What I Check When Buying a Used Excavator: Will this old Log Mover Pass Inspection?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- In this episode, I dive deep into the inspection process of two old excavators with log grapples, previously used at a port for loading logs onto ships. These machines, though outdated, could be perfect for selectively and sustainably harvesting trees from my forest.
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Hi Marty after watching this video I have been talking to someone who works in the Picton log yard. He said that machine wouldn't move and when they had to shift it they picked it with the Cat 988. Just as well you waked away from it. They think they both went to the same wreaker yard.
Thanks for that.. I did wonder about that machine in Picton. It seemed sus that they boxed it in so it couldn't be properly tested.. Can you find out where they ended up? I think I could make a good machine from both
@@MartyT As far as they know they think it's Canterbury
It was sat by the side of the haul road for ages, looking sorry for itself on in the port! Driven past it many times to get down to the wharf for work!
The regret of a lost auction is always easier to stomach than winning a money pit.
Exactly.
@@tristanpatterson3843 some things like this have increased a lot in cost just because of inflation. I did a comparison of 2019 to current US dollar 23% inflation. 15k then would cost almost 18.5k today.
Can’t see myself ever buying an excavator. But happy to have helpful assessment tips. Thanks Marty.
He has the second most understanding wife, the first one is mine 😂
How many people buy a major headache because they cannot equate the real value and wished they had "walked" after the fact. Marty is the epitome of value to "me" thinking regardless of desire!!!!
I have no doubt Marty the machine that meets your specifications will materialize. Your patience and attention to detail will reward you with a better machine than the last two you examined.
Probablyy hidden away deep in a forest waiting for Marty to pass by🤣
Imagine the wasp nests you could piss off with that grapple & enclosed cab.
I love how the guy selling it says it's been serviced every 250 hours and then immediately says he doesn't know the hours
After having been re-engined, and with the hour meter not working, it's not surprising he didn't know the total hours.
He does claim to know the company's plant maintenance policy though, which is how he can claim to know its service history.
Run it for 10hrs a day, maintenance scheduled every 6 weeks. At least that's typical where I have seen.
I agree with what you're saying mate, does seem a bit sketchy. However maybe they were logging the hours off of work hours for operator shifts? Either way whenever questions like that arise, it's always good to avoid it. Unless you're getting a great deal on it and don't plan on using it a whole lot.
@@ESPSJ Oh its definitely sketch.
He mentioned that the hour meter had been replaced.
You can still service it off the hour meter and not know the total hours.
No doubt about old diesel engines Marty, they can sit idle for years, as long as you keep the weather out, they'll usually fire up right away with a good battery. Good to see you are a "thrifty" chap and don't toss your cash around.
Hi Marty. I’m always impressed when you say you’ve been looking for a certain machine for a few years. You definitely play the long game and play it very well. As someone who has made a few impulse purchases in the past I’m taking careful note 😊
Be careful old habits die hard
I've always been successful at finding the perfect "thing" by being patient. Sometimes waiting a couple years. Understandable some things cannot wait but when something I've been watching hits the right price mark or is a steal, I know it is the right time.
My 13 year old son absolutely loves your videos, you are doing the stuff of his dreams. We have some old machinery here that would be fit for your videos haha including a Hitachi UH033 that has a motorboke fuel tank. Hes also stoked because we are in NZ too. Thanks!
You’re killing it Marty!!! You should be really proud of this channel- been watching for years! Thanks for the videos man!
Thanks mate, appreciate it
Who'd have guessed this channel would be pushing half a million subscribers and 150 million views? It totally says something about the quality of the videos, and innovative nature of Marty's projects. I bet the washing machine generator has inspired a _lot_ of similar projects. Especially the follow up video about the electronics. Even the recent video on improving access was solid gold. When you look at the utter shite some of the super-successful CZcams channels are based on (I am cringing just thinking about some of that content) it makes us think how very much Marty deserves the success he has had.
I’ve been watching since the video of the Ram charging his biker friend. was that around 2019?
@@wintersun398 Probably more like 2013
Wants…needs a Grapple = buy and Excavator that has a grapple
Love the way Marty thinks
I also tend to do that with my small tractors:need new attachment, buy tractor with the needed attachment.
Then you don't need to change attachments, just change tractor😉
Even if they worked in a port, loading logs from trucks to ships and won't drive far at all, I would suggest to check the lower rollers also for wear and tear. You will want to rely on them working in your forest, replacing them could be expensive and lots of work...
Thanks for taking us with you on equipment shopping!
