Transformers Studio Series 86 Movie Ultra Magnus - Proportions, Scale, Mass, Accuracy and more! NEW!
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2023
- As seen from Evan Booker’s Instagram we get to take a new look at Ultra Magnus and it’s features and form! #transformers #ultramagnus #optimusprime #studioseries #studioseries86
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With the Missing Link Series coming out, it would be awesome to see Hasbro take that Prime mold and give us an articulated UM from it.
We are def paying for parts count and assembly cost on this one. Not sure if it is justified, still. I personally am a fan of it being a singular transformation and unique mold instead of just Prime in an Ultra Magnus outfit.
Absolutely. It’s just a fact that there are two kinds of Ultra Magnus fans- 2mode fans and 4mode fans
can’t wait to get him, ratchet and frenzy
so glad he doesn't have the core bot, I like Magnus to be his own guy, not just white Optimus Prime with some armor
Still getting it. Not disappointed with the scale. It's not too far off. It's to be expected that it's overpriced but then again, all Hasbro products are. At least this one shouldn't need a ton of gap fillers and upgrade kits like most of their other figures.
$90 is overpriced?
Need the Cybertron version of kingdom Magnus and asked my dad for it for Christmas
if you watched the SDCC panel for this guy, you'd know that the chest cavity holding the matrix is, in fact, spring loaded
Actually I was referring to the literal pieces that held the Matrix in the chest which are shown in the back with the Matrix shooting out, so I was looking at something entirely different. Those who have it on hand have shown the doors swinging open. Pretty neat
Looks good, I think the price is fine because with a leader budget you get the CW version, so is there between leader and MP
The proportions are out of scale and I have 2 theories: 1 is to make it work the trailer to be compatible with deluxe sized cars so it ended being that size in robot mode. 2 is that SS86 is managing a different scale to justify new releases of characters we already have in the WFC and Legacy lines, like Optimus Prime, Megatron, Galvatron, Cyclonus, Springer, etc, that will scale better between the deluxe cars and the Dinobots
they did show off him holding cars in vechile mode
I don’t really mind the size but damn, scaling is a bit off but I’ll probably just display him with my other 86 figs and put the Dinobots somewhere else
Tomorrow Sunday November 12 2023.
I will receive Ultra Magnus. Exited to get it.
The price is base off the fact that its a new mold and there arent that many repaints they can do with that mold to recoup the money like with the others or its what i think at least. Even with the few they can do and with it having that price it unlikely many will buy the repaints.
All Commander classes are new molds. All initial leader classes are new molds. This mold has several repaint options such as Shining Magnus, Black Magnus and Delta Magnus. The argument applies to every other Commander Class as well. Except here we lost two modes and got hollowness in exchange. It’s a great figure. But you can’t tell me it’s at the level of the last three trucks, all of which were independent cab Robos which then combined in one way or another with their non-hollow boxes
@@XsToyUniverse Looks like $80 get you ankle pivot that you didnt get in the the others and a trailer that can pivot when the cab turns.
I love the way this looks. I would love to pick it up. When I first heard about I got really exited because I saw commander class and expected a core robot so I completely understand the gripe about that. My biggest problem with the siege and earthrise molds were that they were to unproportional compared to the cartoon. I also really wanted that cartoon transformation with a working carrier. While combiner wars fixes that problem, is still isn’t to g1 accurate because it was going for IDW design. I am really exited for this figure and I hope to pick it up. I just with it could be a little cheaper. And like you said, the price didn’t come out of engineering because we already saw the same engineering in combiner wars and g1.
I thought Hasbro would stick giving us correct sacle on new releases, when I first saw him side by side with SS Grimlock I was WTF!!! so I'm planning display him in the miscellaneous shelf, Kingdom UM will still be my 86 SS because he scale better with the rest
Same here. 👍🏼
I couldn’t care less about scale, gimme big boy Magnus
Personally, I like that he’s comparable in height to the CW leader
If he scales in size to Titans Return Sixshot then I'll be happy enough on that matter given they're both big bots. Don't think the falling apart gimmick is entirely why they bumped him toe commander class but more a happy little accident.
I haven’t checked in a while but Sixshot and CW UM scale ok together yes? If so you’re all set!
I wish that they retooled Earthrise Prime for this figure. I like having a smaller robot inside Magnus.
release date for Magnus i think it a decent figure to get
This would look good on a single self in truck mode with other autobots in their alt modes
Hasbro: releases an Ultra Magnus that’s both cartoon accurate and costs less than the Takara masterpiece figure
Me: Shut up and take my money!
