Wonderful piece of engineering, one of the many examples. Thank you the enthusiastic staff and volunteers who keep these engines on the rails and out of the museum (well at least until their retirement)
Nobody who has commented that this is dangerous understands how full barrier crossings work. If the gates were able to be opened then the protecting signals MUST be stopping any trains approaching…..which is why the train stopped at the signal. The signalman and the white van man did nothing wrong! Relax!!
@Aussie Pom Actually he is right. The signal behaved exactly as it should. Whether Scotsman had to make an emergency stop or was able to do a controlled stop I don't know. It is difficult to see whether or not the front of the loco is past the signal, but then the signal would have turned to red literally in front of the train. In different circumstances this potentially could have led to fatalities.
@Mr M: The same here in Germany. The crossing is either manually operated and monitored if the barriers are closed and no vehicles or pedestrians are caught, then the protecting signal will be manually switched to green light when the gatekeeper has checked it. If the barriers are opened, signal will always show red light due to technically dependencies. Or the crossing is monitored automatically via optical and radar sensors. If anything is not OK in both cases, the protecting signal will keep on red and the train has to stop. No danger!
@@Banditchappi Here in America we have freight trains with hundreds of cars that can take the better part of a mile to stop. A malfunctioning crossing will be noted and reported after the train rushes through. Everyone is constantly taught to know that trains cannot stop for you, so stay out of the way or get hit!
@@millomweb Not true! Nobody wants the taking of a life on their hands. If someone is obstructing the tracks, as soon as the engineer (our name for what you call a train driver) notices, he immediately puts the train in emergency stop mode and begins blasting the horn, hoping that a collision or injury can be avoided.
What those curmudgeons who complain about the noise of excited children fail to realise is that steam railway preservation, if it has a future, will soon be in their hands, among those who will remember that "My Dad took me to Sleaford to see Flying Scotsman" as keenly as the "old-timers" remember standing on a platform or at the lineside with a pencil and notebook in the "good old days".
As a 'curmudgeon' as well as a railway enthusiast (and it being hugely in my family history), I was brought up to listen intently to the sounds the train makes, which are indicative of its specific engine and the general operation of each steam engine class. You can't properly hear that if you're yattering on about nothing in particular. I used to be able to identify an engine type just by its sound.
@@fluffyfour With some footplate experience myself, I'm quite aware that listening to the sounds of a locomotive, and how its "chopping off" its exhaust for example, is a prime indicator of its performance, and hearing the tell-tale noises if anything is going amiss is as valuable as visual observation... I don't think I'd risk telling my mate to "shut up" though, in the unlikely event that he was in your schoolmasterly phrase "yattering on about nothing in particular", Bravo for your locomotive identification skills, you obviously had a good deal of opportunity to hone them over a long period of time. But for these youngsters, it was a one off opportunity to observe the majesty of a famous steam engine in action so it's no wonder that they were excited. If we're to have steam engines operating on our main lines in the future (and remember the "steam ban" at the end of BR steam, when nothing was allowed to run?) It'll be in the hands of these young people when they grow up, not in those who demand concert hall quiet while they indulge in their nostalgia for times past. If you want to do that there are plenty of videos and recordings which you can lock yourself away in a soundproofed room and enjoy to your heart's content.
Thanks for sharing Tim. Makes me think of my granddad working on the Flying Scotsman at southall whenever it was time to do replace the worn parts. Love the commentary from the kids too.
As great as the enthusiasm Flying Scotsman gets, it saddens me that the general public behave like Flying Scotsman is the ONLY steam engine allowed on the main line! If you mention other engines worthy of viewing you will nearly always get a response of mis-interest!
Probably similar a bit to last year, here in US, when Union Pacific revived an old 4884 and ran her cross country. Caught a ton of attention, but we definitely have more than one steam locomotive in operation, and Americans love to see them run.
I've just booked a steam train excursion not sure if the name of the engine but it belongs to the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland which is a cross border initiative 🚂🚂♥️♥️♥️♥️
Travelled on a train pulled by the flying Scotsman with my parents from Newcastle, August 1961 . Went to Berlin to visit family . The Berlin wall was erected on our visit. Whoa 2 events !
He’s pulling way more than I thought it could! Wow! That child was funny listening to him initially singing flying………. Scotsman!…….. Then devolved into a general anything goes. Hopefully he enjoyed it as much as his dad!
great to hear a child so happy and joining in the fun with his or her own commentary. so many kids you can't get a conversation out of these days stuck on their i pad phones and computers. the youngster made it for me . let's all join in 'FLY...ING ..SCOTSMAN!' ha
I'm told that as a preschooler I was taken to see the last steam train pass by from Quebec City to Montréal... 1957? Sadly, I don't remember a bit of it.
I'm gonna be travelling behind the A3 in a few days time when it's paired up with 60163 Tornado for the A1 & A3 railtours over the Settle and Carlisle Line on 20/10/21 & 21/10/21.
Fantastic to see so many people waiting for a steam train. Those youngsters will remember this for sometime to come and may even assimilate them into railway enthusiasts. Bit of a dodgy escapade with the barriers though.
As a school boy in the 1950s I would be put on the train in London for the trip to Wrexham, N Wales for summer holiday on my uncles farm. When I got back to school my teacher did not believe my essay on the summer hols.
The Flying Scotsman is a beautiful loco. I live in the USA too but had the good fortune to see the FS pass through North Wales about 5 years ago. I love that dozens (hundreds?) of people come out along the route to see it! I dont feel like that would happen in the USA.
I was in Sleaford on Monday (11 Oct). Son was being interviewed at RAF Cranwell. Treated myself to a nice cooked breakfast (silver spoon) and bought a new watch strap (Sleaford jewellers) and they treated me as a gent despite only spending £6, I was too common in the other jeweller.
Seeing references to and I quote "Real Rail Enthusiasts" can anyone define what makes someone a "Real Rail Enthusiast" as opposed to anyone else who likes looking at trains? In my experience, there IS a certain type (Puffer Nutters as they are referred to by the train crews!) that seems to think that they alone have had a divine right (self conferred of course) to arrive when it suits them, and march right upfront and block the view other people who have waited patiently and politely to watch the locomotive of their choice to arrive and do its thing, and of course, to complain about anyone they feel is not up to scratch, however, my definition may be different to others! I await responses with bated breath!
