Modified Subaru Outback Wilderness Off Road Trail Test
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Took my modified Subaru outback wilderness to hidden falls off road adventure trail park. This wilderness has a 2" additional lift kit, slightly larger 245/65/R-17 BFG Goodrich KO2 tires and CVT / Rear Differential skid plates.
Great video on showcasing this edition. Not many CZcams channels that can actually showcase what this wilderness package can do. 👍👍
In 1987 I bought a new Subaru turbo 4wd wagon. About four months later, I drove it carefully around the 100 mile white rim trail in canyonlands n.p., no problems. The more advanced Subarus of today are much better equipped for rough trails.
Thank you for showing actual driving through real situations! Probably more than that, thank you for now having some silly music playing or unnecessary commentary. I'm thinking about buying one and this video cutting out the BS was incredibly helpful.
I love the wilderness edition of outback and forester Made a great vehicle even better. Wish I had the funds to buy one
U not alone in that
Ooohhhh yeahhhh...!!! Like that...👍😅
As I would tell my boss when I would go to the Detroit Auto Show, "I'm going to see what I can afford 'used' in about 5 years." 🤣🤣
Just purchased an OBW this past weekend and I cannot wait to take it on camping adventures! I’m glad I saw this video all the people who “test” them I feel are not being genuine about the feedback. Somehow they got stuck on terrain much milder than this so this is refreshing to see
This one is lifted and has better tires than stock so the stock OBW would probably have some trouble in this terrain in the video (especially since the stock tires are meant for non muddy condition)
I just took mine all through CO on some crazy jeep trails and it rocked!!!
Nice! Where did you go? I’m wanting to attempt black bear pass next year lol
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 Take it from a former local - Black Bear is for short wheelbases only. Best way to experience it is to ride with a local tour driver. Some of them have decades on the trail. Besides, there's so many other world-class roads in the county - why cause the lifted ambulance drivers to make yet another run up the mountain to scape a body off?
@@tomKphotoFortCollins I appreciate the info. I’ve seen many 4 runners do it who have just a little longer wheelbase than the outback. Do you think even with an experienced spotter it would be too dangerous? Of course I’ll be doing all the other drives nearby, but would be sad to pass up on black bear
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 With a spotter, and careful set-up of each turn you can do it (the tour pick-ups do it all the time so it's not impossible).
What jeep trails exactly? Don't let that all trail rating get you in over your head lol
I love the Forrester Wilderness, but chose the Sport instead. I lifted it by an inch, added a K&N intake and a Flow Master exhaust, increasing the HP, torque & mpg.
The 1 inch lift brought my 22 Sport up to the 9.7 inch ground clearance like the Wilderness. I also added Falcon Wild Peak trail tires.
Now my Forrester can go & do anything that a Wilderness can.
I’m thinking about a rear locking differential, but so far I haven’t had the need for it.
I saved thousands of dollars by doing these simple mods to my Sport.
Just my opinion, a locking rear would be a large waste in modern Subarus. Everything else you did I would actually love to do to mine, but I imagine a locker would throw off a wide variety of components and not add much considering the sophistication of these awd systems. Just my two cents. Sounds like you’ve got a sweet forester though!
@@driveorride2143 I haven’t installed a rear locker yet. I’m still thinking about it.
So far my Subie gets me to hiking trails and to a fairly rough road to my fishing hole. (Before my Subie, I’d take my 4X4 pickup to my fishing hole).
Before the 1” lift on my Forester, the skid plates came in handy, LOL
@David Smith I know this is about a year old, I just wanted to add that the Wilderness also has a CVT cooler and lower axle gearing and CVT gearing than the other trims, which is why it has double the towing capacity.
@@ThinkFreely2012 I did add the CVT cooler.
With the lower gearing the Wilderness gets worse fuel economy.
It’s hard enough paying for Socialist Biden’s fuel economy as it is.
