I wonder what kind of issues Steve must have. There's no way a person who values themselves would put up with being treated like this. I worry for him more than I worry for Debbi. He looks visibly nervous too.
You dense, apathetic robot. Yeah, Steve certainly has a glaringly obvious 'issue': he loves someone who has a really difficult, psychological disorder, and is exercising compassion, understanding and patience. What an issue, stop the fucking clocks people.
Jorg Ancrath Sorry I just don't find that to be applicable in this circumstance. I think he has his own psychological problems that make him codependent on her despite the overwhelming amount of harassment. He's basically encouraging her disorder by not sticking up for himself. By your logic, anyone not willing to put themselves into this situation would be incapable of being empathetic.
Jessicanana89 I'm training to be a clinical psychologist in Edinburgh, and your argument conflicts with just about everything I stand for. I'm pretty sure there a clinical diagnosis for this level of apathy. By your cold logic, anyone who's ever dated someone struggling through other mental illnesses such as depression or bipolar disorder has their "own psychological problems that make them codependent". I dare say you're the one with psychological problems. If you ever get married, I hope you leave out the "In sickness and in health" part.
Jorg Ancrath So sound more like an armchair psychologist to me. Your argument sounds biased to me. I'll guess it's because you're eager to express some random fact you read somewhere, or you're insecure about some mental issues you may have yourself. Ironically, your not representing this "compassion" you supposedly stand for, just because I disagree with you. He doesn't owe it to her to be in a romantic relationship. He can still support her if he feels like it. But the whole situation wreaks of codependency.
Umm noooo BECAUSE ITS A DISORDER ITS NOT FUCKING ABUSIVE IT IS JUST HOW SHE IS SHES WORKING THRU IT y’all are absolutely disgusting I seriously hope you get your fucking life together and stop being so invested in what other ppl are doing in there relationship
Othello Syndrome: also known as coercive and controlling domestic abuse which has finally been recognised as a crime (as of 2015) in its own right! This is beyond disturbing.
You are absolutely correct. I am married to a beautiful woman who has this sickness, it was mild but definitely evident the first 26 years of our relationship. The last 3 years have been hell... accusing and actually believing in her mind that I cheated on her. I would take a day to explain all the crazy thoughts she has had in those three years, you would think I was the paranoid one not her if I told you. I believe it stems from the fact that her boyfriend before I met her cheated on her with her best friend. This was less than a year after she went through a major physical transformation from her junior to senior year in high school. She went from a chubby plain little girl to a stunningly beautiful woman. Just when she felt confident and happy with herself, her a...hole boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend. She has never trusted me from day one, I always blew it off thinking she would outgrow it or mature, she never did.
Gladiator Roman - I’m sorry you have to deal with that, and you have my utmost respect for recognizing the possible reasons for her mistrust. Have either of you tried therapy? Even if she chooses not to go, it may help you to cope with her behavior. I have been on both sides of the jealousy issue. I was a very, very skinny, awkward child and teen. I was always made fun of by family, friends, and strangers. I grew up to look ok, and had facial surgery as an adult which made me look better. (I later found out I have a genetic syndrome - a connective tissue disorder that caused my awkward appearance.) I am happier with how I look now, but I still struggle with low self-esteem. I had a few boyfriends who were very jealous, and one who even stalked me and spied on me. I was jealous of a couple of guys I dated - one who I considered to be far out of my league, and another who would hide things and keep secrets. Then I met the man I would marry. He was obsessed with me, and I with him. We talked about being cheated on by previous partners, and promised each other we would end the marriage before we ever even considered cheating on one another. But three years into our marriage, my health started to decline (due to the genetic condition). I eventually had to stop working, and I could not be as active as I was previously. He suddenly left one day, and moved away. He returned a year later, and we tried to reconcile. But his girlfriend followed him back, and he cheated on me with her. He left two months later to be with her again. I trusted this man with my life. I ignored the signs that he was cheating because I never, ever thought he would do that to me. I felt so naive and stupid. He has been gone almost two years, and our divorce was just finalized. But I have not dated since he left. He has left me very jaded and distrustful. It was an amazingly painful thing to go through - to get sick, have my husband walk out, return, cheat, and walk out again, all while I’m fighting an illness. I am so very lonely. But the fact that I am now unable to trust any potential mate is not fair to anyone I try to date, and I’m afraid of being rejected again due to my health, so I don’t even try to date. I hope your wife is able to find peace and security in your marriage. You sound like a good man.
The Original EB, I am trying, she won't admit to the things she has done, she denies she does them, she says she believes and trusts me but her actions and words paint a very clear and different picture.
@@liite5848 Nope, watch other interviews too, whenever the other woman talks to him Debbi starts showing discomfort, cutting the interviewer or constantly glaring at both sides, she has ISSUES and need to be treated
Othello syndrome is a new term to me. I recently stumbled across it while looking in to neurological conditions (primarily Parkinson’s which OS seems to have a high co-morbidity rate with). I've now looked more in to Debbi and Steve's story as it's one of the most documented in the public light. Steve is being emotionally abused but I don't think she really means it if the OS diagnosis is correct. However, what is bothering me is that there are clear and sound studies that show effective treatment for OS and yet during every article and interview I've witnessed so far there is no mention of Debbi receiving this treatment. In other coverage of her situation it seems clear that she is abusing the benefit system and I do wonder if she is actively engaging with treatment for this condition and if the DWP are aware of what is really going on. With psychological and neuro conditions there is no "one size fits all" but it appears as though she has made zero effort to seek the appropriate professional help.
