Dragon Ball Super Episode 60 Reaction | Goku Black's Identity Revealed

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024

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  • @Tony2-Dirty
    @Tony2-Dirty Před měsícem +60

    To be fair, the whole “Goku doesn’t know about kissing” thing is a mistranslation. It was really that he confused about why Trunks mouth-to-mouthed the Senzu Bean to Mai instead of just the usual way of putting it in her mouth and letting her eat it.

    • @foxxtitan7028
      @foxxtitan7028 Před měsícem +14

      TBF this whole sequence that also occure in the manga was a complet failed attempt of a joke that have left confuse even the Japanese fans themself.

  • @The_One_In_Black
    @The_One_In_Black Před měsícem +79

    They mistranslated this. The whole point was that Vegeta thought Goku was saying kissing her was weird, while Goku was actually referring to the feeding thing.

    • @neph6098
      @neph6098 Před měsícem +24

      Yep, Goku kissed Chichi at their wedding, so at least once he did XD

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem +10

      Which the feeding thing was weird so he had a point there 🤗

    • @wren7195
      @wren7195 Před měsícem

      That or because Goku's dumb as a brick he'd only know like "two-play, three-play."

    • @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
      @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv Před měsícem +1

      Finally someone who realizes, this is what I assumed when I first saw that scene

  • @Crocogator
    @Crocogator Před měsícem +38

    love yourself like Zamasu loves himself.

  • @illyahrthebard3303
    @illyahrthebard3303 Před měsícem +9

    12:31 As mentioned, Goku not knowing what a kiss was is a mistranslation. He didn't wonder what a kiss was, he wondered why they kissed instead of just feeding her the bean. It's also a meme that Chichi's aggressiveness influences her bedroom activities as well lol

  • @HeadBodyMasterPersonal
    @HeadBodyMasterPersonal Před měsícem +54

    Goku not knowing what kissing is was a change in the translation. In the original Japanese, he just thinks it's weird, but he knows what it is.

    • @LeFisheboi
      @LeFisheboi Před měsícem +16

      I perfer to think goku was confused about them Baby Birding it and everyone else thinking it was kissing

    • @Lord_Freeza1410
      @Lord_Freeza1410 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@LeFisheboiyeah that's what he meant, everyone in the scene assumed he was talking about kissing

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Před měsícem +8

      Yeah, because this was the moment that REALLY ticked people off. By now, Goku has been thoroughly flanderized, and while it wasnt intolerable before, this translation error did the already iffy writing no favors.

    • @supersense5924
      @supersense5924 Před měsícem +8

      Iv seen the Japanese alot of times, he actually did say he didn’t know what kissing was in Japanese, it’s annoying but he did say it

    • @Oiinchi
      @Oiinchi Před měsícem +1

      ​@@supersense5924Super Goku's gags are sometimes tricky to understand, I don't know if you read manga but if u don't I'm just gonna put a Spoiler
      Goku in last chapter when Piccolo told let's pick up Pan, Goku was confused leading to people thinking he forgot his granddaughter, but the joke is that Pan Japanese means bread, and Goku was confused why Piccolo asked him to pick up bread with him

  • @cunningsmile4166
    @cunningsmile4166 Před měsícem +8

    Dynamic Time Travel is like how Doctor Who and Back to the Future work. Multiverse theory is a popular cop out

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem

      Hasn’t heard it called Dynamic Time Travel before. Didn’t know it had a specific name to it. Thanks! 🙂

    • @TSNeph
      @TSNeph Před měsícem

      There are 3 main types of fictional time travel.
      Back to the Future = butterfly effect, anything can change the future.
      Avengers = changes split timelines.
      Terminator 1 = You can't change anything, everything you do already happened.
      DB operates on Avengers rules.

    • @sevisavory
      @sevisavory Před měsícem +3

      ​@@TSNeph u mean avengers operates on dragon ball rules

    • @TSNeph
      @TSNeph Před měsícem

      @@sevisavory I use the names people are most familiar with. Endgame was huge and had an explanation in it. Honestly I could use a better one for Terminator at this point, as its age is affecting how many people have seen it, but I don't know of a more recent, popular example.

