WHY IS THERE MOLD IN THE WALK IN COOLER?
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2024
- The customer was wondering why there was mold in the walk in cooler and why after he cleaned it off it just came back... The equipment was oversized and did not have long enough run times...
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This video threw me off without Sporlan. Where's the quality, integrity, and tradition?? 😆
Gone since COVID
@@Miketime969 They were literally the sponsor card last video, saying they're "gone since covid" is wild. He just has 2 different sponsors that he works with because he enjoys their products.
@@Travoz787 you missed the context of it completely . It was a joke because everything has got so shitty since Covid and cost cutting
@Miketime969 ahhh makes sense, took you seriously. However, Sporlan would never do that to us with their quality, integrity, and tradition.
@@Travoz787 their accounting department probably would
That Heatcraft sponsor card always throws me off 😂
That’s a cute little Evap.
Really like the controller outside and the fact that the customer is going with the network feature.
That's just the cutest little evaporator.
Ha ha
Got a notification for this video, then realized there were several new ones tonight, guess I'm going to bed late lol
Ha ha yeah these are all my videos for the next few weeks because I will be traveling to Ahr and the Symposium
These are my favourite vidoes Freezer, Cooler and A/C installs, i learn so much from these videos 😊❤ thanks chris, I am only 12 but Its my dream to be a HVAC technician like you!
That is an adorably tiny evaporator.
Edit: Coming back to the multi-system card. Another big selling point is that it allows very easy setup via internet-controlled monitoring systems in the future. Pop in an Ethernet cable and boom, it's hooked up to the monitoring system. Could even do a really simple alert-based system, text all the managers with the error code and current system temps. They will know immediately if there's an issue, rather than finding out 8 or so hours later when the ice cream is liquid.
Yeah you could. You could also not do that and avoid giving the IT a headache in regards to network security. Only put things into a network if you absolutely need to. Less is more, don't need the beer getting warm over some idiot downloading malware to the network :)
@@Powertampa That's why I prefer that IoT stuff run through its own dedicated gateway with no contact with normal network traffic. Preferably without the ability for anything outside to reach in, just it using a provider gateway to send emails or texts
@@Powertampa Better idea is to, in advance, talk to the IT department and get their preference ahead of installation. A lot of teams are happy to get that sort of monitoring set up if the location would benefit from it, if they know well in advance: (NetSec might want it VLAN'd off to isolate its access, get a low voltage tech to run an ethernet drop to hardwire it, etc.,), it just requires communication with the other team ahead of time.
@@Powertampa As long as you're only talking about outbound alerts and data reporting it's fine. Typically something like MQTT on the backend, feeding into a time series database and alerting system (e.g. PagerDuty). You wouldn't be giving this thing its own internet-facing IP address. My day job is doing security assessments on industrial control gear on stuff way higher price & risk than this, and lots of outbound telemetry is absolutely the norm these days. And the remote management stuff works the same way - the device sends outbound polls to a cloud service or does an outbound websocket connection (over TLS) for push messages, and it's all managed via that.
Never seen an intelligen system installed like that. Didnt even know it was a thing. Much bigger fan of the control board being outside of the box. Have had nothing but problems with Russell's smart evaporaters constantly going through boards and i feel the moisture from the box has something todo with it
All they have to do is conformal coating placed in the board to waterproof it. They won't do it.
PCB designer here. From what I saw on in the video, it looks like those boards have a thick conformal coating on them to prevent moisture from killing them, so I'd be surprised at it dying due to moisture. Maybe moisture buildup in the connectors, but that's pretty rare on vertically aligned boards. Should be fine here. Much more likely causes of failure are thermal cycling and bad power feeds.
The argument in favor for the wifi card would be Email notifications when there are problems, but the product is not yet spoiled.
Also interesting that that California mandates more efficient fans and blades, but doesn't mandate hot gas defrost (which probably would be better for your customers as it should be more powerful).
Definitely a neat tool from Heatcraft for idiots like me. Good video Chris.
Keep up the Strong 💪 Efforts, Chris. 👍🙏
If people are worried about controllers inside coolers, they may not be aware of the IPX rating system. If you really want overkill, you can always install a heater and dessicant dryer inside the enclosure.