So pleased to see such a turn out for live steam. Yes, the little voices could be annoying but rather they were there as potential passengers/supporters of the future and their parents who probably won’t have been around when steam was commonplace.
But they are only pretend rail enthusiasts who are not that interested in trains. The 'Scotsman' has been hyped up that much they'll think it's the only steam loco.
@@typhoon-7 Yes, of course they are genuinely interested in the 'Scotsman'. The issue is it's for the wrong reasons. Read my original comment again. This loco has been hyped up in the media for years. It's become like a product in a tv ad that's shoved in your face night after night. You're more likely to go out and try it/buy it because of that. Therefore many who come out for the 'Scotsman' are not interested in trains in general and will never be.
It’s a great sight in all its pomp, but remember it’s a bit like Trigger’s broom (look up Only Fools and Horses for non U.K. viewers). Hardly an original bit on it. Doesn’t detract from the conservation achievement and how amazing it looks in full steam though.
The top of my head is probably in this video! I was standing on the Southgate side of the crossing. When the barriers had closed, about four people were on the wrong side, in a little refuge area in the middle of the road. The British Transport Police at the crossing told the trespassers that they shouldn't be there and that they were now trespassing on railway property. This was met with a mixture of amusement and resignation. Shortly afterwards, the police said the barriers were going to be reopened and the miscreants must move. The trespassers were standing in an area that the police ended up using themselves. Arguably it made the situation more dangerous because people took the opportunity to run across the crossing and the traffic lights changed, enabling some vehicles to cross while pedestrians were still in the road. The police told the trespassers that the train had been stopped and that it was their fault. It wasn't obvious to me that the train really had come to a halt as it wasn't in view until it had almost reached the crossing. I have video from both level crossings which I'll upload at some point.
Crossing gates and signals are interlocked so for the barriers to be raised again if the signal had been green for Scotsman it would of had to be returned to Danger for 2 minuets before the barriers unlocked and could be raised. Technically the police were right the people were trespassing but a bit of common sense should of been used and Scotsman let through, these days we seem to cause ourselves more problems trying to dot every I. There is more chance someone could of fallen running over the crossing and hurt them self than being harmed by Stcotsman while standing on the wrong side of the barrier.
Luck played, I think, a pretty big role in preventing a catastrophe. First, it looks like Scotsman was able to do an emergency/controlled stop before, or perhaps just after, the clear signal turned to danger. Second, Police were at the scene already for crowd control so, even though they may have been confused why the crossing went up they were able to prevent/deter more people going across or accessing the track. Third, judging by the signal box & the fact there were people in the signal box the level crossing is manned &, more importantly, in clear view of the signal box meaning that signallers were alerted & able to reactivate the crossing & see the danger quicker than if they were in a control room on the other side of the county. As too why the crossing deactivated it could be down to human error or technical error. There might be a minimum time between when the crossing finishes its cycle & can start its cycle again. Clearly, however, the signal protecting the crossing did turn red when the crossing deactivated which is exactly what is supposed to happen. UPDATE I read further down that the gates were opened to let trespassers off the track.
Do prefer the yank, Train whistles. 3 or 4 notes, bloody good deep harmonic sounds. But no loco is a badun. Gorgeous stuff. Thank You, who ever is paying the bills to keep it going.
So great to see this epic locomotive! we didn't get to see the last carriage, but it looks like there were 15 in all!!!! 😮 How much power does this beast actually have??????????
I gather it's been given a "boost" over the years from either 200psi to 220 or 220psi up to 240. Same power roughly as an A4 (60007 Sir Nigel Gresley or 4464 Bittern). Personally the A4s are the flagship machines, but everyone loves Scotty....
The crossing is closed??? The barrier remains down on the left, the lights are flashing red and it’s not open? The green traffic light is for another road
Huh? All four barriers are open at 0:56 and wll have been for as long as you saw the barriers on the right open. The amber warning light for the crossing comes on at 1:17, at which point the white van is already almost across and the black car has already entered the crossing. The flashing red lights at the crossing come on at 1:21.
And I've seen it at my local heritage railway twice and its been empty on both occasions so why so many flood to see it on mainline tours I do not know, especially if its not charging down the line at 75mph
What's in a name! Plenty more equally impressive steam locos in existence, with greater performance abilities to boot. Nevertheless 'Flying Scotman' is a nice locomotive amongst many like her.
Wow what a lot of old grumps in the comments, most of us were surely enthusiastic youngsters around the railway at sometime, I can remember almost weeing myself with excitement on more than one occasion and I don't ever remember being told off for it by "grown ups". Makes me a bit sad that so many find the sound of happy children to be so annoying.
Some very selfish holier than thou old people out there, they are so often those that turn up on Steam rail charters buying the cheapest tickets with their own pork pies and crisps "no one is making any money out of me" and whinge when charter operators do not offer the service levels they think they are entitled to! I am so glad I am not in the steam charter business!!!
I work on the railway and I love that kids are interested and involved and crucially, observing from a safe place. The worst thing is these miserable old buggers trespassing with ladders trying to get a photo. I'd throw the book at the lot of them.
It's nothing but a hyped up loco. That's why all the pretend train enthusiasts are out. There are far more deserving steam engines they could see but dont even know about them.
@@AndreA-ke2id Are you always this haughty taughty to "normie" rail fans who get excited over THE FLYING fucking SCOTSMAN? are you serious. i can't imagine being bitter responding to a comment like this. you need to lighten up.
@@tigercarings And you're obviously just a foul mouthed kid. As I said in my last reply, you have missed the point of my original comment completely. End of. Bye bye.
@@AndreA-ke2id - agreed - far too much public money spent on this bucket of bolts. I'd rather see Mallard back on the rails (at least it has a decent whistle LOL !).
The last time I saw Flying Scotsman it had a couple of Transport Police on duty on the platform and they did book a couple of people for ignoring signs not to cross a white line, with another person walking past the police and was stood on the track, he was quickly moved as a fast moving 2,000 ton trains was due, I think some people just have a death wish.
