Thunder Force III Vs. Thunder Spirits | Sega Genesis Vs. Super Nintendo | Nefarious Wes
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- In this episode of Versus, I compare the brilliant Technosoft Sega Genesis space-shooter, Thunder Force III, with its comparable Super Nintendo counterpart, Thunder Spirits. Which is the better game? Check out this video to find out!!
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Sever is on stage one on the Genesis. It's in the beginning of the stage behind the tree. Its the only tree that your ship travels behind. Great review love these games.
kirgeez Thanks. Yeah, time was not kind to my memory.
Only on Normal mode. It's not there on Hard and Mania.
@@Xalusc Yup
I’m so glad that I got introduced to TF3 on the Mega drive mini! I was too young and interested in Sonic and Disney games back when I had a og MD!
Better late than never.
Genesis always will win over SNES when come to SHMUP.
Yeah, pretty much.
Super Aleste actually doesn't suffer from much slowdown at all. The Parodius games on the other hand...
Westapo Exactly.
Thunder Force IV woohoo!
alxxpspqr Yeah, Axelay is badass!
Thunder Spirits will always hold a special place in my heart, since it was one of the few snes games I owned and I played it to death.
SNES is one of my favorite systems of all time, but it can't compete with the Geny when it comes to shmups. I solved that problem by owning both consoles.
Same here. SNES is great for adventure games and RPGs, but owning a Genesis for the shooters is mandatory.
+alxxpspqr Oh dude, you better not search for Thunder Force IV if you want to keep your mind with peace xD
That game blasted every single aspect in a shoot em up.
alxxpspqr Well, your opinion is respectful, but the world already knows what Thunder Force 4 is, the best Shoot em up of the 16-bit era.
You guys are really passionate about shooters--I love it!! If you guys haven't checked out my "Let There Be Shooters" episode, you ought to check it out here: czcams.com/video/RkKj0xTgMOE/video.html&ab_channel=Westapo I plan on having a new episode out by the end of the month! And as good as TF IV is, I still like TF III better.
alxxpspqr Well yeah, I'm not the one who thinks about it. CZcams have a lot of people talking about it, even blogs on the internet.
But have in count this, TFIV was not superior in just one aspect as other shoot em ups. It was very well balanced in the gameplay quality, graphics, music, sound effects, stage designs and difficulty.
While other games blast one aspect of the game, they lack the quality of other aspects. And so... What make it superior? Well, the fact that it almost doesn't have any bad aspect.
Of course my heart have an special place for TFIII, it have something I like more than TFIV. But this one, sometimes, is considered the best in the series.
Like that you went through the entire game and compared them both. Most comparison videos just show a few seconds of gameplay. Good job!
Thanks! Yeah, I pretty much cover the whole game on my "Vs." series.
I just ran across this video. Wow this is really good. Thank you!
I just want to say that this video was AMAZING! I can't believe the lengths you went to compare these two games. I did something similar with a video a couple years ago but I didn't go to the lengths you did. Bravo!
I also love how you used the Saturn remastered music when you introduced each stage, well played. You have a new sub here!
+SHMUP Master Thanks a lot! I know hardcore Thunder Force fans--and hardcore shooter fans as well, will appreciate this video. Yeah, it took a lot of work, but when I compare games I go pretty in-depth. Those arranged music tracks are my favorite! Awesome tunes! Thanks for subscribing. I plan on covering some more shooters now that I've had a friend design a logo for me. Stay tuned! And I'll check out your videos--if you're called SHMUP Master, you've gotta have some good stuff!
+Westapo: Video Games and Loud Music Thanks man! Yeah sadly I've only done 2 videos. But I'm about half way through my third one now which is on Thunder Force 4. My problem is that every SHMUP I play through I have to 1CC before I make the video lol
+SHMUP Master Part IV is a classic that I'll have to cover at another time. What's 1CC?
