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FUN STORY: The last use of a Spitfire for combat purposes was at the end of the 1950s. There were border problems in Indonesia, and perhaps Indonesia would invade a territory administered by New Zealand. If that happened, the RAF would've deployed its Lightning jet fighters to the region. Indonesia was armed with Mustang piston-engined fighters. What was the best way for a Lightning to take on a P51? It was unwise for a Lightning to diminish its speed to that of a piston-engined fighter.
So the RAF carried out tests against some of its last Spitfires. The best way for the late-fifties heat-seeking missiles to get a lock was from underneath, where the heat of the radiators was easy to find. A Lightning would swoop below a P51, get a lock on the heat source and shoot its missile before zooming skywards again. By maintaining its high speed, the Lightning would never become vulnerable.
The border dispute came to nothing and the combat never happened.
@@raypurchase801. While the RAF stopped using the spitfire in the mid fifties, I think that you will find that the Irish Air Force used them until 1961...............
If you were being fair, and so that you could see which was the better plane, then you would’ve either changed the modern weapons on the A-10 C, for WWII weaponry, or you would have put modern weaponry(the A-10C’s Gatling) into the Mosquito, because it was/is more than capable of taking the modern rapid firing Gatling gun.............
Because the airframe of the Mosquito was capable of handling the shock from a rapid firing 6lb anti-tank gun, which it used against shipping, U-boats and tanks...........
So maybe you could make the changes, and see which is better when they are evenly matched, because I am sure that that would be far more entertaining..........
Ps, the Mosquito was by far the safest plane to fly in m, in WWII, and when it was matched with WWII planes, weaponry, then it was safest in the wooden wonder, but against modern weapons, with WWII weapons, then it’s just not fair, and in real life the Mosquitoes would just turn away.........
@@norrinradd3549 THANKS!
I was joking when I suggested this fight lmao
it was just insane enough to make it to the channel i guess.
@@GrowlingSidewinder pliz now we need F-18 vs I-16 or something like that xDDDDD
Edit: Stupid spanish corrector ugh
@@OjitosArt nah i16 vs f16
These are the ones I like the most and hope to see more 80s cheesy movie plot fights. 👍
A-10 vs BF-109
The Mosquito had actually a very strong airframe due to it being a composite mix of woods. It could take quite a bit of damage and still get home safely, and they could be repaired and patched up very easily and quickly. Don't underestimate the strength of wood.
Pure Churchillium
@@Treblaine xD
Not against incendiary rounds...
@@katanalx i doubt wood would burn at high speeds
@@SirCabooseCCCP With modern rounds, I believe it would... The bullets normally stay trapped in the wood because of the veins of the wood being crossed.
Skill is when you say you’re gonna take off the left wing and then actually take off the left wing. Well done.
Skill? Where?
Everywhere
@@theeltea no worries. We understan you wouldn't be able to recognise skill even when it takes your face off.
Seeing as you've never ever had any yourself to compare with...
@@theeltea lol jealous are we?
@@Zathaghil I assure you, I would take the face off of these aces any day of the week on any DCS airframe. I suggest you get a few years of experience under your belt before you make glorious comments like this. :)
I'm sure many of you noticed I said the A10 was shooting APIT but as you noticed there was no tracer, The A-10 was shooting Armor Piecing incendiary only, no tracer.
Hey Side, its only me or i cant see the video in good quality? O.o
@UC233T6BEUVRRVW-Bn8y7zYQ Nice, thanks CZcams! xD
@@OjitosArt in the first minutes its locked for sd quality 😅
@@Northwish ahhhhh, ok. Thanks mate
J20 vs f22 BVR
I mean give the man credit for shooting 303's at an A-10 instead of giving up
I count it as the 'Last Great Act of Defiance'
Anything could damage the engines... :)
RULE 303
Fly the Tsetse Fly version of the mosquito - it had a 57mm anti tank canon with auto loader. Nothing to sneer at….
@@richardpoynton4026 Fair enough
Seeing the A-10's wing go by the cockpit just made me think of LongShot from the Hind fights: "Hey... That's supposed to be attached!"
The a10 just needs to let the mosquito get behind him and then dump flares.... it is made of wood ;)
With a steel skin :)
Hahaha this made me laugh way too much
I don't know why but this comment reminded me of a Japanese prototype air to air bomb were basically the pilot would fling a bomb at a formation of aircraft and it will explode midair rain fire on the other aircraft burning through the skin and burning the airframe underneath but because of how complicated was used it was used on ground targets instead
I really like the swapping planes format. As far as I can tell, you're a better DCS fighter pilot than everyone you fight So, swapping helps to see what the plane can do, and what is just you out-flying people.