Where do these marvels of mechanical engineering take on their water? Water troughs were a feature on the railways during the steam era. Today's main feature is overhead gantries for power. Won't be too long until this engine reaches it's 100th birthday !
Interesting that some people are complaining about children's voices. I have some experience of sad grumpy old men "puffer nutters" as they are referred to by those inside the railway game! Old men who seem to think THEY have an absolute right to take the best positions to take pictures regardless of how long younger people have been waiting in to take THEIR pictures. It comes as no suprise to find they also inhabit the comments sections of You Tube videos as well. Far cough I say.
What you're referring to are real rail enthusiasts, and it's a shame you have to be disrespectful to them. The rest, especially with all the noisy kids are only pretend rail enthusiasts who are not that interested in trains. The 'Scotsman' has been hyped up that much they'll think it's the only steam loco. Why don't you show some disrespect to them ??
@@AndreA-ke2id So what you are saying is anyone who behaves like a braying bully is an enthusiast, yet anyone who will be around to carry steam on after they have been nailed in their boxes is simply to be dismissed as an irritation? You are condemned by your own words.
@@AndreA-ke2id Care to explain how I misunderstood "the rest with the noisey kids are only pretend rail enthusiasts" ! Thankfully the youngsters will be around enjoying Steam Locomotives much longer than so many grumpy old people (I am 64 myself!) that seem to think THEY are the only people interested in Steam Locomotives! And have an absolute right to front row seats and silence simply because they are fans!!! You are talking complete HOGWASH
Wouldn't make the effort to go see it myself. Only ever taken two photos of the thing when it was in the NRM workshop.. Mind you I am a dyed in the wool LMS man
The first photo I took of FS was a close up of Alan Pegler (the guy who saved the loco in the first place) in the cab. The sheer joy on his face was wonderful.
I'm an American lady so please forgive my ignorance. Where is original engine with the #1472? Is it in a museum? Or did # change? My dad worked for RRs & I grew up riding steam trains around the U.S. I've seen many Flying Scotsman videos & if I had $$ I'd fly to UK just to ride the Scotsman. I miss steam trains! There's nothing like the smell of the cars + sound of engine idling in the station!
The locomotive was renumbered multiple times during her career. Originally built for the Great Northern Railway as number 1472 but, by the time she was delivered, the GNR had been merged into the London and North Eastern Railway and she became 4472 and later 103, before being renumbered 60103 by the nationalized British Railways.
The world is full of sour, unhappy people. The kids were no problem. It was obviously a family outing and the kids were having fun with their dad. Some people need to get a life.
The position and number of the headlight(s) form a headcode that describes the type of service - express passenger, local passenger, goods train fully braked / partially braked (ie: some goods wagons do not have brakes), royal train, etc
Yes, it's the Flying Scotsman. It has had no less than six different numbers during its working life. 1. Originally No 1472 of the Great Northern Railway,, built in 1922. 2. Like all ex-GNR locos it had 3,000 added to its number in 1923 to avoid duplication with locos of the former North Eastern Railway when those two companies and four others merged to form the London & North Eastern Railway. 3. In 1941 the LNER renumbered its locos into more consistent groups, the A3 Pacifics being given numbers from 500 upwards, No 4472 becoming 502. 4. The renumbering scheme was modified in 1946, with this loco becoming No 103. 5. On nationalisation in 1948 all ex-LNER locos had 60,000 added to their numbers, again to avoid duplication with locos from the other railways, 103 becoming 60103 as seen in this video. It does sometimes appear in earlier numbers and liveries, but because of modifications to it during its working life the British Railways colours and number are the most authentic . The sixth number? All steam locomotives are known to Network Rail's computerised systems as Class 98, and officially, whatever it says on the side, the loco is No 98872
British railway lines are fully protected by fences, so there's no need to have a headlight to see ahead on the track. Headlamps, in those days, were just used to designate the type of train that was being run, along the lines of class lights in the US.
Great catch! I caught her at Kings Cross at the weekend and chased her around a few days earlier. Idea is on my channel if you are interested. I’ve subscribed to you 🙂
As an Australian who, in 1988/9, was able to see 4472 (sans smoke deflectors) many times on her extended visit I completely agree with you. She's historic: let's keep her in her LNER conformation.
I fail to see any problem here??.. the train was more than 2 minutes away so quite rightly the crossing was opened. There's absolutely no need for crossings to be closed for so long before the train comes
That's the signalman's job. It's normal procedure to open the gates when no train is cleared to pass, and to close them prior to clearing the signals to allow a train to pass. The gates and signals are in fact interlocked, and cannot be opened when the approach signals are cleared.
This film could have done with abit of editing - too much not happening for first two minutes. Then the film clip finishes before all of the train has passed through! Rule no. 1 - never end a film before all of a train (that you're filming) has passed through a station. It looks amateurish otherwise.
How the hell did this happen? It could have been the end of the pretending to be Flying Scotsman Loco. The man in the dayglow jacket was doing nothing to stop people or vehicles from going across. Luckily, nobody was hurt. Martin. (Thailand)
I don't know about the situation in Thailand, but on railways in Britain, when the gates are open, it is safe to cross. I'm not sure why you think someone in a dayglow jacket should be trying to stop people using the crossing when the gates are open. Isn't that what the crossing is for?
@@bingola45 I agree, but he must have known that the train was coming, that is why he was there. I may be in Thailand, but I am English born and bred. Thank you for your reply. As for the railways in Thailand, there is very little coverage of the country. But, China is building an Express Service from Bangkok to somewhere up North.
@@martinpattison1567 There is no 'train coming' when the gates are open. Before a train can be 'coming', it must be accepted by the signalman, and signalled through. This cannot happen until the gates are closed. They are interlocked to prevent it.
The kids' excitement is great. Shame about the weeds. It's hard to get excited about the railways when the new owners can't be bothered to look after them any longer. Damn Maggie Thatcher.
What an utterly stupid and ignorant comment. Should have stopped after your first sentence. What 'new owners' and why 'Damn Maggie Thatcher'? Or are you just some random leftie feeling the need?
@@1chish don't worry, thatchers damned herself twice - once over the miners and their families and again over the falklands debacle and the lives that wasted on both sides.