Yes because if she gets treatment she may have to start looking for work. She's an expert at playing the system. She's getting paid to lie in bed all day being pampered by her poor husband and home helps and carers. The only thing she lifts is a fork or an xbox controller.
christopher benson how? She’s hooking him up to a lie detector. How do they find happiness if this story excuse for a woman is abusing this sorry excuse for a man? They’re never going to be happy.
Raine Perry Well, I doubt if he's fighting 'em off with a big stick. If he had a spine he'd tell her to grow up and be grateful anyone's prepared to out up with her.
I feel like she keeps saying how she is the emotional prisioner and she is the one that suffers... I get that, but when a man can't even watch a TV show that has a woman on it or even be near another women he is the one who is suffering not her. Im sure she is suffering in her own way but I just dont think she really understands the impact her actions have on him. I feel bad for him but I don't know who would stay in a Relashionship with someone who is as controlling as her. I think he could do better.
Ronald Plushkis Actually Othello Syndrome is more common in men, it's rare in women. What we need is a better understanding of the illness (which it is) and no judgement from either sexes.
Charlotte Whiting - I doubt it's rare in women. Women get excused by society for most things they do, so it's probably not recorded as much as with men.
If he was female and she was male this would be considered an abusive relationship and they'd be convincing her to get help. Because the man is being abused it's a funny joke?!
It wouldn't matter if she took therapy. Some abusers can and DO go into therapy as a ploy - to make it LOOK like they are actually working on their own behavior, and accepting responsibility for their actions, when, in fact, the real motive is to arm themselves with distortions of the therapist's words and tools, in an effort to heighten and increase the psychological warfare. (that's where she takes feed out of context for her book)The bottom line, is that you can't trust an emotional abuser, the same way you can't trust the married man who is having an affair and keeps promising to leave his wife.
I think she may actually have some kind of mental disorder..some post traumatic stress symptoms from her previous relationship or cluster B personality type traits related to fears of abandonment
You obviously did not listen to anything Othello syndrome People jazz Way more people have than you think not due to low self-esteem but mainly societies expectations on women How can she feel beautiful when everybody around her is telling her she’s not and how can you sit there and say that’s abusive if it was he wouldn’t be openly admitting that he’s happy in his relationship he would be saying he is not it’s messed up that everybody else’s opinion really gets in the way of whats actually being said like I don’t understand why is it so bad that you don’t want your significant other to look at another person and that lie detector test he could’ve denied it but he took it willingly you can’t just go and jump into conclusions when he is obviously happy and you’re obviously the insecure one
@@amethyst6526 First of all, if only speaking out about abuse was actually that easy, you absolute nugget,he’s not just gonna admit it on National TV is he, especially not when his abuser is sitting right there and is a great deal bigger than him, poor guy looks terrified the entire time and you think that’s a happy relationship? I pity anyone in a relationship with YOU. Othello Syndrome is also no longer a condition and has in fact been recognised as coercive control and domestic abuse, it’s been a crime since 2015.
People that say this is a “delightful” couple hasn’t seen how she treated him when there was a documentary done on them. She treated him like a slave, bashed on him for even looking at Mel B in a newspaper, made him take a weird phone lie detector test to prove he isn’t attracted to other people and treats him so poorly. I’m a woman and even I can see is that if this was a man doing this to a woman, it would be classed as abuse. Not only mental abuse but coercive control. Who goes through everything including someone’s bank accounts and does not allow their partner to watch tv with a woman on. It’s utterly disgraceful and just because you have a name for a condition, does not mean that they can use that to abuse their partner. It’s disgraceful.
No she does not she’s simply explaining YOU FUCKING TOOK IT THAT WAY CUZ YOURE INSECURE AND HAVE TRAUMA YOU HAVENT FIGURED OUT YET…. She explained what happened to her you literally said I AM A VICTIM ME ME ME
I genuinely feel for them both, they’re actually both lovely, but she needs help, she has so little self esteem and taking it out on him isn’t fair, you can tell he loves her if he’s willing to stay
Why would anyone torture themself and be in such a toxic relationship? She need to work on her self and her confidence. In time it will get worst and she will drive him away. She's to controlling and has no boundaries.
I was watching 'Told I Was Too Fat To Work | Supersized Ep.2' which also features Debbi talking about her woes because she is so obese. She mentioned she had Othello syndrome which I googled and found this clip. This lady has some MAJOR issues but I think her husband does too. I can't imagine any other reason he is with her
I know right. Who would know that gaining more knowledge about psychology would make us better at recognizing certain conditions and make us less judgemental and more understanding? What a travesty!!!
+SYNDICAIDRAMON Also made psychologists over diagnose everyone and allowed us to overly tolerate and justify people like this just being crazy arseholes. It’s all a last ditch attempt to turn us into our own individual snowflakes.