I passed on the Siege and Earthrise version because of the robot inside gimmick. This one's perfect and looks great. I have no complaints. When you're doing a one for one with source material no mainline figure is 100% and you'd have to go Masterpiece engineering to come close and this guy is as Masterpiece as you can get in the mainline price point. I'm paying for parts count and makes sense. Rodimus was exactly the same thing. At least I'm displaying the whole package unlike Rodimus's trailer that's in the parts box and only wanted the core robot. so I get more bot for my money with this and I'm happier paying that price.
Except engineering wise, if can be done. I keep hearing people say it can’t and that sacrifices have to be made. Mech Fans Toys Ultra Magnus 2.0 was able to accomplish as fairly succinct transformation without sacrificing proportions and keeping it to a fairly good set of proportions.
@@XsToyUniverse that's a ko of Magic Square which are Masterpiece engineering at a smaller scale. Third Party and Masterpiece aren't comparable to a mainline chug
@@EddieNova yes, I have it though. The engineering is very much on par with something circa Siege onwards. It definitely is. I’d say that maybe for the Newage one except only for the white Prime. Then again Earthrise already perfected tht. The armor is comparable in engineering to Siege and KD UM
Your thumbnail. I see what you did there. 👍
Grimlock should be bigger but I still like it
Scale and limb removal are unnecessary/unfortunate but I still intend to get this and display as vehicle while kingdom will be displayed in robot with the rest of the team.
Scale is necessary, for what Magnus is and the play factor surrounding him. A car carrier that goes with the bigger bots that can't carry Autobots bigger than the out of scale Core Class? No.
It might work for Titans, which aren't in scale at all, but not core characters. Magnus was always an outlier for scale.
The limb removal is also play factor being he is a Studio Series. He was blow to shit after all in the movie.
I agree, what a lot of tf fans forget about studio series and other mainlines is that they are made for kids and the play factor is a lot more important to Hasbro so that they are marketable
U never seen a core white bot in the movie or cartoon…..I have this figure and it’s definitely worth the commander price
Stop saying he is hollow my guy the cab is filled with robot mode stuff he aint hollow
Lol what. Look closer. It literally folds in on itself
@XsToyUniverse you look closer. You can literally see pieces inside of it.
@@XsToyUniverselol
@XsToyUniverse not to mention the shoulders look better whenever they are farther away from the torso. It makes him not look like someone in a terrible cardboard armor cosplay.
Also blast effects aren't "free with purchase" lol. Just look at tricranius. That thing went up for $10 extra just because he included "more than normal" blast effects. 😂😂😂
I have the Masterpiece Ultra Magnus. This is that, shrunken down to Generations scale. The engineering absolutely comes into play for the pricing because the parts count to make it do what it does is going to be well above Leader Class.
As far as scale, that is my biggest annoyance. He's too big. The reason for this probably has more to do with engineering than anything else, because as I said I have the Masterpiece. It's almost 1:1 a shrink down with somewhat better articulation (which makes sense given MP-22 came out 11 years ago). If you made him any smaller, the truck would probably be too small. MP-22 is probably a bit larger than he should be too but it works. I would be SHOCKED if the designer of MP-22 wasn't the designer here.
The team we have now are getting further and further away from keeping the correct scale on figures. It began with Blaster. He's too big. Then Mark Maher said at least twice he wants to do a new Soundwave and "bring him up to Blaster scale", which would make them BOTH incorrect. I'm very much into the correct scale. I might not even be collecting Transformers at this point if they hadn't committed to it so well with Masterpiece in 2010 and then Generations in 2019.
Third party figures, particularly Legends have managed to keep Ultra Magnus’ proportions to less than this stack with less complex engineering, with or without a core robot. It’s entirely doable. I 100% agree with you on the scale starting to veer away though. While I’m not particularly worried about Ultra Magnus, I can definitely see it being an issue moving forward.
Scale is not veering away, first and foremost Transformers is about play factor. It's not the engineering, it's that Magnus is what? A car carrier... Would it make sense that he can't carry Deluxe cars? No. Magnus, like with the MP was always going to be an outlier as far as scale for that very reason.
Play factor. Don't be fooled that these are 100% aimed at only adults despite being G1 for us old farts. Scale is fine save for Magnus, and you know what, I couldn't care less, I like him being bigger, he is a semi and trailer after all.
@@Dontcareaboutoffending It's beginning to veer, but overall it's still fine. I actually agree about magnus, as the Masterpiece is a bit bigger perhaps than it should be.
I don't like the ultra magnuses where you have to take apart the trailer and then attach it to the cab robot because it feels too parts-formy
Interesting. I dont even see this for sale. How did I miss this?
It was just announced at SDCC. It’ll be a while
@@XsToyUniverse Okay. Thanks!!!
I have a few thoughts.
