How to get a PERFECT SCORE - 60 Stars - in the Battle Training Grounds! (Summoners War)

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Some of the runs are my own, and some of the runs are credit to the following:
    ElementsWolf mon bébou
    Bothaa qui fait tout
    Adtchou le boss
    Shinedday (moa, beep boop i’m a bot)
    Blazetherozeo for english version
    Paury for the 18th stage

Komentáře • 175

  • @orionsarrow2119
    @orionsarrow2119 Před 3 lety +84

    From what I've seen in them, there actually is no rng. The same move will crit or not and land debuff or not depending on whether you've done the right moves. I've done testing on several of the stages and if you do certain move orders you will always fail to crit on certain enemies in certain scenarios, etc

    • @Lynxwire
      @Lynxwire Před 3 lety +7

      Exactly, feels like they removed rng from these mock battles. You will always sleep or stun etc.

    • @potxtoe
      @potxtoe Před 3 lety +1

      @@Lynxwire or fail

    • @orionsarrow2119
      @orionsarrow2119 Před 3 lety +2

      It's entirely determined by whether or not you've made the right moves. Use the wrong skill on the wrong unit at the wrong time and you won't crit or apply debuffs

    • @Lynxwire
      @Lynxwire Před 3 lety

      @@potxtoe like I said: etc.

    • @WilhelminaRa
      @WilhelminaRa Před 3 lety +1

      realizing this on releaseday, I also commented this already to bagel on the video from this day, but realising this,was helping to solve this Puzzlebattles on release day (allthough I tried some of the battles 5 to 6 times )

  • @kevzdance
    @kevzdance Před 3 lety +22

    me: skip skip. let's go. i need the crystals now. LOL Thanks Bagel. haha! :*

  • @elm9607
    @elm9607 Před 3 lety +37

    Bagel- "anytime there's a third skill i just wanna use it" definition of the auto play AI....

    • @nexus6100
      @nexus6100 Před 3 lety +7

      Not even that's true. Look at how many times Lushen just doesn't amp the waves.

    • @ragnr5761
      @ragnr5761 Před 3 lety +4

      @@nexus6100 then when there's one crystal left with 10% HP lushen with 3rd skill

    • @SABRMatt2010
      @SABRMatt2010 Před 3 lety +1

      FALSE. If that were true, I wouldn't hate watching Zaiross try to auto Faimon Hell and spam his first skill over and over.

    • @mikechartofilis
      @mikechartofilis Před 3 lety

      its the other way around, the reason we blame AI is because they don't use their skills when they have them

    • @elm9607
      @elm9607 Před 3 lety

      Well it's kinda both sometimes lushen or other mons will use third skill when 1 monster left with 1 hp on a wave and others it's they have third skill but use there first instead so it can go either way

  • @gabrielmigueloliveira6344

    My Mock Battle 12 goes wrong when it's for Xiong Fei to attack Halphas with the S3 Kahn goes first and then if I reverse the order for Kahn to kill Neal, Halphas can become invincible. Because it wasn't Nisha's turn to use S3 and so turn 22 is when Nisha's turn comes.

    • @SevanJordan1
      @SevanJordan1 Před 2 lety +1

      This keeps happening to me as well, i realized that in the video that bagel lands the slow on neal and I dont everytime i play through it. Maybe its a bug because i play it by the book everytime and it just doesnt work

  • @cecilesia5734
    @cecilesia5734 Před 3 lety +4

    Perfect video ! Gives you literally all info you need :D

  • @quorthonbeleuve
    @quorthonbeleuve Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks Bagel!, and confirm no RNG on this bec happened to me exactly as yours

  • @zerotwo8300
    @zerotwo8300 Před 3 lety +9

    "It is so easy" ahahahah yes bagel it's not like i've been trying some for like 2 days ahah

    • @WilhelminaRa
      @WilhelminaRa Před 3 lety

      I finished the whole Mode on release day, so yeah , when you find out,that RNG is not there in this mode, and everything goes all the same in everytime you try that, you will make it prettyy fast through it. It took me sometimes 5 to 6 tries, because the longer ones are harder to keep track on.

    • @wlspspsps3642
      @wlspspsps3642 Před 3 lety +5

      I think it is poorly designed, for example in some scenarios you need to make a bad move in order for the next skill to not be resisted, my mental couldnt bear that anymore after stage 6 or something

  • @backonlazer791
    @backonlazer791 Před 2 lety +3

    Battle 12 seems to have changed somehow. Dunno if it's possible anymore. It's very similar up until turn 8 where the slow fails to land on all enemies.

