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Wyrmwood Modular Game Table Review
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- After having it for over 6 months, here are my thoughts on whether the Modular Game Table by Wyrmwood is worth it. This video is not a paid promotion, I was not given this table or anything else from Wyrmwood for this video. The thoughts expressed here are my own.
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Something for potential buyers don't let the $6k stop you from looking. The Black Walnut table is $3525 at medium size. Where as Elm/Maple is $1350. Something like Elm/Maple will be around $3000 for the Table, Toppers, Topper Block, and accessories shown. I'd be difficult to hit $6000 going Elm/Maple even adding on many many accessories in those woods. Just something to keep in mind.
That’s a great point as well! I hope I didn’t seem like I thought the table is overpriced. I think it’s a great value. It may be expensive, but you definitely get what you pay for. And there are far cheaper options, especially if you just get a base table and wait to buy accessories till later
Not to mention most of the money you will spend is on the optional accessories.
This is the one thing people need to consider when they pick their wood. My wife OK'd the purchase, and we can afford to go for the more expensive woods, but the accessories are where it will cost you. We both like the walnut, especially the rustic walnut (which is a bit cheaper). However, when you factor in all the accessories and the topper block, and you want to match woods (which we do), the walnut accessories are much more expensive than the elm. It will be even worse if you go with the exotics and want to match. We eventually decided to go with the rustic elm and use the savings over the rustic walnut to spend on more accessories.
Anyone curious, the wait many people experienced on the first kickstarter was due to wyrmwood waiting on machines to arrive and quicken their production process (machines hindered also due to covid) now that the company has finished the initial kickstarter and recieved all of the machines, their through put should be far more efficent. Great review of the table.
(P.S. wyrmwoods vlog entitled "Wyrmlife" documenting their design and manufacturing process is extremely entertaining and informative for potential customers. Just something to consider for other possible backers!)
Thank you for clarifying, that's a great point! Their ability to produce new tables has vastly improved, and watching the kickstarter updates, they have definitely worked hard to meet the demand. But seeing how the new KS already has over 5000 backers(wow!), I wanted to make sure people understand that they will be in for a bit of a wait :)
Most of the wait was due to them massively overestimating how much tables they could reasonably produce in a month. They presently ship ~400 tables per month. The initial kickstarter had waves in excess of 1000 backers (which may represent more than one table).
And also learning and making mistakes with those machines
@@syntaxlost9239 I was on the original KS and watched while they opened that. I was thinking the whole time that they were going to screw themselves with over estimating the throughput they could achieve. I get doing that though there were a lot of people balking at the projected wait time so artificially making that lower I would assume brought in more customers. Really happy with it in the end though it's a niiiice table.
Fellow MGT owner here. Love my table. I'm always excited to have people over, it's always easy to swap between gaming and eating, and I'm glad the table is ethically made in the US by a team of experts. WW works hard to make sure your product and experience are perfect.
I also know this recession is poorly timed for their MGT pipeline and I wish them all the best through this time of uncertainty.
The fact that it’s ethically and American made is a huge plus. I should’ve talked about that in the video. Great point!
Great review! I appreciated that you include both good and bad experiences and offer advice on how to avoid the bad ones or what to expect. The only thing i think could be added is the starting price of the cheapest table, since wood selection has a big impact on it and the possibility for the table to grow in the future makes it easier to buy the smallest one if it is all you can afford
Thank you! And that is a very good point. I tried to mention the $700 starting price of the new table, but I could’ve gone into more depth.
Awesome review of the table! I'm still waiting for mine to even be shipped from that first Kickstarter (International shipping was delayed several times). Really hope to get it soon!
I spent around $2500 on mine and got mine a year and a half ago. I have loved the table and we will have it for decades to come.
don’t forget to mention the amazing finish which tends to resist scratching and denting and that the packaging was better than anything i’ve ever seen and that the topper block now has accessories that can be purchased to make it useful when not holding the toppers.
Excellent video - thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Once you pick a size the biggest part of the cost is the choice of wood. It's worth pointing out that you can mix and match your woods to control some of those costs (and add a little customization to your table). You can get the table in Walnut and the toppers in Wenge. You can mix and match any of the accessories the same way. I actually got most of my accessories in less expensive woods to keep the cost down. They still look great and have the same build quality.
I got my table last month and I absolutely love it. It is well worth the cost. This is a piece of furniture I'll keep for a long time. I'm currently looking over the accessories being offered in the new Kickstarter to see what might work for how I'm using the table.