😉👍👍
Great to see you again and thanks for sharing your experience great video mate thanks again and hope you’re doing well.
yeah Marty interesting video. My mechanic always harps on about checking the final drive oil when sussing diggers . Found one with no oil on one side. Good luck with the hunt, wouldnt mind a rotating grapple myself. Log market a bit sick at the moment, though.
Thanks for the visit to the pre-auction look around!!!
Even though I don't know anything about the machines you present in your uploads, you're the only channel I have used the notification bell for. Always a pleasure. Thanks again.
Getting ready for harvest. Good luck.
As soon as you said Picton I was so hoping for a short clip of the place. Fell in love with Picton and hope to return one day.😊
Founded out what I missed in the past...came on to it..a new video of MrT ..so here I am
That was an awesome video, on what to look for in a used machine. And never go by what it says on the website, but visit it yourself, test it before buying it. I can't believe they went so high on the bid. But I am sure you will find one maybe in the woods 🤔
I can't wait to see what adventures you get into next. 😊
Marty wears many caps, but forestry was not one I was expecting (until the previous episode) I reckon he still has a couple of years before he need a machine with a log grapple to start pulling his trees. Pity about the access to the last one, but wise to step away when you consider the limited access.
If my memory serves me well, some of Marty's very early videos were almost exclusively of forestry operations.
@@unclegreybeard3969 I have watched many of his early videos (from about ten years ago). I was referring to him planting 14,000 trees and pruning them up to 7 meters, on his land 24 years ago. That was a good while before he started CZcams. That part of his forestry activities were mentioned in his previous video from a few days ago, where he built a better ATV trail.
I wish Mr. Marty would put out more videos. Like once a week. Enjoy watching his skills and the narration is top notch.
Every time I see these videos from Marty I realize he must have the most understanding wife or bring home flowers every day :)
Oh well.. maybe it was meant to be.. smart choice Marty!
Been awhile...love to get caught up! Greetings again from NYC, Marty and fam! The kids must be huuuge!
When buying old buses in New Zealand near the 2000s era *check it hasn't been rebodied and the chassis/engine isn't 40 year old unit on a younger body* . A simple fleetlist check will show this, please check!
Dear Marty T.
👍👌👏 2) A new used device means some videos about it = good luck finding the right excavator. 3) Hope that you can fabricate a wood splitter to be used with this kind of machine.
Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health in particular.
I like your ATTITUDE , IF you cannot establish that it's WORTH it's money do not bother risking it.
Thanks for the ins & outs of the inspections.
Marty you should have lit up a cigar while driving it! :)
Absolutely love your channel man keep it up. I’ve been thinking about making a channel of my own. I’ve got a few motorcycles over the past couple months and then I would love to do rebuld videos on. Not to mention a couple tractors that could use some work that I could record. If I do, this channel would definitely be the main thing that motivated me I’ve watched everyone in your videos
A lot of money since you had the possibility of buying trouble. Jim Bell (Australia)
You guys need a Richie Bros equipment auction. Good luck shopping!
Excellent video Marty T :) I hope one look for also good Mattinne up and bet you find too one want in prices range!
This is where all your years of repair and rebuild experience really pays off.👍
I know I'm late commenting but a few more things to check when buying a used machine is have someone set the stick down and put just enough pressure on it like you are going to lift the tracks up and then release the pressure you can tell how much play is in the pins and the rotec bearing as well also swing side to at the same time. Tracks don't really wear out like dozer tracks most of the wear will be from the pads being twisted running over stuff.
Yes, they both failed the test before I got that far
I also looked at buying one of these, getting a machine of this age and condition of about this size is very difficult now, so many people with farms and big lifestyle blocks want them. Similar but more tidy examples of this size/age go for around 30 - 40k and that is just with one or two buckets, no grapple. I didn't bid in the end, but probably should have.
If the travel motors have unequal power it’s often the seals in the rotary manifold,difficult to access but not as expensive as replacing a track motor
With the price Bunnings are charging for pieces of pine you could drop a couple of trees to cover the cost a two brand new travel motors. I bet the second one didn't come with a nice array of buckets for the machine. Hope you can find something suitable and at a reasonable price Marty *plus* all the attachments you could ever dream of. 👍
Always a good morning here on the west coast of CA, drinking my coffee and watching Marty look of a new machine. There is one waiting just down the track and we can't wait until you find it!
Always a good time with Marty T
Thank you for the interesting video.
