Teaching the Trivium: Introduction to the Trivium by Harvey and Laurie Bluedorn This seminar was delivered in Austin, Texas in 2004. TriviumPursuit.com
00:00 Introduction 5:02 Dorothy Sayers 7:01 Trivium view of 3 stages of childhood 9:37 the trivium in practice, with examples of Math and History 10:30 Where did trivium originate: Knowledge/what, understanding/how and wisdom/why 15:23 Harvard college requirements 16:40 3 observations on modern education ... Modern education child learns everything but how to learn 19:23 modern education creates learning disabilities 20:01 undermining parental role 22:43 politically correct ideology such as evolution 26:10 mastery od the facts, mastery of the relationships and mastery of their uses 27:45 The opposite of the trivium is Outcome-based education. Students never learnt the basics, they only learnt the outcome 34:00 logic
Over the years I feel less and less terrible for being a 0.9 gpa student. I could never understand why I went to school for 6 hours a day and then went home and did homework for another 6-8 hours. The style of learning just didn't compute and I didn't feel like I was learning anything important. This showed me why.
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
Classical education here is used to structure the liberating art of learning how to learn alongside the natural progression and development of the human mind that God had set in our nature.
Just want to say thanks and bless you both for sharing. It's taking me quite some time to grasp the logical fallacies, but I know they are important to understand, so I'll keep at it.
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
Wish someone who can take time to do something about the audio quality, I do understand tressure talks are done by people with limited means but a heart to serve thank you and God bless you all. I never got higher education let alone a classical one you are my light in dark world.
Laurie Bluedorn Thank You so much. With a wedding coming up and plans on homeschooling in the future, this will be a great inclusion in many others lives. If there are ever more seminars in the San Antonio, TX surrounding areas, please let me know. Augiemeyer@gmail.com
All of this about the Trivium is amazing, but giving that Trivium is started at an early age I have a question, how does an 18-year-old go about learning Trivium and applying it to his life?
+Muhammed A.G. Here are some articles which might help: www.triviumpursuit.com/blog/2015/06/04/how-do-you-teach-a-person-to-think/ www.triviumpursuit.com/blog/2015/03/03/is-it-too-late-for-a-40-something-year-old/
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
@@TraderZer0 Yes. Satanic means, Diabolical and Evil Religion is Not real They steal human perceptions of what is real, then replaces them with Satanic Religious Beliefs, for confusion. The confusion, results in a "loss of authority" and slavery. Religion is slavery and slavery is never ok. Humans are not supposed to follow religion or lies or idols. We are supposed to ask questions to learn the truth. Its not in a book. RELIGION is LIES for SLAVERY
@@TraderZer0 There is no God. There are many (hundreds) of "beliefs" in deities that DO NOT EXIST. God is Dog spell-ed backwards to FOLLOW Beliefs are not real Believers are the TARGET of Religious DARK Magick in the books Scripture is Brainwashing We may ALWAYS give thanks to something NO SUCH THING AS "GOD" ITS NOT YOURS ITS NOT FOR YOU WE ALL MUST SHARE THE ONE TRUE SPIRIT
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
@@je-freenorman7787 Yes, and I agree on that, but the talk of the video isn't about promoting religion ...just because they have made a few references to God. The Trivium and everything related to it are important things for all of us to learn about, contemplate on - and break out of the handicapping mold that has been forced on us for many aeons by the nefarious forces ruling this world for millennia.
So with the trivium you encourage your children to think for yourself, but you impose Christianity on them? That’s a bit contradictory don’t you think?
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
“As Christians, we want to learn the languages, the logic, and the rhetoric, so that we can really read, and think, and speak.Period.” [Read: we will deliberately ignore the rich traditions that these tools produced, because we only seek to confirm what we already think.]
All of anything starts with the Trivium and man hand only nature to watch first before Judaism. So man is choosing survival of the fittest as the philosophy and using the excuse of divine guidance when it comes to the genocide religions are always making excuses for. Consider the conquerors write history and apply the trivium to that idea and you will find the heads of all these religions are nothing more than CON MEN or GREEDY OLD DUDES (G.O.D.)
