Regards from Serbia, I just bought V4 2018 from local Ducati dealer, it was demo bike, and I am waiting for the better weather conditions to ride. Yours review is very usefull and honest. In my garage I have also ducati supersport s 2017 and it is great bike, easy to ride and also attractive. With all the flaws that Ducati has, it is a unique, immediately recognizable and has its own personality.
I love my V4s, as you said to remove the passenger left peg I damaged the screw and hat to take it to the dealer for service and ask them to please remove it, the mirrors are really a pain in the .... specially bc are very long and dont fold, for me you missed the engine heats and no gas gauge, the rest is a dream bike!!!
Stock mirrors were replaced with bar ends. Stock were nearly useless anyway. Agree with your discussion points and would add; 1. Heat, pumps heat to your nether regions (inner thighs) not good for San Diego where I live. 2. Kickstand bobbin, nearly impossible to find almost always requires you to look down to locate it. On the good side I really like the self-cancelling turn signals. Very convenient. Good review.
Garey Cooper thanks for watching agree with the above I mentioned the side stand in my initial review czcams.com/video/iLgepuvxci4/video.html the heat is quite a nice thing here in the UK where its freezing haha don’t forget to subscribe 😬
Good vids . I have a 2019, love it.did buy the 2020 rear linkage and shock spring and drop the forks through the yokes(4mm) to convert to 2020 geometry. helps the bike greatly on corner exit, is relatively cheap and simple to do
I don’t know, I like the 2018-19 model over the 2020 version. 2020 looks like a budget V4R but I hate how they made the V2 look like the 2018-19 V4 personally 😑 that made me upset with my V4S lol
I broke my mirror twice! SOB! Fortunately, the second time broke in such a way that allowed me to super glue it and I wrapped it with some heavy duty Gorilla tape. 😎 I have the 1st year production model V4, and there have been more than a dozen Ducati recalls on it thus far. What is that all about???
Dont be upset i have a 20 V4S and the previous 18 and 19 i find to be more visually stunning and beautiful than the 20. Add to that the head mitigation they did for the 20 actually made it WORSE. So be happy you have a prettier, cooler, and more manic version which id prefer. I bought the 20 never having rode it only buying it because of those heat mitigation fixes they did and i actually like the wings. Low and behold when i bought it and rode it, i was FUCKING HOTTTT! Seriously hot man so hot i actually had to stop and get off because it was burning my skin. When i took my moto jeans off my legs were bright red matching the color of the bike. Add to that i get tapped out on power because they dummed down the throttle. Just be happy you got the better end of that stick.
I have a v4s. Totally agree with your points. Ducati bring out new models far to quickly. I had an 1098 and they brought out the 1198 way to quick. Still cant believe for the price there's no fuel gauge!
Thanks for watching, its frustrating - I realise they need to sell bikes but potentially at the cost of retaining their existing customers. Perhaps a 2019 - 2020 upgrade kit could come out which includes the new fairings and wings. Then again it would probably cost thousands. We love the bike, just silly things let the whole experience down.
My mirror also broke, i agree with black trim texture. Hard to clean. The last thing is almost no clear coat and tank plus plastics scratch too easily. Im going to use ceramic coating and clear wrap
Hi, do you know what I fully agree about the rear wheel nut. Both my Diavel and Panigale 1199 are exactly the same, even my MV F4 which has a right handed thread. The bloody nut can cause wars trying to get the things of, extension bars break or even bend😳 How the hell do the become so tight even though they are not torqued up that tight. I invested in a 550lbs torque gun on a 50ltr compressor. Now that moves the nut in an instant. So no more large 55mm socket falling onto your wheel lip 😭
Wife opened car door and tagged mirror. Broke right in half. 257$. Have issues starting on occasion and if you park in garage after a good ride the garage fills with fuel fumes and horrible odor.
I love my S only thing I found is the tank starts to scratch easily were ther inner thigh sits , RG racing protector installed but they need better adhesive. 2nd the cluster screen is easy to scratch. Need to put a p rft protector on it. Other than thst it awsome.
I have a 2015 ducati panigale r. Figure it's already depreciated a bit. The rear wheel nut is bad enough the mechanic at the shop slipped and nicked the wheel. Not happy about that.
