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How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage. As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus. (There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths" I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan". The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann" I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
An Alternative possibility: How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage. As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus. (There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths" I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan". The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann" I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
I am 71 now and spent my life in Aerospace Engineering. To me, in my opinion. They knew far more than we think because, they buried the Torq's on separate levels. That to me indicates they knew about what we today call, dissimilar metal corrosion and took care to separate them on different levels to avoid corrosion. It also makes me think, that they were not being discarded because as you would only do that to preserve them for future use. So they were recoverable for the precious metals or maybe some type of ritual use. I do love these video's by the way lol.
I agree. There is a ongoing tradition among tribes worldwide of ceremonial burial of their most treasured items before going to a very hard battle from which they may not return. My belief is these torque represent each family and tribe that is gathered at that spot as an army. The burial is both ceremonial and preservative. They did not make it back to retrieve the items.
She may have ultimately been defeated but she is one of the very few to stand up to the Romans and although it may have cost her tribe dearly, although we cannot be sure, she is the embodiment of the saying that it is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, all hail the queen ❤️
Why did the Britons, Romans, and various peoples of the ancient world harm non-combatants (unarmed women and children) back then? It seems wrong to me to harm and kill on-combatants no matter who they are. So why did Boudicca and the Britons go after Roman women and children instead of just sending them packing back to Rome, their actions don’t make them any different or better than the Roman army.
@@jmwilliamsartancient times were brutal and no side was innocent of this brutality read up on more history. Not pleasant but that’s the way it was for centuries until relatively recently where brutality is more obfuscated.
@@jmwilliamsart.... methodology. Those that are of foreign influence, origin and hostility to the established Britons were perceived as a threat of not just their way of life through betrayal and brutality, but ultimately, annhialation. So it was that, which was thus meted out to them. However, ironically, it eventually brought the Iceni down. But such a moral code of only attacking combatants is a modern warfare game.
Oh yes it's all very neat and PC to pretend there was equality of brutality, no nation WORSE than any other, but GOOD LUCK trying to make that cutesy-wootsy belief correspond to the real world in the case of Boudicca's GHASTLY atrocities against the civilians of Londinium, good luck trying to find these "Romans and various people of the outside world" cutting off women's breasts and shoving them in their mouths (as Boudicca's "army" did), without going all the way to the Armenian Holocaust in World War 1.
I cast no aspersions anywhere else, but as a long-time (20+ years) fan of Time Team, this is my favorite production from Time Team Official yet. Great job. Encore encore!
I remember watching this episode when it was new. It inspired me to try working with copper wire bought at the local hardware store. Since then I've learned lots of metal working to make jewelry. Only for myself, but it's enormously satisfying. I even like keeping the copper polished.
For me; Philip Harding and Francis Pryor. With Guy de la Bedoyere bringing up the Roman rear-guard. Pryor and Harding are "Deep History" expert professionals. If not for 'Black-Adder' Baldric would be no-where to be seen. Though he is a lovely-horrid-funny little man; bless him and his infuriating trench-hopping.
@@KernowekTim I agree although Sir Tony met Mick on a dig in Greece I believe so had an amateur interest...which is good, he made the archaeologists accountable! I love Francis for his undying enthusiasm
I like the time team program wery mutch with Tony Robinson and the rest of the original crew more. When you have follow a program 20 years its hard to just forgett the show with the old crew.
It is so wonderful watching all of you digging up history for us!! I have always loved anything on Boudica and their history! Thank you so very much for delving into this more for us!!👏👏👏💯💯💯🙏💖🪶💞✨️💜
I used to work with precious metals - silver and gold. I think there is a mistake in the explanation for the gold-rich surface of the torques. I believe the surface layer was enriched by repeated heating and "pickling", that is heated to oxidise the copper in the outer surface, then placed in an acid bath of some kind to dissolve away the copper oxide. This process has been used for centuries and I'm pretty sure it was discovered millennia ago.
Just magical. History of our Isles is simply amazing. Educational narrative with Sir TR deploying his incredible, colourful and mesmerising storytelling. Thank Q ❤
I wonder how many people of British descent are descended from the Iceni tribe. I know there is no way to know, but sometimes I wonder what clans my ancestors were in. Where were my ancient British ancestors when all this was going down? Did they fight? On which side? Did the warriors survive the battle or just their children?
