MOST COMFORTABLE Sleeping Pad You Can Buy RIGHT NOW
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I have the women's Etherlight XT, wide/regular size. It's lighter and warmer than the men's version. I did quite a digging to find out what makes it a men's pad vs. a women's pad and basically the women's pad has a narrower shoulder region (since all men apparently have gorilla shoulders) and is meant for side sleepers. Since I'm skinny and sleep on my side, I just bought the women's pad and sleep warmer and carry less weight in my pack!
Thanks. I am also a narrow shoulders man and I'll look into it after seeing this
I slip my sea to summit pad (extreme version) into a sleeping bag liner, it acts like a soft fitted sheet đđŒ
I do the same, it also protects the pad slightly from abrasion/ roots and rocks.
That's an amazing idea I'm going to try that
Friggin sweeeeet hack.doin it đ
yes - great idea! this sounds perfect paired w a quilt!
I picked up the Nemo Tensor Alpine last year and I'm quite happy with it. I'm 6'4", 230 lbs, and I find it incredibly comfortable to sleep on my back or my side. I've taken it down to about 12F with a quilt and found it to be very warm. With a foam base pad, 0 degree quilt, and a liner bag, I'm confident I'll be able to take it to subzero degrees this winter.
How much space do you have on the thing? Iâm 6â7 and worried by legs/head arenât gonna fit on a 200cm sleeping pad
What foam base pad do you use?
Finally, someone who tells the truth when it comes to warmth on the S2S pad. Many reviews skip over this aspect. It could be that they sleep warm so it isn't an issue. I notice quite a bit difference in the warmth, but also agree the S2S is more comfortable, luxuriously comfortable for a backpacking pad. For me, the Nemo is not far behind, but much warmer.
The all mighty Tensor is still my favorite along with Rapide. Both are the most comfortable in their own ways. If anyone disagrees they must still be using a Thermarest đą
Disagree using Etherlight XT đ i love the Pump / Stuffsack combo too
Personally I think pad width is more important than depth yes the s2s ith deep but the regular means your arms fall off the sides.i now use the thermarest xtherm in large and it's super warm and it's way more comfy
The BA Rapide is my favorite. I have the Q-Core Deluxe and I had the Etherlight Extreme (Men's) and I get a better sleep in the Rapide every time. My problem with the Etherlite was that it was too noisy for me. I toss and turn a lot and it would wake everyone else in the camp up.
Yeah it's weird he'd choose the Q-Core here instead of the Rapide or Zoom, which are both better options than the Q.
I figured out the best sleeping pad for me is the EXPED Duo. Even though it's meant for two people (more like 1.5), it is awesome for one person, especially if you toss and turn, sleep on your side, or sleep in runner position. It also has a fairly decent loft to it. However, when I get a significant other I'd probably have to change it up and either have both of us use the duo or just buy one of the these.
I'm interested. Having a 1.5 person mat sounds like a dream to me.
However I don't think you can sleep as two persons on the same air mat. If one tosses around, the other would have a tough night
Everybody must be mentally maturer than me but at 4:33 he definitely says Big ANUS Q core deluxeđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł.
Seriously though bang on topic for me as i need a 'proper' sleeping mat for next year.
Cheers!
I heard big anus!! He might not have said it, but that's what came out of his mouth đ
JUSTIN, Can you do a review of the zenbivy sleep system sir?! thank you
I've felt the Ether Lite underperforms around freezing. I prefer my Nemo. I'd also stay away from the Ether Lite Extreme.
I move around a fair bit while I'm sleeping, whether at home or in the tent. Last year I switched from the Tensor Insulated Long Wide (I'm 6'3", 195lbs) to the Nemo Quasar. I find it to be way more comfortable than the Tensor, and have definitely had my best camp sleeps on this. This pad tapers from 3.5 inches to approximately 5 inches thick at the head, and is body mapped with thicker 4.5"?) sides. I find this feature reduces shoulder pressure when combined with a pillow for side sleeping. A bit heavy at over 2 lbs, a moderate 3.3 r value, but I find it to be super deluxe, and also quiet to sleep on.
Great video, I love my Tensor but always wonder if I'm missing something, this video helps validate it. Thanks for sharing and being awesome!
I had a Etherlite XT, thing popped on me on my 2nd trip with it. Replaced it with a Thermarest XTHERM so far so good on 3 trips.
I have a wide extreme Etherlight XT, and yeah it's super heavy and bulky. Amazing pad, but yeah, the synthetic insulation stays bulky when packed, and weighs a lot more than the amount of reflective material you'd need to get the same warmth.