Fantastic rethoric on the subject of the Trivium. :-D However ... does the dogmatic idea of Roman Christianity not interfere with many parts of the Trivium? Mainly the logic part. It seems also very contradictory to study classic frameworks and then claim we do not want to become like those classics as the aim of study is not only learning but also transforming.
I was a little disappointed in this lecture and its views on evolution, but I'd be happy to listen to the full reasoning and suspend judgement for now given that there is a whole series of lectures. The argument given against evolution in the lecture appears to be an offhand statement by an evolutionist in the 20th century, rather than taking the evidence, understanding and conclusions of evolution into account. I can understand if the speaker presupposes the truth of the bible as their core premises and that divine premises must take precedent over contradictions found in nature, but if this isn't the case, I don't understand how the speaker does not come to the conclusion that evolution is well evidenced. It should be added actually that I believe in the Trivium and I believe that it absolutely leads to truth and deeper philosophical understanding, I just think that dogmatic thinking is interfering with the operating principles of grammar, logic and rhetoric. The evidence of this is towards the end of the lecture where evolution is poked fun at, and jokes are argued against as straw men. Perhaps the speaker ought to argue directly with Darwin through a detailed reading of the Origin of Species in addition to later scientific works on DNA and modern genetics. I'm sure then if they argue in good faith that they might be mistaken, or at the very least see that the science is in fact logical when the premises are derived from nature. I'd completely understand if the speaker dismissed the arguments due their faith and their acceptance of the divine knowledge they've received, but not while they fail to investigate the claims with the same lack of rigour as the modern school system.
Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution with Berlinski, Meyer, and Gelernter czcams.com/video/noj4phMT9OE/video.html All three reject macro-evolution. Only one believes in intelligent design.
Just starting to understand and pursue the trivium. Not quite sure where Religion, God figures and theories of evolution fit in here. These are constructs created by man therefore inherently subjective. The objective reality which is our lived life and experience should be our foundation. At the end of the day all we have is the exploration of this physical place and we encounter...
@@jasongraber5350 Bang! Well said. No knock on anyone and there choice of religion, but I fail to see how those have anything to do with the the Trivium on a world wide perspective.
Half of this talk is a logical fallacy. The appeal to faith. You conclude your religion is true without applying it to any reason. Therefore your lecture is invalid in teaching the Trivium.
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
If you choose to speak on a subject, shouldn’t you have experience on that subject? If you’re going to speak on same-sex orientation or the right to life, shouldn’t you have had a same-sex experience that has lasted longer than a quick judgement as to it being wrong or realize that you can’t say something is living if it’s totally dependent upon the body functions of it’s host? If I argue against heterosexuality because I’m homosexual, aren’t I just as wrong as my arguments against against homosexuality because I’m heterosexual. For that matter of fact both arguments become incorrect when considering bisexuality or androgynous or gender neutrality. Do you actually have a degree from college or university?
Religion is Satanic. There is no such thing as a Christian. Its a Satanic Religious Belief. Sorry They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are, making you an idiot. Government is all Roman Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick. Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels. Religion is Satanic
This is actually the best description of the Trivium I have found so far! Excellent spokesman!
Holy crap! The things he said would happen are happening now! Looking into this now, thank you!
Absolutely best description of the trivium and why it’s so needed! Thank you!
00:00 Introduction
5:02 Dorothy Sayers
7:01 Trivium view of 3 stages of childhood
9:37 the trivium in practice, with examples of Math and History
10:30 Where did trivium originate: Knowledge/what, understanding/how and wisdom/why
15:23 Harvard college requirements
16:40 3 observations on modern education
... Modern education child learns everything but how to learn
19:23 modern education creates learning disabilities
20:01 undermining parental role
22:43 politically correct ideology such as evolution
26:10 mastery od the facts, mastery of the relationships and mastery of their uses
27:45 The opposite of the trivium is Outcome-based education. Students never learnt the basics, they only learnt the outcome
34:00 logic
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of love, and of power and of a sound mind-
my favorite scripture
Over the years I feel less and less terrible for being a 0.9 gpa student. I could never understand why I went to school for 6 hours a day and then went home and did homework for another 6-8 hours. The style of learning just didn't compute and I didn't feel like I was learning anything important. This showed me why.
Yes, but he could have done it in five minutes.
these people say the truth about modern education period it takes courage to tell it on the face
A great lecture, thank you for sharing a condense overview on the Trivium.
