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I’m 75, a Vietnam Veteran, lifelong Kentuckian, and it has never crossed my mind to become a conservative or Republican. Almost everything I believe in aligns with a progressive agenda. I have never fallen down the Fox News rabbit hole like many from my state and generation.
I'm born, raised, and live in Kentucky, as well. We, on the left are a little out numbered in KY.
Duane...Total & Permanent Disabled USAF Vietnam Veteran...and I agree with you 100%.
Thank you all for your service
I love how the elder BeauPeeps are chiming in on this. And thank you for your service. I'm sorry we were so awful when you came home.
I was born in Louisville, and am a Marine Corps dis vet. Everyone around me was so red I could never find a date. So I moved to Colorado. 😂 The difference is like night and day. 💙✌🏼
I grew up in the GOP and voted red for 20 years. I'm a democratic socialist now.
Howdy comrade. 😊
Me too. I'm 41 now, and have voted republican because my family is republican. After everything that happened since 2020, I'm never voting republican again. I'm kind of surprised my parents are still flying their "Trump 2020" flag out in the yard.
I was an old school Democrat supporter until 2016 and I just couldn`t go with Hillary and I decided that I liked the more progressive Sanders and their way and polices, and have been a progressive ever since.
F Yeah DSA all the way!
As a Democratic Socialist from Norway I have to remind you all Democratic Socialist's are the actual centrist party...not communists. Not even close. Communism and fascism are the extremes and very similar(communism in practice not theory). Democratic socialism takes the best of both system's such as Medicare for all, the military or the fire Department, which are socialist and communist idea's. As for Fascism we use Capitalism as a driving force for innovation and inspiration. America is very close to fascism now. Not only politically but economically. There is no competition and little to no standards which a capitalist society needs to survive. Monopolies owned by an investor class suck up all the money and destroy any competition or innovation. The way to fix that isn't voting...is unionizing. That's our real power and why they fight against it so hard. Making more Unions would do more than voting...but you can do both.
Semper Fi
One of my 80 yo patients told me that he voted for a candidate endorsed by his children. His explanation “ I am not going to drag my kids back to my days. I want to make their world better by voting who they think can achieve it for them “. Such selflessness and wisdom brought tears to my eyes.
That depends, of course, upon whom his children voted for - it could have been Donald J. Trump, God help us all.
That gives me hope. When the Brexit vote was going down, my cousin and her husband were voting for. We’re in our 60s. I asked how her children were voting and they were voting against. I asked why she would vote to deny them the future they want, which is European. They still voted for. I voted against Brexist because it was the right thing to do but it bothered me that old farts like me didn’t listen to the youth.
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That is actually amazing.. still, I'd like to have heard his actual views on the world.. I bet with that kind of attitude, he has a lot to share..
@@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS ❤️ for a lot of people it's hard to be in contact with the youngest generation of voters.. it makes it harder to connect to one another.. I'm glad to see you do have that connection.. it speaks for you ❤️
I'm 42 and I'm getting more liberal as I age. Growing up, I listened to my father's conservative views (he's been watching Fox News since it first started). The problem was, he sent me to a private school with people from various ethnicities and religions (it was okay for him, though, since they all had money) but that taught me to treat all backgrounds with respect. Then my husband and I moved to several different states, exposing us to new situations and realizing that no matter where we went, people blamed their problems on some "other" group when really everyone had the same problems caused by the general failures of our capitalist society. Add on to that the fact that I have a good, professional job and our family is still in mountains of debt made me realize even more that society needs a major overhaul. If we're struggling on my salary, how much worse is it for people on minimum wage?
I used to be pro-life, but how can we force people to bear a child that they can't afford to raise unless we change things so they can afford it? I used to be ambivalent about LGBT issues, more of a "don't ask, don't tell" mindset, but now I see how harmful it can be to force people to hide who they are. I used to follow the line of "immigrants are okay if they are legal", but now I see how difficult the country makes it for some people to be legal, when my ancestors just got off a boat and everything was fine. I have also learned a lot more about the real history of the US, and how we have constantly failed to live up to the supposed ideals of the country's founding.
I guess my point is, it's easy for a person's beliefs to stagnate if they don't get out of their hometown bubble and have some real interactions with people who are different from them.
I feel exactly the same and went through almost the same path as you did, I guess this is what the right calls WOKE lol and I am 100% OK with that.
And I make 6 figures and live almost paycheck to paycheck, I have had the same thoughts about how people survive on less if it's hard for me at my salary.
I don't know how my 18yo son is supposed to be able to afford a place of his own when a single bedroom apartment is nearly $2k in my area.
Crazy.
Best comment I have read. 💗
Damn well said!
Brilliantly said. The big WE has to stand up and look around to make sure the majority are doing ok, because if they aren't, we ALL aren't. 'No "man" is an island.' Do we actually know what that means? We all stand or fall as a team.
I'm 55 and I've become more progressive as I've gotten older. Much is to do with the progressive Episcopalian church which talks Christ's teachings to love and care one another, do not judge others, etc. As well as marrying into a wonderfully inclusive and accepting family, which has helped me to open my eyes to how everyone is every bit to raise a loving family no matter their sexual orientation choice of life partner. As well as being far more accepting of others of other skin colors, cultures, and nationality. And believe me, I know I am a far better person, friend and family member because I allowed myself to open myself to new and accepting ways of thinking and treating others different from myself.
Almost 50 and more experienced, more aware, and far more progressive.
same here👍
Exactly, if anything, one gets more compassionate and understanding.
Same with me
I’ve gotten more liberal as I get older. In my 20s, I voted conservative. In my 40s…much more liberal/progressive.
Me too!
Me too
Me too. 64 and a big Bernie fan.
Democrats are not progressive, tho.
Same here. Started out as one of Reagan's Young Republicans and am now a TYT progressive.
I’m 80 and was a Republican until Trump. And after watching the Republican Party support MAGA policies, I realize that I can’t ever vote Republican again.
Good on you, Lynne!
My 90 year old father is right there with you.
Thank you for having integrity. I'm certain you and I would disagree on this issue or that. It's been so hard to find people who didn't just play follow the leader with Trump despite him being the polar opposite of the principles they've claimed they were living/voting by for as long as I can remember. So again, thank you!
Thank God you are screwed on right. Kudos 😁.
Whoo hoo! Old ladies represent! We can learn new tricks, can't we?
"The older I get the less tolerance I have for intolerance."
Which is why re-considering segregation for society makes sense eh ?
A segregation of Ideology . . . because a portion of society flat out refuse to listen just because.
Hence they need to be educated with hands on experience for who they are willing to listen to and use as socio-political allies. Finding out what sort of societal agreements are possible when their group has near a 90% population density of people believing in conspiracy theories.
The fact that question was even typed out shocks me, who tf would want to re-consider segregation? Oh I know! Racists…
@@ogbm4338 It is not racist if the segregation is based on the words coming out of your mouth.
@@dreonphlatamus Wouldn’t that exacerbate the problem further by making people even more radical on either side? Because that way you’re in an echo chamber not just online like we unfortunately are now due to algorithms, but in real life too... I think there’s already enough division and anger between parties... lumping us into seperate physical groups doesn’t sound like a great way to make us more tolerant of eachother...
@@dreonphlatamus That literally doesn’t make sense? What are you talking about the words coming out of my mouth?
Almost 57, a veteran, and I’m definitely progressive. The older I get, the more liberal I become. I’ve always accepted people for who they were. Now, I’m the one who speaks up when someone else is out of line. I take no crap from no one. I’ve even had to stand up to my most racist, bullying uncle in his own home. It’s family legend now. I’m the only one that’s ever called him out and made him back down. Bright blessings to all! 💙💙💙
I am 57 , male and less conservative as I grow older. I was a conservative republican my whole adult life until I woke up.
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Bright blessings to you!
Bright blessings and thank you for your service, especially that epic battle with your uncle!
Wish I could adopt you into my big mouthed self-righteous family to tell them all off.
I’m 67 and I get more progressive every day! I used to consider myself a moderate but as I began to pay more attention, I knew it was time to take a stand for everyday folks!
Me too!
I am sick and watch Fox to raise my blood pressure and get a stroke or heart attack too end the pain.
