Something i do on guitars: -hi pass them. Roll off anything below 100hz or so. -send the soundinto the distortion/amp with lots of mids , then scoop the mids to taste on the amp. It adds good bite, thickness, and harmonics in the hi mids. - Dont use too much distortion. Hit strings harder and with more precision. Less distortion makes them sound bigger and less fizzy. - Play the seperate L and R guitars tight! - Eq (only minor eq move) the L and R guitars a bit different from eachother. It adds size and depth.
Not try to start a war here. This is an interesting topic and I just want to give my approach. 1. Yup filter out what you don't need. A highpass and lowpass filter is always on my guitars 2. Never tried dialing in extra mids into the amp to scoop them out later. Will give this a shot. 3. Yeah, too much distortion can create a fizzy mess. Hitting too hard can cause the notes to go sharp especially on the lower strings (unless you're on an Evertune bridge) so pick with appropriate force. 4. Yep with metal (especially those with technical stuff), double tracking has to be really tight. Doesn't matter if you have to do 100 takes - get it right, otherwise it'll be all mushy. 5. Yes. Different EQ moves on the L & R guitars can create separation and width. Nowadays, I begin with using different amp or cab sim on either side to get different tones from the get go so that I don't have to do much after recording.
@@Yanthungbemo also: try to not send too much low frequency into the distortionstage (amp or pedal). It makes the lows woofy and muddy. Less low freqs makes it tighter. 🤘💀🤘
@@jorrickthole6505 yeah that too! I'm not sure but I heard that the Mesa Boogie Mk series EQ knobs (TMB) are actually before the preamp. I've been thinking about trying this in the box with plugins.
That free Cab IR is the bomb! I have a Sonicake Matribox II - I was not impressed with any of the offerings on it and almost sent it back. After going through a lot of IR's, some I even paid for, it turns out your free IR is THE WINNER. BY FAR. Holy cow, that's some brutal tone I'm laying down tracks with right now. THANK YOU!
Automation is such an important subject and also underrated for so many beginners. Myself included back in the day. Automation does a lot more than plugins on a mix. Creating movement is the best way to have excitement.
Great channel with great useful tricks!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻 If you allow me a subject suggestion, one of the problems I’ve been trying to solve is: masking on the rhythm guitars (when hardpanned) ... Mosts hints I find on CZcams are: record both sides with different guitars, pickups or amps, but sometimes it’s not possible. We’ve got what we’ve got. Also tried some fancy midside eq tricks or a Slapback Delay, but I couldn’t make it sound good (most of time I get another problem: phasing). I know there’s always gonna be some masking when you check in mono, but would you have a efficient trick to reduce the problem? Is there a video about it in your channel? Thank you and congratulations!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I watched a couple of your videos when I was starting out with recording at home. I don't know why the hell I'm not subscribed to you. Gonna rectify that now! 🤟🏻
Excellent video brother. Automation was definitely an eye-opener for me. It’s literally the key to get most of the way to a professional sound in my opinion. And what you said at the end is so true, Focus on the things that make your job easier not harder. Automate some volume, don’t start using sidechain compression to duck your rhythm guitar like I did in the past LOL. 🤦🏻😂
Great tip as ever dude, not tried the 75% pan yet although only one mix where I had one guitar running might give it a try out on that although I did like it as hard panned
Mmm, the tip about reducing the panning on guitars playing alone sounded pretty good, it has always been annoying to me when a guitar doesn't sound along with the other one. Btw, I think this is one tip you mentioned before, but: Mixing the bass properly. In Rock and Metal, Bass and Guitars are like siblings, if one sounds awful, the other one will follow.
I have yet to find other videos on youtube for mixing metal, as good as these ones!! Keep em coming!! I still can't wait to see your approach on proper editing!? Thanks again!
The more I learn, the more I notice all the Mixing tricks in stereo wizardry. I really enjoy the tricks on late 60s albums... The Beatles / Hendrix, where the vocals exist hard L while the rest of the band exist hard R...Yeah its not as huge sounding as modern standards, but it feels like more of a "personal" experience, if that makes any sense... I don't enjoy the new generic stereo approach where it just feels like there's a slight delay / coloration between L/R with vocals down the middle...IDK perhaps things are just to "Polished" now days 😁
My biggest struggle with guitars is : how to get rid of the nasty fizz in the high end without it sounding muffled ? I use narrow bands to EQ some frequencies I can clearly identify, but it can quickly become a rabbit hole, or going overboard with too deep or too many cuts that there's no more presence left - because my ears get focused on the fizz and tend to be oversensitive to it. I guess practice has made me better at it, but it's still a big challenge for me. That ties right in with tip #4 : rolling off the high end indeed automatically sends things into the background (and conversely), I haven't looked into the details but it seems to me it has to do with the physics of hgh frequencies diffusing first as they cross the air. As a result, our eas have learned to associate distant sounds with less high frequency content. I found this nice plugin called Panagement that does that nicely for you and has a bunch of other options to control the source in space. It's not even an expensive mystical plugin, it's simple, pretty cheap /has a free version, and can come really handy.