I’m really good at reading people. She’s not overcoming her jealousy; merely trying to portray she is. She is cringing with jealousy. She watches him to see where his eyes go. Sad part is is that he feels he has no other options, so he stays. Sad situation.
One thing many people don't seem to understand is,in life you need to also put yourself first. You can't go quenching a fire in someone else's house while yours is on fire. People need to realize that you can lose your mind all in the name of trying to care for someone. What's the use of trying so hard when you'll definitely end up damaging your own mental health. Don't be a therapist to someone who clearly isn't willing to change. Don't end up losing your life and damaging your mental and physical health all in the name of trying to be understanding in a situation that clearly isn't worth it.
I think it's called overweight insecure gf syndrome. If you can't handle a skinny bf then stay in your lane... He won't stay no matter how much he wishes he can.
Why would you ask??? To be honest...I couldn't watch the whole thing. It really bothered me for some odd reason.. I was talking more about the show I think! Maybe they are trying to help! I hope so.
I just want to say that from the perspective of someone who has dealt with something akin to being with someone with a porn problem like she describes, and what it had turned me into and I still struggle with to this day, it is NOT unreasonable for someone to be so paranoid and jealous. I consider myself a rational person but when someone abuses your trust and lies to you and hides intimate secrets from you and then gaslights you or tries to, telling you you are crazy when you KNOW you arent then you start getting fed up with it REAL fast. Okay? I went through a time when every single thing my significant other did would set off alarms. Whenever an attractive female walked by, I noticed him subtly turn his head toward her while trying to mask it by pretending he was scratching his head or something and that in an of itself would not have bothered me so much if he wasnt trying to hide it. Cheating can be classified in a number of ways, not just physical sex with someone else. If you knowingly do something that you know would hurt your significant other if they found out over and over again and then deny it when youve been caught - that is cheating. All the self denial in the world wont change that. And as for these two - she was not recovered from her past experience with this and he... well - he probably kinda likes it the way she goes nuts over him because I wouldnt call him the most attractive guy and maybe he himself has previous experience being with someone who didnt care so he might like the attention. Who knows?? Point is - this sort of thing is easy to judge from afar but you really don't know the first thing about it if thats how you see it.
When someone abuses your trust, it is terrible. But behaving this way is not justified. You either have to move on or find a healthy way to rebuild trust. This behavior is abusive and toxic to the core
I don't want to come across as cruel and ignorant or whatever other name people have to give people these days but if I was in this guys situation I would leave the relationship. This isn't a life I would wish to live. It's not healthy, there is no trust, you are being controlled, you can't interact with other people without living in fear of being emotionally abused for talking to people that are considered more attractive. It may be selfish but you only have one life and if the person you choose to spend your life with is causing you this much misery and no freedom then you need to be selfish. People like this woman need to help themselves before they add someone else into the mix and make their lives just as miserable as their own.
What the hell is wrong with people unnecessarily bringing up the way she looks and her size, there is no need to crush a persons confidence and make them feel shit 😒
Great they made some positiv steps together! :-) I think she didn‘t yet overcome her problems. People tend to ponit more on others when they feel depressed about themselves. It‘s sort of an assumingly easier way to make oneself feel better for an instant. Maybe it‘s the failure of her past relationship - also maybe the alcohol issue or something else in her live - she didn‘t yet find a way to deal with... (usually it’s a sum of several things) Controling every step of her new fiance - who really seems to be loving and loyal - can‘t be the right strategy to prevent loss from happening again, though... I suggest that she learns to accept that you can‘t „imprison“ people, and that they can always leave you.. But as there are people who leave, there will be new ones to come. Yes, she is obese and she doesn‘t look like she is doing her body much good... I am sure a healthy diet and some exercise would help her to get calmer and even apreciate herself more... As for the beauty: Outer beauty matters as well! I don‘t mean botox-lips an „perfect skin“ ... but an appearances which signals that a person is healthy and feels generally well. I think one can see at first sight, that she feels bad about herself....
This is such bull. That’s so wrong how controlling she is and everything is just having a laugh and calling it an illness. So what if this was the other way round ?. Because if it was a man being abusive like this, it wouldn’t be accepted at all. This woman needs serious help. She is obviously very insecure about herself and needs help.
Oh no, life is too short for that shit. I highly doubt she is as recovered as she claims. She talks about her traumatic relationship and her imprisonment but not how her abusive and controlling behaviour effects him.
ARE THEY TOGETHER NOW? been trying to find info but can't find ANYTHING on either of them in 2024 I'm very curious as this was ten years ago hmm. Debbie will be in her early 50s now Steve about 40. Someone help plz thanks ❤
Such a great guy and a lovely lady. Hope they can get thru this and embrace a brightet future. Wish they would rather surrender their relationship om God and see the change!
i understand jealousy to a degree , i struggled with lack of trust and jealousy in the past due to my partner at the time cheating and having an online sex addiction , so many lies and so much hurt . but if your at a point where your current partner hasn’t given you any reason to think they are being unfaithful and you are becoming jealous and severely controlling either way you should not be in a relationship . there’s a difference between needing to build trust and work on your jealousy issues and trying to normalise and justify emotional abuse and control .