@@royfearn4345 Oh not another leftie .... No she isn't damned in the minds of the vast majority of teh electorate as she won three elections increasing her majority at each one. Your Leftie views are in the deep minority Roy. Sorry. No the miners brought it all on themselves led by that utter moron Scargill (who was funded by the Russian embassy) who missed the right time to call a strike the year earlier when stocks were low. Maggie built up coal stocks which paid the miners a lot of extra wages and they thought they had won. But Scargill was out thought and out manoeuvred by Thatcher. When he finally went for the strike we didn't need the mines that year. The coal industry was a declining industry and not every miner supported Scargill. I know because my late grandfather was a Nottingham miner and they all hated the idiot. Now on the other matter you just pissed on the graves of 255 graves of the bravest most evil humoured people and I had the privilege to know a few. So screw you Roy! No lives were wasted (and never would be) recovering British soil and freeing British people from an invading army. People who were treated terribly and had their homes left with shit on the floors by a bunch of Argie animals. That you think they were not worth fighting for says more about your shallow values than anything I can say. I can tell you very simply that if asked again to go back we would all have done so with no regrets. Maggie did not cause that war the Argies did. No one else. Only Leftie Loons like you try and make out otherwise. Be careful who you disrespect Roy.
Contemplate some facts before blaming Maggie for the break-up of the railways, chum. It was Major, years after Thatcher had left the leadership. She wasn't to blame for everything you hate, despite your prejudice (and was to be celebrated for many things more that she helped us to achieve!)
@@1chish Well said @1chish, the sad little Roy's of this world would be the first to complain had the Falklands interrupted their sad little lives far better that brave men die to allow them to make stupid comments on tinternet!!!
That’s a big mistake they should have pulled the barriers down and close it not leave it up otherwise that loco would have hit the person or a vehicle on the track
Wonderful piece of engineering, one of the many examples. Thank you the enthusiastic staff and volunteers who keep these engines on the rails and out of the museum (well at least until their retirement)
And so say all of us who hold our engineering standards so high. Well done all volunteers
Nobody who has commented that this is dangerous understands how full barrier crossings work. If the gates were able to be opened then the protecting signals MUST be stopping any trains approaching…..which is why the train stopped at the signal. The signalman and the white van man did nothing wrong! Relax!!
@Aussie Pom Actually he is right. The signal behaved exactly as it should. Whether Scotsman had to make an emergency stop or was able to do a controlled stop I don't know. It is difficult to see whether or not the front of the loco is past the signal, but then the signal would have turned to red literally in front of the train. In different circumstances this potentially could have led to fatalities.
@Mr M: The same here in Germany. The crossing is either manually operated and monitored if the barriers are closed and no vehicles or pedestrians are caught, then the protecting signal will be manually switched to green light when the gatekeeper has checked it. If the barriers are opened, signal will always show red light due to technically dependencies. Or the crossing is monitored automatically via optical and radar sensors. If anything is not OK in both cases, the protecting signal will keep on red and the train has to stop. No danger!
@@Banditchappi Here in America we have freight trains with hundreds of cars that can take the better part of a mile to stop. A malfunctioning crossing will be noted and reported after the train rushes through. Everyone is constantly taught to know that trains cannot stop for you, so stay out of the way or get hit!
@@ethanlamoureux5306 I can understand the impacts but I do realise train drivers there don't bother braking until after the impact !
@@millomweb Not true! Nobody wants the taking of a life on their hands. If someone is obstructing the tracks, as soon as the engineer (our name for what you call a train driver) notices, he immediately puts the train in emergency stop mode and begins blasting the horn, hoping that a collision or injury can be avoided.
What those curmudgeons who complain about the noise of excited children fail to realise is that steam railway preservation, if it has a future, will soon be in their hands, among those who will remember that "My Dad took me to Sleaford to see Flying Scotsman" as keenly as the "old-timers" remember standing on a platform or at the lineside with a pencil and notebook in the "good old days".
Exactly! Brilliantly put Sir. Brilliantly put.
As a 'curmudgeon' as well as a railway enthusiast (and it being hugely in my family history), I was brought up to listen intently to the sounds the train makes, which are indicative of its specific engine and the general operation of each steam engine class. You can't properly hear that if you're yattering on about nothing in particular. I used to be able to identify an engine type just by its sound.
@@fluffyfour With some footplate experience myself, I'm quite aware that listening to the sounds of a locomotive, and how its "chopping off" its exhaust for example, is a prime indicator of its performance, and hearing the tell-tale noises if anything is going amiss is as valuable as visual observation... I don't think I'd risk telling my mate to "shut up" though, in the unlikely event that he was in your schoolmasterly phrase "yattering on about nothing in particular",
Bravo for your locomotive identification skills, you obviously had a good deal of opportunity to hone them over a long period of time. But for these youngsters, it was a one off opportunity to observe the majesty of a famous steam engine in action so it's no wonder that they were excited.
If we're to have steam engines operating on our main lines in the future (and remember the "steam ban" at the end of BR steam, when nothing was allowed to run?) It'll be in the hands of these young people when they grow up, not in those who demand concert hall quiet while they indulge in their nostalgia for times past.
If you want to do that there are plenty of videos and recordings which you can lock yourself away in a soundproofed room and enjoy to your heart's content.
Huge Rainbird, well said. From a US retired license steam engine engineer. I miss them days.
@@hughrainbird43 The person who is telling everyone to shut up was the 1st person to start talking everybody shut up but me I get to talk
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The young man said it all. "It is HUGE"!!!
Yeah but me being American, ah decent size for a steam locomotive possible not even as big as N&W 611
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So did my prospective wife .
@@us_air_force4739 But not as big as 4014
@@seandelaney1423 Presumably only ever prospective until she found out it wasn't ;-)
Thanks for sharing Tim. Makes me think of my granddad working on the Flying Scotsman at southall whenever it was time to do replace the worn parts. Love the commentary from the kids too.
As great as the enthusiasm Flying Scotsman gets, it saddens me that the general public behave like Flying Scotsman is the ONLY steam engine allowed on the main line! If you mention other engines worthy of viewing you will nearly always get a response of mis-interest!
So surely you should be happy that when one of the other locomotives you deem worthy of viewing there are no kids to get in the way?