+Westapo: Video Games and Loud Music 1CC stands for One Credit Clear or No Death Run. Every game I cover I beat on the hardest difficulty without dying. So far I've done Whip Rush, Thunder Force 3 and 4 as well as Forgotten Worlds. I make a produced video first and then put my run after it if people want to stick around and watch. It's kind of crazy and why I'm not able to produce as many videos but I love mastering a game.
Thunder Force 4 on Maniac is absolute insanity. Took me over 2 months of practice before I captured my run. Both that video and Forgotten Worlds (which was cake in comparison) are incoming in the next few months.
+SHMUP Master Okay, i thought that's what it was. I'm not up to speed with internet acronyms. You did that with Whip Rush!? I still haven't beaten that game yet, but I was just thinking the other day that I need to pop that one in again and give it another shot.
I'm not sure I would have the patience to practice the same game for two months. And that's the thing with shooters--practice, practice, practice. I'd like to see those 1CC videos, so i'll go ahead and subscribe so I can check 'em out once they're published.
I’d take Thunder Spirits name over “Lightening Force” for Thunderforce IV
Yeah. What the hell were they thinking? That's why I didn't even know we had gotten TFIV in the U.S. until maybe 13 years ago.
This is one of your best episodes...and you have a TONNE of awesome episodes!! I’ve never played either of these shmups but I absolutely love Thunder Force IV. The whole series has amazing music and this is by far my favorite genre of games. So glad I found this gem.
Thanks, man! This was one of my earlier videos, so glad you dug it! You definitely need to check these two out!
Few notes:
- You can get the upgraded initial weapon on Stage 1, it's just hidden behind a obstacle at the bottom of the screen..
- If I recall correctly, you can destroy the moving obstacle of the before final boss.
Loved this video comparison/review!
+Alvaro Ordoñez Thanks, buddy!
You hit it right on the nose. TF3 for Sega Genesis still got it going on like some ice cold beer on a hot summer day!!!!!!!
Great video you got here, this was a great comparison and actually makes me want to check these out. Also, welcome to MultiTapped! :)
+The Dali Popka Thanks. And thanks for having me! These are a couple of great games, especially Thunder Force III. Well, obviously they're great--I made a 27-fuckin-minute video about them.
Great video dude! Love your Circle Jerks T-Shirt too!
MrThunderwing Thanks! Yeah, I'm about to embark on an "American Heavy Metal Weekend"!
Thank you for making this video. Thunder Force 3 will always be one of the GOATs in my gaming memories.
I have never played the Genesis version, and just a week or so ago, I got Thunder Spirits and played it for the first time. I love it. You have good videos.
Gr8fulDead69 Thanks! Yeah, I really like Thunder Spirits despite the slow down. Thunder Force III--and IV and V for that matter--are all worth checking out.
Here is a great example what means the processor of the genesis doubles the speed (in MHzs) of Super Nintendo’s. Excellent comparison, by the way, Thunder Force III is one of my favorite shooters ever because it was the game that made me fall in love with the genre.
By the way, just one point: Thunder Spirits’ 5th stage is the same as Thunder Force AC that... it already appeared on Thunder Force 2!! Yeah, it’s a repeated level that I would never understand why it was included instead the excellent ice surface of the planet (curiously both levels have the same name for both versions, Haides and Ellis - different parts of the same planets?). Well... as a fan I’m very pleased with this video. Thanks!!
The sever weapon IS on the first level of the genesis version. It's at the top of the screen hidden behind the plants.
metaldave08096 Thanks! I forgot.
Only on Normal difficulty though.
mega drive >>>>>>snes
really depends on your favorite genre. i put snes a bit ahead because of chrono trigger and ff6, 2 of the best rpgs ever made. sega has it beat in shoot em ups and beat em up but i like the rpgs and platformers better on snes. both systems have a lot of great games.