    • @backonlazer791
      @backonlazer791 Před 2 lety +1

      To me this content is super annoying since it doesn't give a clear picture how the units work at all since the RNG is basically removed and using the "wrong" skill can cause it to fail even if it would normally be optimal.

  • @marcelobenattoferreira2998

    I cant do it on the battle 12. On the turn 14 it should be the panda attacking, but for me it's the bird (screwing everything up).

  • @nickr6160
    @nickr6160 Před 2 lety +3

    pretty sure level 9 doesn't work the same any more because of the elsharion buff. gonna have to figure it out on my own

  • @sumseemoon2396
    @sumseemoon2396 Před 3 lety

    Bagel,i had to slow you down to .50 just to follow,thanks you and the ppl than make this for us to follow,love you man.

  • @lexjordan9910
    @lexjordan9910 Před 3 lety +5

    Poor Armada needs a hug. Aaaw!

  • @davemartinez8464
    @davemartinez8464 Před 3 lety +18

    I like how troll2us think the skills work in this game, most of the time the rng fails everything or either gets everything.

  • @ohem9730
    @ohem9730 Před 3 lety +2

    thanks bagel this was very helpful

  • @outsidaout
    @outsidaout Před 2 lety +5

    Attempted doing these training stages today, some of the attack orders used to clear waves arent working anymore. Is there a up to date version on beating these stages? Stage 12 is rough

  • @vlhahn3090
    @vlhahn3090 Před 3 lety +2

    This is what I needed. Some were easy to do others I got stuck on lol 😂

  • @jewfredbarius9143
    @jewfredbarius9143 Před 2 lety +1

    There is either rng or things have changed since this video. Have had to look up separate guides for some of these.
    Example: Mock Battle 11 by turn 11 Velajuel should be dead, have tried multiple times and he is not dead. Causing 1 extra turn every time and messes up the rest of the order for the video

  • @wiseoldowl1628
    @wiseoldowl1628 Před 3 lety +1

    May The Face heals

  • @agentdiabeetus9108
    @agentdiabeetus9108 Před 3 lety

    Thanks bro was waiting for you to put this out!!!!!

  • @angelbenejan6160
    @angelbenejan6160 Před 3 lety

    I was waiting for a video like this to do the tower. Glad I waited. 😉

  • @tesariongaming3828
    @tesariongaming3828 Před 3 lety

    Damn, now this helps a lot Bagel!! Thanks a lot!

  • @armadilloarmor8496
    @armadilloarmor8496 Před 3 lety +13

    Hope the mock battle can be reset every month like TOA 😅🤔😄 lols

    • @asura5223
      @asura5223 Před 3 lety

      Thats a good idea 🤔

    • @arbitraryanecdotes4521
      @arbitraryanecdotes4521 Před 3 lety +1

      Only if they make new ones. Otherwise there wouldn't be a ton of point. It isn't as versatile as toa from a strategy standpoint

    • @Shiro_Haven
      @Shiro_Haven Před 3 lety

      It's in the building so i think it's permanent

    • @Andrew..J
      @Andrew..J Před 3 lety

      @@arbitraryanecdotes4521 20 scrolls and 1k crystals. id clear the same 20 stages every month for that. hell id write a script to do it for me like i do toah

    • @WilhelminaRa
      @WilhelminaRa Před 3 lety

      @@Andrew..J :D, for the resources, eah I wouldnt mind to repeat this.

  • @veljadimic4527
    @veljadimic4527 Před 3 lety

    great video for new and F2P players,right on bagelbro!

  • @aldothelizard6669
    @aldothelizard6669 Před 3 lety +6

    Is it worth mentioning that if they get rebalanced in a balance patch, future new players might not be able to complete these puzzles bcs these units might get nerfed ?

  • @moresezer8680
    @moresezer8680 Před 3 lety +2

    For the first turns if u do the way they wanted it u can't miss skills if its right also it always crits same turn same target. If u miss u do something wrong

  • @chum-pettie5425
    @chum-pettie5425 Před 3 lety

    I got Abellio from one of the scrolls. Thanks man. :)

  • @linkmax5374
    @linkmax5374 Před 3 lety +2

    I pretty sure the rng is always the same you can try that in the last one rica will always do her 3rd skill and she always going to give Land the same debuff no matter how much you try .
    But There could be rng if you do it out of order

  • @tunnlrat3
    @tunnlrat3 Před 2 lety +2

    Some of these floors no longer work properly the way you showed them in this video. Due to balance patch changes do you happen to know if floors like 19 have to be done differently now?