1. couldnt care less if they never did a white optimus prime with armor ever again. I think thats shit.
2. of course there is plenty there for a commander class price point. we collect transformers, if price was a consideration we would collect rocks instead.
3. Those shoulders are way too wide.
4. It gives me the impression that they just took MP UM and reduced the scale and found a way to put it in this price point. The aesthetic of the figure doesnt feel like the rest of the SS86 at all to me.
I'm still buying it, just have reservations about where the hell its going to fit in my collection of WFC, Legacy and the other SS86 figures.
The trailer becomes his armour, tho…
And?
You were saying that the trailer does nothing. It becomes his armour.@@XsToyUniverse
@@Motor__ that’s not what we are talking about here lol I promise you.
And they goofed again. Yes, Magnus should be huge, but no, he's *NOT THAT HUGE*!! The pic with the SS86 mold Grimlock and Kingdom Rodimus Prime...ugh, Optimus & Rodimus are supposed to be pretty big boys and come up to his shoulder...something that's impossible here. And the torso is seemingly wider than even MP22's (which was already wrong to begin with).
The detachable limbs...didn't they learn from SS86-2 Kup that this ain't a good idea for durability over time?? Wow. I dunno...this may be a cool figure, but there's gotta be something to justify the price point.
He's fine...
Unlike Kup’s limbs which use 5mm ports, these use combiner wars type spring mechanisms. Still doesn’t justify the price but it is different, and for durability over time, my combiner wars figures are still in great shape when it comes to the combining mechanisms so I have high hopes.
Looks good, except for the red front number thing. It’s different for him not to have a core bot, but the G1 cartoon never showed it.
The scale kills me. He's the size of a proper chug Jetfire (that we dont have). That picture near Grimlock and Rodimus doesnt make any sense for me. More than being bigger than Grimlock, is how bigger he is than Rodimus (imagine how he will not scale with for example Cyclonus, one of his "nemesis")
?
His nemesis is Sixshot.
Seige jetfire is the correct height for jetfire?
You won't get a proper Jetfire because of copyright bullshit. We do have the correct Skyfire for once though.
And scale makes sense when you factor in what he is in alt mode and the fact mass shifting is not a real world thing, at least at the moment...
He is a car carrier and a toy truck intended to carry the Deluxe cars, which his alt mode is predominantly scaled to.
First off, ALL TF are overpriced…
While it’s just reality, I don’t think this really needs to be part of the conversation with this new U.M.
He clearly has much more to offer than the previous leader versions.
I don’t have either because I never liked the look of those, but based on appearance alone, those were big letdowns and very underwhelming. The Kingdom version’s alt mode was serious trash.
I’ll also mention that Rodimus Prime’s trailer was a shell. Yeah the cannon was in there, but man, that was a large amount of plastic for very little return.
I sold mine off and am so glad I did; that trailer would still be in the ties in the box (stored in another box).
This new Magnus is slightly too big. The shoulders are a bit too wide, which is a common issue for many TF figures.
No figure is ever going to look
“one to one” (which is a weird way of saying 100% screen accurate).
It’s literally impossible for a converting figure to pull this off.
So knowing this, l
I’d say people should just appreciate how close these newer/more recent figures are to their animation models.
Otherwise, you’re whining about something that is outside of the realm of reality.
Lastly, this new Ultra Magnus looks incredibly good…. I cannot wait yo have him in my collection.
And by the way, I already have a plan for a diorama in which he will be “blown-up” into pieces.
Looking forward to that as well.
43 steps?!?😅
The neck is too short I mean you should be able to Se his mouth from the front.
If you’re referring to the newer images I believe that’s just an angle issue.
cab robot bad
A car carrier is not bigger than a T-Rex
In T. rex mode the car carrier is not bigger. I don’t know why people are complaining bout scale so much, it is only a little bit off.
Another channel that talks about scale. If you're dumb enough to go with cartoon scale then remember that Ultra Magnus can pick up individual Constructicons in each hand.
It’s like you didn’t watch the video LMAO. Did you miss the part where I said “if that’s something you care about”?
I have to say I am not really a fan of this figure for the following reasons.
1. A bit too tall
2. His shoulders are comically wide.
3. It looks like something very heavy has fallen from a great height onto his head and forced it down into his chest.
For me I kinda prefer the earthrise figure as I feel it is a better scale. And you get the white prime figure out of that as well.
I will concede the alt mode is far superior to the Earthrise. But I display my collection in bot mode so I don't think this is for me. A shame because if he was in better scale I would have picked him up.
I haven't seen any ss86 figures that are 100% accurate to the 1986 movie. Look at Hot Rod's car mode. It isn't even close to screen accurate.
Precisely