I was always progressive, but, the older I get, the more active I get: as a designer of information for users of software and hardware, I have learned you can actually shape and redefine systems in an iterative manner: there's no excuse to blame it all on 'the system' if you can be a small but active part of improvement.
Whishing everyone the best is not a pipedream, but something to work towards
thank you ma'am
Yes
"They said I'd become more conservative as I grew older. What they meant was that I'd become greedier and more paranoid as I grew richer. What they didn't understand was that no one gets richer anymore."
And if you do, you're a piece of crap.
Yo.
If anything, I think I've gotten less greedy.
Where once I'd have let a $15 loan eat at my brain for days on end as a teen, now I shrug off a hundred and tell them to pay me whatever whenever.
Course I do have more money, but I sincerely doubt that's more than like 20% of that decision
I just don't care about money anymore because I actually have enough to pay for me needs and some of my cheaper wants.
But I still gotta save for many months to get enough together for a down payment on a used car.
So I'm basically in the middle. Too poor for money to be liberating, and too wealthy to have to determine which bills get paid on time... most of the time anyway.
A hundred bucks here or there ain't much in that perspective, and if someone needs it more than me I'd feel like trash not contributing at least a little if I'm able.
I'm 32. 14 yrs ago my politics was far more conservative than what it is today. But then I became a History major. The funny thing about reading and learning history is that at least for me it has made me move further Left as I read got older. The more I read, the further to the Left I move.
You see why the anti-intellectualism movement on the conservative side of politics is downright insidious, if people can't compare their lives they don't understand they don't have as much freedom as they are told. And unable to see life as a interconnected web of events and choices instead of a bleak hallway decorated in propaganda from cradle to grave as they wish were true. I'm glad there are still people who value history for it's lessons, history doesn't repeat but it does rhyme after all.
As a 48 year old, I can confirm and further say... It doesn't get any better. And the more you history, the further left you lean...unless your psychotic that is. 😊
As a barely boomer, the older I get, the more progressive I get. Some would say radical, as I participated in the Occupy Wall Street movement. I stayed at the original camp for three months, knitting and talking about my grandkids and how I wanted a better country for them. I'm very proud of what I accomplished
Thank you so much! It’s shocking to me how many grandparents / old people don’t want to see a better world for their kids and just look out for themselves.
So then, you were against the system. And now, you're totally in for it. Who da f do you think is running this country? What happened that made you cuck to the system?
I became a leftist because the Occupy Wall St. And i'm not even american.
Is a barely boomer someone who is born in the early 60s? Or someone on the other side who is older than a boomer?
I didn't know barely boomer was an expression, I like it.
I'm 70 and I actually have become much more liberal than i was in my 20's, 30's, 40's. It's called becoming more mentally mature and gaining some much earned wisdom.
Terry, the reason I've become far more progressive and left leaning as I age is because I've been watching the wealthy steal everybody else's lunch for 40 years! ( and PS, some idiot is trying to troll us. *Ignore it*. Never reply to trolls. Never!)
I look back in horror at some of the things I thought in my 20s. I can't imagine how I'm going to feel about now in 30 years. Fuck...
I am 65 and as well become more progressive. I grew a conscience.
Me, too!
Yeah agree same here I'm in my sixties and get more liberal as I age also
My mother is 85 and liberal. My grandfather was still a liberal at 101. I'm 63 and less conservative every year. Dobbs angered me, I remember when Roe v Wade was passed. Women in the 60's and 70's fought hard for the freedoms that we got. They will go away if they aren't kept at the forefront. In the 60's girls had to wear a dress to school every day. By the end of the 60's we were allowed to wear pants on Fridays and then whenever. It was ridiculous, especially on the playground and in cold weather. My mother couldn't get a credit card until the 70's. When I went to college there were 2 girls who were in engineering and it was a big deal.
My mother told me she couldn't buy a house, rent an apartment as a single woman, or have a bank account unless a man cosigned for her. She said it was a control thing, and lots of men lost their ever loving minds when their abused wives left because women didn't need them to survive anymore.
Mom at 85 and grandfather only 101?
@@avinashreji60 She said "was" still a liberal at 101. Sounds to me like he passed some time ago. Being a father at 16, though, isn't unheard of.
@@redfoshee2691 This story is what frustrates me when, especially women, don't vote. People have died for a cause. Whom are we to waste it?!?
@@redfoshee2691 Yes! By the early 70s I could have my own bank account, rent my own apartment, get birth control all by my silly self, and there were even clinics and doctors who charged on a sliding scale dependent on income! And they didn't have to hire a staff to deal with insurance, so they could afford to. Those were the days...
My mother is 91. I’m 67. I’ve been involved in working toward equality for all people for 40 years. Mom has always been conservative but after watching you for the past ~3years she has completely changed her position. Well, you and a granddaughter who came out to her almost 10 years ago. Never discount the love of a grandparent for their grandchildren.
And then there's those of us who have to come out to our grandchildren.
@@Whistlewalk Better late than never.
wow this is honestly touching
@@Whistlewalk Congratulations though! Better late than never. Glad you get to stay true to yourself now🙏🏼 You get to set an example of acceptance and self-love to your loved ones
I have an 87 year old cousin that lives with me. He's had his mind opened by these videos.
When I was growing up in the 1950's, our family had it OK but lived week-to-week financially. We had no car, no air conditioning; none of the amenities you'd think are indispensable today. When I had to have an operation as a young kid, my Mom had to work out a payment plan with the hospital (no nest egg, no insurance). I was lucky enough to compete and get into a great technical high school and proceed onto a tuition-free city college (the yearly administration fee was $34!). Out of college, I got a great job and eventually became financially comfortable. But NONE of that would've happened without free education opportunities and financial assistance when needed. As I got older and looked back, I realized that EVERYONE should at least have the opportunities that I had.
Well said. There's no excuse for America not having universal health care and free education from Kindergarten through 4 yrs of college or technical school. See our European counterparts#Theprogressiveshaveitright!
I completely agree an I Kno that life I wasn't as lucky. My home mom left to me caught fire cuz of irresponsible ppl... I had no more & for home owners insurance an then I had to cancel it. Medicine or food, lights, gas essential stuff. So been homeless living in a motel at 50.00 a day ... 350.00 a week .. can't save . I have no kitchen.. with corporations raising prices.. I m sure they haven't a clue what living paycheck to paycheck is or day to day. An week to week...
Thanks for your comment it gives me hope .. things are looking up.. hardwork pays off.. always!! ✌🏼💗😊⛵
your story about needing an operation reminded me of a quote by the great Tommy Douglas, who was instrumental in bringing universal healthcare to Canada. When he was a child, he needed an operation on his leg that his parents couldn't afford, and a surgeon kindly offered to do it pro-bono.
"I felt that no boy should have to depend either for his leg or his life upon the ability of his parents to raise enough money to bring a first-class surgeon to his bedside. And I think it was out of this experience, not at the moment consciously, but through the years, I came to believe that health services ought not to have a price tag on them, and that people should be able to get whatever health services they require irrespective of their individual capacity to pay." ~ Tommy Douglas
@@johnroberson1662 except the UK. For some reason our government has been supported while it removed free university education and its now dismantling our health care system.
@@johnroberson1662 As your European counterpart I'd like to point out that we have to go a lot further than the current status quo in Europe... It's not heaven on earth over here, It's marginally less screwed up than over in the US but that's no where near good. I'd say we should look at the Nordic countries, and make their systems better.
My stepdad has told me I'm crazy for my "progressive agenda" and I'm going to regret it when I'm older because I'll "see the error of (my) ways and get more conservative" and I keep trying to tell him that's not how this works... Thanks for explaining this so well.
Yeah, my Dad uses that same expression . Wants to help me see 'the error of my ways' ! Hahaha!!
A perfect example of gaslighting
I am opposite with my children. I have been going more and more liberal and am progressive now and a few of my kids are the opposite.
@@JCcreates927 also not easy
Ask your dad how he feels about republicans cutting his social security and Medicare benefits so they can give tax cuts to people who earn 4x what he earns.
A relative tried the old “if you’re young and conservative you have no heart, if you’re old and liberal you have no brain,” on me recently to explain why, in my 40s now, I supposedly need to go conservative. I pointed out he’s Christian and asked him whether Christ called him to have a ‘heart’ or to have a ‘brain.’
That aphorism implies that old people are heartless because they get money. What a condemnation of wealth.