Drawbacks of my panigale v4s are: 1- this bike has no anti stoppie system, it has no fuel gauge and did stop in middle of the road with me as well with my coowners, in summer it’s like a dragon(dealer says temp is normal on it) so it is useless in the summer, lastly seat must me less hard
I've just traded my beloved 1198 for a 2018 V4S with very low milage,on my first ride,3 miles into it,most of which was 30mph town traffic,it stranded me at the road side,it's back at the dealer now,I've been riding on the road since I was 17 years old in 1992,125 and upwards,I've had many bikes and the only time I've been stranded at the road side was on a 1990 ZX10 that had exploded it's engine,(it did have 35,000 miles on it),and I've ridden "fragile" two strokes KR1,KR1S,RGV 250(2),RG500,RD350YVPS(2),NS400,TZR 250,TDR250,none of those broke down!
@@letsreviewit8925 seems to be some electronic sensor related mayhem,all the warning lights,sidestand warning misreading,not 100% sure yet,the kind of thing that would have been expected on an early 80's Italian bike,glad it's not my first Ducati,I'd have been turning Japanese again very promptly.
OMG MY MIRROR BROKE TOO!!!! 2 days after taking home from the dealer! 2020 V4S and they almost made me pay for it but finally they did cover it. It was missing a bolt on the lower fairing and they did make me pay 5.43 for a new bolt. Bastards. And everything you spoke about is TRUUUUUE! Dont be fooled by Ducati telling you the 2020 is not as hot as the previous. Its not. I tested the 18 and 19 and it would only cook you at a stop. The 20 is ok at a stop now, but it will cook you on the fly. Meaning...the faster you ride the hotter it gets spitting hotter and hotter air on your legs. So much so i had to buy some heat fabric and sewed it into my moto jeans. That only worked 50% so i add to that putting on work out tights under my moto jeans and thats good. You can feel the heat but its not intolerable. Just there. Lastly they dumbed down the throttle for the 20 to make it "more accessible to more riders" What BS. OK if your not a balls to the wall rider like me, who bolts through traffic at 180, does track days, bla bla bla you probably wont be upset. But i actually liked that manic nature of the 18 and 19 and those were NON S! I only bought the 20 because of the heat mitigation they did which honestly made it worse add to that if your like me you find yourself tapped out on throttle just clicking it for more...AGH. So i actually love the bike but there are some major issues and like you say i paid 28k for this thing, thats a lot of bull shit to sweep under the rug for 28k I miss my 18 Aprilia RSV4 and frankly should have waited for the 20 RSV4 1100 Factory. What ever. It is what it is. A ferociously hot and fast steed deep with "issues" that amount to a lot of character imbued to it. And yea its full of character, and still its the most fun to get on of all the bikes ive owned. Sure it has issues but the smiles per mile (yea i hate that phrase too but its true) are the most of any machine ive been on. Why i dunno maybe its because of all that bs i dunno but its an adventure getting on it like if it were a real dragon. Ive named him "FireBall"
Haha, I’ve purchased some Kevlar materials and plan to add as additional layer to riding jeans. I will also install carbon fiber frame covers. In 25C weather condition, the heat is not intolerable.
1 - Mirror 2 - kick stand at awkward placement and too short 3 - too hot under seat on traffic 4 - No Aftermarket Fairing Slider that not mount on the magnesium engine case 5 - Desmo Tax is insane 😱🤦🏻♂️ 6 - Batteries life is short 7 - Low mpg range is ok but without fuel gauge is annoying 8 - New models out every 6 months and depreciation drop faster than fly But the looks , ride and power is amazing and no other bikes feel same as V4
Nope, russian roulette isn't the sensible option. Peogeot 208 is far better. Cost around the same as the ducati. But has Five seater. Looks great, weather protection crash resistants. And every car owner doesn't try to kill you all the time.
Im ok just got a broken leg I was sent flying after car hit the rear the driver apologized to me ended up on the pavement where a by stander called a ambulance just in time, now just go to pay my insurance
Regards from Serbia, I just bought V4 2018 from local Ducati dealer, it was demo bike, and I am waiting for the better weather conditions to ride. Yours review is very usefull and honest. In my garage I have also ducati supersport s 2017 and it is great bike, easy to ride and also attractive. With all the flaws that Ducati has, it is a unique, immediately recognizable and has its own personality.
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I love my V4s, as you said to remove the passenger left peg I damaged the screw and hat to take it to the dealer for service and ask them to please remove it, the mirrors are really a pain in the .... specially bc are very long and dont fold, for me you missed the engine heats and no gas gauge, the rest is a dream bike!!!
Stock mirrors were replaced with bar ends. Stock were nearly useless anyway. Agree with your discussion points and would add;
1. Heat, pumps heat to your nether regions (inner thighs) not good for San Diego where I live.
2. Kickstand bobbin, nearly impossible to find almost always requires you to look down to locate it.
On the good side I really like the self-cancelling turn signals. Very convenient.