18:28 hey, that’s a song from Thunder Force 2! I didn’t know Thunder Spirits remixed older TF songs, that’s cool.
sever is on stage 1 in the genesis version. it's hidden early on
Pretty in depth. I've always wanted to get more into the thunderforce series. I have Lighting force, which i think is one of them?
Lightening Force is Thunder Force IV. They changed the name in North America for some reason. It's a fantastic game!
+DubiousGamingOnline Lightening Force has an amazing soundtrack.
I'd love to see someone go into the SNES Mini and do a little software tweak to make every single SNES game that ever ran with slowdown run without it (and without the sprite flicker too) just so we could see how good they would be/play in perfect running condition at a solid 60fps. I know someone has already done this with Gradius III (regardless of being on the Mini), which turned out to be pretty spectacular and turned it into an fps that easily matches the kind of stuff seen on Genesis regularly, and I think it would just be a very cool thing to do with all SNES games. Actually, I kinda wish the official developers would also re-release some of these classic SNES games in physical SNES cartridge form with additional chips to allow them to play on real hardware in 2020 with these slowdown-less and flicker-less versions too. That would be sooo cool.
I've seen the patched gradius 3 and wow, it's phenomenal. The snes biggest problem was optimization, not CPU cycles.
Hey, Wes, love your work! I was wondering if you could cover an old Genesis game called Hellfire. I think it'll be right up your alley!
Thanks! Hellfire has been on my wish list for a while now. I hear great things about it.
Seven people bought the wrong version
UKMikey Ha ha, no shit.
AMAZING games. Great vid.
Thunder Force III is intentionally better on the Sega Genesis, because, Technosoft was a second party developer for Sega. Thunder Spirits was a port handled by Toshiba. Speaking of which, Sega now owns the rights to Thunder Force!
I heard that Sega now owns the rights to Thunder Force. That better mean that we get a new one here sometime in the future!
Westapo Well, Thunder Force III was part of Sega's 3D Classic Collection, so, they're already doing something with the property!
Sega doesn't own just Thunder Force, they own all of Technosoft's IPs such Herzog, Hyper Reverthion, Elemental Master, a beat'em up game called Nekketsu Oyako and a dating sim visual novel called Kaze no Oka Kouen Nite.
I find it interesting how a couple of Thunder Spirits' levels actually differ from Thunder Force AC. The battleship level and the final level were identical between AC and 3 but changed up in Thunder Spirits.
Also, level 5 on Thunder Spirits, which matches level 5 from Thunder Force AC, is a retooled stage from Thunder Force 2 and features several enemies from that game, where AC's version of the soundtrack (which is much, much better IMO) sounds identical to TF2's version since the arcade board used Genesis hardware... which makes it sadder that a lot of the tracks shared by TF3 and AC were worse on AC.
+CrazyEnzo03 I've never played AC, so I wouldn't know. All of AC's footage was from other CZcams videos, but I did hear some of the music to come to the determination that I liked TF III's music on the Genesis better.
And I've heard that "Spirits" stage five is a retooled stage from TF II, but didn't recognize it cuz I hadn't really played TF II since 1989. I did pick it up last summer, and that's where the footage in this video came from, but honestly, I didn't play it enough to recognize the stage from "Spirits", or even make it very far in the game, frankly. It's really tough, and I hafta say that I really hate the overhead stages. Glad someone that knows the game so well was able to spot these things. This video is pretty much for the die-hards.
just wanted to let u know. the sever weapon actually IS found in gorgon stage. its hidden in the trees my friend. great video. loved this game for genesis.
Jay Rod Thanks. Yeah, I forgot all about it until someone else mentioned it. I hadn't played it in years before making this video and relied on my childhood memories. I played the hell out of TF III back in the day!
TF3 is a Porsche. TS is a Toyota, with mud in the engine.
Music wise if the game soundtrack needs testosterone then Genesis will do a better job. SNES is better at the fancy pants orchestra type. Lacks punch. Not good for shmups.
I agree.