It would be interesting to know if DNA studies have been done on any of the Iceni skeletal remains. They could check for Y-DNA and mtDNA, which would give clues to such questions. 25 years ago, the DNA tech was unavailable. Maybe Google around to see if any studies have been done.
There is rarely a mention of the huge hill fort north of Thetford, attributed to the Iceni. The excavation was led by Tony Gregory in the 1980s and must have been a key area after the defeat of Boudicca
Saw this so many years ago. Now, re-edited, reshown. I'll rewatch. This was some of the best television a quarter century ago. And how about all the "farm" videos? I may just troll the past. Of course, I'm heading for my mid-seventies. No longer excited by anything new.
🇬🇧 I believe that the battle where Boudica was ambushed was not at Mancetta but just off the Foss way somewhere near Leamington Spa. Also, Hill top restaurant near Leamington Spa is surely a Roman troops lookout. It has views all around and is just off the Foss Way.
For anyone planning to visit Venta Icenorum there's also on the southern outskirts of Norwich some other places of interest: Whitlingham, now a country park, its flint mines date back to around 4000 BC. The area was known for flint-knapping, a process where flint stones were shaped into tools and weapons. Arminghall Woodhenge, a Neolithic ring of wood posts, the remains of which are underground or have been excavated recently, the site radiocarbon date is 3650-2650 Cal BC (4440±150).
Glad Francis Pryor said that . I don’t think it’s a case of Rome ostracising the iceni more a case of the iceni turning their back on Roman ways , they didn’t need that Roman market town they’d got their own
I've always rather wondered where the gold came from that they made the jewelry from. Who taught them to work it? Always great to see these, I've loved watching the Time Team first finding it during covid and now as a patron of their comeback.
Venta Icenorum was what was known as a "civitas." It was built as a "capitol" of sorts for a particular tribe that had territory in the Roman Empire. So it was built to be a Iceni capitol city.
I’m going to argue the torcs were broken once the owner died. They didn’t want to be buried with them because they feared someone would come along and despoil the grave, take the torc and claim the authority of the previous owner. This way the power was broken, and no one could claim that power for their own. My hapenny’orth anyways 😃
So.... Anyone tell me when and more interestingly why? Beau-de-see-ah became Boo-di'k-a'. I know it happened, but why? Do we think we now know more about how they spoke? Or....?
It still remains a great mystery to this day the actual site of the last battle that the Iceni and other tribes took on the Roman legions. Somewhere there must be evidence of this.
the Icini had all the right to rebel and the fact that horrible assault on Boudica and her dauthers was narrated by a roman historian makes it believable because it comes from the perpetrator. that's why I hate conquerors and don't understand people fascination with them.
I chanced on this when CZcams threw it up on my Home page. The funny thing is that only the other day I wondered what had happened to this show. Interesting because a) I'd never seen it before and b) I don't really have any memory of filming the scenes with Tony at Castor St Edumnds or Colchester (which must have been in 2010). What I mostly remember is breaking my toe on the bed in the hotel at Colchester because it was only about 6 inches narrower than the room I was in, and that the motorcycle I had driven down on had a defective rectifier which had flattened the battery. The content of the show I had totally forgotten.
It's a shame that even after all this time we've never really found solid proof of whatever really happened to her body. The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps she was cremated. However even for someone as revered as she was it's almost hard to imagine that they would have even allowed a cremation to occur if anything I would imagine that her body would have been venerated. So still fingers crossed for the day that perhaps sometime in the future her body or traces of a burial for her is finally found.
Brilliant, great episode. Celtic/Briton Britain and Ireland will always be the most interesting history of the British Isles. If there are more episodes from this period that haven't been uploaded before would love to see them. I would love to know more about the period of Celtic Britain between the Romans leaving and the Anglo-Saxons arriving. Is there a Box set of Time Team that we can buy somewhere or even a digital boxset of all the old episodes?
Personally I believe the reason the torc are damage is because you wouldn't want anyone else to use, if only high status people wear these object they wouldn't want anyone else wearing it that's for sure.
