Dark Core Pro vs Naga Pro vs G604 | The Search for Perfect MMO Mouse
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
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Logitech G604: geni.us/VAS9K
0:00 - Intro
2:08 - Logitech G604
5:50 - Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE
11:05 - Razer Naga Pro
15:48 - Final Thoughts
In search of a good MMO mouse, I've narrowed my options down to these three mice. Each one has it's strengths and weaknesses and I explore some of those things in this video. There are a lot of "MMO" mice out there but I find them all lacking in one way or another and these three mice fit me better than those so called MMO mice.
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Just wanted point out if it wasn't clear but there's a lot of "MMO" mice out there but more buttons isn't always better IMO. That disqualified the G600, Scimitar and other 12 button mice. Those mice don't have forward and backwards buttons and web browsing using remapped forward and backwards buttons on one of the 12 small buttons just wasn't going to fly. 6 buttons was plenty for me and forward & backwards using button 4 and 6 still feels really comfortable.
I have the G600, awesome mouse. It's ruined me with the ring click which is hard to live without. For this mouse, web browsing left and right is done by tilt the scroll wheel left or right (no need to remap anything) :)
@@xXCorruptedzXx ohhh a ring click could be useful. That mouse is cheap enough it might be worth picking up just to use for a few weeks. Too bad it’s a very old mouse and they don’t have an updated wireless version.
I use a G600 and I just have forward/back on tilt wheel and use (need, even) all 12 buttons in final fantasy 14 (plus I bind tilt wheel in game as well)
you have to get used to it but once you spend a few weeks building muscle memory it's amazing
I had a g600 and it felt like a steaming turd compared to the rest. There's a reason it's $30 and feels worth even less. The rubbery side buttons are hard to distinguish from one another and it's just an overall piece of crap. Maybe if I hadn't used far superior ones first I would've loved it.
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i'm so bummed out that G604 was discontinued... I snagged 3 of them when they were 50 bucks few years ago, but i'm down to my last one.
I am a palm gripper. How comfortable is the naga pro for palm grippers compared to the g604?
What game was shown?? Didn’t “inspect” but thought was EverQuest, said Nvm but swear looked soo familiar… haven’t been with the MMO scene in quite some time
I see you have the same thoughts and requirement on the mice as I have. In the office I am still using my old MX1100, resurrected with new switches, just because I cannot find more comfy mouse for my palm grip. It has fewer buttons, so I in some apps I use scroll tilt as additional buttons. For some time it was fine. But G604 has just more thumb buttons and connects to two devices (BT + 2.4G). Battery life is also quite good. The downside is lack of pinky rest and the switches which already have double click issue.
MX Master series was just too heavy for me. With quite low DPI there was a need to lift it quite often and with slick right side it felt like slipping from my grip. Also the side scroll up till v3 was horribly placed.
Naga v2 Pro seems like a perfect combination and something worth trying. If only it wasn't so expensive, it would be my first non-Logitech mouse since like 2008.
the original naga trinity had a problem with the side panel disconnecting randomly. even if its only one disconnect per hour for 5 seconds that's too much for mythic raiding. they said they were never planning to make a normal naga again. the trinity was quickly taken off the market and re released at a cheaper price as if nothing happened. then they made the naga x which is amazing. the weight difference is big to me. the reason to use the two button side panel on the naga is just for people who use the naga all day as their main mouse but wanna hop on a shooter and keep the same mouse shape they are so used to. while also using different muscle memory with a different side panel or if you want to grip the mouse a bit different with more pressure on the tip of the thumb
My dock stopped charging, I sent the mouse to warranty for an unrelated thing, they sent me a new one that charged, so if your dock stops charging it might be the mouse, maybe I should've scrubbed it's contacts or something
Can i remap the dpi keys on the corsair the way i do on the logi hero?
I am currently using the Logitech G600 & the only issue I've been having [World of Warcraft] is the mice would bug from time to time where all my key-binds are useless. For example lets say I have a key bound to F4 and during those times when things go wrong as I press the button both F4 and whatever I have assign to "4" would also happen. Don't know if it was a software issue or maybe I dropped the mice and I messed things up inside. But this is happening even on my 3rd mice I've bought throughout the years. So can I have your opinion....I like the 12-side button for gaming so of the two [NPro vs G600] which would you prefer.