A veneer mill in my hometown in Wisconsin manufactured some of the materials for the Mosquito. Their contribution to the war effort.
35% of the material going into the Haviland mosquito bomber was manufactured in Butternut WI
As one Mosquito pilot said; Let the others have the glory. We just get the job done.
the 4 x 20 mm canon are so close together that gettin a hit usually means getting 2-4 rounds into the target...the .303 are also tight, but against a hardened target like A-10, well... BTW, the wooden part of the Mosquito lets it soak up quite a bit of fire without fatal damage, as long as the rounds go right through, without exploding...because it's wood, the 30 mm canon fuses may not trigger the explosive or incendiary rounds...
Makes some sense for the HE rounds - but the API in the Hawg is passive, it works on the physics of DU being pyrophoric in air when divided into a fine dust. (Which happens when it hits something, it sheds material as a fine dust, which auto ignites in an oxygen rich atmosphere. ) no fuse needed to light a DU 30mm penetrator round. It just needs to hit something and shed a bit of material... and foomp! It can start a fire. Nifty yeah? Downside is the dust is also toxic... And mildly radioactive.
Its also self sharpening - as that material erodes off and catches fire - the tip of the penetrator forages a new sharp tip as it goes.
But that pyrophoric property is why its so superior as an armor penetrator to less reactive, hard, heavy metals like tungsten... tungsten won't burn like DU does.
I'm wondering if ED modelled that - a lot of HE rounds in WWII wouldn't detonate simply because the wood was not hard enough to trip the fuses.
Also as wood is lighter but less strong the spars were thicker, meaning if a bullet went through it there was other material so it didn't just snap.
Wood Splinters.
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@@stinkyfungus I'm not too sure if the wood used in Mossie is hard enough to actually provide enough resistance for that.
The way the Mosquito was spinning after that first round was quite something
Can you imagine parachuting out only to be caught in the center of your own plane’s death spiral, falling down directly onto the crash site of your plane? Crazy
@@beng7844 that plane was spinning at 13 Gs lol
The last round feels like classical videogames where you need to flight the endboss which has a lots and lots of HP, but is not very agile. It tests your patience🤣
I clicked expecting at least one wing to come off, but I wasn't expecting it to belong to the A-10... The Mossie is a monster.
Nah mosquitoe isn't a monster in real life and in dcs the A10 won 2 rounds lol
@@KFLY007 you almost made me think you were for real for a second saying the mosquito wasn’t a monster nice joke
@@danielflinton1899 he's just ones of those a10 whit knights
@@mutingp I mean I absolutely adore the A-10, but I'm never going to deny another aircraft it's due. The Mossie was a definite monster in it's time, and probably wouldn't be useless even today. The fighter variant with four 20mm cannons AND four machine guns would be devastating regardless.
Sadly my fire local fire station and crews attended the double fatal crash of the last flying Mosquito in the UK when it crashed at the Barton Air Show in Greater Manchester. It failed to climb out of a loop and dived into a wooded area on Barton Moss. I also attended a the fatal crash of P51 many years before at an earlier Barton Air Show. The show was discontinued after the last crash and now only consists of static displays.
Get the "Donkey" vs modern jets. It would be awesome to see that nifty thing against a Viper or a Hornet 😃
Extend from the merge, climb, reverse, and boom it. It's pretty fragile, 2-3 hits will destroy it. Pretty hopeless fight there...
The Hornet was much more of a performance fighter than the Mosquito, as good as the M
Mosquito was. Eric "Winkle" Brown held the Hornet in very high esteem.
Donkey vs Imperial Star Destroyer please!
@@nordoceltic7225 Even then, you just stall/energy trap the I-16 or gun it down outside its effective range. Even if the I-16 attempted to maneuver, it'd be moving so slowly relative to the jet that it would never really shoot out of the HUD. That sort of tight turning circle that propeller driven aircraft tend to have really doesn't matter when they're so slow that they can't dodge anyways.
So I wouldn't even say 9/10, I'd say 10/10. The jet only loses if the pilot makes a serious error.
@@christurnbull9543 YES! The modern jet fighter Hornet versus the Hornet from the late 1940s!
But no missiles allowed.
These scenarios are what I have always wanted to see. I just have to see the A-10 Thunderbolt II vs the (X)P72 Super Thunderbolt. Contra rotating props, 4-30mm cannon and the 3600HP R4360. this would be the ultimate Thunderbolt comparison!!