I'm guessing the chief attraction for Marty would be the lg attachment, which would be an expensive item in itself. Shame the track motor let it down
Great video bro they got good prices for them I am picking. There will be one out there with your name on it for sure it's a matter of waiting for it to come up. Safe travels. Ken.
I watch a site on You Tube called C & C Equipment in Indiana USA all the time. They repair BIG equipment like Bull dozers & Excavators, used Military equipment etc. When I saw the 9000 price for that old piece, I thought it was too high. The real cost of fixing that stuff (if you can still get parts) is outrageous. I think you are lucky to not own either of those, especially if they have been near water their entire lives.
FYI $20k NZD is less than $12k USD Diesel Creek or Scrappy Industries would've snapped it up.
Both were better than the pictures looked. It's tough to pass up a machine that seems relatively well maintained. That first one sure came with a lot of buckets. It looked like there was a lot of activity on the auction. Best wishes and I hope you find one to your liking because I love to see you working on them. Good luck finding your machine and best wishes.
I thought you were crazy for looking at these. Then I saw the undercarriage and heard them fire!
I'd be worried about the leak in the slew motor though.
The first machine looked better. More leaks byt seemed better maintained. But I think $18k is high for an old machine.
I wonder if whoever won those auctions personally inspected the excavators, and if they, how thoroughly? I suspect not as thoroughly as you did. More fool them. Those prices were higher than I expected - they appeared to have good engines and decent hydraulics, but that dented cylinder rod could be a problem, and the undercarriages did not look super flash. That was a lot of rust on the Picton one. I thought I heard Waikawa mentioned, but I am wondering if it was at Shakespeare Bay, seeing as that's were most of the logs go out. If you went by SH62 rather than QCD, you'd have almost passed by my house at the top of Hammerichs in Rapaura. You should drop in for a cuppa if you pass that way again, and I'll show you my workshop (wood).
The one that got away was HUGE, cheers
Learn something new every day cheers Marty 🍻
194 views in only 3 minutes !! Dang Marty !! 👍
What a beast, I mean look at the steal guards on the window. This guy is ready for trip to Jurassic Park 😊
That is a great idea to check it out before you buy it for your help at your house Marty
I’m glad you know what you’re looking at when checking these things. I wouldn’t have a clue 😂
Both of those looked pretty much like sink holes for money. I know the grapples were desirable, but buying those rusty, oily machines to get them just doesn't make sense. I'm sure you'll do better. Enjoyed your thinking about this, Marty. Thanks.
My limited experience in pricing used excavators is that there are no bargains to be had. I’ve seen bigger units go very reasonably at auction but that was years ago. Good luck in your quest!
What Marty, you're looking at a machine that's not mired in a swamp? Starts right up. Moving up in the world aren't we?
Marty is looking to "Return on Investment"
as within the next few years all those pines he planted reach maturity...
and if Marty is the one hoicking them out of his forest that is a major expense cut to the bone...
plus he won't destroy either his tracks or other trees as "collateral damage" by a commercial tree harvesting crew working under time pressures....
You'll find the right machine, it pays to wait things out. I do the same... Good luck my friend.
Marty, my last JCB 7c was £600.00 in 1991 lol just for moving cars but was a beast lol
Really enjoyed the video. They are quite pricey even when very old. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Great tips as usual, I'd also check cab rotating sprocket & drive.
Congratulations on the soon to be 1/2 million subscribers!
Center joint seals can make them track to one side
Marty, Sorry you weren’t able to get one this time. Hope you come across one you like at the right price!
It's always good to see your videos Marty always good
Damn Marty, sorry you lost out on those 2 machines, I too can see those machines going for that high of a price, with all the many Who know What Hours, miles, and rust all over them. I think theirs a good reason you didnt get those. Theres something better for you in the future. Well good luck and happy hunting on your future machine to your beautiful collection. Be safe out there❤
remember those are NZD, not USD: 21k on NZD =12k USD
Neither had been tracked far, plates looked good as did for wear, but Hydraulics/valves/motors and seals get tired.
Tough call, but wise one.. really going for that money...!
Can you find a grab ta fit one of the machines you own, it that an option..?
Yes I could but my old hitachi is quite worn out, some parts are impossible to find. I don't think it would be up to logging 100 acres.
@@MartyT Fair play, was just considering the options, only you know too well where you're at, will no doubt see where that leads.
Cheers for reply, all the best. Davey
Some people say "it's not worth it" to many things - but it all comes down to price and what you can do to fix or improve it. Skills and knowledge can turn a pile of scrap into something sought after. with a value way in excess of the initial price.