    • @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
      @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv Před měsícem

      How is it a cop out? That's just what it is lmao

  • @3X3LR8
    @3X3LR8 Před měsícem +9

    Goku does know what kissing is, and how it works, and he has kissed chi-chi before in the cell saga. It was simply a translation error, in the original he just thinks mouth to mouth is weird lol.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem

      And he’s right that’s a unique and different way to give the Senzu bean. But he still should’ve figured out why Trunks would be cool doing that 🤗

  • @3X3LR8
    @3X3LR8 Před měsícem +16

    HAHA no- the sex scene was from the parody DBZ abridged, not the original series. 😂

    • @Agent-57
      @Agent-57 Před měsícem +1

      Yes but they did have sex offscreen since you know, Goten was born. Just not as aggressive as in abridged.

    • @3X3LR8
      @3X3LR8 Před měsícem +8

      @@Agent-57 They said they HEARD they had sex and it was kinda passionate, learn to listen pls

    • @3X3LR8
      @3X3LR8 Před měsícem +4

      @@Agent-57 Point is they thought there was a sex SCENE

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem +3

      Sometimes we forget what was in Kai and abridged 😂🤭

  • @jayturner6570
    @jayturner6570 Před měsícem +3

    anybody remember their first 60 eps of dragon ball? honestly amazing to see y'all go on this journey.

  • @Dr.Clorox3914
    @Dr.Clorox3914 Před měsícem +2

    The questions about goku's marriage are answered earlier in the series, I suggest reacting to the 23rd world tournament arc from the sagas before Z.

  • @GirlofCulture
    @GirlofCulture Před měsícem +12

    Abridged Trunks: “You never got married? Okay, if two people love each other especially then.
    Abridged Vegeta: “That was a joke, who the hell doesn't know what marriage is?”
    Me: “Goku”

    • @Crocogator
      @Crocogator Před měsícem +2

      Marriage? Yeah I'm starving!

  • @lolkaverr
    @lolkaverr Před měsícem +7

    New Dragon Ball Super reaction = Day Made

  • @kaialone
    @kaialone Před měsícem +2

    No matter what you believe, Goku and Chichi match each others freak 🤔
    Generally people assume that Vegeta and Goku just have a little misunderstanding there- Goku is weirded out by mouth feeding, and Vegeta THINKS he's talking about kissing (The Japanese dub lends itself a bit more to this reading.)

  • @stelpanagakos2520
    @stelpanagakos2520 Před měsícem +1

    Wow did not notice the end of the credits to this episode until now

  • @soulbade-x9709
    @soulbade-x9709 Před měsícem +1

    I'm glad you two brought it up because we all feel the same about Goku in Super. At times, writers like to push Goku's stupidity in Super, because he wasn't this dumb in Z. Goku forgetting the Senzu beans irritates me. In Z, Goku and Krillin are the only ones in the show that remember to stock up on senzu beans and everyone else just relies on them to always have some on them.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah it’s fun to have him be naive. Being just dumb isn’t as fun. But it doesn’t happen so much that it ruins the show for us but we get why it might for others 🤗

  • @myrkrormr
    @myrkrormr Před měsícem +4

    Totally random, as ive already watched you guys react to this on your patreon, but i have a video request. have you ever heard of a comedian named Randy Feltface? if not, my request is you do a reaction to his bit "I bought a bookshelf off Gumtree" its hilarious and i feel its right up your guys' alley

  • @kampy19
    @kampy19 Před měsícem

    Two things: Goku also didn't know what Marriage was when Chichi first brought it up. He thought it was food, so this naivete is sort of par for the course for him lol. Secondly, people are saying it's a mistranslation, which is only half true. The original dialogue is purposefully ambiguous for the joke. Vegeta and Goku *could* be talking about two different things, or maybe they are talking about the same thing.
    Goku: "Woah Trunks, you actually put your mouth up against hers?"
    Vegeta: "You've never done that?
    Goku: "Of course not"
    Vegeta: "But you're married!"
    Goku: "What does being married have anything to do with this?"