Probably similar a bit to last year, here in US, when Union Pacific revived an old 4884 and ran her cross country. Caught a ton of attention, but we definitely have more than one steam locomotive in operation, and Americans love to see them run.
@@rjpx947 ooo hi hi
@@I_am_NEVER_wrong mj
I've just booked a steam train excursion not sure if the name of the engine but it belongs to the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland which is a cross border initiative 🚂🚂♥️♥️♥️♥️
Travelled on a train pulled by the flying Scotsman with my parents from Newcastle, August 1961 . Went to Berlin to visit family . The Berlin wall was erected on our visit. Whoa 2 events !
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He’s pulling way more than I thought it could! Wow!
That child was funny listening to him initially singing flying………. Scotsman!……..
Then devolved into a general anything goes.
Hopefully he enjoyed it as much as his dad!
great to hear a child so happy and joining in the fun with his or her own commentary. so many kids you can't get a conversation out of these days stuck on their i pad phones and computers. the youngster made it for me . let's all join in 'FLY...ING ..SCOTSMAN!' ha
"He’s pulling way more than I thought it could! Wow!" - did you notice the diesel loco on the end ???
At one time this sight would have been commonplace and people wouldn't have batted an eyelid. And within a short time they were gone
I'm told that as a preschooler I was taken to see the last steam train pass by from Quebec City to Montréal... 1957? Sadly, I don't remember a bit of it.
I was on that train 👍🏻 It was a fantastic day out from Kings cross 😀
I'm gonna be travelling behind the A3 in a few days time when it's paired up with 60163 Tornado for the A1 & A3 railtours over the Settle and Carlisle Line on 20/10/21 & 21/10/21.
so was i
I would love to see the British steam engines again.
Not too many here in Australia.
There are plenty in Victoria. There is a whole volunteer group out of Newport Workshops dedicated to Steam engines and older diesel locomotives
Don’t forget the Pichi Richi in South Australia (in fire-free seasons), also the Cockle Train from Goolwa to Victor Harbor.
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That's why they used to have a bobby in the box.
Love the commentary from the kids, brilliant.
Fantastic to see so many people waiting for a steam train. Those youngsters will remember this for sometime to come and may even assimilate them into railway enthusiasts. Bit of a dodgy escapade with the barriers though.
As a school boy in the 1950s I would be put on the train in London for the trip to Wrexham, N Wales for summer holiday on my uncles farm. When I got back to school my teacher did not believe my essay on the summer hols.
If it was "Tornado" or "Duchess of Sunderland" or "Clun Castle", most of them wouldn't be there!
If it was "Tornado" or "Duchess of Sunderland" or "Clun Castle", most of them wouldn't be there!
Nice one mate really cool video looks awesome don 🤠🇬🇧👍👍👍👌👌
Greetings from America
Love the steam engine
The Flying Scotsman is a beautiful loco. I live in the USA too but had the good fortune to see the FS pass through North Wales about 5 years ago. I love that dozens (hundreds?) of people come out along the route to see it! I dont feel like that would happen in the USA.
Fun fact: the Scotsman visited America once.
Unfortunately it came back.
@@BlackcloudRailways You must be fun at parties!! 🥳
Love the excitement of the children so it's not just mine that get excited over steam trains
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I love the steam engines.
I think I was one of the people you mentioned the children's running commentary to!
I was in Sleaford on Monday (11 Oct). Son was being interviewed at RAF Cranwell. Treated myself to a nice cooked breakfast (silver spoon) and bought a new watch strap (Sleaford jewellers) and they treated me as a gent despite only spending £6, I was too common in the other jeweller.
relevance, your honor?
@@bussesandtrains1218 Life is a Web.
Can't argue with that
I enjoyed seeing an engine ,smoke and all.my dad use to be an engine driver many moons ago in SA🇿🇦
That beat typical gresley engine 3cyliders fantastic 😁😁😁
Seeing references to and I quote "Real Rail Enthusiasts" can anyone define what makes someone a "Real Rail Enthusiast" as opposed to anyone else who likes looking at trains? In my experience, there IS a certain type (Puffer Nutters as they are referred to by the train crews!) that seems to think that they alone have had a divine right (self conferred of course) to arrive when it suits them, and march right upfront and block the view other people who have waited patiently and politely to watch the locomotive of their choice to arrive and do its thing, and of course, to complain about anyone they feel is not up to scratch, however, my definition may be different to others! I await responses with bated breath!
that happens everywhere now , entitled people who think they have every right ti do what they like an it's gettin worse , aye !
@@thomasw.glasgow7449 Oh Lord, please don't us end up like the yanks in America.
A "real rail enthusiast" is a rail enthusiast who shares the prejudices of the person who is using the term.
So pleased to see such a turn out for live steam. Yes, the little voices could be annoying but rather they were there as potential passengers/supporters of the future and their parents who probably won’t have been around when steam was commonplace.
But they are only pretend rail enthusiasts who are not that interested in trains. The 'Scotsman' has been hyped up that much they'll think it's the only steam loco.
@@AndreA-ke2id don't need that mate, their there enjoying the day, what is real anyway...STOP IT.
@@AndreA-ke2id If they're genuinely interested they'll find others and other train types etc... Not sure what the issue is?
@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Nobody said they weren't enjoying it. You obviously missed the point of my comment.
@@typhoon-7 Yes, of course they are genuinely interested in the 'Scotsman'. The issue is it's for the wrong reasons. Read my original comment again. This loco has been hyped up in the media for years. It's become like a product in a tv ad that's shoved in your face night after night. You're more likely to go out and try it/buy it because of that. Therefore many who come out for the 'Scotsman' are not interested in trains in general and will never be.
What's the panic, its not going 90mph
What a beautiful engine
Crossing gates open, crossing gates close, nothing to see here move along....
Good to see she still has a Pathetic excuse of a whistle
It's more of a frightened squeak ... :)
The Flying Scotsman was a great speedy ride in December 1978
Beautiful locomotive. Whistle makes it sound like a toy.
Probably good that my dad's dead. He'd be more disappointed than I am - dressed up all wrong.