@Dean Satan what are you talking about? The SNES was on par with many arcade soundboard at the time. Its like you read the opposite of the truth at the time. It had a unique setup, allowing some home ports to much HIGHER rated music than the arcade versions. Sega people are nuts, until Dreamcast, you couldn't compete at all.
The Thunder spirits soundtrack on level 4 is an Omake track on ThunderForce IV
elemetal master from same technosoft - has exellent soundtrack and gameplay too
RECHOOSENONE Yeah, and it's pretty tough.
Genesis does what Nintendon't: Play a classic the way the gaming gods intended.
Great and thorough comparison! I've only played TF3, but from what I see I agree it generally looks much better than Thunder Spirits, though I have to say the level 5 boss trick in TS (19:15) is clever and evil, and I wouldn't mind if TF3 had that. The "mode 7" beginning part of the ending does look nicer on TS too.
Thanks, man. I still say TS is worth a play, and recommend it if the price is right.
Excellent vid, other than the few music bits where you had shooting sound effects getting in the way, sound effects sometimes block some instrumentation of the music tracks. At least you didn't block the glory of Hunger Made Them Desperate, incredible song butchered on Snes hah. The best intro/ending graphic I've seen on the Genesis is Musha, Gleylancer and Elemental Master...but definitely Musha, looks exactly like a gorgeous 90s anime.
Thanks!
If my memory doesn't fail me, the stage 5 in Thunder Spirits is from Thunder Force II. Can't remember if it's 4-B, the Genesis version has better music for this stage too.
Correct.
The SNES's problem with the music is that it's a little too fast, and that synth horn is a very low-quality sample. I'd love to hear this soundtrack remastered with a bunch of rock organs and a screaming distortion guitar in place of that horn.
Say that snes music is better in this game is a bad taste joke and yes, its not a personal opinion.
As of today i never knew there was a thunder force series I gre mainly on nes snes and n64 till i got my playstation my friends had sega so it wasnt nothing to borrow a console back then but never had tf3, like i said never knowing there was TF i grew up on thunder spirits and i can say after watching the video, yes i see the drawbacks nintendo did but at the same point being an early 90's(starting to play and remember games) there wouldnt be to much of a difference to me considering both consoles have had their draw backs and whom copied whom. Props for breaking it down as i was looking it up for maybe a future in running for speedruns.
Thanks for checking the video out. It's best to just enjoy both Thunder Force III and Thunder Spirits, but I highly recommend the Thunder Force series. Thunder Force IV on the Genesis, which is actually called Lightening Force here in the States for some stupid reason, is phenomenal, and really pushes the Genesis to its limits. Thunder Force V though, just may be my favorite one. It's on the Saturn and PlayStation, but is pretty expensive nowadays. But if you like Thunder Spirits, I guarantee that you'll enjoy both TF IV and V.
Gorgon stage music and visual from SEGA is the best part of my childhood it even influenced my video editing style today, transition of music tempo to match with visual movement or pattern
Hell yeah, that's awesome! Visuals hafta match the music!
You can give link to download Thunder force1?
Hands down Thunder Force III for Genesis to me is far superior than it's SNES counterpart. I guess it's because I played the Genesis version first.
11:01 It took until after Christmas to finish that section of the game. Hahahaha
15:29 I remember when I first made it this point of the game, I thought I was done for at a dead end that is until the ship slowed down and started to back up. That blew my demented little mind. Awesome video Wes.
Thanks, man! I played the Genesis version first, so yeah, but it's just better period. That slowdown kills the SNES one. On the fire stage the music goes along with what's happening in the the stage. Thunder Spirits? Can't even keep up. Thanks for watching, man. I knew you would appreciate it.
I was very aware of the thunder force series on SEGA and playstation, but never had heard of this snes port...now I see why. you're not just biased, I think it is clear SEGA has the better version.
+Joshua Tiberius Yeah, I thought so, but sometimes it's hard to recognize if you're being biased or straight up objective when you've played the one version for most of your life. Thanks for watching!