Thank you for walking through this
This education will be forever in my pocket ❤
Awesome setup on wifi I love when you can use wifi set up on HVACR equipment. Great job Chris.
I like that tip of breaking the line set. What i learned to do is p press the burr in with needle nose pliers. Works pretty well too.
BRAZING MONTAGE!!!!!!! MY 3 YEAR OLD SON IS SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!😊
Your e year old son??
@@joeslinky Woops! Fat lingered that one.
@@joeslinky SEE WHAT I MEAN!
@@FrNMGuy Lol
Excellent install 👍
Nice install video. You set an example of how to do it all properly. That Carel EEV is a great part, and it was sweet to see a tech using the magnet tool to turn it open/closed. That tool is indispensable to rule out the controls vs the valve when things act up. It was great seeing you at the show as well. I'd venture that your customer here I bet will see their power bill drop a bit, as well.
I worked for an HVAC supplier for years and when it came to the contractors they either hated or loved press fittings. Same went with shark bite fittings and pex pipe. It's either you love it or hate it no in btwn haha
Good job Chris and crew.
Amazing 🧜♂️ craftsmanship 👏.. as always 🎉
That’s really cool. I did two walk-in replacements this summer. I got both to use a digital controlled evaporator, we used Russell, I liked them they also have huge capacitors to close the EEV upon a power failure. If I did it over though I also would still like a LLS. The Russell evaporators came stock with Sporlan EEVs which are very interesting and different looking to me vs what I typically see. As usual the customer is already on a budget and I always insulted the liquid line since in both applications the new line sets went through a very hot attic.
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Nice walk through with the Heatcraft!
Great Video. Thank you for sharing
Great videos man,I wish my supervisor was not so afraid of technology and get us the proper training and tools,Im trying to save up so I can get the DTech leak detector and the press from the video,
I appreciate all the time and effort you put on your videos!
PS willing to relocate from Texas if you ever looking for techs ✌️🍻
With EEV'S it is not uncommon for low superheat. Especially with VRF....I have seen superheat as low as 0.5°....with VRF, Chillers etc. This Heatcraft is pretty slick. The "front end" you were looking at on your tablet is pretty cool....its cool to see HMI's being more mainstream in equipment. In heavy commercial and industrial this has been a "thing" for decades now. It can and does give a vast amount of information.....as long as you understand what it is you are looking at. That was also a nice clean install yall did. Great video as always Chris
HOPE YOU GET TIME AWAY FROM PODCASTS TO ENJOY AHR AS JUST AN HVAC GUY. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I didn’t book anything on Wed for Ahr so that is my day to actually explore the show
I was wondering where the DTC Valve was on the compressor since it was a 448a system. Then remembered it was for a cooler. Used to dislike 448a but I have became a fan here lately. Tube and fin CONDENSOR are so much easier to keep clean.
Combination package beer / produce walk in..seasonal facility.
Box holds good temp of 38F but mold on produce..strawberries are main culprit
Need to coordinate with sous chef to rotate and toss product when beginning to show mold.
Really need to start fresh and decontaminate entire box.
Oh no, what happened to Sporlan? You took the Integrity, Quality and Tradition from us! ;-)
Hey Chris, this was an excellent, very informative and helpful video that managed to squeeze in key points about a lot of parts of the system and factors involved. Well done!
Regarding the networking communication, I would go with wired ethernet always and disable any wireless communication. This makes it much less likely for there to be issues with WiFi glitches and interference as well as removing the possibility of wireless hacking which can be shocking simple to achieve sometimes. Ideally, the cooler ethernet would be on the business intranet rather than a more general network that includes internet access, although this can be mitigated if the business has intelligent network management and knows how to configure it. It would then be possible to allow, for example a specific device, and only that device, that you or your business has to remotely access the cooler network interface and see what is going on and maintain decent network security.
I love an Install video first thing Sunday Morning 🍵
ive had inspectors demand i pressurize to 300 on these similar systems, one actually demanded the rated pressure on the system lmao. I actually won that argument!