  • @A-RedHerring
    @A-RedHerring Před měsícem

    The Mai and Kid Trunks stuff will never not be weird.
    She's a whole grown ass woman.

  • @smdownh9
    @smdownh9 Před měsícem +1

    This episode says Goku and Chi-Chi only bang and never have 4 play at all

  • @NinjaKIngAce
    @NinjaKIngAce Před měsícem

    I might be wrong, but the only time I can think of, where Chi-chi kisses Goku, was a kiss on the cheek back in OG Dragon Ball, and Goku seemed a bit uncomfortable. This was after agreeing to marry her, btw

  • @ryu855
    @ryu855 Před měsícem +2

    Goku does know what a kisses She kissed him On their wedding day Or the day before When he said yes he would marry her It's a good scene You Should Check it Out

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem

      Is it in OG DB? Because we do plan on watching that after Super 😅

    • @ryu855
      @ryu855 Před měsícem

      @@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 yes

  • @AngelPerez-tu1nk
    @AngelPerez-tu1nk Před měsícem +2

    Yeah what everyone else said is right, the whole Goku not knowing what kissing is was a mistranslation. And we have proof that Goku kissed Chi-Chi at least once in their wedding.

  • @kaossenpai7723
    @kaossenpai7723 Před měsícem +3

    IM SO PUMPED TO SEE THIS

  • @andreware2039
    @andreware2039 Před měsícem +1

    This episode is very weird with Goku and the kissing part. This is why people kind of hate how dbs dumbed him down. He knows this stuff and has experienced it.
    It's so weird 😂

  • @mekoware2358
    @mekoware2358 Před měsícem

    There's actually this funny little comic strip going around the internet that kind of explains the whole kissing scene away. It's funny because it shows Goku and Chichi in bed as he is explaining what happened to her. And she's just a confused as he is, it really makes the scene because he looks to her and asks, "am I supposed to mama bird you?" And then Chichi response, "Goku I don't know what Bulma and Vegeta are into." What are the favorite fan theories is that Chichi is just as naive as Goku when it comes to relationships, and considering how she grew up it's not that hard to believe.😂

  • @SuperSky9
    @SuperSky9 Před měsícem +1

    For Anyone One Confused -
    This entire arc is happening in 2 timelines of the same universe.
    This is a not a multi-verse, this is a Chrono-verse.
    Im saying because when it came out people were having week long debate of WTF was happening.

  • @loth-alda
    @loth-alda Před měsícem +2

    08:25 It's so funny how by this alone we could say that Goku raw dogs Chi-chi no foreplay no nothing

  • @ultrainstinctsonbrandon
    @ultrainstinctsonbrandon Před měsícem +9

    8:27 Technically, he did back in Z. When he recovered from his Heart Virus, he did kiss Chichi
    8:38 What do you expect from someone who dumb and stupid like Goku would think?
    10:08 Answers finally revealed.

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Před měsícem +6

      Goku's stupidity was exaggerated for comedic effect in the Abridged series, and he was never THAT dumb in the actual series. A bit out of touch and simple sometimes? Sure, he's no bookworm or high class scholar, but stupid? Not even close.

    • @ultrainstinctsonbrandon
      @ultrainstinctsonbrandon Před měsícem +1

      I only said stupid because Vegeta called him stupid, dumb, or any other insults that he called him

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Před měsícem +1

      @@ultrainstinctsonbrandon Well of course, I just meant in general that the show flanderized him, dw.

    • @ultrainstinctsonbrandon
      @ultrainstinctsonbrandon Před měsícem

      @@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 I know, but you know, Goku is not the smartest one out of the entire Z Fighters

    • @thelettucebarrel7784
      @thelettucebarrel7784 Před měsícem

      @@ramenbomberdeluxe4958Goku was always kind of stupid, this isn’t Super exclusive.