  • @amandatinkham3406
    @amandatinkham3406 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you bagel!

  • @angelitabecerra
    @angelitabecerra Před 3 lety

    I managed to get the 3*s for the first 4 on my own. Mostly watching this to give you the watch time as I'll be 3*ing these on my own later

  • @emiliocuevas9581
    @emiliocuevas9581 Před 3 lety

    ppl who disliked; shame on you, he technically beat it for you, all you gotta do is follow

  • @baronvonclems
    @baronvonclems Před 3 lety

    It is not a puzzle. Its trial and error. I dont blame anyone for using a guide.
    At first i was hyped for this content. This was how i envisioned a "skill = knowledge" based puzzle in SW. HOWEVER... It has nothing to do with knowledge. Debuffs will land or not land depending on what action you took that should NOT influence the chance of a debuff landing or not.
    Example: Praha/Tanya/Vigor/Chloe.
    First Chloe will buff her team. You decide to steal a buff from Praha with Elsharion. If you then use Cichlid's S3 on praha, you will NOT def break.
    But, if you dont streal a buff from Praha, Chichlid's S3 will def break.
    Unless its a hidden mechanic, her defbreak chances are not increased by the amount of debuffs she removes.

  • @Pur3Era
    @Pur3Era Před 3 lety +1

    anyone else notice Battle 11, says 3 succubus's but switches fire succubus for dark harpy?

  • @porkieman
    @porkieman Před 3 lety

    wow nice very helpful thanks

  • @kenjopooh
    @kenjopooh Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much...Bagel!!!!!

  • @ammarabasharat1309
    @ammarabasharat1309 Před 3 lety +1

    NEW BATTELS

  • @gaunterodimm7495
    @gaunterodimm7495 Před 3 lety

    i love the chika prof

  • @justinturnage1422
    @justinturnage1422 Před 2 lety +1

    The Neal light lich fight doesn't work, been trying for over 2hrs with these exact attacks and Neal never gets the speed debuff and always gets a purify off and I when turn 23

  • @bountylord9125
    @bountylord9125 Před 3 lety

    Anyone else notice that the succubus nightmare doesn't actually give you 3 of them they give you the dark, wind and then hellea. The icon shows a fire succubus.

  • @JoseAviles-fj7hm
    @JoseAviles-fj7hm Před 3 lety

    the way that I was doing the skogul one was that I was using Lauren to push his attack gauge back and I used tesa to put oblivion on the rest and I still completed it three stars. it was pretty weird to see this way lmao

  • @duskfull1804
    @duskfull1804 Před 2 lety +1

    I literally can’t do magic power withdrawal none of the videos play out the same way mine does and even tho I’m doing exactly what’s done in the video idk what to do

  • @metaverseanglerjt4996
    @metaverseanglerjt4996 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this. Followed the video to get all my rewards from mock fights

  • @RizampGaming
    @RizampGaming Před 3 lety +1

    Think you should have linked the guide also. Just so we could go there and thank them

  • @1999sadler
    @1999sadler Před 2 lety +1

    Think they changed some of the stages. I did the ariel, elsharion, priest stage and the turn orders are different

  • @neobeowulf78
    @neobeowulf78 Před 3 lety

    thank you for this!

  • @bkgaming3181
    @bkgaming3181 Před 3 lety

    the saint

  • @CLIPHUBHD
    @CLIPHUBHD Před 3 lety +1

    we need BagelCam

  • @SavedMoon
    @SavedMoon Před 3 lety

    Well thank you

  • @americanvisayan
    @americanvisayan Před 2 lety

    On battle 11 I literally never get sonnets con damage to vela thus fking up the whole thing. 50% is somehow miraculously 0% for me after 20 resets. I did however change it up a bit to win finally in 18 turns instead of 19 in the video. Please Update. half of these later stages are wrong now

  • @garethcooley1318
    @garethcooley1318 Před 3 lety

    Mine has multiple times stolen immunity on the first turn, however I was using s3 for Elsharion. Also, Cichlid NEVER stripped anything with skill 3 until I followed instructions.

  • @mikechartofilis
    @mikechartofilis Před 3 lety

    Like you said there are many ways to do it, for example I did use Nishas third skill first turn and still got 3 stars

  • @thedaooffish7279
    @thedaooffish7279 Před 3 lety

    actually im pretty sure everything has a set response it just depends on which unit you pick on which turn but it is all set

  • @rattanapornthongpoeng885

    very good.