Try to put it your bind on for example-U have similar problem with F123 binds, when I change for U/J/K/L for example everything went back to normal. Maybe the windows fighting with cos F1/F2 are for some abilities in windows.
Didn't seem to mention it in the video but which mouse has the best feeling side buttons?
I only know about the Naga Pro. I don't know if it was just my unit but the mouse sounded exactly like the old trackball mice when you even gently rested your hands on the finger buttons. In terms of the side buttons, they don't feel premium: they're clicky and fast to actuate but are smooth plastic instead of textured.
The naga side buttons are 10x better than the Logitech g600, which are rubbery, squishy and hard to tell apart and click one without clicking another.
How about battery life?
I went through 3 Naga Pros due to button defects with the side panel.. I am very careful and use it for work, not games. Went got g604 and while I prefer the shape, I pray it doesn't double click. Also the Razer had better build quality.
I went with the g604, and mine double clicks ... :/
My 604 had an inconsistent scroll wheel, sometimes you wouldn't be able to tell if you clicked or not and also it would sometimes just not click.
I have a 2014 naga, bought in 2014. Playing at least 5+ hours most of the days like a true degen and the mouse is still working perfectly.
My blackwidow 2014, ouroboros, and kraken pro usb all from 2014 still working perfect. My 2022 viper on the other hand.... not so much.@thierryfaquet7405
How bout a sidplate with 9 buttons, now there's an idea!!! Then there wouldn't be a 4th rear row to get confused about! It would then truly cater to EVERY genre ;)
My choice G604, I bought it recently. I hope this mouse help me a lot in my workflow as an editor and music producer :)
wish there was more 12 button mice g600 is logitechs only 12 buttons mice i think but barely any store sells them and the naga feels very cheap like the death adder v2 it broke after 6 months and the scimitar has a super weird plastic
We think alike, man! I've been using a G700s for years, and a G700 before that. I bought a G604 to replace it, but I HATE the new G Hub software so much that I ordered a Naga Pro to try out and see if that suits me better. And I agree, the G604 could really use a place to rest the 4th and 5th fingers. The mouse begs to be held in a palm grip, but then your fingers end up dragging or cramping up.
Currently searching for a wider mouse. A pinky rest sounds amazing. I really also need remap for every button
@@fullmetalflix5195 I ended up sticking with the Logitech G604 and returning the Razer Naga Pro. My hand has just kind of learned how to hold it. My pinky does touch my mousepad a lot, but it's rarely an annoyance. Just FYI. And the G604 lets you remap everything except for two buttons on top the mouse: one is not actually a button but rather a physical switch that changes between free-scroll and scrolling with detents; the other button is a dedicated mode toggle button that swaps the mouse between standard Bluetooth connectivity and proprietary low-lag wireless connection with a USB dongle. Still hate the software, but I like the mouse quite a bit.
@@Gigabitz any issues so far? especially the double-click
Does Naga 2 Pro have a free-spin scroll mode like Logitech's? Or is it just smooth scroll?
@@Crosyphi've been using G604 for 1.5 years so far and no issue whatsoever (no double clicking or side button malfunction issues) but i'm a fingertip gripper so pinky rest doesn't mean much to me. the real issue now is that G604 is so damn hard to find. i've been looking for it for a while because i want a second MMO mouse but i might have to buy Naga Pro or Naga v2 Hyperseed instead.
The optical switches pulled me to buy the Razer Naga Pro after using a Logitech G903 and suffering with double clicking issues for years, add to that an awful G-Hub software. Synapse still has some issues but when you already mapped everything and saved 5 profiles to the mouse on-board memory, then you can just ditch synapse and never use it again (until of course Razer fixes it).
How well has it held up? Any double clicking or other issues?