  • @lordkiesor22
    @lordkiesor22 Před měsícem +1

    Ladies and gentleman……… Goku. Wow! 🙄🤣

  • @explicitantony9623
    @explicitantony9623 Před měsícem +1

    8:47 bruh Lmaoo

  • @samuelclayhills3298
    @samuelclayhills3298 Před měsícem +2

    Yeah the Goku doesent know kissing bit is at least a good explanation for why Chi Chi is so angry all the time. As said before the sex scene was from abridged witch isn't directly canonical to Super so that isn't exactly relevant here.
    The big twist is that Goku black is actually Zamasu as well making us wonder who is Zamasu or maybe even when is Zamasu. Its of course funny that they can only work together with eachother because of narcisism. The fact that they have a nice vacation spot is actually a core part of Zamasus ideology as they belive that mortals are a blight on it and sully the world. This is of course undermined by the fact that they themselvs destroy so much to eradicate the mortals but this is something that Goku black at least has lamented and they see it as a necesary evil for their coming utopia free of mortals. Zamasu had ideals that twisted them into something much worse hell Friza is probably the only one to be more of a petty asshole while Zamasus multiversal scale is probably the pinacel of evil. We have seen why Zamasu fell to this path and how they have embraced this depravity witch is a tradgedy because they could have been better in a perfect world.
    Next episode its the big banger reveal stay tuned folks.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem

      You said Whois Zamasu and when is Zamasu and I just wanted to say “why is Zamasu!” From Infinity War with Drax 😝🤗

  • @dalo267
    @dalo267 Před měsícem

    Goku advocated for Bulma to kiss Elder Kai in exchange for Elder Kai making Gohan stronger, so Goku does know what kissing is

  • @danielramsey6141
    @danielramsey6141 Před měsícem +2

    Next Episode is gonna be Dope As Hell! 😎😎😎.
    Stay Tuned!

  • @mAcChaosCh
    @mAcChaosCh Před měsícem +1

    That kissing joke scene never sat well with anyone. People always said DBS made Goku a lot dumber (and it did) and this is one of those moments. The best I can say to try and salvage this is that it was supposed to be a "joke" where Goku is talking about giving sensu beans with a kiss and Vegeta misunderstands that it is about kissing, period, and they both talk past each other.

  • @Ichy3
    @Ichy3 Před měsícem +1

    Time travel headaches
    Timeline A Trunks travels to the past to help Goku
    Timeline B Cell kills a version of Trunks and steals the time machine
    Timeline C there is a version of Goku who lives and has his body stolen by Zamsu and goes Timeline A teams up with himself
    Timeline D DBZ GT happens 😢
    Timeline E is dragonball heros

  • @xxshadowzxx0091
    @xxshadowzxx0091 Před měsícem +1

    2:43 this is how time travel works at least in dragon Ball. 😅 The truth is that you can experiment with time travel in any way you like as long as it's consistent. For example whatever you do in your past should affect your future. Enough time doesn't work like that then I will have to be based off multiverse theory for example Whatever you do in the past will not affect the future because it has already happened. Trunks saving Goku in the past would not affect the Goku that died in his timeline because it happened in a parallel universe at a different point in time.

  • @MrMeddyman
    @MrMeddyman Před měsícem +1

    Yeah this is kind of one of those episodes where they take the "Goku is stupid" Trope way too far. I also think it's a mistranslation because the idea Goku doesn't know what kissing is, that is just way too far. Irregardless one of the biggest criticisms that gets held against dragon Ball super is that they made Goku way too stupid and they don't understand his character. Goku is socially inept because he lived in the woods and has no formal education, but he's not stupid. In fact in dragon Ball z there are many times where Goku proves himself to be one of the smartest people in the show.
    From using Yakons energy absorption abilities against him to destroy him in a single blow. Teaching Goten and T😊runks the fusion technique. Throwing the frog at Captain Ginyu to switch him back from his body. He figured out Hits' Time skip ability, which took advanced deduction and math to predict. Figure out that he couldn't defeat perfect cell and put Gohan in a position in which he could defeat perfect cell, also all the stuff where he figured out that Super Saiyan grade 2 and grade three were worthless techniques, something Trunks couldn't figure out.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem

      Yeah and the joke wasn’t even funny. If they are going to make him stupid it needs to at least be some great comedy 🤗

  • @shade4108
    @shade4108 Před měsícem +1

    Considering Goku believed marriage was food, him not knowing what kissing was isn't that surprising, Goku black has more to share about his wish so popcorn and drink on standby

  • @jscotch2879
    @jscotch2879 Před měsícem +1

    Poor Chi Chi Indeed….