Guy may like to look upon the stagnation of Venta Icenorum as the Romans holding back from the Icenii but I think there is more to Francis' suggestion, that the Icenii, defeated in battle & their population devastated, were still proud enough to reject complete Romanisation, & that the vast majority of those who survived & came after them thrived in their traditional settlements as they had before the Romans invaded Britannia. Of course there are some who would have succumbed to the newest Roman fashions but the large number of round houses within the town walls show that even many of those who had to live within the town did not care for the Roman way of life.
I had a thought about there being parts of the torqs buried... is there any chance that the Iceni, when forced to give over their weapons, melted down their gold to make weapons to fight the Romans? It was just a thought.
No mention of the defeat of the Ninth Legion. And we were shown geophys images of a townscape packed with features - what happened to all that? Could the Snettisham Hoard indicate a deliberate self-destruction of the tribe's leadership? You would have thought that an obvious question for the Team.
That’s how scholars and scientists talk. There’s always a possibility that future research may change the way the evidence is evaluated. Several examples of that are mentioned in the episode, where what was thought in the past had to be changed, in light of new discoveries and analyses. Therefore, definite statements are avoided. It’s not speculation as much as careful consideration. As always, “as far as we can know now” is assumed.
Boudicca shmoodica. Caradoc was the real hero of the resistance with the Silures tribe. Ten years before he was captured and they fought on for another twenty. Not a three week strop like shmoodica.
Google maps satellite picture shows the field (SW of Caistor St Edmund) with the grid lines of Venta Icenorum visible on the ground (And no, I don't believe St Edmund was named after Edmund Blackadder.).
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The closed captioning is done by AI -- tell the robots
@@aairsick We apologise again for the fault in the
subtitles. Those responsible for sacking
the people who have just been sacked,
have been sacked.
@@future_me_6067 Off with there heads...
How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage.
As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus.
(There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths"
I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan".
The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann"
I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
An Alternative possibility:
How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage.
As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus.
(There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths"
I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan".
The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann"
I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
I am 71 now and spent my life in Aerospace Engineering. To me, in my opinion. They knew far more than we think because, they buried the Torq's on separate levels. That to me indicates they knew about what we today call, dissimilar metal corrosion and took care to separate them on different levels to avoid corrosion. It also makes me think, that they were not being discarded because as you would only do that to preserve them for future use. So they were recoverable for the precious metals or maybe some type of ritual use. I do love these video's by the way lol.
I agree
I agree. There is a ongoing tradition among tribes worldwide of ceremonial burial of their most treasured items before going to a very hard battle from which they may not return.
My belief is these torque represent each family and tribe that is gathered at that spot as an army.
The burial is both ceremonial and preservative.
They did not make it back to retrieve the items.
Intetesting insight
TT on Sunday evening, just like the old days
Feels right, doesn’t it.
@@ledacedar6253it does indeed!
Aaaand relax 🫖 ☕️
😄
Boudica has always fascinated me. I so appreciate this special. I hope that over time we will be able to learn even more about her nd her people.
She may have ultimately been defeated but she is one of the very few to stand up to the Romans and although it may have cost her tribe dearly, although we cannot be sure, she is the embodiment of the saying that it is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, all hail the queen ❤️
Why did the Britons, Romans, and various peoples of the ancient world harm non-combatants (unarmed women and children) back then? It seems wrong to me to harm and kill on-combatants no matter who they are. So why did Boudicca and the Britons go after Roman women and children instead of just sending them packing back to Rome, their actions don’t make them any different or better than the Roman army.
@@jmwilliamsartancient times were brutal and no side was innocent of this brutality read up on more history. Not pleasant but that’s the way it was for centuries until relatively recently where brutality is more obfuscated.
@@jmwilliamsart.... methodology. Those that are of foreign influence, origin and hostility to the established Britons were perceived as a threat of not just their way of life through betrayal and brutality, but ultimately, annhialation. So it was that, which was thus meted out to them. However, ironically, it eventually brought the Iceni down.
But such a moral code of only attacking combatants is a modern warfare game.