16:25 the boss is ED209 from RoboCop
"You have three seconds to comply!"
Dude. For the record. The saber shot is available in the first stage. It's hidden in the upper part of the screen, right after you got the Fire shot and before the first round of plants.
Nostalgia can have a heavy weight regarding choosing soundtracks.
Without a doubt.
Where have you been Wes? We miss you man!!!
I'm actually working on something. Hopefully releasing a new video next week. If not then, the week after.
The Genesis version uses 2 buttons to switch weapons allowing you to chose which one you want faster "weapon to the left, or weapon to the right". The snes version only gives you one button for weapon select which means you have to quickly click through all of them to find what you want. Just a small thing I noticed, but every second counts.
I love how genesis ending uses scaling. Sure snes does too with mode 7 but that's something rarely seen on Genesis.
Yeah, cycling through weapons one way is not good.
Where do I find that guitar cover of the fire stage music in the opening background?
Richard Savings I believe it's the Saturn version's OST. But I made this video two years ago and don't remember which versions I used.
Nefarious Wes It's okay. I found it. Some guy put StarFox in it's title for some reason, but I found it nonetheless.
Richard Savings That's right, I remember now.
Stage 5 is a remake from Stage 6 & 8 of Thunder Force II for both Thunder Spirits and Thunder Force AC.czcams.com/video/JMaL-U_Jl5U/video.html
Stage 5 of Thunder Spirits is from Thunder Force II.
I forgot to mention....cool shirt!
I've only ever played Thunder Force IV. How does III compare to IV?
The sound hardware on the Genesis is better suited for Techno and Metal soundtracks than the SNES.
Absolutely.
Love Thunderforce games, but honestly, my favorite is Gate of Thunder. (PCECD)
I never knew about blast processing. Must be because I never owned a Sega Genesis. I really dig the soundtrack to these titles and personally I like the sound on the SNES.
+Sara Polley Thunder Force III has one of my all-time favorite soundtracks! Sega used "Blast Processing" as it's ad gimmick back in the '90s, basically cuz it was the only advantage that the Genesis had over the Super Nintendo. So now people make jokes about it all of the time.
+Westapo: Video Games and Loud Music I take issue with "only" advantage :P. The Genesis music capabilities were fantastic when used properly. It tended to sound more organic than the compressed samples the SNES used. You even mentioned it in the vid where you talk about the horn sample they were using in one of the songs. In fact, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that in my Thunder Force 3 video as well heh.
But yeah, I was lucky enough to grow up with both a SNES and Genesis and love them both. So I got to see the strengths and weaknesses of both first hand. There is still no SNES game with a soundtrack like Streets of Rage 2. Just like there is no Gens game with a soundtrack like Final Fantasy 6. Each console had a style they were good at and when developers knew how to use it, they shined.
Sorry for the rant, but I disagree with your 10% 90% theory :)
+SHMUP Master Oh, no doubt the Genesis has fantastic music when used properly. In fact, I'm currently working on my Top 10 Sega Genesis BGM songs. And yeah, no SNES game has anything that sounds like Streets of Rage--frankly I don't think it could've been pulled off. But when the same game is on both systems, I will say the SNES version sounds better the majority of the time. Maximum Carnage, Mortal Kombat II, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Battletoads Double Dragon, Super Smash TV--all sound better on the SNES. That's just my opinion.
I also grew up with both systems, but had the Genesis for about two years before getting an SNES. Then The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past turned me from a Genesis fanboy into an SNES one. But like you, I didn't have to choose between the two.
+Westapo: Video Games and Loud Music Same exact thing here. Had a Genesis in 1990 and got a SNES at the end of 91. Final Fantasy 4 is what made me fall in love with the SNES honestly. There were no RPGs that good, or with music that amazing on the Genesis.