Where in NZ do you live? We visited twice and the South Island is the most beautiful place in the world. Flew down to Milford. Sounds and took a tour boat. Magnificent. North island is also beautiful. My daughter’s family lived just outside of Auckland for 5 years.
Marty is in the Marlborough area very near the Marlborough Sounds, top right of the South Island
Great video, thanks! Really enjoy watching your 'process'.
Thx for the vid. Marty.
Excellent content
Really interesting video thanks.
That first fella said they climb well, he’s got no idea how well they’ll need climb at Marty’s place 😊, bit of a shame really I didn’t think that was to dear for the overall condition in NZ dollars with the forestry guards, buckets and attachments, maybe could have sold the big Ex to offset the price to have the two smaller machines in the fleet
Hope you find one mate.
Thanks for posting Marty
keep an eye out for the grapple on sale platforms.not many people need a grapple.or maybe put a wanted add out there
big machines can be such a pain to maintain - high costs, hidden costs, tough to find parts etc etc - they are practically giving them away and it is no wonder
THANKS FROM AUSTRALIA
In situations like this many buyers just "react" and then regret their purchase later vs giving an educated "response." Good choice Marty.
Bummer kinda, I was hoping Marty was going to win the bid and we'd get to watch him getting one of those Ho's ready to get them top shape ready to move logs on his mountain homestead.
The Old Rusty Hardworking Machines cry out for Marty to buy them! ❤
All the way from Australia I can hear your Mrs saying ffs Marty what do you need this for? where are you guna put it.
I imagine that some of these machines used in non-traditional specialty jobs could have a ridiculous amount of wear on the boom or rotating assembly while having little to no wear on their crawling assembly
How's tricks Marty, could you have made a cheeky offer on the grab for logs? Nice videos you know your stuff. Keep searching something sweet will turn up
Thanks Marty. Another interesting video.
I've had my share of auction successes and regrets. Luckily mine are very small potatoes compared to the cost of an excavator. All you can do is your due diligence to make an informed decision.
i have been looking for an excavator for almost a year and what I have learned is never buy something from the mining or forestry industry
Sounds like and is good advice.
You're a wise shopper. 👍👍👍
First one was a better unit in my opinion. The final drive fix is a bit of a job but one guy can do it fine. The price to fix would of put you up there however. The engine sounded super. Lot's of rust on both and i would keep away from the ports if possible. Thanks
Always informative. Good luck
Nice insight Marty
there are always people that bid way too high for equipment and vehicles.. its pretty old and worn .. if they're getting rid of it then they feel its no longer useful for them so you have to keep that in mind.
I agree.. This was a $1 starting auction, this draws a lot of people in, some of them may not realize the cost of having to replace or recondition a travel motor.
I used to work on heavy equipment & from what I can see it has been well used but not abused. For a girl that old I'd say she still has a life to live for the person who is willing togive her a chance. That being said, I don't know her complete history so expect some small surprised down the road. I believe investing in anolog equipment is a good thing since modern equipment needs electronic chips & they are getting hard to come by, look at all the Ford trucks just sitting waiting for chips before they can be sold.
Don't forget also that your need for buying one of these is likely temporary - once you have logged out your land and don't need it anymore then you can just sell it off and if it's still in good shape possibly break even.
@Marty T what’s the economic dollar difference for you to contract out the whole harvest by a contractor verses you buying the snigger,loader with the grapple and trucking it to the mill.Beside that as a stand alone option you could just sell it to the mill and they have to harvest it,less profit but you don’t have machines sitting for 25 years for next harvest.Just a thought.Is this viable???
Yep there is a lot to weigh up.. at this stage it looks like the best option for my small stand is to selectively harvest and sell by the truckload while still retaining the carbon credits.. This might change in the next few years depending on what direction the government steers the NZETS scheme
@@MartyT perhaps the better option,I apologise for sticking my nose in your business.
Around Canada. Big machines go for cheap. It's the mini excavators that get big near new money???? I thing both were a good deal however the first also had the buckets.
Yeah, the rule of the thumb in Canada is the bigger the machine, the cheaper. Everyone can use a little machine. Few people want a bigger one, and downtime is scarier than cost, so anyone who needs a big one....needs a big one that doesn't break down.
Who else in NZ is bidding against you Marty? Don't they know you are a CZcams treasure. How very dare they! 🤣
They should know better 😂
thanks marty
Boa noite Marty muito ótimo esse servico maquina meu amigo