Glad you love your table! I had considered mixing and matching woods myself, but I preferred the unified look in the end.
exactly. I got my maple lilliput with walnut topper, in addition to my maple medium mgt with maple topper.
Everything you make seems to be very high quality, whther its maps or videos. I can tell you get a little nervous and feel that you need guidance from some sort of script or bullet points but let me tell you that you deserve more viewers and have nothing to be worried about.
A quality table for a quality man. Cheers
Very kind of you to say, thank you so much! I’m glad you like my content, and you can look forward to some more to come! I have a few videos I’m working on at the moment, including a review of the GM Screen by Wyrmwood as well.
@@dungeonartist I'm waiting on mine 🤞. Ill be anxiously awaiting your vids on accessories
One of the biggest tips that Doug gave on the Wyrmwood channel about getting one of these tables was that it's a marathon, not a sprint. By the table first, and the accessories later or vice versa. No need to buy everything all at once. And that's exactly what I'm gonna do.
That is an excellent strategy. Starting with the base table and adding accessories is perfect. The only accessory I would say is a priority is the Topper Block if you’re getting toppers for your table. Without one, it’s likely that your toppers might get scratched
I bought my small MGT on the website for the Black Friday 2023 promotion and received it at the start of July 2024, so quite a bit quicker than your two years. But the prices have only gone up every Kickstarter, so I guess I got mine at a good time, but not the best time. And I was lucky enough to have originally ordered in elm, which I was able to upgrade to cherry for free. Maybe I should've paid for the discounted upgrade to black walnut instead, but now I feel better going for all cherry accessories.
And of course I love the table.
Beautiful table! Can you also share a little about your DM Screen? It looks awesome as well!
What size did you get? Is this the standard width medium length table or did you get a bigger one?
How does the Player Desk serve for Twilight Imperium player mats and pieces?
Thank u for the video
Also, Wyrmwood has a CZcams channel that acts as a vlog of the company's activity called "Wyrm Lyfe" that has many of the lead people at Wyrmwood in it. It's entertaining and informative if you're interested in the company or the products. Link to their channel below:
www.youtube.com/@WyrmwoodTV
Love Wyrm Lyfe! Very entertaining and well produced!
I made toppers for a year at Wyrmwood. These guys really care about the quality of work they put out. A1 company with some of the best craftsman in the business. Jay not Jason & Bennett hands down are the 2 most talented craftsman in the business. Their PR guy is a better craftsman than most
Does the center of the table bow or give at all? I've heard that the wargaming width tables had this problem with the plywood bottom.
We havn't had any problem with the one that we all play frosthaven on.
Thank you for your comment. I have not had this issues at all. Granted, I'm not standing on the middle of the plywood to find out, lol. But so far after hundreds of hours of playtime, including quite heavy and expansive games, I've had no issues. :)
Woodworker here. That sounds like a BS rumor to me. 1. Plywood is more stable than solid wood and is often used where wood movement could be an issue (like drawer bottoms, dresser backs, etc). 2. The source of any bowing would be along the rails, not the bottom. While possible, I doubt this is a problem due to the design and thickness of those rails.
@@Anthony-H thank you for offering your input! That’s really interesting. I hadn’t known plywood is so strong, but to confirm what you said, the plywood base of the table is very sturdy.
This may give you some answers czcams.com/video/fSDW_SPf8Ro/video.html
If you spill something does it leak through to the play area?
3:39 - Do people not store their accessories IN the table? Especially the rail accessories like cup holders and such. When game night is done, we just move all ours to the inside rail and put the toppers on. I get that's not really handy for Player Desks and such, but for 90% of the "fiddly bits" it works fine. The most commonly used ones we store on the ends so they're quickly accessible by lifting the end topper.
Thank you for the comment, and that is a great point. I do that with most of the small accessories. The images that I showed were more to showcase the inconvenience. I don't usually set them on the chair like that. But for the desks, and the game deck, I do find myself leaving them around because the games that I leave setup don't leave enough space for those in the vault.
I would love to see them come out with a storage option on the wall so I can hang up my desks. And I will definitely be trading out the Game Deck for a Hobby Vault.
@@dungeonartist I gotcha. The small rail accessories are the easiest to deal with, but yes, my Game Deck currently sits in my dining room while my SO puts together a giant puzzle. lol The bigger pieces are hard to deal with. Hopefully Ed's simple Player Desk hanger gets developed out soon. Seems like an easy win.
@@dungeonartist it does seem like they're working on developing this! Crazy Ed has been iterating on Wyrmlife
@@sindex was just about to mention that! Here's the link to the solution they're working on for the player desk czcams.com/video/34ZCTAxNJGU/video.html
@@LadyOrpheus oh! I would love that!! Especially since I have a couple more desks on the way from the fast pass accessories.