  • @chayjay1956
    @chayjay1956 Před 2 lety

    14 is different now as well as a couple others throughout

  • @leviatra1227
    @leviatra1227 Před 2 lety

    For anyone wondering why this isnt working, mostly outdated. Some monsters got buffs or debuffs u need to look for a new one

  • @LidrPein
    @LidrPein Před 3 lety

    I have only been able to 3 start stage 9 using the guide and even after this, after using the guide, I still have no idea what that one stage was supposed to be about...

  • @ridergoldenspear
    @ridergoldenspear Před 3 lety

    ty Bagel

  • @HerrscherSirin
    @HerrscherSirin Před 3 lety +1

    bagel back at it again with changing his name and picture. i mean who is that account you're on

  • @Shiro_Haven
    @Shiro_Haven Před 3 lety

    Finally whoooo

  • @georgezoulis4441
    @georgezoulis4441 Před 3 lety

    you are the best ty !!!!!!!

  • @michaelwoodward3329
    @michaelwoodward3329 Před 3 lety

    Always steals immunity, never the invincibility. That's why mine stole invincibility on the first try.

  • @kathyredmond5724
    @kathyredmond5724 Před 3 lety

    Thanks

  • @ryanschramm2135
    @ryanschramm2135 Před 2 lety

    when are you doing a guide for the new mock battle floors?

  • @blakemattan1612
    @blakemattan1612 Před 2 lety

    There must has been an update or change. The attack order is out of line on some of them.

  • @luhcsgrimm8857
    @luhcsgrimm8857 Před 3 lety

    It won't always steal the immunity btw, his second skill was always taking the Invulnerability

  • @emiliocuevas41
    @emiliocuevas41 Před 3 lety +2

    I just followed seanb to beat it and I got 3 stars in all 20 stages. Its ez everythings in a specific order nothing is rng. The enemys atk pattern Is already set.
    Edit: btw bagel whens the cam gonna come back on? Ik you prob still have bandages but Im just curious and I hope your doing well

  • @lisastormo5803
    @lisastormo5803 Před 2 lety

    Even when I do exactly the same as shown, sometimes my units are getting their turn out of order, meaning I cant finish in time :

  • @endoftoiletpaper9193
    @endoftoiletpaper9193 Před 3 lety +1

    You da best

  • @nexus6100
    @nexus6100 Před 3 lety +1

    Are you sure RNG plays a factor in this? From me do it it seems that you always get the same RNG based on the order you do stuff. Specifically if you're doing stuff in the right order the debuff will always land or always crit when it's supposed to the same way each time. So like if you redo these and follow the guide you should land the same debuffs on the same monsters every time and crit the same monsters at the same time every time.

  • @jamess359
    @jamess359 Před rokem

    Just a heads up, video is outdated on certain stages. I ran them over and over with no success. Didn't happen with all the stages, just some.

  • @legenderry25
    @legenderry25 Před 2 lety

    these things are not the same anymore, had to do #9 differently as different things keep happening in the order shown and so is #10.. for me at least.

  • @RamenLlama
    @RamenLlama Před 3 lety

    already 100%ed this content WHY am i watching this video
    baggel

  • @ruiguilhas8686
    @ruiguilhas8686 Před 3 lety +1

    Hay bagel good vid just want to tell you there is no RNG involved its all scripted. That is why if you hit a certain mon on a certain turn you will resist or miss crit but on next turn land everything.

  • @WilhelminaRa
    @WilhelminaRa Před 3 lety +1

    RNG is no factor in this battle, you will always crit in the same turn on the same enemy. You always get the same debuffs on the enem or yourself in certain turns . Just try it for yourself, when you start the battle do it 5 times the same way and you will realize,that all crits and debuffs are allways at the same time.Thats the only way to manage the challenge in a certain amount of time. The ankleshot thing for example ,you wont win if the stun wont work, but you always stun and you always freeze, you allways decrease the atb of konamiya. That makes this gamemode just a big puzzle with multile solutionorders. I repeat, every turn will have predefined buffs,debuffs,crits and so on, also the enemies will always atack the same targets in the respective turns, when you repeat the battles in the same order,you will see that.