I keep things as simple as possible and a solid impulse response will remedy that fizz problem. The fizz problem exists with real amps as well when the wrong cab/mic placement is being used.
@@FrightboxRecording I have a bunch of decent IR's but you have to load a new one everytime you cant to change position or distance or other settings. So it's hard to tweak around. Nowadays I use BIAS Amp sims (real amps are not practical for me and as you demonstrated, not a necessity anymore) and I moved to this precisely so I could chose the mic placement. But even then, I find there's still some cleaning up to do; mic placement will define the overall level of frequencies above 2-3k (among other things) , but not tackle any local peaks. I hear he term resonance used for these, but I'm wondering what exactly resonates. You probably know this.
Great tips as always! Sometimes I struggle with my guitars almost dissapearing in mono, it rarely happens but when it happens it's a real pain. I solved it with diferent amp settings and IRs for the L and R tracks, but it would be cool if you had any advice on that topic. Greetings from Chile!
Little by little my mixes are improving, and I attribute much of that to "boring" tips like these. Thank you! If you guys would like to hear my latest creation click on my JN icon! Keep rocking friends!
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Is this going to work in reaper and what is the title of the sample song?
@@alvincreatives3974 you can use any IR loader in Reaper to load these in
@@the.brad.thomas yeah I tried it with stl ir and it did work thanks 👌👌👌
This is THE metal mixing channel on YT. To the point and no bull.... My god I learn so much. Thanks man.
For sure. Applying Bobby's techniques will improve pretty much any mix.
I prefer koehler
So stoked to hear that, Michael!
I've always thought that the simplest tools were always the most effective. I try to keep everything as basic as possible in my mid-fi mixes.
You've become my biggest music production inspiration in less than a week. Thank you so much.
Something i do on guitars:
-hi pass them. Roll off anything below 100hz or so.
-send the soundinto the distortion/amp with lots of mids , then scoop the mids to taste on the amp. It adds good bite, thickness, and harmonics in the hi mids.
- Dont use too much distortion. Hit strings harder and with more precision. Less distortion makes them sound bigger and less fizzy.
- Play the seperate L and R guitars tight!
- Eq (only minor eq move) the L and R guitars a bit different from eachother. It adds size and depth.
Not try to start a war here. This is an interesting topic and I just want to give my approach.
1. Yup filter out what you don't need. A highpass and lowpass filter is always on my guitars
2. Never tried dialing in extra mids into the amp to scoop them out later. Will give this a shot.
3. Yeah, too much distortion can create a fizzy mess. Hitting too hard can cause the notes to go sharp especially on the lower strings (unless you're on an Evertune bridge) so pick with appropriate force.
4. Yep with metal (especially those with technical stuff), double tracking has to be really tight. Doesn't matter if you have to do 100 takes - get it right, otherwise it'll be all mushy.
5. Yes. Different EQ moves on the L & R guitars can create separation and width. Nowadays, I begin with using different amp or cab sim on either side to get different tones from the get go so that I don't have to do much after recording.
@@Yanthungbemo also: try to not send too much low frequency into the distortionstage (amp or pedal). It makes the lows woofy and muddy. Less low freqs makes it tighter. 🤘💀🤘
@@jorrickthole6505 yeah that too! I'm not sure but I heard that the Mesa Boogie Mk series EQ knobs (TMB) are actually before the preamp. I've been thinking about trying this in the box with plugins.
That free Cab IR is the bomb! I have a Sonicake Matribox II - I was not impressed with any of the offerings on it and almost sent it back. After going through a lot of IR's, some I even paid for, it turns out your free IR is THE WINNER. BY FAR. Holy cow, that's some brutal tone I'm laying down tracks with right now. THANK YOU!
Automation is such an important subject and also underrated for so many beginners.
Myself included back in the day.
Automation does a lot more than plugins on a mix.
Creating movement is the best way to have excitement.
I found pure gold today - instantly subbed! Good job, mate!
You are right I didn't notice the delay of the solo.. it was so horrible that my mind just blocked it.
Uuuu that kick... sounds awesome! Great tips! Thanks!
one of the most helpful channel on tube! simple and clear! thx as always Bobby!
My pleasure Mr. Jesus!
Thanks for all the tips, your channel is amazing.
Do a video on mastering versus mixing. Can you also touch on saturation to making mixes sounding wider?
I love this channel so much! Thanks Bobby for all the great content and information!!!
Great channel with great useful tricks!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻 If you allow me a subject suggestion, one of the problems I’ve been trying to solve is: masking on the rhythm guitars (when hardpanned) ... Mosts hints I find on CZcams are: record both sides with different guitars, pickups or amps, but sometimes it’s not possible. We’ve got what we’ve got. Also tried some fancy midside eq tricks or a Slapback Delay, but I couldn’t make it sound good (most of time I get another problem: phasing). I know there’s always gonna be some masking when you check in mono, but would you have a efficient trick to reduce the problem? Is there a video about it in your channel? Thank you and congratulations!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Gonna be doing a vid on this in the near future...stay tuned!
