Honestly I respect you for keeping them private, the Trainz community has become so toxic that there are barely any good people left, like you could make serious money with the models, but you choose not to in spite, mad respect my guy. You got some talent
Thats because so many ppl let their egos get too big which is seriously like 99.9% of the trainz communities issues. Godforbid you ask ANY of those ppl for help!
@@dylanruppert4547 Even N3V doesn’t care, they literally made Trainz 22 a copy paste of Trs 19. this is why Trainz 2022 has been a failure in sales, such a bad company.
@@threepea1151 They don't even care about TANE which imo is so much better then TRS19 and yes I get it the games 10 years old but like common Rockstar has been making updates for GTA V and its annoying JR and RR Mods who are 3rd party creators have stopped making shit for TANE now
Gonna level with you dude, I know back in the day we had a bit of a shitty disposition personally between the two of us, but your work has gotten leaps and bounds better than it used to be. Great work mate, keep it up. Beautiful work, and I love the research attention.
It’s unfortunate that this is private, but none the less, I am greatly impressed. I have actually had the opportunity to help out on the restoration project for the EBT, and seeing 16 run for the first time in 60+ years is astronomical. Nice job man.
Lovely models, what an amazing fleet you have done. Thank you for sharing these images. I am glad to see someone else who loves the 15 due to the headlight. I am a sucker for anything with an arc headlight, especially on a shortline engine with a wooden pilot and tall chimney. It is good to see someone else who feels such. One other note, the welded tender tank on the 16 was done in service days. I am not a fan of modern welded jobs, but 16’s was from service days. Of note 12 had an arc headlight when new, and 17 still has an arc headlight, although with the chimney removed.
Oh dear, I’ve been there before. Once you get caught up on a project you can’t help but keep going, and going, and going, and going, and going until there is nothing left to go on.
Nice to see guys like you Fokker. Your stuff is absolutely amazing and of course I think we all wish we could own it, but I greatly respect you keeping your stuff private in this cesspool of a community like others have described it as. Everyone wants to just make "tons" of money off this stuff and that is all. To me Trainz has become money, screenshot & CZcams video simulator. Now I will say, I LOVE your music videos man, they are amazing, especially Wreck of Old 97. However, no one does anything that meaningful with the sim or what it was even intended for...and like you said, it is hard to make compelling video content when most of the community is a bunch of foamers who have no idea how real railroads operate or even want to watch that sort of stuff anyway. Now my suggestion for you would be to make an ops session video or at least as close as you can to it. Have your stuff doing real work without deleting or placing down trains randomly unless of course something horrific happens. It was the whole idea behind this originally from Auran, for this to be a virtual *model* railroad simulator and to be able to run operating sessions within it. After Tony with N3V took over, the whole direction of the game changed and in turn, it (in my opinion) ruined what could have been a great operations sim for people who don't have enough space to build a physical layout. Heck, aside from when I was making content many years ago, operating sessions are where I get the most enjoyment and I get a sense of really doing something after I've done the jobs/work given to myself. I don't just run on 1 route either, I actually iPortal between routes so my ops sessions are rather interesting. When I finish work on one route, I go to another and do work over there until I can't or want to transfer to another route again and so on. I rotate around between routes constantly sending trains all over the place to the industries that need cars or products. I don't cheat in products either and I only use staging yards to spawn trains in. They HAVE to run from staging to get anywhere, even if it is just light engine and I really can't understand why no one uses the industry system either. We have this INCREDIBLE feature of having *working* industry, yet no one uses it! Makes it a lot more interesting and engaging then just running a train in a circle or plopping one down, taking a screenshot, then deleting it. I swear people have absolutely no attention span nowadays. iPortals also allow you to send trains to other people, meaning you can (and there are iPortal Discord servers) make it even more insane by having trains go between other people and not just yourself. Everyone seems to have lost what the original point of Trainz was and I wish people would understand what I just described is what the sim was intended for, but N3V and this community have completely wasted this game's potential. Keep up the good work!
I never considered the use of industries like the way you've laid out, mostly because I don't know how to set something like that up, but who knows, maybe I can give op sessions a shot. This could also push the need for my models to have interactive cab interiors to help with the immersion and not just spinning a dial like most of my other stuff is. Because, yeah, in truth I'd LOVE to find more of a reason to play this game than just making a model then exiting to play TF2 or something, I've almost considered porting my stuff to a new game in general unless I find something in Trainz to keep me interested, so yeah, I'll definitely keep note of this. Thanks man!