And I thought I was a screwup, in school, for rejecting their garbage and substituting that for my own thing, which is very much like trivium.
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
Excellent video!!
Classical education here is used to structure the liberating art of learning how to learn alongside the natural progression and development of the human mind that God had set in our nature.
Just want to say thanks and bless you both for sharing. It's taking me quite some time to grasp the logical fallacies, but I know they are important to understand, so I'll keep at it.
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
I love and apriciate you introduction it put things in perspective for me a Christ follower who is interested in classical learning
Wish someone who can take time to do something about the audio quality, I do understand tressure talks are done by people with limited means but a heart to serve thank you and God bless you all. I never got higher education let alone a classical one you are my light in dark world.
😍🙏🎯❤🎯🙏💯Thank you! Better late than never!
Thank you for a lesson such as this. Would you suggest books and other resources on this subject?
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Laurie Bluedorn Thank You so much. With a wedding coming up and plans on homeschooling in the future, this will be a great inclusion in many others lives. If there are ever more seminars in the San Antonio, TX surrounding areas, please let me know. Augiemeyer@gmail.com
@@AugiesStuff We won't be doing any more seminars. We are old. : )
@@LaurieBluedorn no reason to not give seminars!
What is the name music at the beginning
This Is My Father's World ~Maltbie Babcock
All of this about the Trivium is amazing, but giving that Trivium is started at an early age I have a question, how does an 18-year-old go about learning Trivium and applying it to his life?
+Muhammed A.G. Did you come up with a conclusion?
+Muhammed A.G. Here are some articles which might help: www.triviumpursuit.com/blog/2015/06/04/how-do-you-teach-a-person-to-think/ www.triviumpursuit.com/blog/2015/03/03/is-it-too-late-for-a-40-something-year-old/
You can study the Trivium & Quadrivium on PDF Download it & "LEARN" learn !
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
this aged very well
Wonderful video!
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
Excellent explanation
are there any other links to additional lectures on the trivium?
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
@@je-freenorman7787 religion is satanic?
@@TraderZer0 Yes.
Satanic means, Diabolical and Evil
Religion is Not real
They steal human perceptions of what is real, then replaces them with Satanic Religious Beliefs, for confusion.
The confusion, results in a "loss of authority" and slavery.
Religion is slavery and slavery is never ok.
Humans are not supposed to follow religion or lies or idols.
We are supposed to ask questions to learn the truth. Its not in a book.
RELIGION is LIES for SLAVERY
@@je-freenorman7787 so you dont suffer from any delusions?
@@TraderZer0 There is no God.
There are many (hundreds) of "beliefs" in deities that DO NOT EXIST.
God is Dog spell-ed backwards
to FOLLOW
Beliefs are not real
Believers are the TARGET of Religious DARK Magick
in the books
Scripture is Brainwashing
We may ALWAYS give thanks to
something
NO SUCH THING AS "GOD"
ITS NOT YOURS
ITS NOT FOR YOU
WE ALL MUST SHARE THE
ONE TRUE SPIRIT
Please did something about the audio more so for us who English is a second language.
The first time i heard about trivium was from Mark Passio.
like lt i love it
At what age should the Trivium be taught to children?
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
@@je-freenorman7787 Yes, and I agree on that, but the talk of the video isn't about promoting religion ...just because they have made a few references to God. The Trivium and everything related to it are important things for all of us to learn about, contemplate on - and break out of the handicapping mold that has been forced on us for many aeons by the nefarious forces ruling this world for millennia.
Honestly thought this was about the band when I clicked on this
So with the trivium you encourage your children to think for yourself, but you impose Christianity on them? That’s a bit contradictory don’t you think?
This was great. Are there other parts?
czcams.com/channels/R5gZqNP7bvTbN8wZn3y_sg.html
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
“As Christians, we want to learn the languages, the logic, and the rhetoric, so that we can really read, and think, and speak.Period.” [Read: we will deliberately ignore the rich traditions that these tools produced, because we only seek to confirm what we already think.]
Exactly. Classical Education is rich in itself.All Western Education emanates from Judaism.
All of anything starts with the Trivium and man hand only nature to watch first before Judaism. So man is choosing survival of the fittest as the philosophy and using the excuse of divine guidance when it comes to the genocide religions are always making excuses for.
