago. The first time playing the game. I just simply found a way around the whole thing by going to the hot labs first and then suddenly I was facing Benezia. Fantastic mission. Deserves a deep dive altogether. There is a plethora of ways to tackle it. Might actually surprise people.
@@holup2691 true... i had completed peek 15 in about 4 different ways... once, while playing pure renegade and not letting rachni queen away i also left hotlabs intact... by entering the train game gave me kind of warning about unfinished mission but let me return no normandy... maybe there's even an option to come back later to finish it off...
although i never really considered to re-tray such approach - playing this game as pure renegade just feels so wrong in many situations... :/
Shepard's "Shut your pie hole" kills me every time
Doing a replay and just found this channel while looking up mass effect vids. Big Dan you my dude now.
well I recently finished ME1 via the legendary edition and your bet was right, I did help giana as I thought it was the most interesting and it made the most sense to me, since in my playthrough, I was going for full paragon.
Noveria was one of my favorite areas in the entire series. I hope they can replicate that in future games.
"If i were a betting man...." absolutely. And Gianna turns up in ME2 too.
Parasini's voice is so nice. Loved her also when she was in me2 too.
Wow. First time I see new content from first game. Well done.
When I replayed ME1 in the legendary edition I did something different after getting to peak 15. I vividly remember burning a bunch of rachni and then butchering all the guards in the little sanctuary to get to benezia but then when I did it this most recent time I just took some back entrance through the caves to get to find her.
You can also choose option one after getting Qui'in's evidence but before giving it away to anyone, do the assignments on Peak 15, go back to Anoleis, let him pay you for your information about the situation there (without really telling him anything worthwhile) and help Gianna against Anoleis anyways. It is not really a sixth way to get the garage pass, since you get it basically the same way is in the first option, but you get out some extra credits out of the administrator before getting him arrested.
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Furthermore you can max out XPs by convincing Opold into telling you, who's the package for, than first talk to Anoleis (without telling him about the smuggling), talk to Gianna and do the whole Synthetic Inside quest until you convince Lorik to testify (it is really important that you do that *before* heading out to Peak 15, since he won't be there anymore afterwards) but DON'T speak to Gianna, then go back to Opold, tell him that you keep the package (you will receive the upgrade) and immediately after go to Anoleis and sell Opold out, show him the mod and convince him to keep it thereafter (so you will get the mod twice), you will get the garage pass and a reward (you can maximise it by with a renegade/paragon option). Leave for Peak 15 and when you come back, go to Anoleis, sell your testimony about what happened there (you can be very vague) and then talk to Gianna about the evidence and get him arrested.
Lorik - 'Let me go.'? Do Humans consider talking a form of punishment
You don't know how long I've been waiting to hear that line again as I couldn't workout how to get back to get that out of him again.
Nice vid - I thunbs upped at the JZ bit - bloody hilarious
I loved using a Renegade response to shake down Lorik to make him testify against Anoleis. XD
I really wish I could take *full* advantage of being a spectre. There could have been an even more direct route for renegade players. It would have been much faster and more convenient to just shoot Anoleis, and take a pass off of his body; when he doesn't give Commander Shepard clearance to Peak 15. Noveria is still in Council Space, and Anoleis is clearly slowing down Shepard's investigation; so killing him would be an acceptable route.
I love how Lorik is just sitting there sipping a martini as the two thorns in his side kill each other all because of a certain specter
EDI, play Gangstas Paradise
I was surprised at how fun this whole section of the game was. And it’s amazing, seeing this in the original game, on how good the remaster looks now in comparison. Game rocks either way, though.
"I can bludgeon pretty hard"... angles out, has with him the two biggest meatheads in the crew. Yep, I bought it.
I just hope there is a Madd effect multi-player game soon id love to play with you ! You bright back my love of mass effect =)
Mass effect 3 multilayer is still very alive at the moment, shame it's not coming to the legendary edition.
Was playing through this in LE and forgot how many ways there were to beat this portion. This stuff was def missing in the later games in the series.
10:08 “You….why?”
That was so sad :(
I am sorry Lorik. I will give you the evidence
"Ahh that fahking no'eastah I go'atta shovel my cah outta fahking five foot'a snow, kehd"
I was wondering if you had done one of these on Noveria already, and look at what popped up in my feed not even 12 hours later! Thanks for covering this, Big Dan!
lorik quin is like a wholesome grandpa using technology (like a keyboard or e-mails,,) for the first time "if you must come back and, what is it, upset the fruit cart.." ^^ he's one of my favourite turians for sure
I always help Internal Affairs. I had no idea the Hannar offered the fastest way to get the garage pass :o
I also didn't know about the fifth option. I always follow the Paragon path. If I accidentally get Renegade points, I reload a previous save file, even if it means having to complete half the mission or all of it.
4:43 damn, I always went that route not knowing there where other ways. And I have played the game a million times. Which is why, I was surprised when I saw the title of the video, like I had completely forgotten this quest existed.
I forgot to take Liara to Peak 15 with me like an absolute idiot, I opened the door and saw Benezia before I realized I left her on the Normandy. So I literally turned around, drove the Mako all the way back to Port Hanshan and picked her up
Here's one: can you recruit Wrex after Virmire?
Pretty sure you can, he'll still be waiting on the citadel for you.
Yeah, though if you're doing that to keep from shooting him, just be sure to find his family armor on Tuntau before doing Virmire. It bypasses the need for a speech check entirely, he'll back down on his own.
6:15 I love how most of Big Dan's content is mostly just informational then he just randomly throws memes like these in it's hilarious and always refreshing when it happens.
With all the new games coming out this year I can easily say Mass effect Legendary edition is my most anticipated game.
Noveria was my favorite planet in ME1 because of the freedom. It made the game feel more real.
I am in the same part of the country! I know Nor'easter storms, too. LOL I can see why you picked this mission, although I prefer the driving in the Legendary Edition. I'll be checking out your ME vids, too. Nice review.
The gangster move where shots are fired in the office is also a good way to collect some Renegade Points without investing Skill Points to Intimidate.
I know the point of Mass Effect is to play the Trilogy, but I am currently working on my Super Shepard in Mass Effect 1. Speedrun the game twice: first run going Full Renegade and using the Space Monkey Glitch, then use the Lorik Qui'in glitch in the second speedrun (having gained enough Points to persuade him), then repeat this for a third and final Save to migrate to ME2. The goal from this is to max out my Charm/Intimidate and invest the Skill Points to have stronger abilities. It's meta-gaming at its finest!
I also love that you get the infinite speech points there