@@thatredfokker Your welcome! Glad I could provide you with an idea for what to do in Trainz. I fell out of Trainz probably around 3 years ago or so but am checking out a less then legal copy of TRS22 for the 1st time soon...after I migrate all my crap over which is taking forever. (I just cannot support N3V. I consider games an investment, and if I am not agreeing with the company or dev...I ain't gonna financially support that. Yet I do want to try out the game but because of no demos existing anymore, it makes it quite freaking hard to do so without getting it via some other means) While Trainz is a sort of sandbox you can do anything in, holy CRAP does it get boring when there is no goal or reason to do anything for. No, that wasn't the factor that drew me away from the franchise, it was N3V with their dumb garbage and the community. I've had plenty of reason to actually play the game as I described before, but I just hate where the community and N3V are taking this franchise. I was hoping Railroads Online would be an alternative railroad simulator I could do instead, but that ship died with a nuke at this point. Now I'm waiting for Railroader: Shortline Operations to come out as well and that DEFINITELY is going to be a competitor to Dovetail's trash and Trainz. We'll see how they fair when it finally releases. Btw, if you ever need help with setting up industries. I know way more then the average person about them or CZcamsr, so if you ever want help, don't hesitate to ask!
Well, I play other sims like Planet Coaster in sandbox mode where there is no goal, you just build or explore the park. I don't really like challenges in games like these where you build things. I like trains and amusement parks and I have and had a whole bunch of train and amusement park sims but I don't play them all. Some games I had in the past I don't play anymore, like MSTS, old Roller Coaster Tycoons, Theme Park by Bullfrog, etc. because the ones I use currently are superior. i guess if you like games where you have to do something or complete something or fail, like most video games where you have to fight enemies, race to the finish line or shoot zombies or terrorists in order to win. I used to play A-Train and Theme Park on Playstation 1 in the late 90's.
I think the EBT gave 17 yellow handrails because it complemented the red and black. That’s just a guess, maybe it was a FAD in the 90s, when q7 gained the livery.
learned after making this that it was just some safety stuff, not sure kind of effect painting 0.1% of the locomotive yellow did for safety though, lol
Only thing to note on the "2023" 16 is that the lettering is slightly different (size, placement, and font). Minor difference aside, these look superb!
Awesome models!!! Im very impressed! I have a challenge for you if you want to make an entire railroads steam roster! Lets see Texas State Railroads 610, 316, 1316, 30, and 28!
It literally says “private” in the video title, so, the likelihood of these models ever being available is zero. I can understand why Mr. Fokker prefers to keep his models private considering the Trainz community is a cesspool.
If you'd like some EBT Drawings I can help you out.. I only have a few folders full of drawings. - from the guy that attempted to make the EBT in TS but real life got in the way of me finishing it
Without trying to sound like a gimme pig, why are your models private? I mean, i’m just curious, i’m not saying “YoU’vE mAdE a TrAiNz MoDeL, rEaLeAsE iT!1!!1” Again, just curious, and i respect your decision
I will never understand why people put dozens if not hundreds of hours into models they can’t or won’t share with other people. Like what was the point of going to all that effort just to do nothing with the end result?
@@Sparecards that’s kinda the problem though, when everyone says “make em yourself” we’re left with a game with a total of 7 publicly available models…
Honestly I respect you for keeping them private, the Trainz community has become so toxic that there are barely any good people left, like you could make serious money with the models, but you choose not to in spite, mad respect my guy. You got some talent
Thats because so many ppl let their egos get too big which is seriously like 99.9% of the trainz communities issues. Godforbid you ask ANY of those ppl for help!
@@dylanruppert4547 I left the Trainz community to dovetail train sim cause of that
@@threepea1151 like fr its a bunch of kids who seriously think they're 10ft tall and bullet proof behind a monitor
@@dylanruppert4547 Even N3V doesn’t care, they literally made Trainz 22 a copy paste of Trs 19. this is why Trainz 2022 has been a failure in sales, such a bad company.
@@threepea1151 They don't even care about TANE which imo is so much better then TRS19 and yes I get it the games 10 years old but like common Rockstar has been making updates for GTA V and its annoying JR and RR Mods who are 3rd party creators have stopped making shit for TANE now
#12 is a current favorite. Narrow gauge steam engines with deep toned whistles are just pure bliss.
you should hear #12's original Baldwin whistle, infinitely deeper that the one it wore during most of it's life.
Gonna level with you dude, I know back in the day we had a bit of a shitty disposition personally between the two of us, but your work has gotten leaps and bounds better than it used to be. Great work mate, keep it up. Beautiful work, and I love the research attention.
That random “Pootis!” got me laughing XD
It’s unfortunate that this is private, but none the less, I am greatly impressed. I have actually had the opportunity to help out on the restoration project for the EBT, and seeing 16 run for the first time in 60+ years is astronomical. Nice job man.
Thanks, dutch
That's some 🔥 work. I'm not a big EBT fan But DAMN that looks good. Whistles are good too. Kudos for the skill and patience for doing this
Congratulations man. This is the hardest I've foamed at any Trainz model ever. Absolutely exquisite work!
Wow you did an amazing job with the EBT models. Love the whistles. Can’t wait till K&L Trainz makes their own EBT stuff eventually
Love it and I thought that I would never see an East Broad Top Railroad Train simulator
Lovely models, what an amazing fleet you have done. Thank you for sharing these images. I am glad to see someone else who loves the 15 due to the headlight. I am a sucker for anything with an arc headlight, especially on a shortline engine with a wooden pilot and tall chimney. It is good to see someone else who feels such. One other note, the welded tender tank on the 16 was done in service days. I am not a fan of modern welded jobs, but 16’s was from service days. Of note 12 had an arc headlight when new, and 17 still has an arc headlight, although with the chimney removed.