It’s a great sight in all its pomp, but remember it’s a bit like Trigger’s broom (look up Only Fools and Horses for non U.K. viewers). Hardly an original bit on it. Doesn’t detract from the conservation achievement and how amazing it looks in full steam though.
Love the kids commentary, really makes the video special, if only my kids loved steam locomotives that much...
love it thank you
More like a crawling scotsman. A bit of wheelspin - no surprise pulling a diesel loco as well as the carriages.
Why was she running wrong rail? Does anyone have an answer
The top of my head is probably in this video! I was standing on the Southgate side of the crossing. When the barriers had closed, about four people were on the wrong side, in a little refuge area in the middle of the road. The British Transport Police at the crossing told the trespassers that they shouldn't be there and that they were now trespassing on railway property. This was met with a mixture of amusement and resignation. Shortly afterwards, the police said the barriers were going to be reopened and the miscreants must move. The trespassers were standing in an area that the police ended up using themselves. Arguably it made the situation more dangerous because people took the opportunity to run across the crossing and the traffic lights changed, enabling some vehicles to cross while pedestrians were still in the road. The police told the trespassers that the train had been stopped and that it was their fault. It wasn't obvious to me that the train really had come to a halt as it wasn't in view until it had almost reached the crossing. I have video from both level crossings which I'll upload at some point.
Crossing gates and signals are interlocked so for the barriers to be raised again if the signal had been green for Scotsman it would of had to be returned to Danger for 2 minuets before the barriers unlocked and could be raised. Technically the police were right the people were trespassing but a bit of common sense should of been used and Scotsman let through, these days we seem to cause ourselves more problems trying to dot every I. There is more chance someone could of fallen running over the crossing and hurt them self than being harmed by Stcotsman while standing on the wrong side of the barrier.
@@cedarcam I don’t dot every i, I use a capital instead!
@@eddherring4972 OK Well you know what I mean
@@cedarcam "returned to Danger for 2 minuets": LOL! I hadn't realised this was a historical dance festival as well as a steam run...
@@williamwaynflete6336 LOL Yes I saw my wrong spelling. Oh well at least you got a laugh out of my error
The only thing that spoils it is the kid talking all the time
Luck played, I think, a pretty big role in preventing a catastrophe. First, it looks like Scotsman was able to do an emergency/controlled stop before, or perhaps just after, the clear signal turned to danger. Second, Police were at the scene already for crowd control so, even though they may have been confused why the crossing went up they were able to prevent/deter more people going across or accessing the track. Third, judging by the signal box & the fact there were people in the signal box the level crossing is manned &, more importantly, in clear view of the signal box meaning that signallers were alerted & able to reactivate the crossing & see the danger quicker than if they were in a control room on the other side of the county. As too why the crossing deactivated it could be down to human error or technical error. There might be a minimum time between when the crossing finishes its cycle & can start its cycle again. Clearly, however, the signal protecting the crossing did turn red when the crossing deactivated which is exactly what is supposed to happen.
UPDATE
I read further down that the gates were opened to let trespassers off the track.
Gawd I love the thumping and chuffing sound of a true marvel of engineering and steam!. Steam forever! 😃
Do prefer the yank, Train whistles. 3 or 4 notes, bloody good deep harmonic sounds. But no loco is a badun. Gorgeous stuff. Thank You, who ever is paying the bills to keep it going.
So great to see this epic locomotive! we didn't get to see the last carriage, but it looks like there were 15 in all!!!! 😮 How much power does this beast actually have??????????
I gather it's been given a "boost" over the years from either 200psi to 220 or 220psi up to 240. Same power roughly as an A4 (60007 Sir Nigel Gresley or 4464 Bittern).
Personally the A4s are the flagship machines, but everyone loves Scotty....
@@andrewphippsphillips1455 The question was how much power, not what pressure is the boiler.
Spectator mode be like:
Love your kids love of trains monologue!
I love the kid's commentary,he's so cute-
Level crossings give me major anxiety
The flying Scotsman doing its Bruce Forsyth impression at 3:54.
i love everything about it, except the little wimpy whistle. give it a manly whistle🤨
I love the crowds that this generates!
The crossing is closed??? The barrier remains down on the left, the lights are flashing red and it’s not open? The green traffic light is for another road
Huh? All four barriers are open at 0:56 and wll have been for as long as you saw the barriers on the right open. The amber warning light for the crossing comes on at 1:17, at which point the white van is already almost across and the black car has already entered the crossing. The flashing red lights at the crossing come on at 1:21.
And I've seen it at my local heritage railway twice and its been empty on both occasions so why so many flood to see it on mainline tours I do not know, especially if its not charging down the line at 75mph
Hi Custom, on the Wansford cam today?
@@inkysquid4 might be popping in and out of it mate 👍
Well, there's not that much to do in Sleaford :D
What's the PTC like over there?
theres 2, the Automatic Warning System (AWS) and Train Protection and Warning System (TPWS)
What's in a name!
Plenty more equally impressive steam locos in existence, with greater performance abilities to boot.
Nevertheless 'Flying Scotman' is a nice locomotive amongst many like her.
Wow what a lot of old grumps in the comments, most of us were surely enthusiastic youngsters around the railway at sometime, I can remember almost weeing myself with excitement on more than one occasion and I don't ever remember being told off for it by "grown ups". Makes me a bit sad that so many find the sound of happy children to be so annoying.
Some very selfish holier than thou old people out there, they are so often those that turn up on Steam rail charters buying the cheapest tickets with their own pork pies and crisps "no one is making any money out of me" and whinge when charter operators do not offer the service levels they think they are entitled to! I am so glad I am not in the steam charter business!!!
I work on the railway and I love that kids are interested and involved and crucially, observing from a safe place. The worst thing is these miserable old buggers trespassing with ladders trying to get a photo. I'd throw the book at the lot of them.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😊👍
Could I out this on Tik tok?
Excellent
Surprised that so called train enthusiasts don’t know how level crossings work.
More of a Lumbering Limey if you ask me
Love the narrative . . .
Nice bit of wheel spin and nice to a lot of public support out to see her.
It's nothing but a hyped up loco. That's why all the pretend train enthusiasts are out.
There are far more deserving steam engines they could see but dont even know about them.