@@tahiyamarome To be fair, the general trend is that richer people tend to vote conservative.
😂 That’s awesome. Good on you.
Very good. God wants your Heart, not your head. Brilliant Ideology. Evangelical preachers could learn from your understanding of God, and the biblical message.
I'm betting your relative is older. You had a great rebuttal. Here's another one. As we get older, we don't age like fine wine. Our muscles start aching. Our bones start creaking. And for old conservatives, you're seeing brain deterioration. Look at how stupid they are. Not one of them is capable of learning new things or self learning. They're just good robots rather than real human beings.
Look at your body. Think about when you were in college and you pulled late nights and allnighters and the next day, nothing. You bounced out of that bed like a well rested little bunny. Well, as you get older, it's harder. A late night means your miserable the next day and you start looking at mattresses and you understand why mattress stores exist. Sleeps important. You start being more careful how you move your body and you'll set up your project so that it won't hurt you.
Well, what do you think is happening in that brain? Most people don't read. So they're not engaging their brains. Most people don't like learning because they got their degree. Most people aren't active so no aerobic blood flow to the brain. That brain is atrophying inside their skulls. It's not a healthy brain anymore. It's like a morbidly obese patient that can't walk 10 feet without gasping for breath. That's what a conservative's brain is like.
Look at the conservative. Look at how shallow their thinking is. How intellectually lazy they are as they parrot slogans. Look at their emotional approach to any issue rather than the analytical critical thinking brain. Look at their debates. Who do these geniuses go up against? Children. They're preferred debating style is gish galloping and lying. They don't go after the adults, especially smart ones because smart adults will rip a conservative argument and stomp it on the ground.
Being old is not some magical virtue. In a first world society such as the US which has a generally stable political system and society, decent medical access points, food, public education, it would be very hard to not get old. Even in the middle ages, it was mostly childhood diseases that were the cause of the mortality. If you could get to young adulthood (and you weren't a woman or you weren't at war or there was a plague), you had a strong chance of hitting the 60s and 70s . Being old is not a virtue. Age is just a number.
I'm firmly convinced that if we have this correlation with age and conservatism 1-wealth accumulation but also 2- brain deterioration. I mean, look at the boomers. They were exposed to high lead levels. They were raised in a permissive conformist society. They were raised to believe in magic. They've lived in their safe little bubbles by virtue of being a massive demographic. They're violent as would be expected from their lead exposure and their passive from their conformist monkey demographic. I routinely question the capabilities of older people who are conservative. We all should. (Look, these losers couldn't even look up when the boomers demographic is generally regarded. That's why they claim credit for what their parents generation did. That's a clear sign of mental deterioration.)
And look at your older relative. This relative came away from the Christian teachings of " love your neighbor as yourself" " give everything away and pick up the cross", " turn the other cheek" and thought " fiscal conservatism" . That is my proof that older people aren't necessarily smarter or wise people. We shouldn't respect age. It's just a number. Instead, we should raise the bar. If you're hitting 70 and you can't speak 3 languages and explain how the government works, and have a deep academic understanding of your religious faith traditions and can do a bit of calculus (it's not that hard. ) and be a decent human being. Most geezers failed. They are unworthy of respect beyond the basic respect you would give as an acknowledgement to a fellow human being such as a newborn or a 5 year old
My mom is approaching 80 and she’s as progressive as they get. Stands outside on voting day and pickets for the dems candidate and brings soup for all her fellow line standers. She doesn’t get more progressive with age, she just gets more fierce and holds longer rants 😅❤
If she's picketing for the dems, she's not as progressive as they get, since the Democratic Party is conservative to centrist. It just barely squeaks into the left with its most radical members. Still, good for her for at least being at a solid middle point vs. on the far right. I wish there were a mainstream socialist party in the U.S., so I could feel better about voting, but the hypercapitalistic political lobby would have a conniption.
@@collinbeal I thought that was a little funny, yeah. "As progressive as you can get" doesn't really align with a party who maintains the status quo.
I would love to meet her
Hell no! My grandmother who is 89 and there is nothing conservative about her. She is strong and smart woman. She saw a lot of injustices throughout her life and her wisdom is immense.
I am 65 & have gotten more open minded & liberal over the years.
My moms about the same age, i hope you talk to her still, God Bless, Her mother is an immigrant from Germany cause if MIDGET status. I enjoy reading your post. We're the 3rd generation in the USA support any immigrants. thank you.
My mom at 84 became a die hard Bernie Saunders supporter ! Rip mom , a true Irish fighter .
My Dad was 77 when he died in 2007. If he was alive in 2016, I am positive he would have been a die hard "Bernie Bro".
Yep my mother and grandmother survived WW2, along with 4 aunts and one uncle , 2 other uncles were hung by the Nazis and my moms dad. They offered no resistance and were assured that they just needed support. They didn't keep their word. A lot of Greeks died. Any way, mom and american dad moved us to the states. Listening to the stories first hand was horrible . Never again those fascit want to come they'll have a house to house battle. Believe that. Slava ukraine!❤
I've gotten much more liberal as I've gotten older & I'm 65. Always was very moderate & Independent. Trump made me a registered Democrat. CONServatives craziness made me far more Progressive & Liberal than ever.
Hooray for continuing to grow in the 2nd act of life. I love it!
Im 55 and I too have become a LOT more progressive.
Yes! Same here.
I registered Dem when President Obama ran and refused to vote Republican/conservative again since W and the Iraq war. That was my turning point and when I looked back on the decades of presidents and politics and seen the unhealthy and hypocritical path of the republican party as I recollected administrations from Nixon to Carter to Reagan to Bush to Clinton and back to Bush. I remember how the media crucified Carter and then shoved under the rug all the dirt of the Reagan administration. While at the same time saying how the media was liberal. I distinctly remember my brother who became brainwashed into the church he still attends saying that back then. The teaming of the Evilgelicals and conservative Catholics to the Republican party was sealed when the GOP decided they were 100% anti-abortion. Even though abortion was a bipartisan vote. That wasn't enough for the 2000's. The Republicans had to bring in the Nazi's and the "white nationalists" (same difference). They distanced themselves from their log cabin Republicans to court White Nationalists at their CPACS during the W administration. The writing was on the wall - it's been on the wall - since Nixon, a good friend of Roger Ailes and who Roger Stone is still a fanboy of. Boomers were duped for sure.
It was the opposite for me. I grew up in a high control Christian religion. As I left, and started to think for myself and see the hypocrisy, I started getting more and more progressive. Also, as an 'elder millennial'... I don't have all this money that GQPers insist that we have to be 'fiscally frugal with my wealth'. And to see them constantly trying to keep the working and middle classes poor, it's a wonder how some people keep voting them in.
Same.
I'm 55 and my parents had more at 20. Dems are the new Right and Progressives are the new Left. We don't need the Anti-American criminal GOP.
If you look at the areas with high GOP numbers there's almost always high degrees of income and educational inequality. There's also much higher prevalence of religious, specifically Christianity that goes along with it. Keep 'em poor, poorly educated, and as separate as possible.
Uhm, you're a millennial. Don't be coy with us, we all know you eat a dozen avocado sandwiches every single day!
"Elder millenial", haha! What does that make me? " People try to put us down, (talkin' bout my generation) Just because we get around... the things they do look awful cold... hope I die before I get old..."... Let's Play "What Tune is that Anyway"!!!
I am in my 70s. I have voted straight dem ticket since I first voted as an 18 y.o. in Michigan. Marched against Vietnam, Iraq (shock/awe) and Afghanistan, and for equal rights for people of color ( against segregation. Not all in my generation are racist or maga or q. I am not wealthy but I have found the more generous I am, the more I seem to have. I am so blessed and protected.
Beau. Thank you for sticking up for us seniors.
Same here. I have maybe voted a handful of times for Republicans. Of course they weren't as crazy as they tend to be now.
Thank you, Katie, for helping America be a better place to live in.
Thank you for all of this, people like you helped make this world a better place and definitely deserve more recognition for it
I think those of us on the left sometimes forget that there are _plenty_ of older progressive voters. Heck, Bernie Sanders, the most progressive major political figure of our time, is in his 80s now, and he absolutely hasn't gotten "more conservative" over time. Folks like you have absolutely helped shape the rights that many of us in marginalized groups currently enjoy (though many are under threat again).