But yeah, if you are talking about straight ports you are probably right. Although there were exceptions like Earthworm Jim that were superior on the Gens, albeit, few. I think it just came down to the fact that it took more work on the Genesis to make it look and sound as good as the SNES due to older hardware, but it could be done in most cases. Hell, Pier Solar even replicated Mode 7 scaling on the Genesis, although it was apparently quite a technical feat to pull it off.
I hear ya. I've been making fun of Nintendo for over 20 years for the "bubbly-wubbly" stuff, but I've remained loyal to both. I figure that way it's a win-win situation.
If I remember correctly, at the bottom of the tree you fly behind in TFIII Level 1, there's a hidden Sever!
jbmaru I think you may be right.
That's right, it's hidden at the very beginning of the stage. It was at the superior part though.
You're being way kinder to the SNES music than I would be. The SNES music is an abomination compared to the Genesis. The Genesis one is dirty and crunchy as hell (in a good way), the stereo effect is way more effective and there's a ton more atmosphere. The SNES sounds like entry level MIDI. Just flat and dull.
I actually don't think it's too bad. Yeah, the Genesis is better, but I can see the allure to the SNES version.
As an owner of both...I prefer the Genesis version. The music on the Genny has that classic, amazing TechnoSoft sound. The SNES sounds good, but it's generic SNES sound fonts.
Having played a few SNES Shmups, they all suffer from HORRIBLE LAAAAAAAAG. Even the amazing R-Type and Raiden games have terrible slowdown.
Now, back to Thunder Force.
Stage 7, ORN Base
Hunger Made Them Desperate sounds so much more amazing on the Genesis.
Technosoft was a beast at utilizing the Genesis sound chip.
My fav horizontal shooter of the time. Thanks for the comprehensive comparison. For me, genesis version wins and has more character.
I agree, though I was surprised at how much I did enjoy the SNES version.
Super Nintendo can not do Smups! Genesis is a way better console, hands down!
Think that Genesis/Megadrive is the better console overall, but SNES still has some great SHMUPs. Smash TV, Biometal, UN Squadron, Parodious etc. The Megadrive definitely has more though.
Not only are the games different in their own respects, but currently the price is way different. Genesis be like 3 to 4xs more expensive than snes. Damn.
Lol then Thunderforce IV came out and the SNES said "yeah I'm done".
😂
Westapo, not something you missed necessarily, but Stage 5 of Thunder Spirits isn't a new stage to the series. It is a remake of Stage 8 from Thunder Force II MD.
Yeah, I didn't realize that until I played Thunder Force II AFTER I made this video. Before I made this video I hadn't really played TF II in 20+ years other than to get the few seconds of footage that I used for this video. I was kinda bummed once I had discovered that, but too late now.
Great video nonetheless! I also really liked your Mad City/Bayou Billy and Kunio-Kun/Renegade vids. If you're still taking suggestions for future Vs videos how about Kamen no Ninja Hanamaru Vs. Yo! Noid, or even more extreme, Power Blazer Vs. Power Blade.
Thanks for watching! I'm always taking suggestions, but I don't own Power Blade and it is getting up there in price. I don't own Yo Noid! either, but that one is probably more feasible. Avoid the Noid? What the hell were they thinking?
stage select music on sega ❤
“A Shoot em ups mans wet dream” lol
Trying saying that 3x fast
Genesis on 2D Shoot'em Ups has no rival. As simple as that!
The tg16 sure can compete in this genre
tgx16 for the win. Its not even close ifbyou ever played one. There's simply no comparison.
SNES had a 7Mhz processor. The Genesis had a 11Mhz one so... slowdown was evident in many game like Contra 3, Axelay, Legend of the Mystical Ninja and many more...
are you playing this on a pc emulator as the graphics looks like there filtered..
thunder spirits stage 4 theme is a remake of thunder force 2 stage 4 theme Deaths Face.
I've always loved SNES. They both have their pluses and minuses. And there definitely are things Nintendon't. Not surprised at the comparison at all. They're both pretty cool.