@@AndreA-ke2id Are you always this haughty taughty to "normie" rail fans who get excited over THE FLYING fucking SCOTSMAN? are you serious. i can't imagine being bitter responding to a comment like this. you need to lighten up.
@@tigercarings And you're obviously just a foul mouthed kid. As I said in my last reply, you have missed the point of my original comment completely. End of. Bye bye.
@@ballbag Missed the point if comment completely. You must be about 8yrs old.
@@AndreA-ke2id - agreed - far too much public money spent on this bucket of bolts. I'd rather see Mallard back on the rails (at least it has a decent whistle LOL !).
The last time I saw Flying Scotsman it had a couple of Transport Police on duty on the platform and they did book a couple of people for ignoring signs not to cross a white line, with another person walking past the police and was stood on the track, he was quickly moved as a fast moving 2,000 ton trains was due, I think some people just have a death wish.
Haha.
That was more like the "Crawling" Scotsman.
The video could have had 80% edited out of it.
I, personally prefer BR blue and yellow diesels, but darn it, these can be good
Where do these marvels of mechanical engineering take on their water? Water troughs were a feature on the railways during the steam era. Today's main feature is overhead gantries for power. Won't be too long until this engine reaches it's 100th birthday !
These days, the tenders are refilled from tanker trucks, on the mainline. Heritage railways tend to have water cranes, still.
Interesting that some people are complaining about children's voices. I have some experience of sad grumpy old men "puffer nutters" as they are referred to by those inside the railway game! Old men who seem to think THEY have an absolute right to take the best positions to take pictures regardless of how long younger people have been waiting in to take THEIR pictures. It comes as no suprise to find they also inhabit the comments sections of You Tube videos as well. Far cough I say.
What you're referring to are real rail enthusiasts, and it's a shame you have to be disrespectful to them.
The rest, especially with all the noisy kids are only pretend rail enthusiasts who are not that interested in trains. The 'Scotsman' has been hyped up that much they'll think it's the only steam loco. Why don't you show some disrespect to them ??
@@AndreA-ke2id So what you are saying is anyone who behaves like a braying bully is an enthusiast, yet anyone who will be around to carry steam on after they have been nailed in their boxes is simply to be dismissed as an irritation? You are condemned by your own words.
@@I_am_NEVER_wrong You've misunderstood my comment completely.
@@AndreA-ke2id Care to explain how I misunderstood "the rest with the noisey kids are only pretend rail enthusiasts" ! Thankfully the youngsters will be around enjoying Steam Locomotives much longer than so many grumpy old people (I am 64 myself!) that seem to think THEY are the only people interested in Steam Locomotives! And have an absolute right to front row seats and silence simply because they are fans!!! You are talking complete HOGWASH
@@AndreA-ke2id So, you don't want children to learn to be rail enthusiasts? Your comment is sad.
Wouldn't make the effort to go see it myself. Only ever taken two photos of the thing when it was in the NRM workshop.. Mind you I am a dyed in the wool LMS man
The first photo I took of FS was a close up of Alan Pegler (the guy who saved the loco in the first place) in the cab. The sheer joy on his face was wonderful.
I'm an American lady so please forgive my ignorance. Where is original engine with the #1472? Is it in a museum? Or did # change? My dad worked for RRs & I grew up riding steam trains around the U.S. I've seen many Flying Scotsman videos & if I had $$ I'd fly to UK just to ride the Scotsman. I miss steam trains! There's nothing like the smell of the cars + sound of engine idling in the station!
The locomotive was renumbered multiple times during her career. Originally built for the Great Northern Railway as number 1472 but, by the time she was delivered, the GNR had been merged into the London and North Eastern Railway and she became 4472 and later 103, before being renumbered 60103 by the nationalized British Railways.
The world is full of sour, unhappy people. The kids were no problem. It was obviously a family outing and the kids were having fun with their dad. Some people need to get a life.
It's one of the reasons real train enthusiasts don't come out for the 'Flying Scotsman'
There's so much hype around it, it draws these idiots out.
They do indeed...
@@AndreA-ke2id they are not idiots. ' holier than thou' comes to mind. Get back in your box mate...
@@AndreA-ke2id Do you need a degree in rivet counting to be a real enthusiast?
@@roderickjoyce6716You're obviously NOT a train enthusiast. If you were you wouldn't make a stupid comment like that.
There is also a locomotive called "The Flying Dustman".
Didn't know
I live somewhere crap too. We get all excited about the air ambulance helicopter coming.
You don'tt ell anything? Obviously this is some fan trip. Myaby we would like to know who put this on and book for a future fan trip!
6 or 60 - we all like trains
The ambling Scottsman
Awesom
Two questions. First, is that the Flying Scotsman? Second, how come british (steam) locomotives have only one headlight?
The position and number of the headlight(s) form a headcode that describes the type of service - express passenger, local passenger, goods train fully braked / partially braked (ie: some goods wagons do not have brakes), royal train, etc
Yes, it's the Flying Scotsman. It has had no less than six different numbers during its working life.
1. Originally No 1472 of the Great Northern Railway,, built in 1922.
2. Like all ex-GNR locos it had 3,000 added to its number in 1923 to avoid duplication with locos of the former North Eastern Railway when those two companies and four others merged to form the London & North Eastern Railway.
3. In 1941 the LNER renumbered its locos into more consistent groups, the A3 Pacifics being given numbers from 500 upwards, No 4472 becoming 502.
4. The renumbering scheme was modified in 1946, with this loco becoming No 103.
5. On nationalisation in 1948 all ex-LNER locos had 60,000 added to their numbers, again to avoid duplication with locos from the other railways, 103 becoming 60103 as seen in this video.
It does sometimes appear in earlier numbers and liveries, but because of modifications to it during its working life the British Railways colours and number are the most authentic .
The sixth number? All steam locomotives are known to Network Rail's computerised systems as Class 98, and officially, whatever it says on the side, the loco is No 98872
British railway lines are fully protected by fences, so there's no need to have a headlight to see ahead on the track. Headlamps, in those days, were just used to designate the type of train that was being run, along the lines of class lights in the US.
Who ever was in charge of signaling and crossing barriers should be looking for a new job now.
Perhaps you should educate yourself before casting aspersions on the operator.