I'm in my 40s and my parents are in their 70s. They're a lot like you in that they always fought for progressive causes throughout their lives, and raised their kids to do the same.
As others have said, thank you for leading the way for the rest of us.
So it is true that the Republican party has gotten crazier? It hasn't always been like this? Coming from a 22 year old
At 30 I was a conservative Republican, I am now a 60 year old vegan progressive.
For me the older I get the more compassionate I am to all beings.
Sounds familiar
Me too!
Same with me.
Being compassionate makes me feel happier. Hate is a terrible feeling.
As an 85 y. o. Texas I harken back to the Roosevelt and Truman and Johnson administrations and have just gotten more progressive over the years. We can do better!
I have always lived my life by something my farmer grandfather used to say (and was born in 1899 TBH) - "If we don't look out for one another, who will?"
78 here, former Texan. Getting older and more " lefty" every year. Joe Hill is my hero.
The republican party traded in Eisenhower for Ronald Reagan nonsense & been holding on to those ideas for far too long.
For me I’m still young & find my self getting more progressive.
My parents were Goldwater Republicans, imagine that! Yes, we can do better!!
Bless you
I knew a 93 year old WWII veteran who was cool with gays, gun control and didn’t like the ww2 German political party. He was an example of the greatest generation.
It is interesting that you mention the above. My late grandmother on my mum's side (British), was definitely quite progressive for her time in the 60s. She had a hair salon and used to be close to the gay community that sometimes frequented her business. I can remember my mum telling me something my late nan once told her as she was growing up in a time when gender equality was still a work in progress "make sure you're never beholden to a man and always have your own money".
My Nan was a strong woman and had a fierce temper (which my mum DEFINITELY inherited) when the need arose, but she was still quite a traditional lady at heart.
My best friend is 90 and as Progressive as they come.
Reminds me of my Dad. "I didn’t fight for the flag, I fought against fascism and racism." "The gays were some of the toughest guys I knew. Time they stopped having to hide - too many lowlives in power just want to keep the chance to blackmail them!"
Took care of two Gay WWII veterans and one Korean War Fighter Pilot. There have always been Gays in the military.
I'm a 41-year-old lower-middle class white small-town-born Kansan woman from a Southern Baptist extended family, with a Methodist minister father. I've voted in every election since I turned 18, I've never voted for a Republican, and I only get more radically progressive as I age.
I want the world to be a better place, where people don't have to go hungry, where kids don't have to worry about being shot at school, where everyone has personal bodily autonomy and privacy, where it doesn't matter what color your skin is or what language you speak at home or who you love or what genitals you have, *everyone* has access to safe housing, healthy food, clean air and water, quality healthcare, education, a fair wage in humane work conditions, a vote and representation in government, and equal justice under the law. If we're the greatest country in the history of the world, those things really shouldn't be that hard. And I think it's weird that that makes me some kind of radical progressive.
Beautiful reply! Have a wonderful day❣️
Exactly. We need more people like you in our world. Most of the comments on here are giving me more hope for humanity. ❤️
I’ll be voting red for all the same reasons that you vote blue
@@eazyb6450 meaning you're utterly incapable of critical thinking and researching the issues. That's some S-tier willful ignorance.
@@Thuazabi nah, it just means I have a far better understanding of how to actually solve issues.
I just turned 72 and I have become more liberal as I have aged. I think it's because I have opened my eyes to what is going on around me in society and want to see change within our society.
I'm 63 and am a liberal. I want my grandkids to love who they want and have control of their own bodies. Congress term limits need to be established. I am tired of old white men telling me what to think.
That was exactly it for me. I moved out of white suburbia to a diverse neighborhood, got some black friends and found out just how racist my northern, "liberal" city was. I would never have seen it had I not met people who were willing to share their experiences with me. And once you know, what kind of hard-hearted person would you have to be not to become a force for change?
My Mom went backwards,. I watched this woman who raised me to love everyone equally no matter the color of their skin become a racist old bat. Caveat: She had dementia and watched Fox News because of my brother. Also, most of my family have a tendency to be outliers in almost every statistic. I'm older now, but the way my views are going I'm pretty positive I'll be a full blown Anarcho-Communist by the time I retire 😄
Fox news has a sadly outsized influence in what people think it really shouldn't be allowed to call itself news at all even their actual news is incredibly biased.
My dad's going the same way
Not fun
I believe a lot about what you are saying but if a person who is progressive minded watches Fox News, they would stop watching Fox News.
There are people in this world who think they are owed for something.
And when they don’t get the life they thought they lived for, Fox News starts to look tempting
@@NotShowingOff dementia is powerful and terrible
I was raised a Leftist by my family, tho we didn't call ourselves that. I started working at a Queer, Leftist bookstore at 15 and was there for 14 years until we had no choice but to close. I've found that as i get older I've gotten more intolerant of people who believe in capitalism and social conservatism, and I have to remind myself of Michael Brooks' (Rest In Power) line, "Be kind to people, be ruthless to systems."
Love this!
So true. My mom always said don’t demean poor people, defeat poverty. Poverty, and allowing people to suffer within it, is the problem. You can apply that to many aspects of life.
I have that phrase on a T-shirt!
That's right, "Punch up, don't kick down!"
Too true, Beau! My Dad was a member of -- I won't call them "the Greatest Generation" -- the "Generation that Fought." He told me that I would become "more conservative" the older I got. However, as I have seen our rights being "eroded" by those who were supposed to be "defending our rights" as well as those of others and have met the ones we were supposed to be wary of, I have definitely moved away from the "right-wing"!
I'm 75, Liberal Leftist. I've voted Republican twice in my life..the 2 Bushes. I'm usually Independent, but registered Democrat this time.. and voted early absentee in Virginia. I will never vote Republican again.
My father was Greatest Generation. He was as progressive as they come and so were his brothers. Remember a TON of people were pro FDR during the WW2 era. He hated Trump with every fiber of his being.
Yep, don't think I ever forgave my dad for voting for Ronny Raygun. Mine told me this as well. I have never felt that MY rights were violated by others having their rights. I feel actually the opposite is true--if someone doesn't have rights their humanity is violated and it lessens the quality of life for everyone.
@@rickivansek830 Now I imagine a 90yo trying to cancel people on twitter for not putting pronouns in their bio.
My 99-year-old New Deal mom recently passed away. She left as a lifelong progressive.
Condolences. 💐
I've seen four of my close friends "become more conservative" after falling down the right-wing Grift-o-Sphere rabbit hole. Now I'm trying to gently help them understand what fascism is in the hopes they might wake up and recognize they're supporting it.
Sudden conversion may have been rare in previous eras, but social media radicalization has helped the far right recruitment effort more than any generational shift could in such a short amount of time.
…but so has the progressive movement; we have more power than ever before in US history.
If not for the internet, we would STILL be willfully ignorant to many problems.
Though the RW rabbit hole started out strong, only the good ideas stay on top, and now that daily life is on the internet, there’s gonna a fact checker in the comment proving conservatism is wrong.
They can’t isolate and control information anymore; they will have to play ball.
Yes, you make a very good point.. i know several people who have fallen down the fascist rabbit hole after being propagandized by Faux and other right wing sources.
See Beau's video on detrumpification. You have to give them an out and allow them to concede gracefully. It's terrifying when you see your values falling apart, and you realize that maybe you've been wrong.
People will get mad at me for saying this, but support for Fascism always goes up when poverty rates are bad, and the Middle Class is scared of being poor, or having to compete with upwardly mobile poor people.
At the same time, populism, often the violent or revolutionary kind, goes way way up during times of recession, like now and during 2009, and during 2022-2021.
But fascism ist Not conservative
My partner's Mississippi seminary school nephew invited us to his wedding using both names. We went as a couple while minding our southern manners. I said to Nephew: Thank you for including me. He said his generation doesn't care about such foolishness anymore.
I remember when my mom asked what I thought about gay marriage 20 years ago when I was in college. I said it was fine and not my business who someone loved. She said, 'I thought so. And I told your dad it's not going to matter to the next generation and he needed to wake up.' Happily he did. 😁 He is an open minded centrist and told me last week he's looking forward to voting for Mayor Pete for president one day... he never would have said that 20 years ago.