@David Smith Ah, well, seems you've got me at a disadvantage. I thought it conversation was going to be about capability, as you initially hinted. And now you've changed it up to economy! Lol If that was my priority then I would have gone for something more like a Crosstrek.
As for the capability, the lower gearing means you have more available torque for climbing over larger objects and steeper hills more gently instead of having to have a running start. It also allows you to use larger tires to take that ability further. The 2.5l in the Forester is already very low on power with no turbo, it really needs that extra torque.
I'm not putting down the improvements you made. I'm happy you did them. I'm just saying "just as capable" is a stretch. And gas is cheap down here in Texas. ;)
Thanks a lot for the awesome videos man! Makes me even more excited for mine to arrive!
It was handling everything like a champ!
That's awesome a subie in its environment 😊
Oh man that is so rad... awesome rig, thank you for sharing this.
Love the look of the Wilderness Outback! And also love Hidden Falls I have ridden ATVs there many times I used to live in Marble Falls
Such a rad video Wilderness! I hope one day I’ll be financially set enough to purchase one of these 🤞
Extremely impressive.
I'm on track to get one in December (fingers crossed). Can't wait!
Man i wish you didn’t sell it. You make the best OBW videos
Thanks so much for posting these. Big fun watching x-drive doing its thing (can't do it while you're driving)
Impressive! Loving this Wilderness.
Love it! That’s some deep water!
Thank you for sharing. Do you know what your approach, break-over, and departure angles became after the 2" lift and slightly larger tires? Thanks.
That was some awesome Subaru action.
Thank you for the Videos definitely a thank you for this one, love the white and black combo color on this Wilderness, I currently own a 2002 Outback and a 2003 BAJA so yes I'm a Subie fan friends of ours have two Crosstrek's a Forester and a Outback I'm jealous lol but I would love to get a hold of the Wilderness they just have that look to them that makes you say I want to see and know more about the rig just from stock add some after market tires and they just look great. Again thank you for the videos keep up with the amazing work!!!!!!
I've got a 2010 Outback, and happy as a pig in poop with it.
This would be great for my wife! She does not like Jeeps & Trucks. The Outback is super capable and much more comfortable than Jeeps or trucks...
Also, does the two inch lift mess with the eyesight system??
Your videos are awesome keep it up. Wish I could test this here in europe.
Ok, just a question… if we don’t like the look of the Geolanders & want to change to BF KO2s but stock size, is that doable?
Hello I just recently purchased a 2018 subaru outback 3.6r limited I was wondering if the stock rims will fit a GEOLANDAR A/T G015 tires and if there will be any issue doing so. Also any suggestion on All terrain tires ? If so will it fit the stock rims? On a budget at the moment
Capable vehicle and driver 👌 😎
Shit!!! That’s beautiful. My crosstrek would snap lol
I want one. I need to replace my 1999 Legacy Outback.
Do you have breather tubes for your differentials? If not aren't you worried about getting water in them?
So does the full size spare have the original tire on it or does a larger tire fit in there?
amazing video, thank you for posting! This video makes me that much closer in picking one for my self, I am between this and 4runner but love the comfort of daily driving.
I got to ask thou, does the lift/bigger tires mess your eye sight system? like your adaptive cruise and other safety high way driving controls?
did you take a large hit on MPG because of the lift?
Any info would be great. Thank you!!
I was also considering a 4Runner, definitely a tough choice! This wilderness will handle 95% of the realistic places you wanna go, but a 4Runner would be better if you constantly go to dedicated off road parks.
The eyesight has not changed at all. I lost about 2mpg after the bigger tires were put on..which is well worth it for me. The lift itself didn’t really change my MPG. The drive quality is still just as good to me, but with my bigger more aggressive tires.. you feel more sluggish to accelerate.
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 Thank you very much for the info :)
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 Another "thank you" as I was wondering the same. Getting a 2" body lift and slightly larger tires for my Geyser Blue which should be here in a couple more weeks.
Love your videos BTW, keep them coming!
does the water come in the door or are they sealed
Ppl keep mentioning a lift kit. Does the model shown for this demonstration have a lift on it - in addition to the wilderness package?