Walk in cooler humidity is more controlled by condenser evaporator match than system size. If you use factory match it is typically for 10 degree evaporator TD, which causes a fairly wet cooler. For a dry unit I will use a 15 or higher TD with electric defrost. I am in Florida where the humidity is high and a lot of places use walk in's in place of reach in's and the cooler door is almost open more than it is closed. If I use cooler factory unit sizing the cooler will not hold temperature with heavy traffic. The only problem with the high TD is having to use the electric defrost.
I love your videos
Don't loose that pink crescent wrench at 23:42. It slid under the condenser when running power
Better a tight crescent than a loose one.
Sorry to butt into your search history. Are you trying to expand or re-locate to Montana or something? :)
Unless you already did, you should change the default WiFi password or someone will definitely connect to it and have their way with it
Yeah but you're *not* in Daylight Saving Time right now, that starts the second Sunday in March. If you would select the closest city instead (probably Los Angeles or something) it should just pull in DST settings for that locale.
havent seen old Tecumseh condensing units in a minute
I think is a good idea to bing the CAT 6 cable together with EXV and Transducer in the same box. And let IT to take it from there, instead of letting them in your controller box.
Nice one. 6200 BTU? Even my mobile A/C has 12.000. Well, in summer its way to weak, its monoblock and the case heats everything more than it cools...
Anyways, nice work and interessting video. Keep the good work.
Greetings from Germany :)
In industrial refrigeration our Transducers come telling us not to mount upside down for that very reason. Oil messes with them so bad.
Before replacing the equipment, have you considered putting a temperature data-logger in the box for a week or two, so that you can see the runtime on the current equipment and be able to more accurately calculate the capacity needed for the actual box and how its being operated?
Hopefully the configuration includes changing the wireless password. Otherwise someone in the area can connect and change what they like using the default password and service code.
Just add 4g simcard, and offer the customer remote management and setup alerts!!!
why heatcraft this brings me back to old days
You sped through the box sizing and didn't make a humidity adjustment despite harping about cardboard weakening, were the defaults for a keg cooler setup sufficiently dry as is?
Like your videos awesome work 👍! What size is that iPad I been wanting purchase one good case
That is a great installation, i install ke2 evap efficiency it similar to that but the only question i got sir isnt this eev works as a solenoid too?
I learn alot from your videos and it has made a better tech at field. Respect your effort and explanation in the videos.
It does also work as a solenoid. I’ve read a lot of people having problems with that though. He installed it to be more on the safe side and I’m guessing to extend the life of the eev.
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39:10 don't beat yourself up on that. I'd much rather more folks be like that then not! Oh also that score 'n snap trick w/the copper was great.
Good job Plz how down load heatcraft
38:59, is why he installed the liquid line solenoid valve.
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Just wondering on a shut down if the EEV is closed and the solenoid is closed any issues with liquid trapped between the two? if the box warms up you would have tremendous pressure between the two valves.
I looked into this recently, pretty sure the solenoids will "leak" in the reverse direction, so any extra pressure will bleed back into the liquid line.
No more Galaxy Tab Chris?
I like how the date on the controller defaulted to my birthday.😅
Theres mold because the damn manager doesnt know how to clean
hi what was the reason that you installed a p trap on the refrigerant line?
Dude the new EVAP was so much smaller then the old one!
Yeah that’s because I sized it properly
How close was you on the run time you estimated 14 hours just curious nice video 36:25 36:28 36:33
I've never seen a 1 fan evaporator
Heatcraft muscling in on Sporlan, who do they think they are!
Sporlan is not going anywhere they are still my main Sponsor
Hi Chris, excellent video!
I have a question. Where did you get that eev magnet? Who makes it?
Thanks in advance!