The billionaires who own the GOP are 70 to 90. And bizarrely out of touch and conservative. It’s part of the problem.
I went the other way. When I was young, I had my dad's politics ... my turning point was the hypocrisy during the Clinton impeachment hearings. I've been a left-leaning independent ever since. I'm fiscally centrist, but socially left leaning - especially after watching my dad (RIP) descend into angry, hate-fueled madness from years of Limbaugh, Beck, Dobbs, O'Rielley and Hannity, and towards the end ... a daily dose of Breitbart. I always say these people took my father away - but the reality was, I removed myself from his orbit. Here was a guy who had union jobs most of his life - did quite well - but always saw himself as something better ... those guys with the suits, playing golf on weekends... that was his club. The guys bitc*ing about undocumented immigrants, but still willing to close one eye and employ them to build their pool or fix their roof to brag about the deal they got. Incidentally, dad never played a round of golf in his life due to a bad back :D
Our subdivision is being expanded (eventually 98 more houses). Mine was the next-to-the last house, where the street ended at the woods. I’ve been watching progress. I would like to alter the big advertising sign by the highway to read “Our houses built by happy underpaid Mexican immigrants, using the cheapest materials we could find”.
Yes, and nowadays, nothing like those hypocrites working in a union shop with the pay and benefits but refusing to pay union dues! Scabs, all of them!
I, like you, become more liberal as time passes (I'm 64). I also had my parent's politics when I was young, but like me, they also became more liberal. For my dad, the turning point was when he went to Vietnam in his mid-30s.
@@tonyz766 🙂... my dad never went that far. He supported strikes and paid his dues - but he saw it more as a necessary evil - somehow below him (the peer pressure factor helped). If I ever went back to blue collar work (I used to be an electrician's apprentice), I would first look for union shops. My past experience with a non-union shop was disappointing. That shop never sent to training - anything I learned, I had to pick up fast from the journeyman I worked with - but they were way too salty and concerned with finishing and going on to the next job to do any kind of "knowledge transfer". Instead of learning about electrical theory, I mostly wound up digging conduit ditches for $5.50 an hour (min wage was about $3.25 at the time). My friends brother was in a union shop at the same time - he dug ditches too - but they sent him in for training to help him pass the board tests. He worked hard, did a lot of overtime and retired early to a ranch in Montana with its own airstrip (and plane to go with it). For all their faults (especially when it comes to seniority privilege) - unions offer a lot of advantages for trades people.
@@ivantuma7969 last I looked Ivan, our country has 862 billionaires, WTF, does anyone do with that? Just proof. The country would rather reward the investors over the workers, who also defend the country! Did Trump go to Vietnam, hell no, he was grabbing women by the crotch in nightclubs w/ Jeffrey Epstein. Yet, his lackeys think he is a tough guy! The brainwashing of the Right has been so successful, they think they can just overthrow an election and get away with it. So far, they have, Mr Garland! Shameful
I am 74 and totally gone liberal and will stay that way thank you.
I'm 70 years old. I started out progressive and I've never looked back. Love your messages. Thanks for all that you do.
100% I always thought growing up that my mom who was a Democrat was tolerant, accepting and progressive. When I was old enough to vote, I found more often then not I voted Democrat and though that makes sense since I'm my Mother's Daughter. Then Trump came around and I was shocked by how strongly she supported him! It took me a little while to realize that for the 80s she was tolerant, accepting and progressive but she hasn't changed since then while I have. Surprisingly my Dad who I never thought was on the same page as me and who had always been a Republican, he was not a fan of Trump, or if he was he at least had better sense then to try to convert me.
There are a ton of republicans who have been disgusted with trump tbh, it's even been cited as a major reason why biden won
Trump 2024 !!!!
I bought into a lot of the conservative mindset when I was a teenager. At 39, I'm a hardened Social Democrat. More 'lefty/progressive' than ever.
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Their propaganda game is top notch.
Has to be, the substance of their agenda is awful!
I’m 48 and getting more progressive every year. My dad has been telling me that would change for the past 20 years.
My mother told me in my teens as you get older you get more tolerant and understanding because you experience life and realize we all need grace. She was right. I am closing in on 70 and I am much changed from my teens. More tolerant , forgiving and accepting. I detest the policies and culture war garbage of the Republican party. I have changed with the times. Or was ahead of my time.
some people do but many shut down and become much less tolerant sadly
40 year old Marine Corps veteran. I have moved further and further left as I have gotten older. Started in my late 20s
My dad just turned 70 and my mom is 69. They have gotten more liberal and more political as they have paid attention to how the Republicans seek to harm the income and well being of the elderly, in addition to denying human beings basic human rights. My parents do not support bigots or hate groups so they have moved more definitively to the left.
My dad is 80 years old, we often talk politics. More often than not, we disagree. He always says "you'll change when you grow up" or "you'll understand when you grow up". He has been saying this to me since I was 15. I'm 43 now.
I'm 54 years old and went from hardcore conservative in my teens thru 40. In my 40s I drifted moderate/centrist. I became progressive in my late 40s and doubt I ever vote for another republican/conservative again.
I agree with you saying some folks evolve their views while others stagnate. I find the older I get the more I want to learn. Be it history, physics or philosophy, I love reading quality books and learning.
You’re my spitting image. I’m only sorry it took me so long to realize how fascinating and liberating it is to learn new things in so many diverse topics. It took me leaving the US to find that. Sadly, I’m now 68, with poor health and can’t do what I’d like to help others.
60 years old here, me too!
I was more conservative in my young adult years until I experienced the real world and jobs vs pay vs cost of living. Opened my eyes, I realized the struggle and how many factors play into having a decent lifestyle and it is not all about how hard you work. Many of the poor work the hardest and as my pay has increased, my overall workload has actually decreased.
I was talking to my friend the other night. Telling him about the numerous wierd experiences I didn't have words for as a kid that turned out to be trans people's experiences. I said I felt kind of stupid for not seeing it earlier. His reply really struck me though; "How would you have? We grew up in the Era of 'that's gay' ". I haven't used gay as an insult in probably decades now, not since I came to know better. I told him I don't want to see other kids go through that. No one deserves to have to hide in the closet.
I grew up in the same era but the really sad thing is that the Trans movement is the new right wing bigotry. The new intolerance.
When I lost my virginity to date rape in 1998 it was feminists who said men couldn't be raped, and that was legally true. The definition of rape at the time was " “the carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will.” It took 14 years to progress and in 2012 the "Office on violence against women changed the definition to this:
"“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
That's what the Trans movement accomplished, the removal of the word "female", suddenly my rape was legal because Jasmine tried to stick her finger up my behind without my permission. This year the CDC came out with these numbers:
"Each year, 1.92 million men are made to sexually penetrate, and 1.93 million women are victims of rape (3). In 82.6% of the “made to penetrate” cases, the perpetrator was a female (4)."
They have to use the words "Made to penetrate" rather than rape to get through to people but on a deeper level female rapists get away with it and walk away with probation or less because the laws against rape don't apply when the victim is a man. That's what we get when we start talking about people with or without a penetrating organ rather than having an honest discussion about sex.
The same thing happened when I was talking to my wife about abortion. I see it as a family planning issue where both parties need to consent to potentially having a baby at the time of intercourse, and then both parties need to change their position together later except in cases of rape or where the mother's life is in danger. That's because I remembering being deathly afraid my rapist would get pregnant and choose to have my child.
The idea of having to raise your child with your rapist, or leave your child with a rapist/abuser, or pay child support to your rapist his HORRIBLE. My wife said that I'd have a problem until I grew a uterus and could actually have a child of my own. That's where we are. I'm not a "Child bearing person", we don't dare say it's sexist and that the problem is that I'm not a woman.
But that's what GENDER is, it's systemic sexism. This is how the American Psychological society defines the word: "Gender refers to the attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with a person’s biological sex (APA, 2012)"
And gender identity is defined as "Gender identity is a component of gender that describes a person’s psychological sense of their gender", or in plain english it's INTERNALIZED sexism. How awful and controlling is it to tell somebody ELSE what their attitudes, feelings, and behaviors about sex have to be? And you see that in every position the Trans movement makes, and the results of the social changes they advocate.
When I got treated for Dysphoria after my dad died my "Trans" friends insisted I HAD to be Trans.