Oh yes it's all very neat and PC to pretend there was equality of brutality, no nation WORSE than any other, but GOOD LUCK trying to make that cutesy-wootsy belief correspond to the real world in the case of Boudicca's GHASTLY atrocities against the civilians of Londinium, good luck trying to find these "Romans and various people of the outside world" cutting off women's breasts and shoving them in their mouths (as Boudicca's "army" did), without going all the way to the Armenian Holocaust in World War 1.
The Gods have smiled upon me. A brilliant documentary to relive the tedium of my day. Old telly friends teaching me wonderful history.
I cast no aspersions anywhere else, but as a long-time (20+ years) fan of Time Team, this is my favorite production from Time Team Official yet. Great job. Encore encore!
Sadly, you cannot top Boudica.
Brilliant episode, I’ve always admired Boudica. Thank you Time Team!!
Like old times Tony and Time Team. Dont watch it now but came to this and rejoiced
Seeing that child's split skull. Brings it home, my heart broke a little...
Aah, Time Team. Like comfy slippers on a winter night.
I remember watching this episode when it was new. It inspired me to try working with copper wire bought at the local hardware store. Since then I've learned lots of metal working to make jewelry. Only for myself, but it's enormously satisfying. I even like keeping the copper polished.
Fun fact - Lost wax technique is still used to cast parts in all kinds of materials.
Tony and Boudicca?! I’m being spoiled!!
I understand!
Tony, Phil and Guy...perfect!
Don't forget Helen!
@@future_me_6067 oops...of course not...sorry Helen!
For me; Philip Harding and Francis Pryor. With Guy de la Bedoyere bringing up the Roman rear-guard. Pryor and Harding are "Deep History" expert professionals. If not for 'Black-Adder' Baldric would be no-where to be seen. Though he is a lovely-horrid-funny little man; bless him and his infuriating trench-hopping.
@@KernowekTim I agree although Sir Tony met Mick on a dig in Greece I believe so had an amateur interest...which is good, he made the archaeologists accountable! I love Francis for his undying enthusiasm
Vale Mick…. Much missed 💐
Time Team is my Happy Place ❤❤
I like the time team program wery mutch with Tony Robinson and the rest of the original crew more. When you have follow a program 20 years its hard to just forgett the show with the old crew.
So good to see Tony Robinson back. He just lifts your interest in the subject 😊
It is so wonderful watching all of you digging up history for us!! I have always loved anything on Boudica and their history! Thank you so very much for delving into this more for us!!👏👏👏💯💯💯🙏💖🪶💞✨️💜
I used to work with precious metals - silver and gold. I think there is a mistake in the explanation for the gold-rich surface of the torques. I believe the surface layer was enriched by repeated heating and "pickling", that is heated to oxidise the copper in the outer surface, then placed in an acid bath of some kind to dissolve away the copper oxide. This process has been used for centuries and I'm pretty sure it was discovered millennia ago.
If the experiment Torc Team had been working with a rod of the alloy, maybe they would have found this.
The presenter did actually mention heating oxidization and quenching in acid, while she was describing the hammering process.
The story of Boudicca fascinates me! Thank you ❤
Tony, Phil, Francis, Guy, Helen oh wow! Delitefull!
Just magical. History of our Isles is simply amazing. Educational narrative with Sir TR deploying his incredible, colourful and mesmerising storytelling. Thank Q ❤
"East Anglia became something of a backwater, just as it is today", Tony being absolutely savage!
Always a great pleasure to view time teams offerings. As a lover of history, I truly appreciate your work. Go Time Team!!
Fantastic. What a pleasure it was to find this one posted today.
I don't know if i ever saw this one so it was a nice treat!
Yes it was great fun being with Timeteam.
Starting in a few minutes? I’ll just make the tea then…
Already eating mine, dessert will have to wait though
Same
I wonder how many people of British descent are descended from the Iceni tribe. I know there is no way to know, but sometimes I wonder what clans my ancestors were in. Where were my ancient British ancestors when all this was going down? Did they fight? On which side? Did the warriors survive the battle or just their children?
It would be interesting to know if DNA studies have been done on any of the Iceni skeletal remains. They could check for Y-DNA and mtDNA, which would give clues to such questions. 25 years ago, the DNA tech was unavailable. Maybe Google around to see if any studies have been done.