Syndrome or no syndrome, you are responsible for your behaviour. The cycle breaks when you start taking accountability for your life and stop using your diagnosis as a crutch.
Why do people feel like its ok to put down another person. That's what's wrong with this world everyone likes to make fun of how people look how they dress or how they act. Stop being so damn shallow.
I agree to a point. I couldn’t care less what someone looks like / dresses like. But she is leeching off of tax payer money while complaining about it , literally treats her spouse like a personal slave , has severe issues with jealousy & seems to be an overall nasty unpleasant person. That’s what I’m judging her on .
I wonder what kind of issues Steve must have. There's no way a person who values themselves would put up with being treated like this. I worry for him more than I worry for Debbi. He looks visibly nervous too.
You dense, apathetic robot.
Yeah, Steve certainly has a glaringly obvious 'issue': he loves someone who has a really difficult, psychological disorder, and is exercising compassion, understanding and patience.
What an issue, stop the fucking clocks people.
Jorg Ancrath Sorry I just don't find that to be applicable in this circumstance. I think he has his own psychological problems that make him codependent on her despite the overwhelming amount of harassment. He's basically encouraging her disorder by not sticking up for himself. By your logic, anyone not willing to put themselves into this situation would be incapable of being empathetic.
Jessicanana89 I'm training to be a clinical psychologist in Edinburgh, and your argument conflicts with just about everything I stand for. I'm pretty sure there a clinical diagnosis for this level of apathy. By your cold logic, anyone who's ever dated someone struggling through other mental illnesses such as depression or bipolar disorder has their "own psychological problems that make them codependent".
I dare say you're the one with psychological problems. If you ever get married, I hope you leave out the "In sickness and in health" part.
Jorg Ancrath So sound more like an armchair psychologist to me. Your argument sounds biased to me. I'll guess it's because you're eager to express some random fact you read somewhere, or you're insecure about some mental issues you may have yourself. Ironically, your not representing this "compassion" you supposedly stand for, just because I disagree with you.
He doesn't owe it to her to be in a romantic relationship. He can still support her if he feels like it. But the whole situation wreaks of codependency.
Jessicanana89 well bloody said I salute you miss
let's be honest though, if it was the other way round the boyfriend would be seen as emotionally abusive. that is an abusive relationship
Its emotionally abusive either way. She is a horrible person and he should leave her.
Umm noooo BECAUSE ITS A DISORDER ITS NOT FUCKING ABUSIVE IT IS JUST HOW SHE IS SHES WORKING THRU IT y’all are absolutely disgusting I seriously hope you get your fucking life together and stop being so invested in what other ppl are doing in there relationship
Totally!! She’s emotionally trapping him! Disgusting woman!
@@rainac.2719 she’s a disgusting! Doesn’t deserve anyone!
@@rainac.2719 narcissism and sociopathy are both disorders but it doesn’t give narcissists and sociopaths the right to treat others like shit
Othello Syndrome: also known as coercive and controlling domestic abuse which has finally been recognised as a crime (as of 2015) in its own right! This is beyond disturbing.
I think jealousy is due to a combination of things, like low self esteem, lack of trust, and previous experience with betrayal.
You are absolutely correct. I am married to a beautiful woman who has this sickness, it was mild but definitely evident the first 26 years of our relationship. The last 3 years have been hell... accusing and actually believing in her mind that I cheated on her. I would take a day to explain all the crazy thoughts she has had in those three years, you would think I was the paranoid one not her if I told you. I believe it stems from the fact that her boyfriend before I met her cheated on her with her best friend. This was less than a year after she went through a major physical transformation from her junior to senior year in high school. She went from a chubby plain little girl to a stunningly beautiful woman. Just when she felt confident and happy with herself, her a...hole boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend. She has never trusted me from day one, I always blew it off thinking she would outgrow it or mature, she never did.
Gladiator Roman - I’m sorry you have to deal with that, and you have my utmost respect for recognizing the possible reasons for her mistrust. Have either of you tried therapy? Even if she chooses not to go, it may help you to cope with her behavior.
I have been on both sides of the jealousy issue. I was a very, very skinny, awkward child and teen. I was always made fun of by family, friends, and strangers. I grew up to look ok, and had facial surgery as an adult which made me look better. (I later found out I have a genetic syndrome - a connective tissue disorder that caused my awkward appearance.) I am happier with how I look now, but I still struggle with low self-esteem.
I had a few boyfriends who were very jealous, and one who even stalked me and spied on me. I was jealous of a couple of guys I dated - one who I considered to be far out of my league, and another who would hide things and keep secrets.
Then I met the man I would marry. He was obsessed with me, and I with him. We talked about being cheated on by previous partners, and promised each other we would end the marriage before we ever even considered cheating on one another. But three years into our marriage, my health started to decline (due to the genetic condition). I eventually had to stop working, and I could not be as active as I was previously. He suddenly left one day, and moved away. He returned a year later, and we tried to reconcile. But his girlfriend followed him back, and he cheated on me with her. He left two months later to be with her again.
I trusted this man with my life. I ignored the signs that he was cheating because I never, ever thought he would do that to me. I felt so naive and stupid.