I'm Ace and Demisexual, but also straight. It took decades for Fetlife to allow me to list both rather than assuming being Demi meant I had no sexual preference. Even though I fought for years to let people be either straight or Gay I had to be Bi because I was Ace. That's another form of violation. If you use the wrong pronoun and mislead me about your sex I might develop romantic or sexual feelings based on your personality that I otherwise wouldn't consent to. Consent violations aren't OK.
Even worse is the removal of sex from behaviors that are systemically sexist like what clothing someone wears. In high school I sat in on a protest where the women all dressed in mens suits to protest what we now call "Feminine presentation", a lot of the older guys from the 80s also wore their hair long and wore makeup. I wore jewelry, long hair, and cowboy boots/heels and often was mistaken for a woman from the back.
Yup I got people yelling "Gay" at me out their front door, even more so since I'm very autistic. I got attacked in school until I proved I was tougher than everyone else and then all the girls tried to get with me. Not cool. Do you know what else isn't cool though? Making an old lady uncomfortable in the bathroom because your cultural expectations and hers don't match and not realizing that you BOTH are participating in the same sort of controlling, entitled, and self righteous behavior. Does it really matter if she's uncomfortable or your are? Somebody is uncomfortable, have some compassion.
It's even worse when you are dealing with rape victims with PTSD. I personally deal with severe and complex PTSD and I completely understand that the trigger has nothing PERSONALLY to do with the reaction. A person with PTSD who is reminded of their assault can experience a complete emotional or even physical re-living of the experience. One of the treatments is to remove yourself to a safe space away from the trigger and bring yourself "down" before it gets that bad.
However if you are running to the bathroom and it appears that someone of the opposing sex is following you in that can instantly push someone over the edge. We should treat forcing someone to relive their rape in nearly the same way we treat rape itself. The ultimate solution would be to get rid of sex segregated AND gender based bathrooms but until we do that it's a real problem, and one that the Trans community does not handle with compassion.
Ideally the solution to restrictive gender norms that damage your children and create an environment where the most common form of dysphoria is Gender dysphoria is to reform our ideals of gender. Anything other than having male or female body parts should be removed bit by bit from our gender norms.
I don't care if a man is gay, dresses like a woman, loves to bake, and wishes he could bear a child. Who you are inside has nothing to do with your body parts and should only matter when you are signalling to others information they might need for consenting to an emotional attachment or romantic interest, or when dealing with your doctor. The moment you say that a behavior, feeling, or outlook is male or female I have a word for you: Sexist.
And that is the entire framework the Trans movement has taken. Systemic and righteous sexism. If it looks like a woman, and acts like a woman, it is a woman . . . and when we talk about these other important topics we wind up with people with penetrating organs versus child bearing persons. . . It's an intolerant and harmful way of dealing with the world, and it has to be that way because it is rooted in intolerance, bigotry, and a need to protect ones self with righteous attacks at others rather than being tolerant, having compassion, and talking to them.
I get more concerned about others as I grow older
Yeah the caretaker genes kick in maybe
Empathy
I'm getting more left as I get older, and not just because of my bad knee.
Good thing I’m already progressive, since both my knees are shot. 😂
I consider myself hip, even though I just had one replaced!
I was conservative as a young person, and then as I turned 20 and moved out I became liberal because I realized they care more for people. Unlike hateful religious conservatives
I'm a 59 yr old Aussie ..My experience of the USA when I travelled there in 1984 was...America was sooo conservative bar a couple of hot spots, San Francisco and New York (Parts of those areas) ..I was truly shocked!! The image portrayed to Australia, Europe etc on TV etc. was America was really progressive ..not the case, so I found out ..The Nordic countries were far more progressive in almost all matters ..I feel it's quite similar today !!
That's the image many Americans have of Australia, too, thinking it's very progressive. Most of us don't know that your Liberal Party makes our Republican Party look like far left loons, and that your Prime Ministers have been the creators of some amount of chaos while trying to implement conservative policies. But I've never been there, so I only know what I've heard, and my view of Australia is probably far too shallow to deserve mentioning in public, much less to rely on for making any judgments.
Great comment 56 by Disneyland California
If you ever return you might feel more at home in New England. I'm in Massachusetts and we have plenty of strange right-wing crackpots but in general people here are liberal to progressive.
I can't believe anyone evre thought the US was progressive. I wish it was even a democracy. We sure have sold the world a lot of false ideas about who we are. It's funny, because some of it makes us seem better than we are, and some of it makes us seem far worse. This place is too huge and too diverse to be any one thing anyway.
I envy the Nordic countries. However, Democratic Socialism only works when you have a small population willing to take personal responsibility. They are having problems now. but I see your point.
I’m 74 and am more liberal.But as a side note I’ve always been a Democrat. I grew up in NYC which tends to be more liberal. I definitely have been more aggressive in fostering my views lately. I hate to see all my generation fought for get taken away.
Same here at 80, Barbara, I'm from WA. It's really depressing to see our country backsliding this way. I've always felt that it's less a generational thing than a cultural thing, though, even though some people do tend to become more fearful and set in their ways with age. There will always be a full spectrum of beliefs, from conservative to progressive, in any society. It's just a question of degree.
I'm a liberal through and through, at age 65( in less than a month 66). I was a republican until 24 you than Reaganomics changed me. I have absolutely no desire to go conservative! No way!
Hell yes, that's what gets me too - seeing the things I fought so hard for as a woman for so many years being wiped away by those Fascist male chauvinist pigs!
I've gotten more progressive as I've gotten older. I try not to get comfortable and complacent and I try to fill my education gaps, especially in regards to systemic inequities.
Same here 🙋🏻♀️
Same, but because many of my childish ideals are progressive and when I finally got hit hard enough with reality I couldn't wrap my head around how messed up the world was and that it has to be better than this.
Same here
Yeah, I'd say that's true for my husband as well. I was always socially progressive. Over time my husband has become more liberal on his own..
@@Johnston212 a lot of times conservatives convince themselves they see the world as it really is. Truth is, they aren't any more logical or critically minded than any of the folks they hold up as an example of progressive cognitive dissonance.
They don't even see the irony..
I'm getting more liberal the older I get. In my late 60's now. I read a lot.
I'm 61 and getting more progressive as I get older. I've spent many years struggling paycheck to paycheck and don't want others to have to do that.
Now that I’m older I do have more money but I know the pain of poverty and feel the need to give back more than ever. My older brother called me a socialist one time and I told him no I wasn’t. But if I got taxed $100 buck more a month so children could have insurance I was all in. It’s what’s right that’s all.
My Grandfather was born in 1919 and lived through the great depression. His son, my Father was born in 1938 and was fortunate during the Reagan 80's 90's and beyond. I was born in 1961 and for most of my life believed if I was honest and worked hard I could have a full life. By the time I was a single Woman supporting herself in the 1980's that began to change for my generation.
I remember a discussion with my Dad in my early 20's. He said "If you're not a Democrat when you're in your 20's..there is something wrong with you're heart. But if you're not a republican in your 40's there is something wrong with your mind". (or close to it). I'm not sure where to that phrase originated but I'm now in my 60's and feel my heart and mind are both in the proper place. My Grandfather was a progressive by the way.
Churchill said something similar, though obviously he was referencing Labour instead of the Dems, and the Tories instead of Reps. So he likely got it from there.
I have an answer to that axiom:
If you are 20 and not a progressive you have no heart.
If you are 40 and not a progressive you have no brain.
If you are 60 and not a progressive you have neither an heart nor a brain.
If you are 80 and not progressive you never had an heart nor a brain.
Yeah I've hard that saying.
I heard it a little different "If you're Republican before 30 you have no heart, if you're a Democrat after 30 you have no brain"
Honestly, I think the right-wing likes to perpetuate this idea that people get more conservative as they get older because it affirms their worldview and makes them look good.
It implies that being conservative is the mature and wise thing, and that not being conservative is childish and just something that naive college kids who think they know everything but actually have almost no life experience do, and that once they actually grow up and have jobs and families and responsibilities other than passing a final exam, they'll see that conservatives were right about everything!
That's, of course, bullshit, but you'd see why conservatives like the idea.
It means their views are the "correct" ones, and that the opposition can just be dismissed since they're childish and naive!