Some if My ancestry come from Norfolk
Tony! HOORAY!
Queen Boudica lived and died for her children and her tribe
Freedom
There is rarely a mention of the huge hill fort north of Thetford, attributed to the Iceni. The excavation was led by Tony Gregory in the 1980s and must have been a key area after the defeat of Boudicca
This is just so right on a Sunday. Time Team never fails to deliver the goods.
"Time Team" is not Time Team without Tony Robisnon - Come back Tony
Boudica is my favourite person of all time ... 😊
The furthest ancestor I found in England is the saxon King Aella.
Thanks so much for a fantastic episode. Bravo 👏
Saw this so many years ago. Now, re-edited, reshown. I'll rewatch. This was some of the best television a quarter century ago. And how about all the "farm" videos? I may just troll the past. Of course, I'm heading for my mid-seventies. No longer excited by anything new.
So good.. I have always loved this channel.
Love being a patron 👍🏻😁❤️
So glad the old team are back. Brilliant episode as always
🇬🇧 I believe that the battle where Boudica was ambushed was not at Mancetta but just off the Foss way somewhere near Leamington Spa.
Also, Hill top restaurant near Leamington Spa is surely a Roman troops lookout. It has views all around and is just off the Foss Way.
Kiwi with lots of Norfolk ancestry. Sometimes I dream a little, that I have Iceni blood in my veins.
You never know.
Love learning about this period in history.
Awesome stuff
🤘😎🤘
Looking good Tony, great to see some of the team again.
For anyone planning to visit Venta Icenorum there's also on the southern outskirts of Norwich some other places of interest:
Whitlingham, now a country park, its flint mines date back to around 4000 BC. The area was known for flint-knapping, a process where flint stones were shaped into tools and weapons.
Arminghall Woodhenge, a Neolithic ring of wood posts, the remains of which are underground or have been excavated recently, the site radiocarbon date is 3650-2650 Cal BC (4440±150).
I love Time Team.
I like to think Boudica was satisfied with giving the Romans a darn good kicking, and it may be all she wanted :)
Fantastic insert into a lesser known, short but fascinating period of Britannia's ancient tribal history.
After all, what did the Romans do for us?
Glad Francis Pryor said that .
I don’t think it’s a case of Rome ostracising the iceni more a case of the iceni turning their back on Roman ways , they didn’t need that Roman market town they’d got their own
Comments by Guy and Francis towards the end...very illuminating.
"where we are from we have hillforts, and we put them on hills" that got me
They had nothing but time to master their metallurgy skill sets!
An appearance of Phil Harding 👍👍✌️
Loving it from Loveland Colorado usa
I've always rather wondered where the gold came from that they made the jewelry from. Who taught them to work it? Always great to see these, I've loved watching the Time Team first finding it during covid and now as a patron of their comeback.
This made my Sunday, seeing the old faces from TT!🥲
Seeing Phil in his element puts a smile on my face!😂😎👍
Great stuff something to learn from all of the troubles 😊
Its TONY!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤
Wow Stonea is near march that is quite a distance from Norwich.
Thanks
Whenever Francis speaks, I pretend it's Charlie Brown's teacher. Wah wah wah
Venta Icenorum was what was known as a "civitas." It was built as a "capitol" of sorts for a particular tribe that had territory in the Roman Empire. So it was built to be a Iceni capitol city.
Poor Phil he really didn't like seeing that skull 💀
What a lovely surprise!
Gotta love Phil.
Love the recreation of the torque
I’m going to argue the torcs were broken once the owner died. They didn’t want to be buried with them because they feared someone would come along and despoil the grave, take the torc and claim the authority of the previous owner. This way the power was broken, and no one could claim that power for their own.
My hapenny’orth anyways 😃
So.... Anyone tell me when and more interestingly why? Beau-de-see-ah became Boo-di'k-a'. I know it happened, but why? Do we think we now know more about how they spoke? Or....?
It still remains a great mystery to this day the actual site of the last battle that the Iceni and other tribes took on the Roman legions. Somewhere there must be evidence of this.
czcams.com/video/TxX4XrjuppI/video.htmlsi=DIwLB4kmvT0rYDO2
I live near to the town love walking the dog there
the Icini had all the right to rebel and the fact that horrible assault on Boudica and her dauthers was narrated by a roman historian makes it believable because it comes from the perpetrator. that's why I hate conquerors and don't understand people fascination with them.