I ditched the Etherlight completely in favour of the Nemo. The Nemo is, as you said, so much warmer. And I'm uncomfortable with the Etherlight's dimples when sleeping
... stomach down.
I have the ether light, it is awesome
Have a exped syntmat hl duo, s2s is more comfortable
I have to say I prefer my Sea to Summit Comfort Plus over my Etherlite XT. Iâve also had two Etherlites leak. Iâve lost confidence in their âweldingâ and have gone back to using the Comfort Plus with its âbelt and bracesâ dual layer of air cells. One final advantage - itâs only 6cm thick instead of 10cm giving you more headroom in a low tent.
I am still a fan of the Zenbivy light mattress. I have down to sub freezing and been extremely comfortable.
In my hammock I use the 7R exped downmat winterlite down to -30F. Iâm going to the wider Exped Dura 8R @ 2.5 lbs this winter. My backup sleeping pad is a 6â 8mil orange bag that I can fill with pine boughs. I turn the bag inside out, resin side out, to sleep inside in an emergency. The bag is heavy but one is none.
Oh -6oC no problem. My tent was frozen. I was fine, good sleeping bag, not the best but affordable too me, I had a comfortable night, oh and Iâm a side sleeper too. đđ â€â€â€
Great job! Clear, concise and covered all the bases, well done. I'm working on a vid comparing the Xlite and Etherlight, but wanted to reference the Tensor and a third option I haven't had the chance to test myself, so if you don't mind, I'll link this video for that info (and because I came to the same conclusion that the Etherlight provides the best sleep in warm conditions). Happy Trails!
I use the Sea to Summit Comfort Plus XT Wide....really comfortable and warm in winter and big which I like but a little noisy. May have to try the Thermarest 25".
I had a horrible cold night with the Sea to Summit Ether Light XT with temperature around freezing.
Hey,
What about the rapid sl ?
And what do you think about Exped ultra pads ?
Thanks a lot
I like the REI AirRail.
Any plans to review the Big Agnes Rapide SL? I wanted to love the Etherlite XT as it was very comfortable, but I just couldnât stay warm on that pad. The Rapide is lighter than the Q-core and still has a 4.2 r-value, so it seems promising as an alternative.
Seconded! I would also appreciate a review of the Rapide SL.
Yeah Iâm picking up a new one and still trying to decide between rapid xl and ether lite xt.
Thanks Daniel! The Rapide SL is basically a lighter and less soft Q-Core Deluxe. It's comfy but still not that warm. Synthetic insulation has a tough time living up to it's r-value.
@@JustinOutdoors Thanks for the helpful info! I think the Nemo Tensor is probably my best bet then since I tend to sleep cold.
When you describe how you sleep and issues you have had if feels like youâre reading my mind.
I am going hiking with some serious hikers this summer and buying my gear..
I am 5â1â and 104 lbs.
I bought the NEMO Forte 35 Sleeping Bag-Womenâs
Purchasing the Nemo Fillo pillow
But need advise on the pad thinking đ€ Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated Air Sleeping Pad-Womensâs OR Sea to Summit Comfort Plus SI Sleeping Pad-Womenâs
Is there a big difference?
Enjoy your journey in life and keep sharing
Thank you
Hey Justin, you really are missing out on not trying the Exped ul 5r series. Check out the technology on them. I promise itâs a pad you wonât regret. I have owned and returned that BA pad and I own the Ether and the Tensor. By far, the Exped blows them away. Year round comfortable, bed like warmth with the 5r.
if I may ask, the vertical baffles don't look comfortable. How does it compare to the ether lite from sea to summit in terms of comfort?
@@karinroten3606 I have every style of pad and I donât notice a difference between any of them as far as comfort. You wonât roll of the Exped either. The insulation is the seller on this pad. It is my favorite all season year round.
I personally own the etherlight xt longwide edition, a friend of mine bought the nemo tensor. Well, mine is waaaaay louder and a good bit bulkier, the tensor is so much more quiet. Nevertheless I am happy with mine, it IS loud though
thanks, I've seen a number of your videos and find them ALL to be Very good
could you let me know what is the thickest blacket size Mylar
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I really have enjoyed my Klymit insulated static v luxe. Iâd be curious to see how it stacks against these ones. It is heavier and wider but that wideness has proven to be an issue when youâre trying to cram 2 of them in a tent. I also question the high r-vale it has Iâm not sure if it has been independently reviewed. All in all though Iâve been pleased but I know weâll need to upgrade eventually so thanks for helping narrow down the choices!