  • @JJ-xy7dx
    @JJ-xy7dx Před měsícem +1

    Okay so, for the kissing scene, the original Dialogue reads as follows: "How can you put your mouths together like that?" "You've...never done it before?" so you could go with the idea that Goku was refering to the Mama Bird feeding while vegeta was reffering to Kissing, but you also have to remember that DBS isnt the best written show out there, they constantly have characters need to learn leasons they already learned and not know about things we've literally seen them do, so, that's your answer.

  • @edg810
    @edg810 Před měsícem +1

    Yes, the kissing thing is confusing and done for comedy. Goku used to be innocent and naive about everything not related to fighting and that made him funny and adorable when he was a kid. As an adult though they've just turn him into borderline mentally challenged. Like the whole "whoops I forgot the senzu beans" didn't used to be a Goku thing to do, but they do it now for comedy relief. It just feels like as he experienced the world and the universe instead of learning and growing he just devolved and got dumber. I guess you could argue CTE 🤷🏽‍♂

  • @ajn_rules_5074
    @ajn_rules_5074 Před měsícem +3

    I believe, the whole Goku not knowing what kissing is, that it's a translation error. In JP, Goku was calling the mouth to mouth feeding weird. So it's just English dub making Goku dumb lol

    • @TbA500N
      @TbA500N Před měsícem +2

      That's what i thought
      It's Vegeta misunderstanding

  • @rickr9111
    @rickr9111 Před měsícem +1

    “I switched body with you goku!”
    Ken and Beth are shocked!
    TECNICALLY correct Beth but not the way you both expected XD

  • @trevorjr1974
    @trevorjr1974 Před měsícem

    Goku doesn't even know what kissing is actually mind blowing do be honest I thought he did because chi chi and Goku always is have sex so it Is very mind blowing 😮 btw i definitely agree with Bethany

  • @reallytho224
    @reallytho224 Před měsícem +1

    You _ chichi and goten 😡 i cant wait for their reaction i think its the next episode 😄😄😄

  • @JiordyT
    @JiordyT Před měsícem +1

    Why are we still calling him Future Trunks if he’s not actually from the future then?

  • @Narutotar
    @Narutotar Před měsícem

    Watching Mai care about Bulma is weird if you watched dragon ball

  • @erosolacegenesis1503
    @erosolacegenesis1503 Před měsícem +3

    Trust me lovebirds
    Although you know the outcome of victory....
    *you have no IDEA of what it will take to gain it!*
    So brace yourselves.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Před měsícem +1

    Time travel is confusing in my opinion

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  Před měsícem

      Yeah it can make things super confusing and convulsed sometimes. It’s tough to execute well 😅

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Před měsícem

      @@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 indeed

  • @Deliric1Nebunu
    @Deliric1Nebunu Před měsícem +2

    In DBS they make Goku Be more stupid den all other Dragon ball Sagas and Animes.. and is not good .. :)

  • @3X3LR8
    @3X3LR8 Před měsícem +5

    I miss when goku was just naive and innocent, and not an idiot. Super dumbs him down for comedic purposes, to match his immaturity and comedy from the original dragon ball where it was understandable because he was a literal child, but it just feels wrong since he's a grown ass man, and he was a lot more mature and intelligent in Z.

