digital printing has its own segment of the market just as there is for silkscreen printing. It was not mentioned in this video the pros and cons for both, just comparison of the amount of work that needs to be done.. but is it practical to use dtf to print a single design to a thousand shirts? which is more practical, economical, and faster? its still screen printing.. the hard labor of preparing the screen is only done upfront before printing, but it is still faster and economical to use this traditional process when you are printing large numbers of shirts. of course, you don't use this printing process to print 10-50 pieces of shirts, that's not the market for screen printing. That is where digital printing can be more efficient in time, labor, and cost.. so the real difference is the market segment to which a t-shirt printer provide service. That determines what is more suitable printing system or equipment to use.
@@joemarz2264 There's only one way to find out. My buddy has a screen printing shop and would love to challenge this gentleman to a print-off for 300 tees with a two-color print. (Quick note: He also has a DTF printer.) DTF is a fantastic solution for small numbers but not giant numbers. Also, preparing the screens is not as bad/timely as he makes it out to be. I would undoubtedly be on your side if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
My problem with DTG & DTF is the quality. It doesn't have a soft nice feeling to it like Screen Printing. DTF is also merely a sticker on a shirt I don't like it tbh. But all & all thank you for the good and concise review.
You should really check out the latest DTF prints, they are remarkable. We can send you a sample, just chat with our team here: coldesi.com/coldesi-dtf/ - These are soft, wash well and don't feel like a sticker.
@@joemarz2264that could be for a variety of reasons. Maybe it was printed with a low mesh count and alot more ink was deposited. The type of ink can effect the feel as well. Its also possible that the print was not cured properly
@sollysuliman2357 i’m not too savvy on how the whole DTF process works, however, I am aware that DTF and heat transfer vinyl or two different things as well as sublimation, maybe it’s possible that you have received heat transfer vinyl print instead of DTF because vinyl prints usually have that thick sticker feel to it on the T-shirt.
I’m not too savvy on how the whole DTF process works, but it’s possible that you’re thinking about vinyl transfers, because those usually have a thick layer on top of the shirt and it feels like a sticker and a peel off after sometime. DTF heat transfer vinyl and sublimation all require heat and pressure from press to be applied onto a shirt however they are all different in terms of the technology used to get the print design onto a film
Great question - you probably would not do just one - but you CAN put as many "just one's" as you want in one run. So if you had 25 different design/shirt orders you can gang them in the software and run them. For one offs we would pare this printer with one of our DigitalHeat FX white toner machines or a DTG G4
Dtf quality is suck for t shirt, but other type of material, like jute beg, any other type of material, yes dtf offer the solution.But for quality, better for dtg or screen printing if u looking for branding
@@joemarz2264 hehe yeah, dtf very good quality, but its depend on who handles the machine, the operator must know the right amount of ink, curing timing and many things, if everything its perfect, u will get a good quality of dtf
At the same time you are saying that DTF sucks for good quality, my Audley printer is producing the most amazing colors and resolution which make people say wow!
Yes! I have both, screen print and DTF. The DTF is a complete maintenance nightmare. And the quality its not even half of screen printing. Yes dtf works for some orders that the client don’t care about quality like birthdays, one day activities.
Yes… I do full process CMYK wet on wet with half tones printing and can print literally any color or design under the rainbow. Screen printing is far superior than any other method known currently.
@@cesarfigueroa8467 This is what I was wondering. I started making clothes I started with vinyl then sublimation, dtg and then buying transfers before printing my own designs.... DTF wasn't a thing so I wasn't sure about it. But from what I've personally tested a screen printed design whether basic spot colors from vector art to CMYK to Sim Process garments, screen printed designs are far superior in the long run
Unfortunately brief statements about which is harder doesn't tell the entire story. We have many large volume users who would say that they are very happy to not be screen printing anymore, that it was much more work. However, in some cases screen printing could be a better solution. For anyone who isnt sure, it would be great to get into a deep conversation with one of our pros at coldesi.com. That would clear up misconceptions.
great breakdown of each!
digital printing has its own segment of the market just as there is for silkscreen printing. It was not mentioned in this video the pros and cons for both, just comparison of the amount of work that needs to be done.. but is it practical to use dtf to print a single design to a thousand shirts? which is more practical, economical, and faster? its still screen printing.. the hard labor of preparing the screen is only done upfront before printing, but it is still faster and economical to use this traditional process when you are printing large numbers of shirts. of course, you don't use this printing process to print 10-50 pieces of shirts, that's not the market for screen printing. That is where digital printing can be more efficient in time, labor, and cost.. so the real difference is the market segment to which a t-shirt printer provide service. That determines what is more suitable printing system or equipment to use.