I donât remember who did it. But there was a CZcamsr who compared pads using thermal imaging. Most were close to their rated R value. The Klymit was half, or less.
My brother bought the Klymit V and I bought the Q core Deluxe. I am 240lbs and his Klymit is way more comfy than the Q core and its R value is higher for less money. But its narrower.
I've owned all three, I love the weight of the Tensor and Ether, However the q core deluxe is defenitly the most comfortable and durable. Plus it has a softer material and less likely to puncture.
Always pair with a Z lite cell foam pad !
Thanks for this great comparison vid - subbed. Newbie here looking for max comfort. I've heard great things about both the Thermarest MondoKing and Exped Megamat but neither mentioned here?
Iâve been happy with the Tensor. 6â and 220, a side sleeper and it works great for me. However it just doesnât have the the F value I need once it gets close to freezing- then I have to go to a warmer pad. My take home is that these reviews are very helpful but in the end one has to try stuff for yourself for the definitive answer. I use the Zen Bivy quilt system and really like that. The pad is just one part of the sleep system and it all has to work together for oneâs needs.
Some campers, maybe most of us, do little to nothing to prepare the ground where they plan to sleep. Thatâs an error that is easily corrected.
For the tent: remove debris. Using a side-edge of a trowel or camp shovel to scrape away and gather twigs, stones, pull tabs, broken glass, pine cones, etc helps to lengthen the life of a tent flor, and is more comfortable to sleep on.
Fir the camper: camp sites are not golf greens. They do not resemble a flat table top. And, the human body doesnât fit into whatever array of humps, holes, slopes, and corrugations that are commonly provided. A little trowel work can help reshape the surface. I sleep on my side, and a shallow depression for a hip hole makes a big difference. About 3/4â relief can add an hour or two of sleep for me. In the morning, I return he dirt. I donât leave a trace in the dirt, and the dirt doesnât leave a trace in my back. Weâre even.
Iâve even heard that there are hip holes for sale nowadays. Just unfold one and lay it on the ground. Pick it up in the morning, refold it, and stuff it in with the sleeping bag. About $9.95. đ
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I like my thermarest xtherm max, but I have to use a foam pad underneath because I like having my mat half deflated lol.
Have you checked out the outdoor vitals oblivion yet? I just ordered it and it'll be here Monday I'm excited to check it out
I find the Etherlite XT the most uncomfortable pad I've slept on. Big Agnes Rapide Is the most comfortable I've tried so far!
Hey Justin! have you covered the lower RValue models? I picked up a Thermarest Prolite Plus. Yet to test. But I'm a very hot sleeper.. I've winter camped with those really think orange closed cell pads and was fine in pretty cold ~-10ÂșC, colder.
StS Ether light +1
the ether light xt is very comfy when its not popped. i found that thing more sensitive than the back of a babies head. i used it for like the first two months of the pct, and it would always get tiny holes. i blame the baffle design since its basically just a bunch of little cups. my trekology was more durable. i was hesitant to switch to another pad since im a picky sleeper, but i switched over to the x lite pretty easily.
Iâve been struggling late this season with a tiiiiiny hole(s) in my ether light that I canât find. Have to re-inflate it a few times through the night, but canât even find the hole dunking it in a bathtub.
Wow no messing thank God
What pillow and tie downs are you using there? Iâm trying to improve my sleep system because I sleep like garbage in the back country. Thanks.
why no mention of Exped mats. More and more go for comfort, what about the Megamat Lite 12, I would be very interested in that comparison to some of the "classics"
I have an update coming out this week which mentions exped pads. The new exped pads had just come out when I released this video, so I didn't have enough time to test them.
anyone had success bolstering the R-value of their pad with an Evazote foam pad in cold conditions? I've tried many inflatables and found the BA Q-Core/Rapide to be the most comfortable to me, a heavy side-sleeper who moves around a lot -- the raised sides are a really nice feature that helps me feel like I'm not falling off whenever i move. But its limitation as Justin mentioned is the R-value. I'm thinking of grabbing an Evazote mat (lower weight penalty compared to the heavier "waffle" style ones) to warm it up but am curious if anyone has first-hand experience?
Iâve had the 1inch self inflation mattress. Far les air inside too have too warm up. If your knee left the mattered, geez it was cold. I loved it. Or if you want too put a blanket underneath the mattress, that helps. Self inflation 1inch all the way. đâ€đđđđđđ
What are your thoughts on the Exped MegaMat 10?
What about all the negative reviews for the Tensor and the Ether which are saying they are not reliable (holes and mold)?
