@Louis Bettermann It was a delight to see these two war birds brought back to life also important to aviation history as other planes stood on the shoulders of Me109 & F190 to compete against them. Also, a reminder of our past which must not be forgotten for its unique ability to inspire even today's generation. Excellent program & many thanks, Slainte
I get excited any time I see an interview with Capt. Eric Brown. Awesome man. Capt Brown once landed a Vampire with no landing gear on a rubber sheet spread across an aircraft carrier. You should do something on that. My father was a fighter/test pilot and was always smuggly proud of flying over 45 different types. Capt. Brown did ten times more.
Eric "Winkle" Brown, a test pilot's test pilot. No person in history has flown more types of aircraft. An authority on both German and Soviet aircraft based entirely on his first hand experience.
Agreed! Hopefully in the near future, together with our friend and producer from Quantafilms, we will be able to publish rare interviews that have never been seen and also some priceless ones with Frank Whittle that are still in 16mm format. It's like a treasure hunt :)
The BV-141 was NOT a problem looking for a solution, it was a solution looking for a problem. it was a good aircraft, it was just unusual and deemed too unconventional, it flew well and it had incredible visibility, which makes it useful it just was as useful as what eventually took the spot it was trying to fit in.
But!. Look at this in the 21's century, it is still a viable platform!. The real question is money!. If someone has the will and the money, platforms like this might have a place in the Sun again?.
it also used the same engine as the FW190, and the RLM could not justify reducing the production of a much-needed fighter to allow for an observation platform, regardless of its merits - BV141 was not cancelled for being unusual (look at some of the other pipe-dreams the Nazis threw money at), but for sensible economic reasons.
The BV 141 wasn't cancelled because of it's oddity, it was cancelled because the factory that was manufacturing them was hit and the Luftwaffe with its limited resources decided to focus on existing platforms.
It was just so amazing to hear these veterans speak and tell us the stories. I have been a fan of WWII aircraft since I was a kid I loved finding out about some of the planes that I have never heard about before...
What was your source for the historic footage? Do you use an archive service or ferret the footage out yourselves from govt libraries? Much of it I've never seen before and I've seen a lot of WWII air war stuff.
German aviation technology influenced all Air Forces to this day. It’s remarkably how the German science could excel in the middle of a war with shortages of everything.
Just a small criticism concerning the 141...you got your port and starboard mixed up: Port wine is red, the port navigation light is red. The word "left" has four letters in it, as does the word "port."
Hey, vorsprung durch technik, remember? If the powers in Germany in the second world war used all the amazing advances in technology wisely, history would be so completely different. Opting to use the Me-262 as a fighter-bomber was a catastrophic decision. Look at the Tiger one, a tank that totally outclassed any allied effort, but was so complicated as to be hopelessly unreliable. Look at the MG-42, the best machine gun in the war, so good in fact, its still used, and chosen today, only with a few minor modifications. Yes, history is a fickle thing, hey, maybe in a parallel universe.................NIGHTMARE!
Good point. But at the end of the day the U.S. alone had at least 10 times the production capacity of Germany…including Austria and other territorial additions.
Germany lost the war when they lost the caucus oil fields and failed to conquer Russia. No oil no hope. Neither the 252 nor the Tiger or any of the other amazing developments they made would have won them the war.
Why didn't the video delve into "possibly the best military transport of the era" . Which was the Arado 232 "B" model. Built with 4 Bramo 323 motors and had larger wings. Only 10 built, according to Wikipedia. But video completely ignores it and switches subject.
Why are you spinning the background? (3:40, Eric Brown speaking) Does spinning the background round and round add something? If it did I certainly missed what it was, it only had me wondering why it was spinning. wondering what is was illustrating..
Very nice place, but the engine was still extremely unreliable even after years of development. By the way, this is a fascination story about the jet engine. It includes an interview with Von Ohain, the father of the German jet engine and the one responsible for the 1st flight (but not the inventor): czcams.com/video/G0T4-XG612Q/video.html If you have not watched it, I think you will like it.