Instructor: So how have you prepared for this fight with the Mosquito?
A-10 pilot: I'm just going to wing it.
Dang, those Hispanos are vicious in this game, in contrary to another game... (Ahem, War Thunder). Very nice fights though, impressed with the Mosquito thus far.
Dear god I hate the Hispanos in war thunder.
And also its maneuverable, like everyone said it was… especially those who flew it in real life… also contrary to…. ahem…. The other game…
War Thunder nerfs and buffs shit to make everything relatively equal. I wouldn't take much in War Thunder to be truly accurate
@@howardman3926 In Sim, Hispanos are about as damaging as every other 20mm cannon with comparable HE-filler. The reason why it seems less powerful in ARB or AAB is because mouse aiming allows for far greater range and shot dispersion (because you are firing with a high turn-rate the bullets are correspondingly further apart in impact) and also because up until recently SAPI had a fuze with a delay that was too high. All these combine to far less shells on target than in a more realistic setting like DCS or IL-2 (or even, WT sim)
I actually really like the 30mm Hispanos on the P39 in WT, its at least 2-3 free kills in air RB with those cannons and a little patience!
Don't know if there's a model of the Hornet, the slightly smaller, considerably faster (2 x 2000+hp vs. 2 x 1700hp, with contra-rotating props), better-armed and generally much improved successor to the Mosquito, which didn't quite arrive in time for WWII. That might be a fun fight with the A10.
I was thinking hawker typhoon or tempest . Much faster at low - medium altitude than the mossie with 4 x 20mm . Plus lots of power from the naiper H engine .
The Hornet did not feature conta rotating props, it used RR Griffon engines of around 2,300hp.
Some very qualified pilots said it was the best prop they ever flew.
@@jimdavis8391 idk if you know this bud but the Griffon engine had a modification for contra rotation the RR Griffon 83
@@jimdavis8391 Hornet didn't use Griffon. It used Merlin, a late model with revised radiators to keep the frontal profile as small as possible.
I think that the Mosquito FB Mk XVIII (sometimes known as the Tsetse) , that had a modified QF 6-pounder (57 mm) anti-tank gun fitted with an auto-loader would be absolutely devastating against a A-10. They even fitted a 96 mm calibre QF 32-pounder to the mosquito 😳
It was fairly obvious that you were going for his left wing. But the fact that you called it, and just shot 2 tracers and led it perfectly to the wing joint was rather epic.
I would like to admit that it was somewhat lucky lol but I’ll take it.
Me: I should go sleep.
GS: It is not time yet! 😂
Almost 5am here... so true!
Interesting would be a Dogfight between the Tucano and the A-10 and the MB-339 and the A-10
Mb339 vs a10 has been done
@@khwaac Ah thanks! Must look it up!
Tucano vs. I-16
Right, so once a Stuka G module comes out I bet someone would ask to pit it against the A-10 again. After all, A-10 could be considered its successor even having used Rudel's data during development.
My father used to fly navigator in Mosquito's in the 50's, great aircraft.
It is my perception that you are often just a fraction of a second late on your gun snap opportunities. Not just this vid but a lot of them.
Right after I say that you nailed it on his wing root lol. Good job
That delay seems really tough
When the Mosy said to the A-10....I am your father :)
11:30
Literal tank buster weapons mounted on planes: *"Sorry? I can't hear you over the sound of my 75mm cannon destroying tanks!"*
The mosquito was an absolutely beautiful killing machine in its day. Although terribly out gunned, out armoured, would have loved to see how a real mosquito pilot would have reacted.
Mosquito vs a '51 and '47 please, separately. Loving the content.
Yes, against a 51 would be epic
@@Pab1oRomirez why?
You should try the Mosquito FB XVIII with the 57mm/6pounder Molins gun firing APDS . This version was also called the Tsetse.
I just had to hit play when I saw this was up. Now to kick back with my coffee and enjoy! :)
The beaufighter Actually had more guns and performed a similar role early in the war. It had 4 20 mm cannon on the fuselage and 3 .303 machine guns in each wing.
2:49 I love how you just go into a vertical for a solid minute or so casually looking around for him and not stalling out lol
I still can't get over the meme-worthiness of using an anti-armor cannon on aircraft.
I have personally watched a mock dogfight between a P-47 and an A-10 near Chino's Planes of Fame many moons ago. Despite the A-10 approaching the size and with the planform of a B-25, the P-47 could NOT shake the A-10 of its tail.
