Vivo Barefoot Primus Lite vs Tolos Archetype 1.0 - Best Training Shoe?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Today we take a look at the most popular barefoot training shoe, the Vivo Primus Lite III and the recently released Tolos Archetype 1.0.
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Best thing I did was switching to barefoot style shoes from my Chucks which crammed my wide feet together like a ballerina
Really love my VIVO’s. Good stuff my dude
I could never get used to lifting in Chucks for that reason
Had my primus lite 3s for a year and a half. Can’t go back to wearing regular shoes now in my day to day. I use them in the gym and for running.
Nice!
Great review! Im glad I found this video along with Jakes. Was originally going to pick up VIvos, but im definitely getting the Tolos now.
Appreciate it! I just wore mine for USAPL Raw Nationals. If you want Basement now saves you 10% too.
I just saw your Instagram post about these shoes and I decided to look them up for reviews on CZcams. Did not expect you to be the one doing the review haha
😅 Tim Thebideau also has a video on them, I might have linked it in the description.
I’ve been wearing Chris Duffin’s Bearfoot shoes for two years now and have gravitated away from my Romaleos and Adipowers on squat days. I like being able to root my feet into the floor!
I don't mind mine so much as they're just annoying for me to put on/take off. First world problems.
Both of my Bearoot ursus shoes were falling apart out of the box. Stiching was unfinished and heels peeling off. I was sent a replacement that was worst than the first. Both worsened significantly before even finish the first gym days in them.
Been training with the Vivo for about 2 years now and was having the same issue with the shoestrings. Came across something that I call a hybrid of a double knot that works like a boss (tictok soccer player video). When you build your first bunny ear and wrap the other shoestring around once and that is the normal set up, but do it twice, that is what I call the hybrid double knot.
Will give it a go, thank you!
@@BasementBrandon Been tying my boots like this for a while...absolute GAME CHANGER...never comes untied and isnt all bulky and annoying like a double knot. Unties like a single not. Just pull and it comes undone.
@@BasementBrandon czcams.com/video/3HWgtg011mI/video.html
I love the wide toe box of the vivos, I’ve had them three months. I planned on using them as gym shoes but they are my daily driver now
right on! I have a pair of Innov8's I wear outside the gym currently.
I wear a pair of vivo as my duty boots. They're an amazing brand.
Jake Boly really got me into wanting Tolos but I was waiting for more reviews. Now that you’ve spoken about them, I think I’ll finally get a pair. His interview with the owner/founder was really great too.
Also, how would you compare these to your Notorious deadlift slippers?
I still like my Gen 2 (non sumo) slippers. I never really liked any of the newer ones b/c the sidewalls from the soles were built up too much for my liking and made the shoes feel narrower. Also didn't like some of the newer straps. I still wear mine but wanted something a bit more shoe like.
One reason i was looking at the vivos was just because they seem more breathable and i have a garage gym in florida, but thise tolos do look nice
I like my Vivo's, just hard to justify almost $200 for them.
I've been wearing the same shoes for years. Otomix for deadlift and Romealos 2 for everything else.
I found the Otomix ones were too narrow for my liking personally!
Those are not bad looking! I had a pair of Xero shoes that are not as thin as my Vibrams and you also need to size up but they’re another good budget option.
My man, thanks for checking in
Wish they had these in red
They do have the Vivos in red if I remember correctly. Black, white, red, blue. I think the waterproof ones might be grey.
@@Pete0621 OK credit card incoming 😂🤦♂️
The vivo has a "rust" color
I remember when I used to run in Vibram 5 fingers and anytime someone asked me how I liked them I would say “they are socially awkward”. I always felt like people were staring at my feet when I wore them.
They were
They def were!
I've had Vivo Barefoot shoes for a couple years. Recommended by my chiropractor Friend who is also a powerlifter and exercise enthusiast.
Right on!
Nice, been waiting for this one. Thanks Brandon!
You bet!
I was waiting for this video, eager and ready to jump on the barefoot shoe train. Sad to find that Tolos don't ship to Canada (yet). Any idea when international shipping will be an option? Love your reviews as usual, been watching your channel for years
I'd just shoot them a message on IG. He's super responsive.
Tolos here. Looks better especially the black. Material thicker and more durable. No shoe tongue or insole inside so they fit like a glove and no distracting feelings while wearing without socks. Can also wear unlaced while still feeling secure as if tied. The material is also thick enough so that you don't feel like your thumb toe nail is going to cut a hole in the upper like some mesh style shoes eventually do. And finally they are $115 ... in stock and arrived at my door in 3 days!!! Tolos for the win.
Appreciate the feedback!
been a long time since I dropped in on your channel.. not a power lifter, but you have good insights on stuff.
I have been thinking about tolos.., after seeing Joel that fit friend.., good stuff
Been enjoying them!
What size did you purchase in the Vivo's? I am a half size as well and upsized with my vivo's and they are a little big. I was afraid to downsize and be too small.
Did you get a size 13? Thanks
I did. They're noticeably bigger in the toe box.
"I wear 13's, know what I mean" RIP Biggie
The funny thing is when I was a teenager/early 20s I wore size 15 in most cases. Not sure how that worked out that I wear a 12.5 now.
@@BasementBrandon I think back in the day companies made basketball shoes smaller so we could dream we could be as big as Shaq's.
@@BasementBrandon I think that’s called shrinkage
@@BasementBrandon probably just colder out
Because when we are young we are idiots and don’t wear clothes that fit properly. I think men tend to have the habit of thinking they are bigger than they are especially when we are young. Bigger clothes were also a fad too.