When you manufacture over 400 planes, you lose the capacity to build the fighters and bombers that are effective and successful. But here is the real problem. Germany did not have an effective four engine bomber that could destroy the Soviet heavy armament factories that out produced them in tanks, artillery, rockets, planes, and ammunition. Stalin famously said something to the effect that "Quantity is the quality that is the most effective in War". The reason for this is that German plane builder Heinckel was commissioned to come up with this but Hitler ordered him to produce such a bomber that could dive bomb like a Stuka. But this was impossible as the stress on the wings and the engines would have destroyed the plane in mid flight and so, none could be produced.
@ the exploding 234s engine: no sabotage was necessary, the quality of the metal used was that bad, that you had to adjust throttle very very cautious otherwise the engine would explode, even it’s was a completely new one.
I don't believe any of them got past the prototype stage. Through the course of development, Germany's fortunes turned for the worse & funding had to be diverted to more pressing needs.
What a fantastic program, I have thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish! Thanks so much! Eric was such a lucky man, he got to fly so many amazing aircraft, and he is so cool. Heres to you Richard Voght, and to Willie Messerschmitt, Hanz Von Ohain... and many others All those amazing German Scientists and Engineers. And Germany is still the engineering and scientific Capital of Europe! It is such a shame that the empires of Britain, France, and Russia had to gang up on Germany and the Austro Hungarian Empires.....here we are in 2023 and Germany id the Economic Power of Europe! Imagine if we had set up an EU and a NATO before WW1, along with a Free Trade Agreement that encompassed the British, German, French Empires and colonies into a Free Trade Agreement wrapped up in a NATO like defense Agreement! If Russia behaved its self it might have been asked to join! Obviously Spain and Portugal would also be invited to join along with Brazil, Chile, Mexico, Argentina. Japan, Korea, and Japan would be encouraged to have their own hemisphere but also invited to join the Real UN.
Hanna Reitsch, Possibly the best aviator in history...why isn't she better known? why was he born in defeated country, He set many height and speed records, some of which are still unbroken.
Pft you were just lucky hitler sent almost all his forces to russia, uk was losing everywhere you lost the battle of france,you lost in the balkans,in the pacific the japs wasted you ,also you were losing in norafrika
One has to admire (w/o the evil or sadism) the ingenuity of the German engineers. These designs would fit right in on a 2024 reboot of Star Wars. But that was the problem in wartime, these fanciful designs were often solutions to problems that didn't exist. Ultimately the superior engineering pieces of the Germans were (thankfully) beat by simple Shermans, T-34s, Garand rifles and mass produced P-47, 51, B-17 and 24 aircraft.
Este avión el B&V 141 de reconocimiento se fabricaron menos de 100 aparatos y se usó exclusivamente en el frente oriental. Su fracaso fué debido a usar un motor falto de potencia.
As for the jet (engine), they did not. Nobody really had much use of the German jet turbojets. The finish had been working all along on both axial, and centrifugal solutions, and gave a centrifugal turbojet to their ally, the United States, as early as 1941. If anything, the Germans followed the British lead when it comes to turbojets. As for everything else, what would you have done? The phone you are using originally comes from an Italian (living in the U.S.), and most electronics you use in your daily life exist in this state thanks to Silicon Valley, which is not in Germany. You have electricity thanks to Edison, and Tesla, and they did not live in Germany either, but Germans surely used that electricity to advance their research. On the other hand we are also lucky to have free speech. I doubt Nazi Germany would have allowed social platforms, or Internet, don’t you think?
germany lacked useful turbo supercharger and good unmanned turrets also radars and aiming was behind allies... not really better aircraft that allies had.
Italians have lived 100s of years listening to names such as Michelangelo being pronounced in the most ludicrous ways. Perhaps after all these centuries they got used to it.
One guy contributed.mit takes a lot that one individual, including brave astronauts, and an fleet of you g engineers. By the way, you should check the average age of NASA back the . Amazingly young
What utter nonsense. Germany did not produce superior aircraft. They were early out but all their aircraft bar Me 262 were all outclassed by allied aircraft. Germany produced unreliable niche aircraft that performed top of class within the niche but were decent at best outside of it, when they were servicable.
They produced many extremely good aircraft but were unable to rest or replace the pilots. In mid-war onward they had similar issues to the Japanese, aging, but still capable, aircraft, but very little capacity to make more and even less capacity to produce men to fly them and get the best use. In part due to simple lack of fuel to permit much flight time, but also because they didn't have instructors who had been in combat and survived - their best pilots kept flying sorties until the last day or until they died,nand their knowledge usually died with them.