Good review.
Garey Cooper thanks for watching agree with the above I mentioned the side stand in my initial review czcams.com/video/iLgepuvxci4/video.html the heat is quite a nice thing here in the UK where its freezing haha don’t forget to subscribe 😬
Good vids .
I have a 2019, love it.did buy the 2020 rear linkage and shock spring and drop the forks through the yokes(4mm) to convert to 2020 geometry.
helps the bike greatly on corner exit, is relatively cheap and simple to do
i broke my mirror too. and yeah the new design is a kick in the balls to the current owners 🤦🏻♂️
wandering_mallu did you manage to replace it for less than £157? 😣
I don’t know, I like the 2018-19 model over the 2020 version. 2020 looks like a budget V4R but I hate how they made the V2 look like the 2018-19 V4 personally 😑 that made me upset with my V4S lol
I broke my mirror twice! SOB! Fortunately, the second time broke in such a way that allowed me to super glue it and I wrapped it with some heavy duty Gorilla tape. 😎 I have the 1st year production model V4, and there have been more than a dozen Ducati recalls on it thus far. What is that all about???
Machane,..
Dont be upset i have a 20 V4S and the previous 18 and 19 i find to be more visually stunning and beautiful than the 20. Add to that the head mitigation they did for the 20 actually made it WORSE. So be happy you have a prettier, cooler, and more manic version which id prefer. I bought the 20 never having rode it only buying it because of those heat mitigation fixes they did and i actually like the wings. Low and behold when i bought it and rode it, i was FUCKING HOTTTT! Seriously hot man so hot i actually had to stop and get off because it was burning my skin. When i took my moto jeans off my legs were bright red matching the color of the bike. Add to that i get tapped out on power because they dummed down the throttle. Just be happy you got the better end of that stick.
I have a v4s. Totally agree with your points. Ducati bring out new models far to quickly. I had an 1098 and they brought out the 1198 way to quick. Still cant believe for the price there's no fuel gauge!
Thanks for watching, its frustrating - I realise they need to sell bikes but potentially at the cost of retaining their existing customers. Perhaps a 2019 - 2020 upgrade kit could come out which includes the new fairings and wings. Then again it would probably cost thousands. We love the bike, just silly things let the whole experience down.
My mirror also broke, i agree with black trim texture. Hard to clean. The last thing is almost no clear coat and tank plus plastics scratch too easily. Im going to use ceramic coating and clear wrap
steve ricci thanks for watching don’t forget to subscribe 👌
Hi, do you know what I fully agree about the rear wheel nut. Both my Diavel and Panigale 1199 are exactly the same, even my MV F4 which has a right handed thread. The bloody nut can cause wars trying to get the things of, extension bars break or even bend😳
How the hell do the become so tight even though they are not torqued up that tight.
I invested in a 550lbs torque gun on a 50ltr compressor. Now that moves the nut in an instant. So no more large 55mm socket falling onto your wheel lip 😭
It's the exact same spindle and nut as on the 1198 family as well.
Wife opened car door and tagged mirror. Broke right in half. 257$. Have issues starting on occasion and if you park in garage after a good ride the garage fills with fuel fumes and horrible odor.
PR Panigale V4S interesting and frustrating but would you trade it in for something else?
I love my S only thing I found is the tank starts to scratch easily were ther inner thigh sits , RG racing protector installed but they need better adhesive. 2nd the cluster screen is easy to scratch. Need to put a p rft protector on it. Other than thst it awsome.
stevejill91 definitely agree regarding the cluster it’s a shame that silly things let it down but I still love it
I have a 2015 ducati panigale r. Figure it's already depreciated a bit. The rear wheel nut is bad enough the mechanic at the shop slipped and nicked the wheel. Not happy about that.
Drawbacks of my panigale v4s are: 1- this bike has no anti stoppie system, it has no fuel gauge and did stop in middle of the road with me as well with my coowners, in summer it’s like a dragon(dealer says temp is normal on it) so it is useless in the summer, lastly seat must me less hard
qusay alkhalili thanks for your feedback we definitely agree about the temperature the bike does get hot. Don’t forget to subscribe 😬
I've just traded my beloved 1198 for a 2018 V4S with very low milage,on my first ride,3 miles into it,most of which was 30mph town traffic,it stranded me at the road side,it's back at the dealer now,I've been riding on the road since I was 17 years old in 1992,125 and upwards,I've had many bikes and the only time I've been stranded at the road side was on a 1990 ZX10 that had exploded it's engine,(it did have 35,000 miles on it),and I've ridden "fragile" two strokes KR1,KR1S,RGV 250(2),RG500,RD350YVPS(2),NS400,TZR 250,TDR250,none of those broke down!