Someone stated there were trespassers, and the crossing had to be re opened so the BTP could remove the trespassers.
Great catch! I caught her at Kings Cross at the weekend and chased her around a few days earlier. Idea is on my channel if you are interested. I’ve subscribed to you 🙂
These steam trains have a real personality
It really flies though
Fantastic commentary by the little one love it
"Flying Scotsmuuuuuuuuun" 🤓
A magnificent sight, but I always think it's a pity when they're forced to use a mixture of coaches.
I would've thought the whilst would be deeper
No, that's the whistle Gresley used till he got to the streaks.
With this camera angle the Flying Scotsman looks like a little Scottish lass 😉😁
There was absolutely no danger when those gates were open, total common sense showed by the signalman who can overide gates in most casses
Would that be the 4472 Flying Scotsman or the imposter .
The locomotive has carried multiple different numbers during its working life, one of which was 60103.
It feels weird to see flying Scotsman with 60103 instead of 4472
As an Australian who, in 1988/9, was able to see 4472 (sans smoke deflectors) many times on her extended visit I completely agree with you.
She's historic: let's keep her in her LNER conformation.
I fail to see any problem here??.. the train was more than 2 minutes away so quite rightly the crossing was opened.
There's absolutely no need for crossings to be closed for so long before the train comes
Your not in the UK are you? 😁
@@chaosdemonwolf1 I am yes!
@@Jimbo-gi7xn Right. My bad. Cheers from Kent.
@@chaosdemonwolf1 I'm from Kent too my friend...near Folkestone
@@Jimbo-gi7xn Close. I'm near Sandgate. 🍺 🥃
Where are the Sleaford Mods? And bring back proper level crossing gates!
the flying scotsman going superfast blah blah blah
How about giving her back the original no4472 and repainting her in her original liverie Apple Green.
Her original number was 1472.
Like wtf why would the signalman would open the gates for the people to cross when The Flying Scotsman hadn’t passed
That's the signalman's job.
It's normal procedure to open the gates when no train is cleared to pass, and to close them prior to clearing the signals to allow a train to pass.
The gates and signals are in fact interlocked, and cannot be opened when the approach signals are cleared.
Hahaha. Looks more like the Bumbling Scotsman.
Small fault would of course a big fault
A good video Inc the chatterbox giving his comments.
I just hear the kids
This film could have done with abit of editing - too much not happening for first two minutes. Then the film clip finishes before all of the train has passed through!
Rule no. 1 - never end a film before all of a train (that you're filming) has passed through a station. It looks amateurish otherwise.
I get Flying Scotsman is *very* popular, but there are many other Steam railtours as well. Like Merchant Navy 35028 Clan Line, or 61306 Mayflower.
And tornado Sherwood forester and royal Scot along with royal Scots guardsman and Bahamas
How the hell did this happen? It could have been the end of the pretending to be Flying Scotsman Loco. The man in the dayglow jacket was doing nothing to stop people or vehicles from going across. Luckily, nobody was hurt. Martin. (Thailand)
I don't know about the situation in Thailand, but on railways in Britain, when the gates are open, it is safe to cross.
I'm not sure why you think someone in a dayglow jacket should be trying to stop people using the crossing when the gates are open. Isn't that what the crossing is for?
@@bingola45 I agree, but he must have known that the train was coming, that is why he was there. I may be in Thailand, but I am English born and bred. Thank you for your reply. As for the railways in Thailand, there is very little coverage of the country. But, China is building an Express Service from Bangkok to somewhere up North.
That was no 'pretending to be' Flying Scotsman. It WAS the Flying Scotsman.
@@martinpattison1567 There is no 'train coming' when the gates are open. Before a train can be 'coming', it must be accepted by the signalman, and signalled through.
This cannot happen until the gates are closed. They are interlocked to prevent it.
@@bingola45 Right. The only question is why the gates were closed when there was no train coming.
The kids' excitement is great. Shame about the weeds. It's hard to get excited about the railways when the new owners can't be bothered to look after them any longer. Damn Maggie Thatcher.
What an utterly stupid and ignorant comment. Should have stopped after your first sentence.
What 'new owners' and why 'Damn Maggie Thatcher'? Or are you just some random leftie feeling the need?
@@1chish don't worry, thatchers damned herself twice - once over the miners and their families and again over the falklands debacle and the lives that wasted on both sides.
@@royfearn4345 Oh not another leftie ....
No she isn't damned in the minds of the vast majority of teh electorate as she won three elections increasing her majority at each one. Your Leftie views are in the deep minority Roy. Sorry.
No the miners brought it all on themselves led by that utter moron Scargill (who was funded by the Russian embassy) who missed the right time to call a strike the year earlier when stocks were low. Maggie built up coal stocks which paid the miners a lot of extra wages and they thought they had won. But Scargill was out thought and out manoeuvred by Thatcher. When he finally went for the strike we didn't need the mines that year.
The coal industry was a declining industry and not every miner supported Scargill. I know because my late grandfather was a Nottingham miner and they all hated the idiot.
Now on the other matter you just pissed on the graves of 255 graves of the bravest most evil humoured people and I had the privilege to know a few. So screw you Roy!
No lives were wasted (and never would be) recovering British soil and freeing British people from an invading army. People who were treated terribly and had their homes left with shit on the floors by a bunch of Argie animals. That you think they were not worth fighting for says more about your shallow values than anything I can say. I can tell you very simply that if asked again to go back we would all have done so with no regrets. Maggie did not cause that war the Argies did. No one else. Only Leftie Loons like you try and make out otherwise.
Be careful who you disrespect Roy.
Contemplate some facts before blaming Maggie for the break-up of the railways, chum. It was Major, years after Thatcher had left the leadership. She wasn't to blame for everything you hate, despite your prejudice (and was to be celebrated for many things more that she helped us to achieve!)
@@1chish Well said @1chish, the sad little Roy's of this world would be the first to complain had the Falklands interrupted their sad little lives far better that brave men die to allow them to make stupid comments on tinternet!!!
That’s a big mistake they should have pulled the barriers down and close it not leave it up otherwise that loco would have hit the person or a vehicle on the track
Considering the signals would have shown red for the railway noone would have got run over or hit
Yeah it would have