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@Louis Bettermann It was a delight to see these two war birds brought back to life also important to aviation history as other planes stood on the shoulders of Me109 & F190 to compete against them. Also, a reminder of our past which must not be forgotten for its unique ability to inspire even today's generation. Excellent program & many thanks, Slainte
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I get excited any time I see an interview with Capt. Eric Brown. Awesome man.
Capt Brown once landed a Vampire with no landing gear on a rubber sheet spread across an aircraft carrier. You should do something on that.
My father was a fighter/test pilot and was always smuggly proud of flying over 45 different types. Capt. Brown did ten times more.
It's amazing how he remembers so many details, considering the number of aircraft he flew, and from so long ago.
Did you watch his biography on the channel? czcams.com/video/PSRAdZzRycc/video.html
What's his name?
Eric Winkle Brown…
Capt. Brown is something special & so is your Dad ❤️
My nephew loved this as he made an airfix kit of the blom & voss bv 141. He said he was amazed it was ever built, let alone fly.
Eric "Winkle" Brown, a test pilot's test pilot. No person in history has flown more types of aircraft. An authority on both German and Soviet aircraft based entirely on his first hand experience.
Agreed! Hopefully in the near future, together with our friend and producer from Quantafilms, we will be able to publish rare interviews that have never been seen and also some priceless ones with Frank Whittle that are still in 16mm format. It's like a treasure hunt :)
The BV-141 was NOT a problem looking for a solution, it was a solution looking for a problem. it was a good aircraft, it was just unusual and deemed too unconventional, it flew well and it had incredible visibility, which makes it useful it just was as useful as what eventually took the spot it was trying to fit in.
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The FW189 was a much better and importantly versatile design
But!. Look at this in the 21's century, it is still a viable platform!. The real question is money!. If someone has the will and the money, platforms like this might have a place in the Sun again?.
Although it a twin engine, I wonder if the Rutan Model 202 Boomerang was inspired by the BV-141.
it also used the same engine as the FW190, and the RLM could not justify reducing the production of a much-needed fighter to allow for an observation platform, regardless of its merits - BV141 was not cancelled for being unusual (look at some of the other pipe-dreams the Nazis threw money at), but for sensible economic reasons.
The BV 141 wasn't cancelled because of it's oddity, it was cancelled because the factory that was manufacturing them was hit and the Luftwaffe with its limited resources decided to focus on existing platforms.
They didn't say oddity. They said unconventional. Which is what explained for no reason lol. But what u think bout rest of the film?
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Germany gave a green light to crackpots.
That’s literally the story for every nazi aircraft, kinda sad the best planes in the world were made by the most horrendous government
0:45 smth they say oddity
Any conversation with Eric Brown is worth watching.
The Arado 234 , for me one of the beautiest dynamicst Plane of WW II 😍
For me , most beautiful of german aircraft of WWII was the Dornier Do- 335. nothing else to be said.
Great to see Capt. Brown. A flying legend.
It was just so amazing to hear these veterans speak and tell us the stories. I have been a fan of WWII aircraft since I was a kid I loved finding out about some of the planes that I have never heard about before...
Thank you. you should really enjoy E. Brown's playlist: czcams.com/video/PSRAdZzRycc/video.html
Amazing quality footage, great interviews. Nice job.
Much appreciated!
This is amazing content! Glad that I subscribed.
Awesome, thank you Michael!
WW2 Japanese Had Some Very Advanced Experimental Planes.
It is great(!) to have Mr. Brown comment on these aircraft. A privilege to have his input.
Much more Eric Brown's wisdom at: czcams.com/video/PSRAdZzRycc/video.html
What was your source for the historic footage? Do you use an archive service or ferret the footage out yourselves from govt libraries? Much of it I've never seen before and I've seen a lot of WWII air war stuff.
Licensed from a producer that had access to many archives
@@Dronescapes It's good quality film, some of the best I've seen of period footage.
I’ve never seen most of it.
I would be ever so happy to chat with any and all of those guys, who personally supplied these stories!
Bonus of a vid with Eric Winkle Brown , The 163 was the first I have seen on it even in animated form.
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Damn, Arado produced some SLICK aircraft!
On he other hand, it took a skilled crew ½ an hour to replace a jet engine, even in the field.