He has been gone almost two years, and our divorce was just finalized. But I have not dated since he left. He has left me very jaded and distrustful. It was an amazingly painful thing to go through - to get sick, have my husband walk out, return, cheat, and walk out again, all while I’m fighting an illness. I am so very lonely. But the fact that I am now unable to trust any potential mate is not fair to anyone I try to date, and I’m afraid of being rejected again due to my health, so I don’t even try to date.
I hope your wife is able to find peace and security in your marriage. You sound like a good man.
ändrew Salter - Seems you need to take some spelling and reading comprehension classes.
The Original EB, I am trying, she won't admit to the things she has done, she denies she does them, she says she believes and trusts me but her actions and words paint a very clear and different picture.
I agree but that doesn’t make abuse ok just because you are jealous
Imagine if this was filmed recently, Debbi would be even more jealous of Phil talking to her man!
As soon as the female host speaks to him, his girlfriend puts her hand on his shoulder in a way as to say he is my property..
Someone Somewhere Willowbooby was proper worried! 😂
You're a complete idiot she asked them both a question and he responds and she comfortably compassionately touches him
Somewhere there's an idiot born every minute
@@liite5848 Nope, watch other interviews too, whenever the other woman talks to him Debbi starts showing discomfort, cutting the interviewer or constantly glaring at both sides, she has ISSUES and need to be treated
Time??
He'll have to take a lie detector test to make sure that he wasn't attracted to Holly
And he'll definitely Fail!
id fail she’s badderz
@@arbontv311 you don’t need a lie detector when you’ve got loose fit boxers on 😂
This dude got such a good heart. She needs to help herself work on her self esteem and insecurities because its going to push away such a great guy
He deserves better
He can’t even make eye contact with Holly and always quickly moving his eyes to the man he just knows he’s going down for that lol
Oh god talk about an abusive relationship :)
Lol you have an ignorant disorder
This is true love.
Right! She is selfish
No this is abusive, this is controlling. A condition doesn't justify her treatment of him!
HandsOffStalker what disorder infatuation is not a disorder
I feel so bad that he's taking all the blame for her behavior. Jealousy is one thing, this is just way beyond that.
Notice when Holly asked a question and made eye contact with him, she felt the need to put her hand on his back... wow
Like Holly would actually go there 😂
This woman is certifiably insane.
Othello syndrome is a new term to me. I recently stumbled across it while looking in to neurological conditions (primarily Parkinson’s which OS seems to have a high co-morbidity rate with). I've now looked more in to Debbi and Steve's story as it's one of the most documented in the public light. Steve is being emotionally abused but I don't think she really means it if the OS diagnosis is correct. However, what is bothering me is that there are clear and sound studies that show effective treatment for OS and yet during every article and interview I've witnessed so far there is no mention of Debbi receiving this treatment. In other coverage of her situation it seems clear that she is abusing the benefit system and I do wonder if she is actively engaging with treatment for this condition and if the DWP are aware of what is really going on. With psychological and neuro conditions there is no "one size fits all" but it appears as though she has made zero effort to seek the appropriate professional help.
What is the treatment for this condition?
Did you watch the video? They're going to therapy and get outside help. And according to the guy have made immense progress.
Yes because if she gets treatment she may have to start looking for work. She's an expert at playing the system. She's getting paid to lie in bed all day being pampered by her poor husband and home helps and carers. The only thing she lifts is a fork or an xbox controller.
David guetta is that u..?
I was thinking the same thing lol
David Guetta’s got a keeper there
Its his british cousin.
David Metha
You could tell she probably told steve to not stare at that woman.
i hope they both find happiness in their lives
aww...:) (you know what me too) (such a lovely comment)
I hope they have a miserable life which leads to self harming
christopher benson how? She’s hooking him up to a lie detector. How do they find happiness if this story excuse for a woman is abusing this sorry excuse for a man? They’re never going to be happy.
He CHOSE her over someone else!? :O I would hate to see that other woman... O.o
It wouldn´t be a pretty sight, no sir...
Raine Perry Well, I doubt if he's fighting 'em off with a big stick. If he had a spine he'd tell her to grow up and be grateful anyone's prepared to out up with her.
The mind boggles ! 😕
They're both at bit odd to be fair.
I feel like she keeps saying how she is the emotional prisioner and she is the one that suffers... I get that, but when a man can't even watch a TV show that has a woman on it or even be near another women he is the one who is suffering not her. Im sure she is suffering in her own way but I just dont think she really understands the impact her actions have on him. I feel bad for him but I don't know who would stay in a Relashionship with someone who is as controlling as her. I think he could do better.
Your ex did better!
Can you imagine what she would do if he left her?
Alex Miller her whole world would break down
as he should.
At least he could outrun her.
He seriously needs to leave. She is like Kathy Bates from Misery.
She'd do a Victorian swoon off a cliff into the ocean
Tell me this isn’t the storyline from monster house ...
If the genders were reverse, the feminists would have a field day with this.
True. Double standards all over the gaff.
Do you even know what any of the words you just wrote mean?
No. Because LOL I TROLL U. Of course I do, you dope.