  • @IamCoalfoot
    @IamCoalfoot Před 3 lety +1

    Well, if I'm gonna watch this I may as well do this, and if I'm gonna do this I may as well do it on all three Islands.
    ... why do I maintain three islands, I don't even-

  • @heinskarte4235
    @heinskarte4235 Před 2 lety

    Idk Stage 13 is really not working, i did it 10 times the way its in the Video but the Tetra has more HP than in the Video and lifes...

  • @jessec5089
    @jessec5089 Před rokem +2

    These are no longer accurate. Seems like Com2us changed some of the turn order and debuffs that land. Oh well...

  • @Naugrim1
    @Naugrim1 Před 3 lety

    nope there is no rng involved in this fights. it only depends when do u use the skill. for example the stage with khali - she will not crit on a certain turn. i did every step exactly the same - she never crits that turn / in this particular turn/skill order

  • @lexjordan9910
    @lexjordan9910 Před 3 lety

    This is Golden!

  • @HankeyCamping
    @HankeyCamping Před 3 lety

    Still no facecam?
    How is the schnoz?
    You sound just fine!
    No nasal voice or something like that.

  • @chriscarey1898
    @chriscarey1898 Před 3 lety

    Summoned a Rica (one of my mosted wanted) and a Moore (dupe) from the mystic scrolls from these mock battles.

  • @opegamin
    @opegamin Před rokem

    Block heals not working for me on stage 9 suri to tanya, works on the water mons, but thats it

  • @ashleyquiambao14
    @ashleyquiambao14 Před 3 lety +1

    Any idea if this tower reset also? Coz i mean if this shit doesnt reset its absolutely trash for putting it on the game

  • @nomadric4188
    @nomadric4188 Před 3 lety +1

    Comment for algorithm❤️

  • @sorcey9532
    @sorcey9532 Před 2 lety

    Only 1 of the fights had different buffs and procs, but the rest of them are the same.... Btw, I have 27 battles not 20, where can I find the rest?

  • @Doggof2p
    @Doggof2p Před 3 lety +1

    He got chica as pfp... poggers

  • @ApatheticGemini
    @ApatheticGemini Před 3 lety

    Can anyone tell me why my elsharion isn’t procing his cont damage on Beth? Idk if it’s the reason im not able to complete it or not but I always miss the target by 1 turn, Floor 10

  • @omni-archon4444
    @omni-archon4444 Před 3 lety

    I like it .

  • @nokrian8005
    @nokrian8005 Před 3 lety

    Спасибо :)

  • @user-cw5rt2zk7o
    @user-cw5rt2zk7o Před 3 lety

    Thx

  • @HasanPikerIsADouche
    @HasanPikerIsADouche Před 3 lety +2

    I should've waited, instead I spent 2 hours immediately after the update to beat all of them with 3 stats
    Actually the most fun I had in SW in awhile, so I guess it wasn't that bad lol.

  • @aspire8388
    @aspire8388 Před 3 lety +1

    oh my the text for facecam changed... great excitement

  • @hextonic9948
    @hextonic9948 Před 3 lety

    its so funny to me, that all the maps i found were just obvious from the get go. bagel say's oh dang, this one so hard. then near every one i struggled with, he say's eh. this was easy you just (f(x)±g(x))′=f′(x)±g′(x) ..... kay. o.o

  • @cslance6863
    @cslance6863 Před 3 lety

    I got Zaiross from mine. (Ancient crystals)

  • @mcdobby1298
    @mcdobby1298 Před 3 lety

    For battle 6 I used Nisha 3rd skill first and got all three stars

  • @TattedRaven-jd8vc
    @TattedRaven-jd8vc Před 3 lety

    you shouldve honestly used your webcam in this video because every time yu were guessing on wat attack to use i assumed it was correct for when it was wrong considering we couldn't see you were reading the sheet for which attack to use. Done this multiply times and it just kinda frustrated me.

  • @TheRizzar
    @TheRizzar Před 2 lety

    Sorry to say but monsters move different than this guide on floors 5 10 12 haven't gotten any further than floor 12 atm.

  • @BonkMasterFlex
    @BonkMasterFlex Před 3 lety

    No RNG applies. As long as you do it the correct way, everything happens exactly the same. Even the damage is identical.

  • @wnl_dusten7753
    @wnl_dusten7753 Před 3 lety

    I pulled a wind demon from the new battle traning

  • @sparklysilvally1944
    @sparklysilvally1944 Před 3 lety

    from the 20 MS I got a Teshar, lmao. Didn't have him yet either.

    • @chillx656
      @chillx656 Před 3 lety

      Gz i really want him and everyone seems to have him