Bv 141 "Sidecar"
FW 189 "Uhu"
Ar 234 "Blitz"
Eric "Winkle" Brown - what a life the guy had, great bloke.
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Most interesting. No telling what aircraft innovations Germany could have come up if they hadn't been fighting a war.
War tends to drive and accelerate technological innovation.
German aviation technology influenced all Air Forces to this day. It’s remarkably how the German science could excel in the middle of a war with shortages of everything.
German engineers were very good at getting out of the box and then making a bigger one.
Love the Growling Sidewinder music. Nice touch.
Such a quality Video, Thanks for making it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
"Focke-Wulf" would be a great name for a heavy metal band.
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A Germán Trans Punk band would be cool for that.
As would BlitzKrieg
@@msgfrmdaactionman3000 T people are literally fkg insane w/ gen dysph. But a punk band already had that name when I was in college.
He is the Stig for aircraft.
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Why did we miss this on "Secret Weapons Over Normandy" and "Blazing Angels 2"?
Eric brown a legend
If they'd given me one of those BV 141's I'd be like: "Where's the rest of it?" 🤣
Eric Brown is one of the coolest person on the planet
Could not agree more. Possibly the greatest test pilot that ever lived.
You never miss with these videos. I can see these being used in History Classes 🎉
Glad you like them!
Unfortunately most "history" classes today are more concerned about the so-called "white supremacy" and "patriarchy" of the United States.
T-33, Fouga-Magister and F-104 also had large wing-tip tanks.
Just a small criticism concerning the 141...you got your port and starboard mixed up: Port wine is red, the port navigation light is red. The word "left" has four letters in it, as does the word "port."
Hey, vorsprung durch technik, remember? If the powers in Germany in the second world war used all the amazing advances in technology wisely, history would be so completely different. Opting to use the Me-262 as a fighter-bomber was a catastrophic decision. Look at the Tiger one, a tank that totally outclassed any allied effort, but was so complicated as to be hopelessly unreliable. Look at the MG-42, the best machine gun in the war, so good in fact, its still used, and chosen today, only with a few minor modifications. Yes, history is a fickle thing, hey, maybe in a parallel universe.................NIGHTMARE!
Good point. But at the end of the day the U.S. alone had at least 10 times the production capacity of Germany…including Austria and other territorial additions.
Germany lost the war when they lost the caucus oil fields and failed to conquer Russia. No oil no hope. Neither the 252 nor the Tiger or any of the other amazing developments they made would have won them the war.
Why didn't the video delve into "possibly the best military transport of the era" . Which was the Arado 232 "B" model. Built with 4 Bramo 323 motors and had larger wings. Only 10 built, according to Wikipedia.
But video completely ignores it and switches subject.
Why are you spinning the background? (3:40, Eric Brown speaking) Does spinning the background round and round add something? If it did I certainly missed what it was, it only had me wondering why it was spinning. wondering what is was illustrating..
winky baby is a dead set legend, thanks for this, bloody excellant
Yeah, no one called him that!
@@jaybee9269 I just did, if you don't like it here's a quarter tell someone who cares🤣🤣🤣, what a thing to pick on 🤣🤣🤣🤣
THANK YOU FOR VIDEO
You're welcome
Excellent job with the subs.
我が国でＢＶ１４１は「片ちんば」と呼称されて比較的有名な方でして、昔はエアフィクス社から７１分の１スケールのプラモデルが出ていました。今はチェコのメーカーに金型が移管されて販売中ですwwwアラド２３４ブリッツも、香港のドラゴン社から販売されていますね（笑）
All airplanes are fantastic. Thank you.
Glad you like them! Thank you too John.
even the Christmas Bullet?
This interview is in like 5 episodes...
The ME 262 was the best one!
Very nice place, but the engine was still extremely unreliable even after years of development. By the way, this is a fascination story about the jet engine. It includes an interview with Von Ohain, the father of the German jet engine and the one responsible for the 1st flight (but not the inventor): czcams.com/video/G0T4-XG612Q/video.html If you have not watched it, I think you will like it.
Interesting observation of the fuselage bouncing, not the wing tips.
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Loved the Horten brothers designs
You've already shown this, surely!
I wonder if the Ar232s would've had the same over heating issues at first due to cowling and air flow issues?