However, I mentioned in another comment, I don't even think that the majority of people do become more conservative when they get older. I think most stay as conservative as they ever were. What really illustrated this to me was, actually, the Democratic party. Specifically moderate liberals complaining about how they look forward to when my generation gets older and suddenly gets told that they're not progressive enough!
There's a lot to unpack there, but we'll just go with it demonstrates that political norms change over time.
So what might have been a moderate position when someone was 25, becomes an extreme conservative position by the time they're 75 and if they haven't, as Obama put it, evolved on the issue, they're now "more" conservative on the spectrum eventhough their beliefs about the subject haven't changed in 50 years.
Did your father listen to Rush Limbaugh?
I heard him say something very similar in the 80's.
I say it a different way:
If you’re a republican under 9999999 years old, you have no soul or brain. If you’re a republican over 9999999999999 millennia old, you’re probably Moscow Mitch (still no soul or brain)
I'm 61 and speaking for myself, I've gotten more Progressive as I've gotten older. We are in deep trouble regarding our planet and human rights. We have to vote for what's best for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren. We're leaving them with a hot mess. We have to change that as much as we can.
I've never bought that premise. In my case I have definitely become more liberal in my political views with each decade of age.
Honestly the older I get the further to the left I move lol but many of my friends who were more conservative or centrist have moved further right then I would have ever expected I think people just become more who they always have been the older they get
Yes...this 👆
My wife and i spent the first 10 years of our marriage living near the poverty line. We chose to live in low income, working class neighborhoods, and have friends that still do. I now make in the mid 6 figures, and live in a large house surrounded by homes... and I am now more liberal than I once was. I use to be full right centrist democrat, believing in incrementalism. But as my standard of living rises, and I see so many people working harder than myself around me, I move farther and farther to the left. You want me to pay 50% taxes so that the children I use to foster can have food everyday? Take it. You want me to lose large amounts on the value of my home so that others can find a home they can afford? Please, build subsidized homes.
I live in a homogenous neighborhood of wealthy persons, and there are a lot of yards with Warnock and Abrams signs.
If you look urban areas are democrats rural tend to be more republicans. I find a lot of rural areas are in a time lock .they don’t follow issues outside of their county. They don’t change. Why they follow maga is beyond me. They aren’t the same party today.
You’re a good person. Unselfish. Rare.
In economic issues, caring for other people can sometimes be a privilege/luxury only middle-class and up can afford.
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I wish I could say that! I live in Eastpointe MI. We share a border with Detroit. My middle class neighborhood is about equally split with Dems and GOP signs in the yards, and as you drive through metro Detroit, the more affluent neighborhoods gets redder and redder. There are a whole lot of people making $150,000 or more who go for Trump. It so happens most of us make less than $80,000
and I personally know plenty of households who even with 2 to 5 different revenue sources still bring in less than $50,000 a year. The poor and working class just out number the rest by far! Even most of the middle and upper class POCs still vote Democrat, but middle class and up Caucasians in this area still lean conservative for the most part.
I actually do know several people in their 40’s (my ex-husband and all of his friends whom I’ve known since the 90’s) who went from mostly progressive to full blown Trump supporter over the last 6-7 years. My ex likes to tell the kids he “used to think like them, but got wiser with age.” It is absolutely mind-boggling and our grown children are utterly confused by this.
Hello 👋🏻
I started out being pretty progressive and at 66 am more progressive and open minded than ever.
Same here at 68
Same here for this 71 year old. I was a liberal in 1972 when I first voted for McGovern, and I have remained progressive as the times and the labels changed.
Very well said, I was raised conservative in the 80's and I'll be honest a lot of my old views, especially back when I was essentially a mouthpiece for the things those older than me taught me, fill me with a sick horror for the most part. If anything has really changed me more than anything, it was exposure to new people and ideas in college, and becoming disabled. The disabled thing really makes you re-evaluate your whole life and your viewpoints because suddenly you need to depend on others and that's a hard thing to do, especially in a country where many want you to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ignoring the physical impossibility even if you are healthy.
I hear you. Stabbed in the back by my employer after an on the job accident, I now float around in a world where, if you can't do it, no one is going to help, and no one cares. You are on your own, regardless of disability. Get used to it.
Yes, I have heard the "pull yourself up by your bootstrap" bs for years. You are in my "thoughts and prayers" us another one! Cons put Viagra in health insurance, took the pill out, want to ban abortion if you're raped, throw a woman in jail if she gets one. They think health care is the responsibility of your church. Your daughter should keep aspirin between her knees! These are vile sick people, so addicted to money and power, at the disposal of the country! It's so disgusting, I can not pray for them, only wish them death and disease, then maybe they begin to understand reality of not being in the lucky sperm club!
Exactly!
💯💯me 2 on the disable! I'm 65 now...
You were indoctrinated.
I was very liberal when I was younger. I’ve gotten even more liberal as I’ve gotten older. I’m 66. It feels great to expand vs calcify! 😊
At 70, me too! It just seems against reality if I pay attention and would want any part of the conservative package, even before this hard turn to the past. Just can't live with figuring out which of my fellow citizens "are to blame". Onward!
I once had a very jaded man try to tell me; when you're young and innocent youre liberal, as you mature you become conservative. I felt bad for him.
I'm old enough to remember Murphy Brown being the first single mom on TV had the conservatives clutching their pearls.
I remember that reaction, too! Chuckling at the expression “clutching their pearls” - as a Canadian I believe that is a “gem” expression from the U.S. Fabulous!
That wasn't that long ago.
Oh gods. Flipping Dan Quayle! I'm also old enough to remember vividly when Ellen's character came out on her show and the uproar that caused. In 1997. Ugh. Andnow I feel like a fossil.
One day at a time, featured a single mom. It was in 1975.
I was an icon I aspired to! Independent, confident! Lol my grandmother, on the other hand was shocked!
I'm gonna be 55 in three weeks. I started out radical and have become even more so. Ⓐ
Circle a for life.
I once heard a line about self awareness:
"When the mirror is broken it cannot be put back together," along the lines of letting the cat out of the bag, in that after you see someone as a person it's hard to other them
That must be whey they agro so much about seeing movies with POC and villains with backstories.
My mom was a union gal, and always preached to me to vote Dem for that reason. I never questioned it. But in my 40s now, it's gone from just a token vote to something I truly believe in. Love your videos.
TOTALLY AGREE, Beau! I'm 71 and have become a stronger and stronger progressive by the decade. I've had BERNIE and COEXIST stickers on my car for years and years; new stickers with a new car. I grew up in an extremely conservative family. Started moving away from that from college on.
Born in the early 50's. I have become more fiscally conservative in my own life, but much more progressive socially. I have met and worked with and become friends with too wide a spectrum of ethnic, social, religious and political people and been exposed to such a wide range of thought that I had to evolve or die of the cognitive dissonance. I was raised by racist bigoted alcoholics and I beat two of those afflictions. Now I think I'll have a beer...
Cheers 🥂
My man!
A full life requires an open heart and mind. A belly of 🍺 is a bonus.
Good on Ya!!
You're not progressive then. You can't pay lip service to progress but deny the economic aspect of it. Economics is the only thing that actually matters
I’ve been getting steadily more liberal as I’ve gotten older. The more I’ve seen of the world, and the conditions people live in, the less I worry about conservative issues (back when there were conservative issues).
I did not. I got more educated.
Was born in the 80s. Every time I look back at who I was even 20 years ago, I run away screaming. Even now, I give myself the side-eye every once and awhile.
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You should, because you and your children are the future. Teach them to be curious and learn everything they can, with your guidance when needed. The world has enough ignorance, for many reasons. With the internet, our own personal home library, there’s no reason we can’t.
I'm 60 and I'm ashamed to say that it took me until about 50 to figure out that the way things were during my young years was not the way things were 'supposed' to be, it was just the way things 'happened' to be at that time. There are probably thoughts that still run through my head that simply haven't ever run through the head of someone who is now 30, and in 30 years time they will be the 60 year old and I will be gone, and those thoughts will be gone with me.
@Clarks ONeil, never be ashamed to say you got it wrong and now are trying to change going forward, be proud of making an informed choice for the better
Never be ashamed. You learned and grew with new information. There's no shame in it
❤️ thank you for being an example. Few people admit to changing when they see something that tells them they should maybe adjust their attitude. They ignore that inner voice instead. You haven't. It's normal to change as we mature.. but many people never do.. it's heartening to see people like you who see change as an opportunity to reevaluate your world view.. and no we don't have to agree on anything for that (chances are we do but still). You at least think about your positions and question yourself. That shows a certain amount of inner strength a lot of people lack.. I respect you for it..