Nice! Thanks for sharing. What kind of tires do you have on your outback wilderness?
My heart aches for that once beautiful clean engine bay that's now muddy as all get out. :(
what MPG are you getting with those tires and 2 inch lift?
Напоминает дорогу на дачу после дождя. И ее я преодолеваю на Субару на обычной шоссейке
Haven't seen any new videos. Did you get rid of it?
Can you pre load the turbo at all or does it cut power right away?
Hell yeah!
Just got my OBW. Coming from a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. Do you hold steady pressure on the gas and let the X-mode figure out what to do or do you increase/decrease the acceleration?
Let it figure out
Subaru 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤
What lift are you running?
UPDATE: LP ADVENTURES 2” lift
I don’t know if I would do the KO2’s because they’re heavy as hell. They do perform though.
Did it end up being a full 2” lift after install ?
Mine comes in the end of December sometime. I’ll be towing with it so bigger tires won’t be my thing. Might take it up an inch though.
Biggest advantage of K02s over many other "AT" tires is heavy and tough carcass. Many AT tires today are just passenger car tires with a semi-aggressive looking tread. But go past a snail's pace on sharp rock and their limitations can become known almost instantly. I have been putting BFG ATs on my rigs since the 80s, usually after pin-cushioning the lightweight OEM tires. Just put some K02s on my Outback today. It was nice today to be able to rip down the crushed rock logging roads instead of tip toe along like I had been on the stockers.
I put 225/65/17 on mine to retain the stock OA height and gear ratio, and save as much weight as possible. I went with Sparco Terras, and the weighed difference between stock and the new setup was 10 pounds. According to Tire Rack website, the 245/65/17 would have added another 5 pounds if I recall. You are right, they are heavy as hell, at least compared to stock.
Did the new tire setup change road noise in the cab much?
what lift did you go with keep up great video's
Does the lift void the warranty?? Looks frigging awesome 👌 👍👍👍
From a chat I had with a service advisor, it went necessarily void warranty. However, if your axle seals start leaking after the lift then they may not cover fixing the seals. He also said they used to install lifts for customers all the time, until recently when Subaru told them that dealers were no longer allowed to install lifts at all, due to the height change could possibly affecting the Eyesight system.
Great video. How are the KO’s on noise and gas milage?
Who did your lift for you here in Texas?
Just looked like my driveway
That's a real test
what material are the tow hook covers made of?
01:53 is some Rony Dahl stuff!!
Éste Subaru es igualito al mío mismo color. pero el mío de Ciudad nunca lo he sacado así a la montaña.
what kind of crossbars do you use?
Makes a wilderness more wild.....What's a warranty worth?
Who’s lift are you using?
I've had mine for about a month. I just ordered a lift and ko2s. Did the mods void your warranty?
Most likely
Every dealer seems to be different. Supposedly some will void, while others won’t. There are dealerships that sell outback’s pre installed with the same lift kit I have on now, and aggressive tires.
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 thanks. I read the same thing in forums after posting my question.
Have you looked into an exhaust or any proformance mods yet?
Great videos by the way! I think ive watched every review online for the wilderness.
Impressive!
I reckon you’ll be replacing the brakes in about six months that muddy water just cakes every thing up
What‘s the difficulty rating of that trail?
Another fun video!
Besides adding the lift, did you do any other mods? CV joints or anything like that??
Not currently, right now it just has the lift, slightly larger more aggressive KO2 tires and 2 additional skid plates underneath
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 how much did the lift cost you?? Did the mechanic say that it would be tougher on the drivetrain?
I ask because your build looks dope af and I wanna do it to mine.
ANY LP ADVENTURES LIFT REGRETS?
Nicely done.
What’s size your tire?
can they make it up dino falls
so now the ground clearance is around 11" ? very handsome looking outback btw new tires are looking awesome.
Yes, I've measured below the car and the original lowest point is 11.5". However, I do have a CVT skid plate that hangs a little lower now at about 11.2-11.3".