Wiele z tych pomysłów, po wojnie doczekało się realizacji w samolotach tworzonych przez aliantów. Ciekawy odcinek. Super kanał. Są napisy pl. 👍
It's an English-speaking site . . .
@@EllieMaes-Grandad ok, but you have pl subtitles. cool.
Rzeczywiście, i wielu ludzi tego nie wie.
The Germans had some weird but innovative airplanes in WW2.
AIrfix made models of these. I have them! Cool.
too little too late and way too much fighting between the different german aircraft manufacturers
Long before the World War?
Germany was in bondage to the Treaty of Versailles
Nice MAN
As far as design, the Germans (of the time) made absolutely beautiful aircraft.
But the Allies still kicked their tails!
When you manufacture over 400 planes, you lose the capacity to build the fighters and bombers that are effective and successful.
But here is the real problem. Germany did not have an effective four engine bomber that could destroy the Soviet heavy armament factories that out produced them in tanks, artillery, rockets, planes, and ammunition. Stalin famously said something to the effect that "Quantity is the quality that is the most effective in War".
The reason for this is that
German plane builder Heinckel was commissioned to come up with this but Hitler ordered him to produce such a bomber that could dive bomb like a Stuka. But this was impossible as the stress on the wings and the engines would have destroyed the plane in mid flight and so, none could be produced.
Anything with SIR Brown is worth seeing. He did get a knighthood right?? If he didn't, he should have.
More coming....🙂
If they'd built a big bomber, they might've won.
JU 87 the A10 of it's time, more famous than the HS 129 .
@ the exploding 234s engine: no sabotage was necessary, the quality of the metal used was that bad, that you had to adjust throttle very very cautious otherwise the engine would explode, even it’s was a completely new one.
Should have just had that bird cage suspended on stilts over that engine fuselage nacelle. Would have looked like a stretched Dora with cool wings.
Did the Germans. develop the "America Bomber"? I have read that it was proposed along the lines of the 4-engine bomber Condor.
I don't believe any of them got past the prototype stage. Through the course of development, Germany's fortunes turned for the worse & funding had to be diverted to more pressing needs.
What a fantastic program, I have thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish! Thanks so much! Eric was such a lucky man, he got to fly so many amazing aircraft, and he is so cool.
Heres to you Richard Voght, and to Willie Messerschmitt, Hanz Von Ohain... and many others
All those amazing German Scientists and Engineers. And Germany is still the engineering and scientific Capital of Europe!
It is such a shame that the empires of Britain, France, and Russia had to gang up on Germany and the Austro Hungarian Empires.....here we are in 2023 and Germany id the Economic Power of Europe!
Imagine if we had set up an EU and a NATO before WW1, along with a Free Trade Agreement that encompassed the British, German, French Empires and colonies into a Free Trade Agreement wrapped up in a NATO like defense Agreement! If Russia behaved its self it might have been asked to join! Obviously Spain and Portugal would also be invited to join along with Brazil, Chile, Mexico, Argentina.
Japan, Korea, and Japan would be encouraged to have their own hemisphere but also invited to join the Real UN.
Очень интересный выпуск👍
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Cool.
Kiedy próbowano zrobić kontynuacje z mocniejszym silnikiem okazalo się ze dostawal silnych wibracji. Porzucono kontynuację
Where is this museum?
CAPN BROWN Said that THE GERMAN Woman Test Pilot Hanna Reik I think Her NAME WAS !!!WAS A BRILLIANT and GUTTSY TEST PILOT !!! g
Hanna Reitsch, Possibly the best aviator in history...why isn't she better known? why was he born in defeated country, He set many height and speed records, some of which are still unbroken.
Erano molto avanti
What is or was a felt vebo? (the person who ran up the engines of the BV 141 at the airfield? Some sort of mechanic or ground personnel ?
Feldwebel
Damals waren wir Deutschen noch Technologiefuehrend
21:55 jettisoned reusable rockets! Nearly 80 years before space X
The FW-189 was in the first Indianapolis Jones movie.
Indiana?
@@Dronescapes No, I'm in Kansas.
@@ThatsMrMoronToYou hahahh
Trimotors? We had six a turning and four a burnin.
Of course I am referring to the B-36 " Peacemaker".