Haven't heard anything about mold, but the Tensor does seem to be having some durability issues. Ether Light XT less so.
would be nice to have an update of this review adding the BA Rapide SL Insulate
The Rapide SL is just a lighter, but less comfortable (due to face fabric) version of the Q-Core Deluxe
Iâve heard and seen really good things about the Big Agnes Rapide SL. Have you had any experience with it and how it compares to the Q-Core?
Lighter than the q-core and a less soft material
I have the Nemo Tensor, an it has several leaks in baffels after 1 one sleep. Prodution fault, but does not get a replacment. đą Take a other Brand.
I'm a mover and shaker, and my most important criteria is quietness.
Got the Ether Light XT wide long. Worst mat I have ever tried, so I sent it back.. so noisy, sounds like a bag of chips. Also it feels hard, even if i de-flate it. Not comfy in my oppinion. I am 190cm and 98kg. Disapointed.
In regards to the Sea To Summit Ether Light XT - does it matter between the one in your video vs the rectangular version?
I find it doesn't really for my comfort, but some people feel like rectangular has more room in places they like it.
I've got a Q Core Deluxe in the mail to me right now. My shoulders are getting sore from my arms falling off the sides of my existing pad. I got a Klymit V Luxe but their baffle and valve design are just stupid. That one is going back.
What is the best backpacking 3 season sleeping bag you would recommend? No one has review videos of sleeping bags.
It's hard to beat the price to performance of the Decathlon trek 900
@@JustinOutdoors thanks for your help I appreciate the response.
I want to see someone try out the amok fjol ul pad
I'm so surprised people think the Nemo Tensor is comfortable. I gave it two backpacking trips and completely gave up. My arm was numb only minutes after laying on my side and my back ached something fierce the following day from sleeping on my back. IMO I think it's so overrated.
I find the complexity of modern sleeping mat design quite "baffling".
Noise should be a big factor
I think you should try the rapide sl
It's basically a less soft Q-Core Deluxe though
Where is the thermarest topo luxe? You canât do a comparison like this without that pad. I donât understand why it is so overlooked?
I will go out on a limb here and say it's because of the horizontal baffling he said is not comfortable to him...
Also itâs in a heavier category than the three highlighted.
It is not heavier. It is lighter than the Q Core and only slightly heavier than the sea to summit with a better 3.7 R value whilst being a full 4â thick across the pad and more durable 50D fabric.
@@mulreid youâre right. I own the tensor. Forgot how much heavier the other two were.
what tent are you using in the back ground Justin?
REI Quarter Dome SL 2!
That's an awesome tent! Own it and the SL 1 as well.. would be intere6in seeing you do a review on the REI SL quarter dome 1 or 2.. appreciate the work you do!
@@JustinOutdoors I had one of those and didn't like it replaced with a Copper Spur 2 from BA which was much better IMO. Something I always note is you use mesh inner tents all the time and you are in a cold country, snow, wind etc and never seem to have inners with any solid panels in your tents which I find odd?
I've never heard of anyone sleeping naked while camping. Note to self, don't share tent with Justin. đ
Link those boots!
Have you tried Outdoor Vitals pad?
Iâm curious what your thoughts areâŠ.
I have it and it's okay. The pad pretty comfortable and warm, but it's really narrow.
@@loganwillmann8213 The long-wide is 25x78. Thatâs not narrow. I have one as well.
Iâm just curious how it compares, in comfort and temperature, to the ones on this listâŠ.
Oh great, my comment didn't come thought or was deleted...
Irrelevant as you didnât assess the Kilos gear pad.
Wasn't readily available when I was testing. So your comment is irrelevant.
@@JustinOutdoors fair point, the fact is that tests like this lose relevance when new products are released.
@@wandering_not_lost Good thing I have an Aerocloud going through testing right now for a 2024 update video ;)
I'll admit, I clicked on this video because I refused to believe the Nemo was not it...
Phew, okay now that I finished the video I feel less ragey! My only comment is because I always have a closed cell pad with me (it weighs nothing, and its nice for quick siestas on the trail) I always put that under my sleeping pad. Not just for warmth, but also just so when I'm rolling over and put an elbow down then even if I do bottom out it will be cushioned.
I don't really understand how one bag of air can be better than another bag of air.
Similar to how one hunk of steel and plastic (a car) can be better than another.
I will never go back to ground sleeping if I have a choice. No pad is more comfortable than my hammock with an underquilt
No way youâre 180lbs đ
U donât need to search . Etherlight is the most comfortable and has the best pump / stuffsack
The all mighty Tensor is still my favorite along with Rapide. Both are the most comfortable in their own ways. If anyone disagrees they must still be using a Thermarest đą