Who says DTF can't easily produce 1,000 shirts? FYI a typical DTF printer can print 1,000 designs in a couple days.
@@joemarz2264 There's only one way to find out. My buddy has a screen printing shop and would love to challenge this gentleman to a print-off for 300 tees with a two-color print. (Quick note: He also has a DTF printer.) DTF is a fantastic solution for small numbers but not giant numbers. Also, preparing the screens is not as bad/timely as he makes it out to be. I would undoubtedly be on your side if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
My problem with DTG & DTF is the quality. It doesn't have a soft nice feeling to it like Screen Printing. DTF is also merely a sticker on a shirt I don't like it tbh. But all & all thank you for the good and concise review.
You should really check out the latest DTF prints, they are remarkable. We can send you a sample, just chat with our team here: coldesi.com/coldesi-dtf/ - These are soft, wash well and don't feel like a sticker.
Right now I have a screen printed shirt in my hands with a huge plasticky and heavy design.
@@joemarz2264that could be for a variety of reasons. Maybe it was printed with a low mesh count and alot more ink was deposited. The type of ink can effect the feel as well. Its also possible that the print was not cured properly
@sollysuliman2357 i’m not too savvy on how the whole DTF process works, however, I am aware that DTF and heat transfer vinyl or two different things as well as sublimation, maybe it’s possible that you have received heat transfer vinyl print instead of DTF because vinyl prints usually have that thick sticker feel to it on the T-shirt.
I’m not too savvy on how the whole DTF process works, but it’s possible that you’re thinking about vinyl transfers, because those usually have a thick layer on top of the shirt and it feels like a sticker and a peel off after sometime. DTF heat transfer vinyl and sublimation all require heat and pressure from press to be applied onto a shirt however they are all different in terms of the technology used to get the print design onto a film
What would you do do if u wanted to do like one offs with.. i feel like it be a big waste of film
Great question - you probably would not do just one - but you CAN put as many "just one's" as you want in one run. So if you had 25 different design/shirt orders you can gang them in the software and run them. For one offs we would pare this printer with one of our DigitalHeat FX white toner machines or a DTG G4
Dtf quality is suck for t shirt, but other type of material, like jute beg, any other type of material, yes dtf offer the solution.But for quality, better for dtg or screen printing if u looking for branding
my friend plwase help me. I am a brazilian guy who is trying to chose a great Band shirt. For cotton, its better silk or DtF ?
Wrong. DTF designs can have full color quality. Can you say the same of screen printing. I know... it doesn't!
@@joemarz2264 hehe yeah, dtf very good quality, but its depend on who handles the machine, the operator must know the right amount of ink, curing timing and many things, if everything its perfect, u will get a good quality of dtf
@@aimaniman5557 exactly. The operator's skill, the ink and adhesive quality, as well as the printer type are parameters that effect printing quality.
At the same time you are saying that DTF sucks for good quality, my Audley printer is producing the most amazing colors and resolution which make people say wow!
Do you guys only sell the printers or do you also sell the transfers?
Just the printers Fabiola
What about pricing ? What s the difference beetween the 2
Huge ... screen printing is super Cheap to start professional dtf printer cost 20k screen printer line table cost 200 dollers 😂
what is the price of the printer and dryer
We have 2 models - find the current pricing and more videos here: coldesi.com/coldesi-dtf/
Silkscreen is rare
🤣so true 👍🏿
You should brush up on your knowledge of screen printing. What you are describing was 20 years ago.
Yes! I have both, screen print and DTF. The DTF is a complete maintenance nightmare. And the quality its not even half of screen printing. Yes dtf works for some orders that the client don’t care about quality like birthdays, one day activities.
Yes… I do full process CMYK wet on wet with half tones printing and can print literally any color or design under the rainbow. Screen printing is far superior than any other method known currently.
@@AmericanWithTheTruth Screen printing is still king....
@@cesarfigueroa8467 This is what I was wondering. I started making clothes I started with vinyl then sublimation, dtg and then buying transfers before printing my own designs.... DTF wasn't a thing so I wasn't sure about it. But from what I've personally tested a screen printed design whether basic spot colors from vector art to CMYK to Sim Process garments, screen printed designs are far superior in the long run
DTF isn't as easy as he's making it seem. Screen printing isn't as hard as he's making it our to be.
Unfortunately brief statements about which is harder doesn't tell the entire story. We have many large volume users who would say that they are very happy to not be screen printing anymore, that it was much more work. However, in some cases screen printing could be a better solution. For anyone who isnt sure, it would be great to get into a deep conversation with one of our pros at coldesi.com. That would clear up misconceptions.