You mean ‘Two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking, and two unaccounted for’. 😂
When designing an aircraft, please do not design an ugly one!
Please don’t „Nazi“ for every German developement between 1933 and 1945👍
They didn't overwhelm the UK's RAF . . .
Pft you were just lucky hitler sent almost all his forces to russia, uk was losing everywhere you lost the battle of france,you lost in the balkans,in the pacific the japs wasted you ,also you were losing in norafrika
Yes Hitler got a bit salty after a bombing raid in germany so he started to only bomb London instead of their airfields and factories 🙈
Lend lease
@@johnpaul3099 Only later in the war. A the start, the UK paid cash for weapons.
@@EllieMaes-Grandad the US played a key role in sustaining the RAF
No está en castellano....solo el título...1 vez desactivados los subtítulos hala ahí lo llevas...1 docu q parece estar en español pero no lo está
One has to admire (w/o the evil or sadism) the ingenuity of the German engineers. These designs would fit right in on a 2024 reboot of Star Wars.
But that was the problem in wartime, these fanciful designs were often solutions to problems that didn't exist. Ultimately the superior engineering pieces of the Germans were (thankfully) beat by simple Shermans, T-34s, Garand rifles and mass produced P-47, 51, B-17 and 24 aircraft.
Cutting edge?
Este avión el B&V 141 de reconocimiento se fabricaron menos de 100 aparatos y se usó exclusivamente en el frente oriental. Su fracaso fué debido a usar un motor falto de potencia.
Planes that lost the war.
Thankfully
Brave Gentleman.
WW2 Had Some Good Advanced Ones Also.
Last time I checked the Allies won that war and saved the world from fascism. Very little glory in war. Enough said.
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You left out so much...
Oh well. Was cool anyways.
Germans at there best, Rest all copy cats.
Let’s not forget that the US took position of the first Helicopter, Jet fighter, U boats and assault rifle from the German at the end of WWII.
As for the jet (engine), they did not. Nobody really had much use of the German jet turbojets.
The finish had been working all along on both axial, and centrifugal solutions, and gave a centrifugal turbojet to their ally, the United States, as early as 1941.
If anything, the Germans followed the British lead when it comes to turbojets.
As for everything else, what would you have done?
The phone you are using originally comes from an Italian (living in the U.S.), and most electronics you use in your daily life exist in this state thanks to Silicon Valley, which is not in Germany.
You have electricity thanks to Edison, and Tesla, and they did not live in Germany either, but Germans surely used that electricity to advance their research.
On the other hand we are also lucky to have free speech. I doubt Nazi Germany would have allowed social platforms, or Internet, don’t you think?
The Bv-141 was a reconnaissance aircraft with a fairly decent range, but it was a solution looking for a problem
Interessante Bilder - aber eine grauenvolle Übersetzung!!!!
The engine of the Ar 234 was named Jumo not Zomo 🙂
the Me 234 Bliz I would Love to Fly or just to take a ride in Her. And the 335 I truly would Love to See and take a Ride In her too.
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germany lacked useful turbo supercharger and good unmanned turrets also radars and aiming was behind allies... not really better aircraft that allies had.
Blohm & Voss, is pronounced "Blohm & Foss"
Italians have lived 100s of years listening to names such as Michelangelo being pronounced in the most ludicrous ways. Perhaps after all these centuries they got used to it.
They lost the war, but still managed to go to the moon. 🌙
One guy contributed.mit takes a lot that one individual, including brave astronauts, and an fleet of you g engineers. By the way, you should check the average age of NASA back the . Amazingly young
What utter nonsense. Germany did not produce superior aircraft. They were early out but all their aircraft bar Me 262 were all outclassed by allied aircraft. Germany produced unreliable niche aircraft that performed top of class within the niche but were decent at best outside of it, when they were servicable.
They produced many extremely good aircraft but were unable to rest or replace the pilots. In mid-war onward they had similar issues to the Japanese, aging, but still capable, aircraft, but very little capacity to make more and even less capacity to produce men to fly them and get the best use. In part due to simple lack of fuel to permit much flight time, but also because they didn't have instructors who had been in combat and survived - their best pilots kept flying sorties until the last day or until they died,nand their knowledge usually died with them.
HANNA !!!REICH Was a WOMAN !!!to the MAN Who Answerd ME !!!LOL g