Ronald Plushkis Actually Othello Syndrome is more common in men, it's rare in women. What we need is a better understanding of the illness (which it is) and no judgement from either sexes.
Charlotte Whiting - I doubt it's rare in women. Women get excused by society for most things they do, so it's probably not recorded as much as with men.
If he was female and she was male this would be considered an abusive relationship and they'd be convincing her to get help. Because the man is being abused it's a funny joke?!
I feel like both of them aren't too good in the head (Debbi and Steven).
It wouldn't matter if she took therapy. Some abusers can and DO go into therapy as a ploy - to make it LOOK like they are actually working on their own behavior, and accepting responsibility for their actions, when, in fact, the real motive is to arm themselves with distortions of the therapist's words and tools, in an effort to heighten and increase the psychological warfare. (that's where she takes feed out of context for her book)The bottom line, is that you can't trust an emotional abuser, the same way you can't trust the married man who is having an affair and keeps promising to leave his wife.
Trying to blame jealousy on a medical issue? Come on.
She has issues, and they aren’t medical. They’re mental.
I think she may actually have some kind of mental disorder..some post traumatic stress symptoms from her previous relationship or cluster B personality type traits related to fears of abandonment
I can't say I blame her...He's a hunk 😨
wiseman 1965 ... stop 😄
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wiseman 1965 Bahahaha 😂🤣😂🤣
😂😂😂
Someone who finds Phil & Holly 'icons' obviously sits at home in front of the TV everyday while the rest of us are at work...
She's completely insecure and absusing this poor man and you can see how he makes up for her behaviour to others..it's so sad to watch honestly.
You obviously did not listen to anything Othello syndrome
People jazz
Way more people have than you think not due to low self-esteem but mainly societies expectations on women
How can she feel beautiful when everybody around her is telling her she’s not and how can you sit there and say that’s abusive if it was he wouldn’t be openly admitting that he’s happy in his relationship he would be saying he is not it’s messed up that everybody else’s opinion really gets in the way of whats actually being said like I don’t understand why is it so bad that you don’t want your significant other to look at another person and that lie detector test he could’ve denied it but he took it willingly you can’t just go and jump into conclusions when he is obviously happy and you’re obviously the insecure one
@@amethyst6526 First of all, if only speaking out about abuse was actually that easy, you absolute nugget,he’s not just gonna admit it on National TV is he, especially not when his abuser is sitting right there and is a great deal bigger than him, poor guy looks terrified the entire time and you think that’s a happy relationship? I pity anyone in a relationship with YOU. Othello Syndrome is also no longer a condition and has in fact been recognised as coercive control and domestic abuse, it’s been a crime since 2015.
Run...dude....run 😂😂
Ellie Lambri he could just walk.....
People that say this is a “delightful” couple hasn’t seen how she treated him when there was a documentary done on them. She treated him like a slave, bashed on him for even looking at Mel B in a newspaper, made him take a weird phone lie detector test to prove he isn’t attracted to other people and treats him so poorly.
I’m a woman and even I can see is that if this was a man doing this to a woman, it would be classed as abuse. Not only mental abuse but coercive control. Who goes through everything including someone’s bank accounts and does not allow their partner to watch tv with a woman on.
It’s utterly disgraceful and just because you have a name for a condition, does not mean that they can use that to abuse their partner. It’s disgraceful.
He needs to leave her, get a haircut then breathe a sigh of relief.
The dude should grow a pair!
She talks about her traumatic past as if she’s the only person who’s ever had one 🙄
No she does not she’s simply explaining YOU FUCKING TOOK IT THAT WAY CUZ YOURE INSECURE AND HAVE TRAUMA YOU HAVENT FIGURED OUT YET…. She explained what happened to her you literally said I AM A VICTIM ME ME ME
@Raina C. Your energies, your energies. Your insecure energies!
@@rainac.2719 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I genuinely feel for them both, they’re actually both lovely, but she needs help, she has so little self esteem and taking it out on him isn’t fair, you can tell he loves her if he’s willing to stay
How is she lovely. She is a controlling horror. If the roles were reversed and it was a man you would not think 'lovely'. Embarrassing comment
"When we're not fighting about this, the relationship is great..." when it's that, my dude? You can't even watch tv, lol
when they are fornicating .. 🤔
if this was a guy being this controlling everybody would be freaking out but because she's a woman people just kinda accept it :\
Ikr, if it was him doing this to her. He'd be called a controlling narcissist.
Double standard at its finest!
Granted, I haven't read through all the comments but I'm a long way down and so far nobody accepts it and most are appalled.
mystic arora I refuse to accept such abhorrent behaviour from a woman.
If you won't accept it from a man, don't accept it from a woman.
This was all over the news and the papers, there were documentaries. Everyone called it abusive, it was by no means accepted.
If this was a man he would be slated to hell
Caroline Hale read the comment section..SHE is getting slated.
Caroline Hale absolutely!
Why would anyone torture themself and be in such a toxic relationship? She need to work on her self and her confidence. In time it will get worst and she will drive him away. She's to controlling and has no boundaries.
Anybody ever thought that this is just an act to get on telly and in the newspapers?