It’s funny that some later models of the mosquito are faster in a Straight line then the A10🤣🤣
I wonder about the climb rate
@@PerSon-xg3zr probably better still
I was hoping you were going to do this exact fight soon and you did not disappoint!
Really enjoying watching this channel!
I haven't checked this but back in the day one of my flying instructors was an ex dambusters and pathfinder squadron pilots.
The main thing I remember was him saying the mossie could carry effectively the same bombload as the B17 to Germany!
But 2 crew and almost immune to interception verses B17 with 10(?) Crew and lots of guns but slow.
Completely different approach to do same task....
Food for thought.....
I like how you say "If one of those 30 mm hits me..." At a firing rate of 60 rounds per second, I don't think it is actually possible for an A-10 to hit a target with a single bullet.
Funny.. There's been much talk about A-10's future. I think the idea Pentagon had about the F-35 taking over that task has vanished. So.. Why not a new Mosquito? With the current light weight materials, compact/powerful turboprops etc available .. A solid landing gear for dirt strip operations. A.. If a Super Tucano were a F-16..this would be a F-15. Just a thought 🙃
I would say if we do go to a new design, it'll have to follow the same mission as the A-10 does, rather then combining missions that don't really need to be combined.
Why would the A10 need to be replaced? Like, sure, replace the individual planes in the fleet because they're no doubt getting old, but for close air support the A10 is still fantastic. Update some things in the design perhaps. New avionics, perhaps better materials, if the "better materials" are in fact better for the situation, maybe updated engines? idk.
It’s all about the pilot 95% of the time. I wish Growling Sidewinder had a clone so we truest can see which plane vs plane is the best. Bravo to this Ace Pilot!
So used to seeing rocket chairs, the oldschool ejection of just noping out the window catches you off guard ^.^
Have you ever tried the F-14 vs Zero match-up like in the iconic movie The Final Countdown?
Its just like putting Urkel in the ring with Mike Tyson!!
The death spiral at 1:15 was a nice added touch.
Hilarious matchup. But also, entertaining and thanks for the share. You crazy Cat.
The last fight was very interesting, very entertaining to watch!
11:35 P-68 Black Widow had 4 20mm and 4 50cal I think she has the honor of most powerful guns on a fighter plane of ww2
Nope, He219 used 4 30mm and 2 20mm, far more deadly than that. And it's P-61
I would think the Me-262 four 30mmm would be more power. The P-68 50 cal are turrents so I don't think that counts otherwise the B-29 could be considered the most poewrful
P-61 Black Widow.
Ironically, there was a P-68 but it was a twin-engined, civilian observation type aircraft....not a WWII heavy nightfighter.
this is the equivalent of using an 1700's (American revolution era) battleship vs a ww2 battleship
You realize that the American revolution was in the 1700 right? The civil war was in the 1800
No it feels like the Yamato losing to WW1 Battleship like the USS Texas. The Texas can win if the Yamato screws up big time.
@@zach6076 thanks
I would seriously like to see another take on a modern aircraft carrier somehow finding its way into WW2 that would be more realistic than "The Final Countdown". So many people today have no idea that while technology is great, it still comes down to pilot skill and physics.
True, but the Zeros had not the semblance of armor and might stuffer structural damage from the jet wash alone.
In a dogfight, that's true. But AMRAAMs would take out the WWII aircraft from BVR. Most of these fun "old vs new" dogfight videos are guns-only for a reason. If you do F-22 vs a WWII aircraft, and give the F-22 all its BVR capabilities, it would be a very short video.
Give John Birmingham's final impact series a read. Same premise as the movie but taken more seriously
Worked on a Mosquito PR41 A52-319 at Hawker de havilland Australia in the apprentice training hanger many years ago in the 1980s, she ended up in the war memorial Canberra Australia.
So at this point, I guess there's nothing left but to pit the Mosquito against the Raptor.
Never thought Id saw something rip an A-10s wing off
You are a mad lad, my friend.
I'm surprised with all that wood that the mosquito didn't just disintegrate into toothpicks!
Always good to hear that one of our current CAS aircraft is more capable than 80ish year old CAS aircraft, though the A-10 is pushing 50 years old itself!
Quite interesting, I have to say! Thank you, kindly!
interesting fight, proves success is in the hand of the pilots capability. “You can be my wingman anytime” Sidewinder.
Great video GS!! keep em coming.