Consider the conquerors write history and apply the trivium to that idea and you will find the heads of all these religions are nothing more than CON MEN or GREEDY OLD DUDES (G.O.D.)
The letter E is like 3 wanna see a symmetry? BCDE-G-PTVZ
Fantastic rethoric on the subject of the Trivium. :-D However ... does the dogmatic idea of Roman Christianity not interfere with many parts of the Trivium? Mainly the logic part. It seems also very contradictory to study classic frameworks and then claim we do not want to become like those classics as the aim of study is not only learning but also transforming.
Is not living like jesus the most correct and logical way to live? To live for the betterment of everything?
Morality is logical.
Immorality is illogical and leads to death ...or worse
I was a little disappointed in this lecture and its views on evolution, but I'd be happy to listen to the full reasoning and suspend judgement for now given that there is a whole series of lectures. The argument given against evolution in the lecture appears to be an offhand statement by an evolutionist in the 20th century, rather than taking the evidence, understanding and conclusions of evolution into account. I can understand if the speaker presupposes the truth of the bible as their core premises and that divine premises must take precedent over contradictions found in nature, but if this isn't the case, I don't understand how the speaker does not come to the conclusion that evolution is well evidenced.
It should be added actually that I believe in the Trivium and I believe that it absolutely leads to truth and deeper philosophical understanding, I just think that dogmatic thinking is interfering with the operating principles of grammar, logic and rhetoric. The evidence of this is towards the end of the lecture where evolution is poked fun at, and jokes are argued against as straw men. Perhaps the speaker ought to argue directly with Darwin through a detailed reading of the Origin of Species in addition to later scientific works on DNA and modern genetics. I'm sure then if they argue in good faith that they might be mistaken, or at the very least see that the science is in fact logical when the premises are derived from nature. I'd completely understand if the speaker dismissed the arguments due their faith and their acceptance of the divine knowledge they've received, but not while they fail to investigate the claims with the same lack of rigour as the modern school system.
Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution with Berlinski, Meyer, and Gelernter
czcams.com/video/noj4phMT9OE/video.html
All three reject macro-evolution. Only one believes in intelligent design.
Just starting to understand and pursue the trivium. Not quite sure where Religion, God figures and theories of evolution fit in here.
These are constructs created by man therefore inherently subjective. The objective reality which is our lived life and experience should be our foundation. At the end of the day all we have is the exploration of this physical place and we encounter...
"Theory" = pathos until proven with logos. Peer-reviews do not equal Logos, no matter how many people (may be paid) to agree.
@@jasongraber5350 Bang! Well said. No knock on anyone and there choice of religion, but I fail to see how those have anything to do with the the Trivium on a world wide perspective.
Half of this talk is a logical fallacy. The appeal to faith. You conclude your religion is true without applying it to any reason. Therefore your lecture is invalid in teaching the Trivium.
Logical preposition: If God is all powerful can he create a rock that he cannot lift?😈
Yes. And?
Nope,That's a contradiction(Law of non-contradiction).
It's like saying: "I see and not see that rock at same time and relation".
If we are vibrating frequencies and 99.999999 empty space, the master of these frequencies can become the rock.
Welcome to the ether!
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
@@je-freenorman7787 you are very correct and I might further add it keeps the mind in an adolescent state.
If you choose to speak on a subject, shouldn’t you have experience on that subject? If you’re going to speak on same-sex orientation or the right to life, shouldn’t you have had a same-sex experience that has lasted longer than a quick judgement as to it being wrong or realize that you can’t say something is living if it’s totally dependent upon the body functions of it’s host? If I argue against heterosexuality because I’m homosexual, aren’t I just as wrong as my arguments against against homosexuality because I’m heterosexual. For that matter of fact both arguments become incorrect when considering bisexuality or androgynous or gender neutrality. Do you actually have a degree from college or university?
Religion is Satanic.
There is no such thing as a Christian.
Its a Satanic Religious Belief.
Sorry
They steal your perceptions of who, what and where you are,
making you an idiot.
Government is all Roman
Christianity is not real and the Bible is Dark Satanic Magick.
Scripture is spells. God Spells are gospels.
Religion is Satanic
apply this process to your jew-god