It's like i hear me reading sleeping stories to my kids
Wouldn’t each removable component fit inside the vault when not in use? As long as you it isn’t filled with a paused game I suppose
They do. Which is a good way to store it, but I mostly have a game setup inside the vault when not in use. That is a good point that I should've brought up, thank you!
That Blade Runner poster is sick
Thank you! :)
The thing you haven’t mentioned in the “modular” feature is that it’s only Modular if Wyrmwood continues to produce in the wood you purchased.
There are a few of us who have espresso stain and ours will not be modular.
I do think ours is worth the cost and I love it!
Excellent point - I wonder if they would be willing to sell you bare wood parts so you could stain yourself (if that interested you)...
That is a great point I hadn’t considered. In that case, I would consider reaching out to customer service and seeing if there is an option for you. Maybe they could upgrade your table to a different wood option entirely, or something? I can’t say for certain, but it would be worth a try. Their customer service team is wonderful.
I'm sure they'll offer a upgrade wood package if that's something you wouldn't mind. I've seen a bunch of coworkers while I worked there build mismatched wood mgt's & they all looked awesome. As long as Ian & Doug have control you'll always experience good customer service
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What I find funny, the more expensive wood types, are actually my least favourite wood types..
So to me, it seems counter that the woods I want the most are the cheapest... That NEVER happens normally.
Will drinks spilled while dining go through to the boardgame underneath?
Idon't have the cash to buy something this eccentric for wargaming but they are Sweet! Great vid man!
What size is your table? It looks wide.
I backed mgt 2.0. Debating between small and medium.
Mine was the Wargaming. It’s a size from the original Kickstarter. It’s the wider width, but somewhere in between a medium and large in length. The closest equivalent of the new Kickstarter would be the Wide Large, or Wide Medium table.
Is it made in such a way that the liquid won't drop down into the game area if somebody spills a drink when it's set as a dinner table?
Yes. It has built in gaskets that make it spill resistant, but NOT spill proof.
Get yourself a displate metal piece of artwork that is something basic like a landscape and use that to put your magnetic rail accessories on a wall.
you have your game stored in the vault. The topper is on. A glass of water gets spilled. What happens to the water?
The toppers have gaskets to make it water resistant.
Wyrmwood did a spill test themselves on Wyrmlife and only a couple drops made it into the vault itself.
What size is this table?
How much space does TI4 take on your table? Do you think a standard medium MGT would fit a TI game?
A medium might be a tight fit. TI takes up most of my table, but that’s with a little bit of breathing room. For a medium, I might recommend player desks for several of the players so they have more space. It’s not impossible, but it would be tight. I hope that helps :)
What are the dimensions of your Wyrmwood table?
It is a Wargaming table. The outer dimensions are 57”x84”. The interior vault dimensions are 49”x76.5” :)
one important note the new kickstarter does not include this size, the width (57") is still available but its just now an option with Mini (24" formerly liliput) Small (48) Medium (72) and Large (96)... and the 84" rails are no longer sold... as a someone that also got BW WG from the first run I'm slightly concerned if something were to happen to my rail I will have to change size instead of just replacing the rail
For a review I’d hopped to get more info on how the table has worked for you for the 1/2 year or so you have had it. How has it held up?
How much has the walnut color faded ( as yours appears in a basement with little UV probably not much )
Which of the accessories have proven very useful and which see much less use?
That’s great feedback! I’ll definitely improve as I make more reviews and keep this in mind. For me, it has held up wonderfully. There are no noticeable scratches(I baby the hell out of it), the accessories all see some use. But I’d say the most are the cup holders by far, and the game deck for when I GM. The ones I use the least are probably the player desks(only a couple of my friends prefer them), and the charging accessory is great, but doesn’t see much use at my table, and I’ve found it’s easy to forget to charge the battery when it’s not in use.
I hope that helps!
My thought is that heirloom quality and build it yourself do not go together at all. My group commissioned a local furniture maker (well kinda local, 4 hours away) and we had a custom made solid cherry table ( 3.5' x 8') built with all the features of this table plus a few more for about 1/3 of the price. It's one solid piece of furniture that took a forklift to load into my trailer and 5 strong guys to get from the trailer into the house. I consider that to be a heirloom table. And since I picked it up, shipping was free. That said, the table itself here looks really nice. And as long as your happy with it, that's all that matters.