The people spoke, and you delivered my friend, thank you. 👏👏
I can't wait to see you attacking a couple U boat dockyards in the Mozi
The bail-out animation in the mosquito is just beautiful
Mossie vs P51 is what we all want to see now
I wanna see the Frogfoot getting zergrushed by the mosquito now
The mossie could fly and fight with one engine. Also the mossie had 303 and 20 mm cannon as basic weapon. All bulites went through except a tiny piece of armour behind pilot. It makes no sense when you look at the mossie on paper yet when first flown it just amazed everyone. 🧐👏👏👏
That feeling when you think the enemy is passing your 9 o'clock but then realize it's your own wing.
2:54 that was the most polite "how dare you" I've heard in my life
Best fight I have seen so far!
The Mosquito is the most fun you can have in DCS - seriously...it's great fun! I love ground attacks and this plane is great for it.
Any kind of ground attack in the Channel map is Nirvana if your system can handle it...it's that good!
This makes me curious. I wonder how the Messerschmitt 262 would fair against the A-10? FOUR 30mm cannons, vs 30mm gatling their both twin engine jets, etc etc. On paper its almost a fair fight. Love the content, Stay smooth!
A10 would win easily
In the Air Superiority/Air strike/the speed of Heat game series the 4 x 30mm cannon of the Hunter were rated the same as the A-10 (12) though of course it had nowhere near the same amount of ammo and most definitely not expected to take as much damage as our beloved warthog.
11:29 I think that title belongs to the Me 262 or even some of the Me 410 or Bf 110 variants
True true
I think the floating hud made more of a difference than the actual aircraft
The “Mossie” was a favourite of RAF pilots. It had a great reputation for returning aircrews home alive.
end of round one sounded like I was watching some other kind of video...Well done parting him of his left wing
Can't wait to see how this one turns out!
Bristol Beaufighter packs even more firepower than the Mosquito... 6 303's and 4 hispanos
"oh he's shooting at me... how dare he." 👌 APIT is a nice choice IMO for the Mosquito, the glue they used to laminate the plywood structure will go up like a torch!
Was not expecting the mosquito to have a chance, more ww2 planes vs the A10!
awesome! you gotta do a w.w2 warbird vs jets. . howabout a spit or a p51 ,mossie or a tempest vs an f18 hornet. infact it could become like a challenge series. thats gotta be the ultimate test of skill for a kill
Although not really in the same role as the Mosquito the Northrup P-63 Black Widow had a heaver selection of weapons. Also, the He 219 Uhu could throw more material down range than the Mosquito.
A master class, as always.
A10 is such a LEGENDARY BEAST
I had to look at the title twice to understand what the mad man was actually gonna do.
Hitler and Herman Goering were actually impressed with the Mosquito... so much so that Hitler tried to have a German equivalent made...(FW Ta 154)... in the event you (by chance) didn't already know...
Superior piloting skills wins the fight. Good job!
Cockfighting a random IKEA drawer to a custom made steel computer table is never gonna be ok
1st round I actually thought it was a wing strike at first.....doesn't get much more up-close and personal than that!
Dog fight in the context of chewing on the opponents neck.
How about attempting to recreate the only prop kill against a jet in Vietnam- the A-1 Skyraider vs MiG 17!
A truly historical and tremendous dogfight!
That was awesome to watch
Very Elegant and Inteligent Mosquito Dogfights.
Have you done a dogfight Mosquito vs P-38 Lightning? If not, are you planning to do one?
"Hi! On the next episode we have Polikarpov I-16 against a F/A-18 Hornet!"
Growling Sidewinder - answering my questions before I even thought of them.....
The 1st person bail out animation is prety cool! This game is gorgeous! Were toi using vr or track ir there? I'd Guess track ir... Greetings from Britanny, France!
The mosquito is impressive! I am not necessarily surprised. It was an excellent aircraft and because it was made mostly from wood had a smaller radar cross section making it harder to detect.
First stealth plane, imagine if it was made earlier instead of half way through the war.....
@@lesliegrayson1722 the allies would have already had the fighter that could escort the bombers to Berlin and back!!
@@jkeelsnc It was used most effectively towards the end of the war, night bombing and raiding areas quickly and then out at low level. They could have decimated the occupation of France by air with out having to confront the fighters. It was the F-117night hawk of its time. wars have been won with such leaps of technology even in recent times. Russia may never have happened. England may have bombed Germany all on its own. Who knows.
I just came across this vid and was like whhhaaattt?!?! I have to watch it, honestly I hope the just because it was a bad ass plane back when it was in service in my opinion
It's cool seeing prop planes battle jets.