Bobs Uruncle who would want to be on tv
no wonder why her previous marriages didn't work.. she's outta her mind.
I was watching 'Told I Was Too Fat To Work | Supersized Ep.2' which also features Debbi talking about her woes because she is so obese. She mentioned she had Othello syndrome which I googled and found this clip. This lady has some MAJOR issues but I think her husband does too. I can't imagine any other reason he is with her
She probably eats all his food too 😂
Everything today is some kind of "condition". It can't be as simples as sometomes people are just BAT$HIT CRAZY!!!
I know right. Who would know that gaining more knowledge about psychology would make us better at recognizing certain conditions and make us less judgemental and more understanding?
What a travesty!!!
+SYNDICAIDRAMON Also made psychologists over diagnose everyone and allowed us to overly tolerate and justify people like this just being crazy arseholes. It’s all a last ditch attempt to turn us into our own individual snowflakes.
you’re very dumb lmaoo
I’m really good at reading people.
She’s not overcoming her jealousy; merely trying to portray she is. She is cringing with jealousy. She watches him to see where his eyes go.
Sad part is is that he feels he has no other options, so he stays.
Sad situation.
I hope this couple continues to find happiness and get over those struggles.
Moth Girl Struggling to what? Decide who gets the last chicken ball...we all know the answer to that.
Stu Roberts get over trust issues.
bloke looks like Dwight from the Walking Dead.
One thing many people don't seem to understand is,in life you need to also put yourself first. You can't go quenching a fire in someone else's house while yours is on fire. People need to realize that you can lose your mind all in the name of trying to care for someone. What's the use of trying so hard when you'll definitely end up damaging your own mental health. Don't be a therapist to someone who clearly isn't willing to change. Don't end up losing your life and damaging your mental and physical health all in the name of trying to be understanding in a situation that clearly isn't worth it.
I hope Steve is okay today.
Wow she is extremely jealous. If I was with someone this controlling, insecure, jealous. I'd leave before they hooked me.
I wonder if they’re still together 🥲
Ummm I don’t really think she has to worry
Lol shush dont be mean haha made me laugh though thanks
Please do a update on this delightful couple 😊😊
Delightful?! O.o
wAT dA fAWk
Steve looks like he should playing Bass in a Grindcore Band
Screw the behavior problem. The looks problem alone is enough for any decent man to run, run, run as faraway as possible.
Lol
I think it's called overweight insecure gf syndrome. If you can't handle a skinny bf then stay in your lane... He won't stay no matter how much he wishes he can.
Fake!!
It sounds like she is saying Satan in the beginning.
I think it bs too.
Deborah Bergen May I ask what you mean by fake ? Is it a fake story or is it a fake disorder/syndrome ???
Why would you ask???
To be honest...I couldn't watch the whole thing.
It really bothered me for some odd reason.. I was talking more about the show I think!
Maybe they are trying to help! I hope so.
I just want to say that from the perspective of someone who has dealt with something akin to being with someone with a porn problem like she describes, and what it had turned me into and I still struggle with to this day, it is NOT unreasonable for someone to be so paranoid and jealous. I consider myself a rational person but when someone abuses your trust and lies to you and hides intimate secrets from you and then gaslights you or tries to, telling you you are crazy when you KNOW you arent then you start getting fed up with it REAL fast. Okay? I went through a time when every single thing my significant other did would set off alarms. Whenever an attractive female walked by, I noticed him subtly turn his head toward her while trying to mask it by pretending he was scratching his head or something and that in an of itself would not have bothered me so much if he wasnt trying to hide it. Cheating can be classified in a number of ways, not just physical sex with someone else. If you knowingly do something that you know would hurt your significant other if they found out over and over again and then deny it when youve been caught - that is cheating. All the self denial in the world wont change that. And as for these two - she was not recovered from her past experience with this and he... well - he probably kinda likes it the way she goes nuts over him because I wouldnt call him the most attractive guy and maybe he himself has previous experience being with someone who didnt care so he might like the attention. Who knows?? Point is - this sort of thing is easy to judge from afar but you really don't know the first thing about it if thats how you see it.
When someone abuses your trust, it is terrible. But behaving this way is not justified. You either have to move on or find a healthy way to rebuild trust. This behavior is abusive and toxic to the core
Men would dodge a bullet by evading a relationship with you.
“Othello Syndrome” 😂😂😂
It like the movie back on cartoon network 2000 and 2003 (it was a house but the house was the wife who pass away)
If he got a haircut, he would look better 😶
But he's a good guy none the less 🙂
What an absolute monster
His face remember me David guetta 😂
Ferdi he reminds me of Smeagol / Gollum
I don't think either of them need be jealous... i doubt anyone here is going to be chasing after either of them!! fucking hell.
Literally hahahahaha
I don't want to come across as cruel and ignorant or whatever other name people have to give people these days but if I was in this guys situation I would leave the relationship.
This isn't a life I would wish to live. It's not healthy, there is no trust, you are being controlled, you can't interact with other people without living in fear of being emotionally abused for talking to people that are considered more attractive.
It may be selfish but you only have one life and if the person you choose to spend your life with is causing you this much misery and no freedom then you need to be selfish. People like this woman need to help themselves before they add someone else into the mix and make their lives just as miserable as their own.