It says modified but does not say what the modifications are
What lift did you get to add the 2 additional inches
LP Aventure
Please don’t get crazy I’m trying to understand; why not just buy a jeep or something designed to be taken off-road. I like the Subaru for what it is.
This car with turbo?)
And now after going through all that water, you get to drain your rear differential
somewhere in TX ?
Same tire size? Also how many inches lift it that. Have you tried lane assist if it still works accurately?
It’s a 2” additional lift. The tires have about an inch larger diameter.. 245/65/R-17. The lane assist is still working accurately for me
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 nice! thanks so much for the info. any issues at all when turning etc after the lift? or anything at all?
@@timothyj.2937 nothing has been a problem for me. Just feel higher up when driving of course. But I’ve been really happy with how it turned out. Noticed a big change capability wise right away after getting the lift.
Awesome looking rig! I just love the whole Subaru thing but to be honest I wonder about the CVT. Forgive me for being ignorant but are they problematic?
Power wise, I have not run into any stall issues with the revised CVT. As far as longevity, I guess only time will tell. I've seen many people talk mostly about old Subaru CVT's failing as early as 80k miles. Then, I see tons of people saying they are at 180,000 miles with no type of issue.
I’m in Australia but my cvt has done 224000 km and still going strong, I will admit it sounds weird but…
Our other subie has 120000km on its cvt, again with no issue
I may be lucky, but I do own 2 one with very high km
are disconnecting your sway bar when doing all this testing?
No, didn't touch them at all. Although, I think next time i'm there.. I will try it out with the rear sway bars disconnected
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The car looks great but I don't understand why you'd modify a Subaru like this rather than opting for a true 4x4 like a 4Runner. The lift and K02's probably make the difference in fuel economy pretty small and even a stock 4Runner is going to be much more capable off road.
I had an '01 Impreza Outback Sport which was tons of fun and surprisingly capable off road and as zippy and fun as you'd expect on road. I could never imagine neutering its road manners with a lift and AT tires, and even then it wouldn't hold a candle to my '98 4Runner off road.
Not trying to hate, at the end of the day it's your car and you should do whatever you want with it and not listen to strangers on the internet
I agree, and I will honestly probably own a 4Runner in the future. But, at 6’5 the outback is just way more comfortable driving, and the speed is fun. I don’t have access to trails where I would regularly need any more capability then what you see in the video. If I lived in Colorado, I would most likely have a 4runner
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 Fair point, I haven't driven the newer Subarus but am sure they have better road manners than a 4Runner. Coincidentally I'm 6'5" as well and find my '98 roomy in that regard, but it is definitely a bouncier rougher ride with it being a smaller body on frame truck. I've driven a '16 4Runner a handful of times and also found it roomy enough for my height (not sure if anythings changed since then). And yeah 4Runners are definitely slow, but I frequent trails in the Sierras enough that the compromises are worth it for me. Interested to see what they do to the 4Runner for the next generation
@@lyzyrdskydr4961 same, with a little better mpg and maybe button controlled sway bar disconnects.. I might have to bite lol
Not to mention there’s a definite cool-factor to the Subie SUV/wagon that I’m not sure the 4Runner has, although it’s definitely a nice vehicle as well.
Is this an off road vehicle park?
Yep, Hidden Falls Adventure Park in Marble Falls, TX
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 nice. Looking forward to taking my 2021 Outback in the snow one day.
I love your rig bro! Any rubbing with the larger tires? Keep the videos coming.
None at all!
👍 I’m still deciding between the Green & Blue colors. I like the white and it makes sense in the Texas summer heat, but I also like the Green a lot. Keep the off-road videos coming. ✌️
@@kcrush1 that’s a tough one.. green was definitely my second choice
@@wildernessinwilderness8032 well maybe we’ll meet up on the trail. I’m up in Dallas. 🤟
I’m sold. Guess I’m spendin 40k….