Do you have a link to a picture. I was thinking of going that route. I have 3 days to confirm a purchase…
@@Newt211 I'm on vacation right now and won't be able to get a photo until next Sunday. Sorry
@@AlarianDarkwind enjoy the vacation! No pic needed. Thank you for the response.
Is that black walnut?
yes
Yes, this table is in Black Walnut. I love the grain and texture. And the color is rich and vibrant. It’s in my basement as well, so there’s little exposure to UV light that would dull the color over time.
Wyrmwood had very limited shipping to Europe in the first KS, in the current one I think they have non. This has resulted in several simular products being developed by European furniture makers. These tables might be very good tables, but they are not Wyrmwood tables. So be awere of this.
It's cool, but i get more satisfaction making my own stuff. It took a long time to get all the necessary tools, and now I'm lacking time of course.
But most people aren't willing to drop quite as much money on tools, or have the time/knowhow and years of practise to work up to large scale and finely detailed projects. So honestly it's pricey, but to do similar yourself, you'll still approach the $1k mark in material costs alone, and be prepared to hit another 2-3k in the power tools you'll need to meet similar accuracy. So if you can afford it and have no interest in doing it yourself, I'd say it's worth it, as you would spend similar amounts or more on custom work, workout any of the features.
You could do the entire thing with hand tools and drop your cost on tools down to under 1k, but i suggest those people take a block of wood, and try smoothing it down evenly with a hand planer. Then imagine doing that over several pieces, on both sides, to make a 6x4 foot or larger surface.
“Paying only a fraction to convert” is a massive overstatement and the reason they don’t list pricing on conversion kits is often times it’s only slightly cheaper than buying the large table to begin with. And I mean SLIGHTLY. Otherwise great video.
I don't think I've spet $7000 total on the entire contents of my living room.
Huzzah
Always amzing how much people convince themselves how good Wyrmwood is to justify the price. Fact is, most quality wood workers will build an amazing table of better quality for far less. Most Wyrmwood is mass produced and it isn't anything special for build quality. Again, find a local wood worker and you can get a SIGNIFICANTLY better table at a FAR better price.
And can this phantom local woodworker guarantee the table will be compatible with everything else Wyrmwood offers? You're buying into an ecosystem here. Though I guess it's possible if you already have a small Wyrmwood table to point at and say "Make this but bigger."
@@triple_lei a good wood worker yes. But again, the ecosystem is MASSIVELY over priced in every respect. A table from wyrmwood with rails for pieces that will cost you $12-15k can easily be done for $4k with a good woodworker.
ya no1's gonna spend 7k on a board game table then say "no i regret it".
Bit of a critique on your review; it seems less "review" and more "here's a commercial for Wyrmwood's next Kickstarter campaign which you can go and back right now". I know you said you paid for your table, but there's certainly a lot of Kickstarter placement/promo scattered throughout your video.
That’s fair. I don’t have many criticisms of the product. I genuinely have loved it, and so that came across in the review. As far as talking about the Kickstarter, there’s a lot of new stuff that addressed a few of the issues that I had, so I wanted to make sure I talked about that. Thank you for your critique. I appreciate the input, and will try to improve on the next one. Cheers!
A fool and zir's money are soon parted.
Nope.
Not paying $6000 for a friggin table.
Don´t even consider Wyrmwood if you are not located in the US. International Backers have not receved their table yet from the last kickstarter.
I paid close to 4000 dollars for a similar table that is in this video. Wyrmwood held my money for 2 years, and then tried to charge me 4500 dollars for shipping to Iceland.
To add insult to injury, they could only refund me 90% after holding my money for 2 years. Shit Company.
You all got a lot of disposable income. Nice table but its a bit much.
Wyrmwood = overpriced gaming equipment made by stoners
You used the word bespoke to describe the table and then said the vault sets it apart from other gaming tables…
You don’t know what bespoke means and you clearly don’t know the rest of the market you are talking about.
Thank you for your critique. Bespoke doesn’t necessarily fit this table, since they’re modular in design. It would be more suitable to describe the Prophecy line that they offer, which are made to order and personalized for each customer. It just sounded right when I said it. But fair point.
The vault is certainly a staple of game tables, but if I could offer some correction, I said “the first feature that sets it apart from other tables” speaking about tables in general, not specifically game tables. Most tables(dining room in this case) do not have a vault.
Thanks for your comment, I appreciate every bit of feedback.
@robandtina man, way to be a douche lol
i mean bespoke means customized and you can create a table here with a bunch of different customizations, so i'm gonna go ahead and say bespoke works just fine here. but you go ahead and pretend like you're superior.