Awww, I look at his face and I feel so sorry for him. His self worth must be so low to put up with this.
she needs to be on her own to work through her issues instead of subjecting this man to them
What the hell is wrong with people unnecessarily bringing up the way she looks and her size, there is no need to crush a persons confidence and make them feel shit 😒
jess waldron BAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA. Hang on nobby, she's confident as balls when it comes to bullying this poor sap.
she had a stroke? look at her lips
True i wonder if something happened to her after this
More like Bell's Palsy.
rizz10toke think shes just fat
rizz10toke it’s called morbid obesity.
Raskolnikov1337 it's called fat.
as soon as she opens her mouth and talk with with tinted lip and annoying voice , world becomes a dark place
My mum had a take a break magazine. And I thought bloody hell
So she's so scared of someone hurting her she's hurting him instead.
If a guy did this it would be seen as abusive 😒
Great they made some positiv steps together! :-)
I think she didn‘t yet overcome her problems. People tend to ponit more on others when they feel depressed about themselves. It‘s sort of an assumingly easier way to make oneself feel better for an instant.
Maybe it‘s the failure of her past relationship - also maybe the alcohol issue or something else in her live - she didn‘t yet find a way to deal with... (usually it’s a sum of several things)
Controling every step of her new fiance - who really seems to be loving and loyal - can‘t be the right strategy to prevent loss from happening again, though... I suggest that she learns to accept that you can‘t „imprison“ people, and that they can always leave you.. But as there are people who leave, there will be new ones to come.
Yes, she is obese and she doesn‘t look like she is doing her body much good... I am sure a healthy diet and some exercise would help her to get calmer and even apreciate herself more... As for the beauty: Outer beauty matters as well! I don‘t mean botox-lips an „perfect skin“ ... but an appearances which signals that a person is healthy and feels generally well. I think one can see at first sight, that she feels bad about herself....
They reminded me so much of the movie Monster House 🤣
poo rhai yessss haha
Aww he is so lovely
Be carful she might see your comment 😂😂
@@najat2486 hahahahaha
This is such bull. That’s so wrong how controlling she is and everything is just having a laugh and calling it an illness.
So what if this was the other way round ?. Because if it was a man being abusive like this, it wouldn’t be accepted at all.
This woman needs serious help. She is obviously very insecure about herself and needs help.
Best love story I have ever seen lol
because she's such a beast
Hormones can cause paranoia and therefore jealousy. Many PMDD sufferers struggle with it (premenstrual dysphoric disorder)
It shows on her face 👀 He seems to have a great well-adjusted personality, and went OTT in his description of the first date to please her.
Her face is like a crisp packet on a bonfire.
hahaha! omg 😂 true tho
Are these two still together?
Mother of god! she is Debbie Wolowitz
😂😂😋😂😂 this comment is so underrated!
He needs to get away from her bless him.
Oh no, life is too short for that shit. I highly doubt she is as recovered as she claims. She talks about her traumatic relationship and her imprisonment but not how her abusive and controlling behaviour effects him.
I respect him
Scary I had a friend that did this to her boyfriend and he left her as soon as possible
what a weird looking couple. she scares me.
ARE THEY TOGETHER NOW? been trying to find info but can't find ANYTHING on either of them in 2024 I'm very curious as this was ten years ago hmm. Debbie will be in her early 50s now Steve about 40. Someone help plz thanks ❤
she's controlling. he's obedient. too much.
she got problemS. with big S. not just about jealousy
Run Steve, run.
Such a great guy and a lovely lady. Hope they can get thru this and embrace a brightet future. Wish they would rather surrender their relationship om God and see the change!
watch her on those obesity documentary. you will change your mind about her being sweet.
Well said😁
8:25
>"I can't believe my husband had a porn addiction!"
>Has chips for breakfast
She's so insecure
LMFAO 😃😃😃😃😃
Who be jealous of I'm doing a runner 😂😂😂
i understand jealousy to a degree , i struggled with lack of trust and jealousy in the past due to my partner at the time cheating and having an online sex addiction , so many lies and so much hurt . but if your at a point where your current partner hasn’t given you any reason to think they are being unfaithful and you are becoming jealous and severely controlling either way you should not be in a relationship . there’s a difference between needing to build trust and work on your jealousy issues and trying to normalise and justify emotional abuse and control .
Syndrome or no syndrome, you are responsible for your behaviour. The cycle breaks when you start taking accountability for your life and stop using your diagnosis as a crutch.
Why do people feel like its ok to put down another person. That's what's wrong with this world everyone likes to make fun of how people look how they dress or how they act. Stop being so damn shallow.
Kryscynthia Silguero this woman is crazy! Of course we’re going to judge her. She hooks him up to a lie detector......😳
I agree to a point. I couldn’t care less what someone looks like / dresses like. But she is leeching off of tax payer money while complaining about it , literally treats her spouse like a personal slave , has severe issues with jealousy & seems to be an overall nasty unpleasant person. That’s what I’m judging her on .
Kryscynthia Silguero you look quite like her to be honest 🙂
This shit is normal for dating a latina
isemajic97 lmaooooo..