I got it from going to a Heatcraft training class but carel sells them
Excuse my ignorance in this matter, I don't work on much refrigeration, but is that a common thing to have a fixed orifice downstream of the exv? What if it was a txv instead of a exv? I guess I don't understand why there's both a fixed orifice and expansion valve. I'm starting to work on more walk ins and freezers lately so trying to learn all I can. Great video btw as usual
Talking about the nozzle? If so it's for even flow between the distribution tubes afaik
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What size of tip do you use on your torch
Chris Im confused for the ambient temperature for outside of the walk in is that for the condenser location because you put the ambient temperature at 105°F and then put the condenser on the roof of the building not the roof of the walk in like I expected the ambient temperature on the roof should it be alot highed than 105°F.
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39:08 oh ya but I dont see you using torque screwdrivers yet!
no sensor at 30:16 wifi names I guess 👀
It's not a multi system, it's a moldy system :D
U kinda burnt that pipe up lol😂
But good installation
Why a solenoid and an eev? I've never seen that done before
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❄️🇺🇸💪👍 great work n vid. HOW DID U KEEP THE EEV OPEN DURING BRAZING, WAS IT ENERGIZED? THANKS AGAIN
Come from the factory in an open position
@special_k-hvac thanks for the feedback much appreciated
They come open from the factory
@HVACRVIDEOS thanks for the feedback Chris much appreciated
If it’s an intelligen why the solenoid valve Chris? Shouldn’t the Eev pump it down?
Got my answer further in!
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With an EEV installed is the solenoid valve needed? Wouldn’t the EEV close when needed and act as the solenoid?
Never mind, memo to self watch entire video before commenting, you answered my question at the end
I've never seen one of these with a solenoid coil, whats that for??
I've never seen an intelligen or QRC with a solenoid valve.... Is that to mitigate when those crappy carel valves stick open slightly and leak by 🤣🤣🤣
That socket for the glycol unit isn't earthed, That needs sorting ASAP
Can you explain what is controlling your Solenoid in this situation since it's added by you. Thanks
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I have never installed a solenoid valve on an eev system, the eev do both the solenoid and txv's job.
Even on CO2 systems with eev there's no solenoid valves, just the eev.
Yeah I did it for redundancy
Why did you install a p trap on the suction line?
It helps with oil return
How you go to an install so unprepared needing bolts p trap and more
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Inteligen= over-enginered. Why not use a simple Ranco ETC? And DTAV40?
Government energy mandates are shaping the industry and pushing it in the direction it’s going
I must have missed it but how was the solenoid coil wired? Is there a connection on the controller or…?
Yes, there is a set of dry contacts in the board that you can run the solenoid through it.
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Wait wait wait... That's not right. This video isn't sponsored by Sporlan...? Quality, Integrity, Tradition?
Has my life been a lie? It's Heatcraft refrigeration... That can't be.
Who are you and what have you done to Chris?
noooooooooo
sporlan got replaced
Press fittings might be okay on non pressurized stuff.... for pressurized things better off soldering...
Not true, we use press fittings for anything, including domestic water, heating water, chilled water, and glycol systems. They have never failed us, although when Pro-Press first came out, I was skeptical of them for the longest time.
Doesn't the EEV make the solenoid redundant?
Yea
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Looks like my comment got auto-removed since it wrote out IP addresses, but it gives the IT reason why you've had difficulties connecting to devices with wifi. Basically it's about subnet masks.
Brazing near all that cardboard?
How
Twice as fast as a commercial bunn coffee maker.. 1/10 of the price!
635 thumbs uP
They were all oversized because of the global warming scare.
no quality,integrity nor tradition!
Your shop looks like a job hazard.
I see you’re still improperly, soldering the joints and wasting way too much solder where it could look and work a lot better if you just use less.
Yeah I’m a stubborn creature of habit
Here you go again, Ralph. Why don’t you do a video of your own and show us all how to do it your way?
@@jollygreen4639 The internet is full of people who like to moan, complain and criticize others. All talk and no walk.
Oh I know that. This guy does the same post when Chris brazes in his videos. But look at that guys profile. I say he’s not in the trade, never was.
So I guess me saying what I said to him, it’s time for him to “educate” us all. He can put up or shut up, would you agree? I’m not counting on it though. Lol
Could you use Staybrite 8 on those fittings? If yes, then you wouldn't need to flow nitro, correct?
That's plumber talk
Ancient argument.
Fans on both sides.
You do you.