I chanced on this when CZcams threw it up on my Home page. The funny thing is that only the other day I wondered what had happened to this show. Interesting because a) I'd never seen it before and b) I don't really have any memory of filming the scenes with Tony at Castor St Edumnds or Colchester (which must have been in 2010). What I mostly remember is breaking my toe on the bed in the hotel at Colchester because it was only about 6 inches narrower than the room I was in, and that the motorcycle I had driven down on had a defective rectifier which had flattened the battery. The content of the show I had totally forgotten.
So what happened to Boudica’s two daughters when she died?
Never let anyone say that the Roman Empire was a glorious one. They were as barbaric, if not more so, than the people they conquered.
Iron age metalworking. Have many tools been found? Did the metalworkers have a bench vise?
Heat the mold, melting the wax, then pour the metal.
Can't wait 👍
It's a shame that even after all this time we've never really found solid proof of whatever really happened to her body. The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps she was cremated. However even for someone as revered as she was it's almost hard to imagine that they would have even allowed a cremation to occur if anything I would imagine that her body would have been venerated. So still fingers crossed for the day that perhaps sometime in the future her body or traces of a burial for her is finally found.
6 weeks to dig? Why the leisurely pace?😂
Brilliant, great episode. Celtic/Briton Britain and Ireland will always be the most interesting history of the British Isles. If there are more episodes from this period that haven't been uploaded before would love to see them. I would love to know more about the period of Celtic Britain between the Romans leaving and the Anglo-Saxons arriving. Is there a Box set of Time Team that we can buy somewhere or even a digital boxset of all the old episodes?
Personally I believe the reason the torc are damage is because you wouldn't want anyone else to use, if only high status people wear these object they wouldn't want anyone else wearing it that's for sure.
Guy may like to look upon the stagnation of Venta Icenorum as the Romans holding back from the Icenii but I think there is more to Francis' suggestion, that the Icenii, defeated in battle & their population devastated, were still proud enough to reject complete Romanisation, & that the vast majority of those who survived & came after them thrived in their traditional settlements as they had before the Romans invaded Britannia. Of course there are some who would have succumbed to the newest Roman fashions but the large number of round houses within the town walls show that even many of those who had to live within the town did not care for the Roman way of life.
Great, thanks. One thing - Tacitus is pronounced "Ta-kee-toos".
I had a thought about there being parts of the torqs buried... is there any chance that the Iceni, when forced to give over their weapons, melted down their gold to make weapons to fight the Romans? It was just a thought.
Could this be where Boudica was born, stayed in, or where her village was?
Need a better way to add correct subtitles. Give translators the script?
Updated subtitles are on the way and will be added soon. Thanks
No mention of the defeat of the Ninth Legion.
And we were shown geophys images of a townscape packed with features - what happened to all that?
Could the Snettisham Hoard indicate a deliberate self-destruction of the tribe's leadership? You would have thought that an obvious question for the Team.
It's a good 'un!
12:10 - maybe, might, they just don't KNOW. It's speculation.
That’s how scholars and scientists talk. There’s always a possibility that future research may change the way the evidence is evaluated. Several examples of that are mentioned in the episode, where what was thought in the past had to be changed, in light of new discoveries and analyses. Therefore, definite statements are avoided. It’s not speculation as much as careful consideration. As always, “as far as we can know now” is assumed.
@@Historian212 I know, some of the suppositions are just silly though!
ICENI IDENTITY could still be there in lots of those that were always there.... even Centuries later to today
Boudicca shmoodica. Caradoc was the real hero of the resistance with the Silures tribe. Ten years before he was captured and they fought on for another twenty. Not a three week strop like shmoodica.
32:45 Varus! give me back my legions!
I wonder what they used for acid?
Similar to breaking a dead man's sword?
Food for the algorithm
Google maps satellite picture shows the field (SW of Caistor St Edmund) with the grid lines of Venta Icenorum visible on the ground (And no, I don't believe St Edmund was named after Edmund Blackadder.).
I'm American and I even know about bucca