@@JoyTuub For the Naga Pro? It's still going great, my only issue right now is the randomness of the contacts working when charging it using the Razer dock I bought separately. Never had double clicking issues.
@@Recsy that is unfortunate to hear about the charging port. Thanks for replying back, I appreciate the input!
@@JoyTuub Yeah the charging dock wasn't a part of the package anyway, it's just a plus to have. But would have been great if it works instantly and not re-seating it multiple times before it charges hehehe
The g604 for new world has been useful
I always default to a palm grip, which you described perfectly where your pinky tends to drag on the mouse pad. I bought a Dark Core Pro which has a lip on the pinky side which allows my pinky to rest on that surface and not drag on the mouse pad. It has become my favorite mouse of all time for that simple feature and whenever I look at another mouse first thing I think about before replacing is my pinky going to drag on the mousepad.
The G604 is what completely broke my trust in Logitech. I had to RMA my first unit just one week before the warranty as the mouse developed a bad double clicking issue which made it absolutely unusable and now 2 years later the replacement has developed the exact same issue, and the replacement cant be replaced any further as the original warranty is no longer valid. Given that i spend close to 80 bucks for it, it seems like such a waste. This one bad is enough to outweigh any of the good that the mouse has in my opinion, and this is a common issue because the engineers at Logitech didn't check the voltages of the switches, so all G604 made with these switches WILL 100 PERCENT FAIL within a few years. Last time I'm buying logitech
its a no brainer.. logitech has insane battery life.. razer dies in 40 hours? also.. razer synapse BS is the worst, ill never deal with it again.. all i need is 3 buttons.. modifier for ctrl/alt/shift for mmos
Show the product!! No visual/close up of the product that you are taking about
Corsair software icue is really trash. With msi center, if you want to choose user scenerio, computer restarting or pc crash. And a icue software macro option is really ver hard for use. Logitech or Razers are best choose option for mouse. But for this time, logictech s side macro buttons are little far for small hands, short fingers. Today i checked razer s side macro buttons and really very good and near for small or medium hands.
He said "very big and very wide". 😂😂😂
oof no g600 added
for mmo naga and a razer tartarus are the only way to play. if you have the income do yourself a favor and consolidate into razer so u get rid of the software clutter and fall in love with the games you already play all over again.
I bought 4 boxes with g700 so I can have it covered for the future. Nothing better than g700 for mmo's - the third button under ring finger is just too good.
Corsair rgb is having a seizure :D
А вот честный детальный обзор от владельца этой мыши после 1 года и 4 месяцев владения czcams.com/video/yPWQ7_RSCzg/video.html
Naga Pro is the best
Logitech sucks, every single mouse I've bought ever since the G700 has the Omrom button Switches die out after 2 years of usage, after that no matter how much would you get into the switch metal plate to tweak it up it'll eventually just render unusable this wasn't the case years before, Logitech used to be reliable on durability, recently my G604 died of the same problem after I purchased it early 2021, I'm done with that fucking brand
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Buttons ;'j
I have used all mice and different mice from different venders. Honestly I love the Corsair and the Naga pro, however ... I find the Naga pro is just a little more versatile. I have 3 mice in one it's comfortable and the weight feels natural. I recommend to anyone new to the mouse race to pick up one. With that in mind if you find you really only need a few buttons at your disposal then the Corsair wins in that area. The minor scroll wheel but for me is so marginal it could be tolerated but you'd have to weigh the odds. I've never liked the program for Logitech so I just can't offer any personal opinions, I used it once, hated it and moved on with my life. To each their own.
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If you wait till black Friday you can pick up the Naga pro and the charge dock for less than the Naga pro original price, if that helps make you're decision easier. I like having all the options all in one mouse. The dedicated DPI buttons on top can be remapped. Mine are remapped to open my map and auto run. I use the 6 on the side which do my alt, shift, CTL, alt+shift, alt+ CTL and shift + CTL. With my 1-6 hand stretch gives me 36 comfortable buttons and I tank or heal away. I like the form factor for the Naga pro. (The Corsair is comfortable too I prefer the razer interface).
That's just my slice, use what you like and have fun.