Whats wrong with it?
@@letsreviewit8925 seems to be some electronic sensor related mayhem,all the warning lights,sidestand warning misreading,not 100% sure yet,the kind of thing that would have been expected on an early 80's Italian bike,glad it's not my first Ducati,I'd have been turning Japanese again very promptly.
That sounds very much like a battery problem I’ve seen that on lots of Aprilia’s
@@letsreviewit8925 the dealers fixing it under wsrranty,they're blaming sensors after they plugged in the fault reader, well see.
Used bike, unknown history.. common with EVERY BRAND.
To buy a new sports bike and not be aware that the resale value plummets straight out the show room floor is a little silly.
I say just enjoy!
OMG MY MIRROR BROKE TOO!!!! 2 days after taking home from the dealer! 2020 V4S and they almost made me pay for it but finally they did cover it. It was missing a bolt on the lower fairing and they did make me pay 5.43 for a new bolt. Bastards. And everything you spoke about is TRUUUUUE! Dont be fooled by Ducati telling you the 2020 is not as hot as the previous. Its not. I tested the 18 and 19 and it would only cook you at a stop. The 20 is ok at a stop now, but it will cook you on the fly. Meaning...the faster you ride the hotter it gets spitting hotter and hotter air on your legs. So much so i had to buy some heat fabric and sewed it into my moto jeans. That only worked 50% so i add to that putting on work out tights under my moto jeans and thats good. You can feel the heat but its not intolerable. Just there. Lastly they dumbed down the throttle for the 20 to make it "more accessible to more riders" What BS. OK if your not a balls to the wall rider like me, who bolts through traffic at 180, does track days, bla bla bla you probably wont be upset. But i actually liked that manic nature of the 18 and 19 and those were NON S! I only bought the 20 because of the heat mitigation they did which honestly made it worse add to that if your like me you find yourself tapped out on throttle just clicking it for more...AGH. So i actually love the bike but there are some major issues and like you say i paid 28k for this thing, thats a lot of bull shit to sweep under the rug for 28k I miss my 18 Aprilia RSV4 and frankly should have waited for the 20 RSV4 1100 Factory. What ever. It is what it is. A ferociously hot and fast steed deep with "issues" that amount to a lot of character imbued to it. And yea its full of character, and still its the most fun to get on of all the bikes ive owned. Sure it has issues but the smiles per mile (yea i hate that phrase too but its true) are the most of any machine ive been on. Why i dunno maybe its because of all that bs i dunno but its an adventure getting on it like if it were a real dragon. Ive named him "FireBall"
Haha, I’ve purchased some Kevlar materials and plan to add as additional layer to riding jeans. I will also install carbon fiber frame covers. In 25C weather condition, the heat is not intolerable.
The 2019 looks so much slimmer than the 2020.
Very good info my friend. Great job.
1 - Mirror
2 - kick stand at awkward placement and too short
3 - too hot under seat on traffic
4 - No Aftermarket Fairing Slider that not mount on the magnesium engine case
5 - Desmo Tax is insane 😱🤦🏻♂️
6 - Batteries life is short
7 - Low mpg range is ok but without fuel gauge is annoying
8 - New models out every 6 months and depreciation drop faster than fly
But the looks , ride and power is amazing and no other bikes feel same as V4
S C thanks for watching and your comments agree with you on all of them but it’s still a special bike 😀 don’t forget to subscribe
Same issue with V2 - mirrors are non-folding and extremely brittle.
If you paid for the bike, why do you have to give it back?
is the first clip in salcey forest?
Ramon Santiago it’s an undisclosed private airfield 😉
@@letsreviewit8925 haha!
Nope, russian roulette isn't the sensible option. Peogeot 208 is far better. Cost around the same as the ducati. But has Five seater. Looks great, weather protection crash resistants. And every car owner doesn't try to kill you all the time.
I love Ducatis! Nice bike!
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I have a zx10r se its the only bike ive owned and can not fault
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My Ducati V4 got rear ended by overspeeding car back is toataled and It will cost a lot to repair
Avion Dev12 hope you get it sorted soon were you ok?
Im ok just got a broken leg I was sent flying after car hit the rear the driver apologized to me ended up on the pavement where a by stander called a ambulance just in time, now just go to pay my insurance