    • @AMysticLegend
      @AMysticLegend Před měsícem

      Mature and intelligent you say?
      "Allows Vegeta to live, Gives Frieza energy to live even after he showed how dangerous and uncaring about other lives he was, Gives Cell a Senzu to give him his full strength right after tossing his 11 year old son to fight, Uses IT to king Kai and then just stands there allowing Cell to blow up himself and king kai, lowers his guard around Majin Vegeta right after they fought allowing him to get knocked out easily, Refuses to defeat Buu so Goten and Trunks can beat him to teach them how to save the world without him, Tosses the Potara to Gohan instead of rushing over and handing it to him and then just watches as Gohan struggles to find it leading to him getting Absorbed"
      Yea Goku was real smart.

    • @dalo267
      @dalo267 Před měsícem

      ​@@AMysticLegendand apparently you're not very bright either if you think any of those are judgements of Intelligence and not just Goku being naive or trusting

    • @AMysticLegend
      @AMysticLegend Před měsícem

      @@dalo267 Then Goku in Super is just naive then if that's the case

    • @AMysticLegend
      @AMysticLegend Před měsícem

      @@dalo267 there nothing naive or trusting about Goku giving Cell a senzu right before fighting Gohan when the entire world is at stake or just standing there waiting for him to explode on King Kais planet when Cell was clearly distracted or just tossing the potara and then standing there looking at Gohan rushing him while Buu is literally right there.

    • @dalo267
      @dalo267 Před měsícem

      @@AMysticLegend Goku giving Cell a Senzu Bean IS Naive, Goku had to make sure Cell exploded and besides you know Dragon Ball time it happened quicker than you think it is, Goku tossing the Potara to Gohan isn't his fault what was he supposed to do and if you really want to blame someone blame Gohan for not catching it

  • @BigDay020
    @BigDay020 Před měsícem +1

    What's your dogs name?

  • @hasnat10
    @hasnat10 Před měsícem +1

    I love goku but
    In this series he wayyy too gullible compared to DBZ Kai

  • @holdthepickle4205
    @holdthepickle4205 Před měsícem +3

    A warrior doesn't kiss

  • @Agent-57
    @Agent-57 Před měsícem +2

    Jeez no wonder Chichi is always pissed off. No action for her.

  • @GirlofCulture
    @GirlofCulture Před měsícem +2

    There is no man-child from the last 60 years of anime history that works as well as Goku... His Body knows what to do, but not his mind. He is not made for that.
    And over the years, from show to show, Goku has gotten dumber and dumber. Seriously. On a level, so it's not even funny anymore. One of my problems with DBS in general.
    ...

  • @IGN_OFFClAL
    @IGN_OFFClAL Před měsícem +1

    I'm pretty sure they even made fun of this in abridged.
    At one point Vegeta said "Kiss? is that some sort of food?
    I'm joking what kind of idiot doesn't know what a kiss is?"
    I'm sure a reply will remind me the episode

    • @myrkrormr
      @myrkrormr Před měsícem +1

      @@IGN_OFFClAL it was a joke about marriage between trunks and vegeta

  • @theverminator4219
    @theverminator4219 Před měsícem +3

    Goku has been married for 40 years, there’s absolutely no way he’s never kissed his wife I’ve never liked that scene either

  • @SHANKS-n9h
    @SHANKS-n9h Před měsícem +1

    Do you know that goku's head got hit by rock when he landed on earth and ever since he behaves like kid

  • @GhungaTheGreat
    @GhungaTheGreat Před měsícem +1

    s*x doesn't exist in dragon ball series, it most be fan fiction one you must be talking about. If you want to know Goku truth character you need watch OG Dragon ball where he is kid.

    • @loth-alda
      @loth-alda Před měsícem +3

      Just because it isn't shown doesn't mean it doesn't exist

    • @3X3LR8
      @3X3LR8 Před měsícem +2

      What the shit are you talking about?

    • @swordsman678-x6j
      @swordsman678-x6j Před měsícem

      @@3X3LR8 Yo when are you going to upload a new video?

    • @GhungaTheGreat
      @GhungaTheGreat Před měsícem +1

      @@3X3LR8 they said they heard them have have s** in DBZ that only in fan fiction they edit like that.