Great. A new video.
Just made food and this pops up. Now I know I'll enjoy my food even more.
Hell yeah, thanks for watching!
I watched a couple of your videos when I was starting out with recording at home. I don't know why the hell I'm not subscribed to you. Gonna rectify that now! 🤟🏻
Excellent video brother. Automation was definitely an eye-opener for me. It’s literally the key to get most of the way to a professional sound in my opinion. And what you said at the end is so true, Focus on the things that make your job easier not harder. Automate some volume, don’t start using sidechain compression to duck your rhythm guitar like I did in the past LOL. 🤦🏻😂
thanks a lot for the panning trick =D
Great tip as ever dude, not tried the 75% pan yet although only one mix where I had one guitar running might give it a try out on that although I did like it as hard panned
I do from time to time as well! Depends on my mood.
Thanks again for the easy to understand tutorials,you have made something I thought I'd never wrap my dumb head around make sense,cheers
Good stuff Bro, ty
Mmm, the tip about reducing the panning on guitars playing alone sounded pretty good, it has always been annoying to me when a guitar doesn't sound along with the other one.
Btw, I think this is one tip you mentioned before, but: Mixing the bass properly. In Rock and Metal, Bass and Guitars are like siblings, if one sounds awful, the other one will follow.
This tricks even works on synths! Thanks!
I have yet to find other videos on youtube for mixing metal, as good as these ones!! Keep em coming!! I still can't wait to see your approach on proper editing!?
Thanks again!
Stay tuned, Mark!
cool stuff man, no bs
Dude , this is amazing , thank you so much !
Thanks man
That song is killer awesome tips as usual bobby
amazing video dude! you rock!
Glad you dug it, David!
The more I learn, the more I notice all the Mixing tricks in stereo wizardry. I really enjoy the tricks on late 60s albums... The Beatles / Hendrix, where the vocals exist hard L while the rest of the band exist hard R...Yeah its not as huge sounding as modern standards, but it feels like more of a "personal" experience, if that makes any sense... I don't enjoy the new generic stereo approach where it just feels like there's a slight delay / coloration between L/R with vocals down the middle...IDK perhaps things are just to "Polished" now days 😁
My biggest struggle with guitars is : how to get rid of the nasty fizz in the high end without it sounding muffled ? I use narrow bands to EQ some frequencies I can clearly identify, but it can quickly become a rabbit hole, or going overboard with too deep or too many cuts that there's no more presence left - because my ears get focused on the fizz and tend to be oversensitive to it. I guess practice has made me better at it, but it's still a big challenge for me.
That ties right in with tip #4 : rolling off the high end indeed automatically sends things into the background (and conversely), I haven't looked into the details but it seems to me it has to do with the physics of hgh frequencies diffusing first as they cross the air. As a result, our eas have learned to associate distant sounds with less high frequency content. I found this nice plugin called Panagement that does that nicely for you and has a bunch of other options to control the source in space. It's not even an expensive mystical plugin, it's simple, pretty cheap /has a free version, and can come really handy.
I keep things as simple as possible and a solid impulse response will remedy that fizz problem. The fizz problem exists with real amps as well when the wrong cab/mic placement is being used.
@@FrightboxRecording I have a bunch of decent IR's but you have to load a new one everytime you cant to change position or distance or other settings. So it's hard to tweak around. Nowadays I use BIAS Amp sims (real amps are not practical for me and as you demonstrated, not a necessity anymore) and I moved to this precisely so I could chose the mic placement. But even then, I find there's still some cleaning up to do; mic placement will define the overall level of frequencies above 2-3k (among other things) , but not tackle any local peaks. I hear he term resonance used for these, but I'm wondering what exactly resonates. You probably know this.
What is your thought about lowpassing the guitars only on the sides or mid? IMO it will give a better result in some cases, do you agree?
Learning much from you Bobby! Thank you so much for all of your wonderful tips
Thanks for watching, Alexey!
@@FrightboxRecording always my friend! Always! 😀👍
looking at your faders, I just realized how much headroom you have on those, -19 DB?
For your first tip, do you think sidechain compression (with a long release time) would be a good idea? 🤔
Don't go to the automation realm kids ! It's a way of no return ! Very nice tricks !!!
Automation is my favorite part of mixing these days! I wish had gotten into the hobbit sooner.
Great tips as always! Sometimes I struggle with my guitars almost dissapearing in mono, it rarely happens but when it happens it's a real pain. I solved it with diferent amp settings and IRs for the L and R tracks, but it would be cool if you had any advice on that topic. Greetings from Chile!
In all honesty, I don't worry about mono too much.
Little by little my mixes are improving, and I attribute much of that to "boring" tips like these. Thank you! If you guys would like to hear my latest creation click on my JN icon! Keep rocking friends!
Yes sir! A great mix is exciting, NOT the next 10 million cheap bullshit plugins.