Should I go deeper in water! 😂
Is this Subie a fucking diesel? :o
Well that Wilderness made that Wilderness look too easy. Subaru have been listening to their customers haven't they?
Supeeeeeer
Very good video. I am a 76yo overlander and I am very impressed with the Wilderness and you added just the right new stuff. Did you ever get an after market skid plate like you said in one of your videos?
Good 4 w drive systems but to bad the engines a crap they need to develope a good v6
I have this car, that engine is plenty strong, freakish amounts of power with the 2.4L turbo (260hp and 0-60 around 5.6 seconds on my end). Had no issues with some 38% grades coming out of Ouray CO on some of the high trails.
The 2.4L turbo is actually pretty stout.
Subi can't go up hill
Subi can go up hill
Subi go up hill better than 65K JL Wrangler for almost half the cost.
Gonna drown the turbo and motor if you go to deep. Need a snorkle
it's a nice edition, though i'd say the KO2s are a bit of an overkill...
I don’t know how confident I would have been at 1:52 with the Geolanders
Not at all. Not if you are going to do these kinds of things with it regularly. But for my money, I'd welcome smaller wheels and more air volume for the tires. That would make as much if not more difference, especially aired down. Especially in snow, sand, mud and Sharp rocks. Databyter
KO2's are perfect. You need the right tire for the right application. I'd prefer being able to get a 15 or 16" wheel for more volume. Then when you air down you a bigger footprint from a more aggressive harder tire built for mud, rocks... etc.. Have you noticed how soft and useless the OEM tires are?
A JLU Sport could do all that and more for $4k less, but good luck with your $14k looks package! XD
Believe it or not not everyone wants an uncomfortable jeep! XD
Where I live, new Wrangler Unlimited Sports are going for several thousand dollars more than this and that is if you can find one. You must mean a two-door Wrangler Sport. As an owner of a 2015 JKU Rubicon, the W in W is correct; not everyone wants an uncomfortable jeep. Not all the leather and heated seats in the world will make that thing ride more comfortably. Along with the real fuel mileage of owning a Jeep, I'm over it. I love Jeeps, but they are horrible daily drivers.
These are great. The only flaw in the design is that they can't take smaller wheels and hence taller sidewalls that allow for more air volume and airdown potential. Those tires even upgraded are borderline too low profile to task the car with more than it already does great. And it does do what it does great, on and off road. The 17 inch wheels are as small as you can go, but having tires that big on 15's would make this even more capable. Im surprised Subaru didn't at least make it an option for this trim, but they are going the other direction, much like other car manufacturers. At least they didn't outfit the Wilderness with lower profile 18's like some of the other trims. Even some of the more Offroad serious brands and models like the Land Rover Defender sport wheels that are far too large with low profile AT's (if there is such a thing). So I am not picking on Subaru. All of the brands are following an ignorant trend that looks better than it performs. It is my pet peeve. I wanted to buy the Wilderness, and probably still will, but my plans of putting on proper high profile tires based on 15, or at least 16 inch wheels is not going to work unless I can remove the large brake calipers and replace them with something smaller, or rework the wheel wells to allow for much larger tires on 17 inch wheels. Like maybe 32's And at the end of the day, it's just not worth it unless just for the challenge of the project. The whole idea of the Wilderness is that it was supposed to be more capable out the door. The factory was trying to emulate what all of us were doing. Well, bigger wells and smaller rims would have been a welcome addition to that recipe. A strut lift and a better ratio is nice. But it would be 100% more useful on the right high volume tires, which can't be fitted to this vehicle as it comes. Still for 90% of the people that buy this, it is more than enough for what it will be asked to do, and so I'd guess Subaru hit their mark, and they are at least going in the right direction for many fans that want more offroad dna reintroduced. Databyter
a 65 aspect sidewall on 245mm KO2s is more than enough tire for anything you might throw at this open diff e-locker station wagon lol you're trippin bud
think you drive a jeep, poor subaru😂😂
What additonal 2' lift did you go with?
Lp Aventure