I played both and in general when released (rented) , if not for the slowdowns i would preffer the snes version (all it needs is a fastrom hack)
Spirits IN MY OPINION! has a lil better graphics and details, as well as most of the tracks i preffer the snes version over the genesis one (not by far but like you said its all a mather of personal taste specially on the bass)
well out with the old snes and in with the New Genesis cause that system has what it takes to run flawlessly
Un the temple level was actually from thunder force 2 not thunder force 3
LOL! Barry Horowitz @24:19
I forgot that I put that in there. One person appreciated it=mission accomplished!
while i haven't played the snes version...this is a compelling argument why TF3 is better on the genesis. I have played TF AC on MAME emulation...and i find the changes...odd to be honest. Not saying that the arcade version is bad per se..but the changes feel like downgrades at times. TF3 is a spectacular shooter on the genny and while it gets overshadowed immensely by the systems top shooters, such as MUSHA, TF4, and most of the toaplan offerings...its WELL WORTH PLAYING and is an awesome game in its own right. A gem of a game right out the bat for the fledging genny at the time!
I agree. TFIII is simply amazing! One of my favorite soundtracks EVER!
I actually find the soundtrack of the of the SNES game to be the tinny of the two.
Talks about the Styx. Shows a picture of Rynex. K.
Where? I made this video a long time ago so I don't remember.
Oh, I saw it. Oops. Honest mistake.
Nefarious Wes lol.
Better in genesis, no doubts.
Thunder Force 3 on Genesis is of no challenge unless you play on Mania mode.
eu tinha esse jogo no genesis
Yeah, I prefer the SNES overall, and many of the SNES games I consider the best videogames of all time, but the Genesis version of Thunder Force III blows away the SNES version of Thunder Spirits. Slowdown really was the SNES' biggest weakness, and I'm surprised that with games like this the developers didn't see fit to add a custom chip into the cart just to give it a bit of a speed boost and really do these types of titles justice.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
Zerei uma vez só no modo maniac o thunder spirits coisa de louco!!! Nunca mais consegui kkk
6:38
WRONG!!!
Dude! The "double shot" update can be found in the Hydra stage, behind the first tree that can pass "behind it".
Try that! You´re welcome! xD
I forgot it,on the top of the tree
!!!
Oh,I love the SEGA version. I don´t care anything! xD
Cerberus!
Did someone say Cerberus
The graphics on the SNES BLOW AWAY the Genesis version. But I think I dig the Genesis music better.
Circle Jerks. Hardcore for life.
Mega Wins
Sega wins.
Who punched the door?
Genesis graphic se, music! Genesis version wins!!! 👍😃
👍👍👍👍👍 sega
Sega Genesis Does ...
Best presentation
Best music
Better sound effect
Best image
Better visual effect
More parallax 5 x 4 of the SNES Vertical screen movements in 3 phases in Genesis, in SNES only in phase 7 but with visible frame rate.
Larger and faster objects
No slow motion on level enemies.
Fluidity of stars in phase 6 impresses in Genesis, it is possible to see fast or slow depending on the angle of the human eyes.
From the 4th stage on, SNES looks like an 8-bit video game
Sega is a battle at the speed of light with an exciting ending.
Nintendo doesn't ...
Where were you when I was putting this together?! I could've used some of this info!
Would you say that was some...
Hard core Orn?
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+Lunar Caustic On the Genesis version, yes. You know how Nintendo was back then.
Jesus Fucking Christ
uk Snes slow down was just horrible maybe because we ran games at50hz and US 60hz
Video refresh rate has nothing to do with slowdown when there is too much happening on screen.
Snes has srow cpu.
Snes needs more cpu put in the cartridge.
I think this is one of the best soundtracks on the snes. I still find it basically unlistenable. The score still can't save the snes sound chip.
I prefer Snes !!!!
Thunder Force III all the way