How about comparing with reebok powerlite?
I may be able to do that, I still have 3 pairs.
Vevo sounds better for me with the wider toe box, thanks for the review Brandon.
No problem!
I'd pick up a pair of the Tolos if they eventually show up on UK retailer sites for barefoot shoes.
Wear a lot of Xero shoes over that of vivo's.
Right on!
Another shoe that is about to be sent over thanks mate
Hope you dig whatever ones you pick!
Have you tried Splay Athletics shoes? I LOVE them. Wear them at the gym and at work. I have a pair of vivos and vibrams as well
I have not!
Might be able to go TTS with your 12.5 in the Tolos 2.0 from what the difference spec sheets say. Hope you do a review if you get a new pair of the Tolos 2.0s. thx!
I actually got some in. Was waiting till the Avancus 1.5 show up this week to do a comparison.
Awesome. Looking forward to it!
been using primus lite 3s for just about a year for training and walking in every day. the shoeaces SUCK, I should have replaced them sooner, basically you need a double knot or it'll be undone very quickly. Also the mesh on the top (especially at the sides) tends to deteriorate as time goes on. Wish it was a normal price, like 40$ for a pair
Thanks for the tip about the laces!
I’ll wait for whatever those new shoes are that David Woolson is using
Yeah have been talking to him as well!
Look cool however I can’t get past the white on white. Also hate shoes with white soles they get dirty quick!
They do make different colors!
Waiting on that Pepin Fast db review!
This week lol
Is either shoe good for doing goblet squats standing on a slant board (i.e., do they lock your feet in place well enough to avoid jamming your toes against the front of the shoe)? Thanks.
I find both are comfortable for this.
Without any ankle support, any issues with the the feet sliding in the shoe?Like in a wide stance squat or sumo DL?
I don't pull sumo so can't really comment, but Dan Grigsby and Jamal Browner both pull sumo in the Vivos.
Flat laces make the Vivo so much more wearable
Prob will go that route once these wear!
I tried a couple sizes of Primus Lites- the toes roll up when they’re a tad small.
Do the Tolos have the same feel? Or are they flatter, further to the front?
I didn’t get that feeling from either tbh!
Solution to your issue with your untied laces just change the laces that is all
I did the double loop trick mentioned below and it's worked well too.
How do these compare to the barefoot ursus from Chris duffin
I like these much better. The Barefoot ones for me are a pain to get on and off and feel more like a slipper when wearing.
Which shoe has the thinner sole? I'd be using these as a deadlift shoe mostly.
Both feel similar
How do you like these shoes vs slippers/ Notorious Lifters?
Copy and pasting from another response I just left: I still like my Gen 2 (non sumo) slippers. I never really liked any of the newer ones b/c the sidewalls from the soles were built up too much for my liking and made the shoes feel narrower. Also didn't like some of the newer straps. I still wear mine but wanted something a bit more shoe like.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks, and thank you for the fantastic videos / info. Happy New year.
Off topic question but what green shorts were you wearing in some of the clips?
They're Ten Thousand Tactical Shorts, 7" w/liner. They're pricey, but they're really nice and have a lifetime warranty. I've bought lots of shorts for this company over the last year and I think the tactical ones are my favorite.
@@BasementBrandon thanks I’ll check them out. I like the look. You prefer the liner vs no liner?
@@douglowry7382 I do. I like the extra bulk and they're not the annoyingly long liners that stick out below the short.
@@BasementBrandon Reviews on good gym clothing would be nice if you have time for some videos on that. I only have the Foundation short and it's nice, will check out the Tactical.
I wear Nike Frees for training, curious how these compare.
Nice clip of the kiddo, I bet he loves that.
I have some Nike Frees and don't love them for training. Sole is thicker and squishier than I like and I find Nikes to be narrow.
Are those the primes lite 3 or 2. Can’t tell the difference
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@@BasementBrandon have you own the 2s prior? Any significant difference. If its not notable I might as well try to find a pair on revivo
@@Aguynearu I have not!
Just FYI to anyone thinking about making the switch to barefoot shoes -- I am due for surgery due to chronic pain after wearing barefoot shoes for 2 years. My podiatrist is saying the likely cause was the shoes themselves.
Concrete is hard folks, walking on it barefoot is not a good idea.
Hmmm I've been wearing minimal shoes in my every day life for around that long and haven't had any issues yet 🤞
He may have gone "cold turkey" into barefoot shoes and not done a proper transition
LOL never ever respond to DMs asking for feet pics.... too creepy!
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The BALLISTIC TRAINERS from GoRuck are the best training shoes.
Would like to hear your thoughts as to why? They remind me of Nike MetCons or Reebok Nanos. Not something I like lifting in.
@@BasementBrandon for general training I believe is the best. But for powerlifting I still believe barefoot is the only way to go.
Wrestling shoes, guys. Stop making this complicated for yourselves. This company and many others have created a brand off a problem that never existed.
Not the same. Wrestling shoes are very narrow compared to vivo. Huge difference
“My” only issue is that wrestling shoes are typically narrow. If you get some with wider toe box, they’re a bit more expensive (basically in the range of Tolos and Vivos).
I’ve owned and worn them. Too narrow and toe is typically turned up.
Not grippy enough for benching
Yeah if you like destroying your feet by wearing narrow crap get wrestling shoes. smh. Give barefoot shoes a try you'll change your tune really fast.