@@Phuc_Yhou LoL! Nice nickname xD
@@adamg.5525 Why is it that so many of the strongest people so often see themselves as the most flawed? Why the bravest often feel so afraid?
I know that overcoming our own personal limitations shows our maturation.. but why do we so often end up with such a skewed sense of self in the process?
Why do we internalize so much negativity we would never direct at anyone else, ever??
Progressive since can't remember when, soon to be 78.💙🇺🇸☮️✌️
Would be great if they would vote based on whether it’s the right thing to do for the people they represent rather than to toe the Republican line.
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One day perhaps - when we teach them that they'll be a lot more personally successful if they do.
Vote how you REGISTER ONLY
Goes for north
But it's easier than having to think for yourself.
Which is why many of the Founding Fathers warned about the dangers of factions/parties. But, their warnings weren't heeded, and over 200 years later, we're witnessing the end results of our foolish tribalism in real time.
Independent progressive more and more every year. Life experiences and open minded observations continue as I get older 🌹
I am 68 and so glad you discussed this myth. I still have a Bernie sticker on my car. We older people love the young .
I was born in the mid 1950’s, raised in a small town in the heart of the Midwest. As a teenager I was pretty darn conservative. Then I went off to college, met people who weren’t just like me, and saw the world from new points of view. It was an awakening on a grand scale. God bless My Bloomington years.
IU grad and current Bloomington resident myself. Coming from Terre Haute, Bloomington is a progressive wonder in comparison.
Joining VISTA was a big turn around for me. I think major culture shock. I went to this training session/camp, and we got "schooled" as the kids say these days. D ::D
So glad to hear. That’s precisely the reason for the big push against college by the modern republican party. It’s sad to see knowledge, innovation, unity and inclusion under attack in the way it is.
59, female, and from Alabama. A leftist and vocal about it. Age has given me permission to stop down playing it.
Thanks to you Beau I've become even more progressive thinking than ever. I believe I'm more open minded than ever. I've never been "conservative" but I was not very left of center democrats. Having kids of my own and now grandkids things have become even more personal and important to me.
Thanks to you I've also been able to explain the other side to those who are un or misinformed. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for hearing them and disproving what people think they know about us in the grandma category!
I'm 74 and get more open and accepting every moment I'm alive. Thank you Beau...
I think is a similar phenomenon to how young people think older people "dress old fashioned" cos their clothes are from decades ago but in older people's minds they're just wearing the clothes that were fashionable in their 20s and 30s cos that's what they learned was cool.
I am proof that it's not universally true. I'm 78 and getting more progressive as I age.
I am so glad you addressed this issue. I'm 71 and grew up in the south. My parents were from NY and when my mom died I found communist literature from the 1930s in her papers. So I grew up in a family that was politically aware and liberal leaning. They also valued information, so lots of books, newspapers and varied experiences thru travel. I don't think I can be anything but liberal so it sort of pisses me off when some people assume I'm conservative because of my age.
" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
― Mark Twain
Notebooks. One of those 'hot damn did we have a genius in Sam Clemens' lines.
“No matter whether th’ constitution follows th’ flag or not, th’ supreme coort follows th’ iliction returns.” ~ Mr Dooley
Haha, I can hardly wait until anarchism becomes a conservative value. Seriously, chec out some of the liturature - it's not what you may think...
@@AintSkeerdNWO I know what Anarchism is, I'm a Marxist-Leninist, Anarchism is skipping to the right answer without showing your work; MLs have their own problem with Idealism, of which Anarchism is a product.
@@noheroespublishing1907 As an ancom, forced to respectfully disagree on the specifics of the distinctions between ML praxis and anarchist praxis. ML practices and thought are tailored for rapid improvements to material conditions and education for those most oppressed. It's an entirely reasonable methodology for, say, Vietnam, or modern day India and the Philippines (where emancipatory movements under those banners are picking up steam). Anarchist practices and thought (at least, the sort I tend to examine, via Baker, Malatesta, Kropotkin) are tailored to pursuing mindsets that, with more favorable conditions established (or at least means of production that could enable them), will continue to pursue emancipation.
That said, I'm still of the opinion we're all czcams.com/video/ES72T_wW228/video.html
I am 73, I go to my senior center and interact with people from 55 to 95. There is a huge generational gap. What you said about values you have when young carry over is so true. I listen to the 80-90 year olds talk and it’s like a time warp on their view of current events. They do not see the world the same as everyone else. Their customs and mores are from the 1940s and 1950’s. Most of them have never lived anywhere else then the small town we live in. It never fails to surprise me. I am from California. I grew up with progressive values. 😊
THANK YOU!
I’ve been screaming every time I hear that saying.
I wore bell bottoms, mini skirts, and love beads. Experienced the Summer of Love and the sexual Revolution. Celebrated the first Earth Day. I have NOT become more conservative - I’ve become more progressive and it really gets my Irish up when people assume I’m a conservative.
That doesn't bother me - it can't - I live in a crimson red state. We do get an earful though, don't we? We know more about them than the average progressive who doesn't get mis-identified. I love stating to their amazement that I'm a proud progressive.
I'm someone from a small school in a rural village who graduated in the early '70's, I was voted most liberal of my class. I never understood what it meant. Just kept an open mind and willing to walk in others shoes without judgment. Truly a live and let live attitude that's only gotten more so that way. Some things just aren't anyone's business.
You had me at first, I was coming in angry (for no reason), but you're super right. Thank you for making this. My Dad is a boomer and he votes Dem. I thought of a friend of min who is becoming more conservative because he won't change. I love this.
I’m trying to keep in the back of my mind the idea of that when I am older, and my children are the age I am now, that the cultural norms may shift in such a way that they call me out for my bullshit the same way I’ve called my own parents out on theirs. I just hope that when that time comes, if that time comes, I am more receptive to it than my parents have been.
I personally went mostly in the inverse of the “normal” narrative. I grew up in a conservative small town family in New England and held a lot of conservative views on things (immigration, education, social assistance programs, etc) when I was young. When I went to college my perspectives expanded some, but I still held the ‘ you make it on your own merits’ and ‘pull yourself up by your bootstraps’ view of the world overall. It wasn’t until a decade plus into my professional life that I recognized that the station your born into generally has a lot more to do with your future success than the personal effort you put in. It was the 2016 election cycle when I was 35 when I became more politically aware and devoted energy to staying cognizant. Today I’m far more financially fortunate than my family was when growing up and the way I see it is that means I have a greater responsibility to realistically provide at least some of the opportunities I took for granted as a kid to those who weren’t as lucky as me in the birth lottery.
Your worldview is ridiculous and contrary to natural law.
I had that similar wake up call. Was libertarian very early on. Yikes! Luckily, the more years of teaching I had under my belt, the more obvious the truth was. You can't keep looking at what happens "all things being equal", when things aren't equal.
@@KISEwun sorry little guy there is no "natural law". But you tried :)
@@KISEwun Actually, the human species has a far better chance of surviving if we work together and so his worldview is not contrary to survival.
Same story -- a young New England Republican; 30-40 years later, I'm now so far left I make Bernie seem like a corporate shill.
My grandpa always said that as you get older you become more of yourself.
None of us really changes over time, we just become more of what we are.
Totally agree. I'm a 72 year old vet. and have been to more protest rallies in the past 6 years then all of the 60's and 70's combined. Thank you Sir.
Canadian here, just a year shy of forty. Can definitely identify hard with this video. I grew up basically liberal, and only in my early to mid-thirties did I really find myself able and willing to tear apart a lot of the things I knew, or thought I did. Now I'm a proud progressive, and I hope that if I live another forty or fifty years, young people will know me as an old dude who gets it, at least most of the time. I don't think I would ever see myself as a conservative anymore. Videos like this help, too, because for every new stupid paroxysm from the dying right, it does sort of feel as if it will never end. But in the long run, we always win, and that's what I have to remember.
Cheers from a fellow Canadian progressive.
@@rainsticklandguitartalk9483 It's Trudeau🇨🇦❤️🍻