1:20 you and what army?
TRF: THIS ARMY!
The whistle sounds like the Mark Twain at Disneyland
All of your models look incredible!
My guy, this shit looks fucking epic
THE CULT KEEPS EXTENDING.
Oh dear, I’ve been there before. Once you get caught up on a project you can’t help but keep going, and going, and going, and going, and going until there is nothing left to go on.
Yup, nothing's ever complete, no such thing as closure with a model
@@thatredfokker Oh man, that’s deep but true.
Man you're just mocking us by keeping these private lol
I know right
I can see why he would keep them private it probably took months to make these
@@Mad_Waffle_4449 wouldn’t you wanna make money off of them…
I never thought about that
@@threepea1151 I would definitely pay for them 😅
Nice to see guys like you Fokker. Your stuff is absolutely amazing and of course I think we all wish we could own it, but I greatly respect you keeping your stuff private in this cesspool of a community like others have described it as. Everyone wants to just make "tons" of money off this stuff and that is all. To me Trainz has become money, screenshot & CZcams video simulator. Now I will say, I LOVE your music videos man, they are amazing, especially Wreck of Old 97. However, no one does anything that meaningful with the sim or what it was even intended for...and like you said, it is hard to make compelling video content when most of the community is a bunch of foamers who have no idea how real railroads operate or even want to watch that sort of stuff anyway. Now my suggestion for you would be to make an ops session video or at least as close as you can to it. Have your stuff doing real work without deleting or placing down trains randomly unless of course something horrific happens. It was the whole idea behind this originally from Auran, for this to be a virtual *model* railroad simulator and to be able to run operating sessions within it.
After Tony with N3V took over, the whole direction of the game changed and in turn, it (in my opinion) ruined what could have been a great operations sim for people who don't have enough space to build a physical layout. Heck, aside from when I was making content many years ago, operating sessions are where I get the most enjoyment and I get a sense of really doing something after I've done the jobs/work given to myself. I don't just run on 1 route either, I actually iPortal between routes so my ops sessions are rather interesting. When I finish work on one route, I go to another and do work over there until I can't or want to transfer to another route again and so on. I rotate around between routes constantly sending trains all over the place to the industries that need cars or products. I don't cheat in products either and I only use staging yards to spawn trains in. They HAVE to run from staging to get anywhere, even if it is just light engine and I really can't understand why no one uses the industry system either. We have this INCREDIBLE feature of having *working* industry, yet no one uses it! Makes it a lot more interesting and engaging then just running a train in a circle or plopping one down, taking a screenshot, then deleting it. I swear people have absolutely no attention span nowadays. iPortals also allow you to send trains to other people, meaning you can (and there are iPortal Discord servers) make it even more insane by having trains go between other people and not just yourself. Everyone seems to have lost what the original point of Trainz was and I wish people would understand what I just described is what the sim was intended for, but N3V and this community have completely wasted this game's potential.
Keep up the good work!
I never considered the use of industries like the way you've laid out, mostly because I don't know how to set something like that up, but who knows, maybe I can give op sessions a shot. This could also push the need for my models to have interactive cab interiors to help with the immersion and not just spinning a dial like most of my other stuff is.
Because, yeah, in truth I'd LOVE to find more of a reason to play this game than just making a model then exiting to play TF2 or something, I've almost considered porting my stuff to a new game in general unless I find something in Trainz to keep me interested, so yeah, I'll definitely keep note of this. Thanks man!
@@thatredfokker Your welcome! Glad I could provide you with an idea for what to do in Trainz. I fell out of Trainz probably around 3 years ago or so but am checking out a less then legal copy of TRS22 for the 1st time soon...after I migrate all my crap over which is taking forever. (I just cannot support N3V. I consider games an investment, and if I am not agreeing with the company or dev...I ain't gonna financially support that. Yet I do want to try out the game but because of no demos existing anymore, it makes it quite freaking hard to do so without getting it via some other means) While Trainz is a sort of sandbox you can do anything in, holy CRAP does it get boring when there is no goal or reason to do anything for. No, that wasn't the factor that drew me away from the franchise, it was N3V with their dumb garbage and the community. I've had plenty of reason to actually play the game as I described before, but I just hate where the community and N3V are taking this franchise.
I was hoping Railroads Online would be an alternative railroad simulator I could do instead, but that ship died with a nuke at this point. Now I'm waiting for Railroader: Shortline Operations to come out as well and that DEFINITELY is going to be a competitor to Dovetail's trash and Trainz. We'll see how they fair when it finally releases.
Btw, if you ever need help with setting up industries. I know way more then the average person about them or CZcamsr, so if you ever want help, don't hesitate to ask!
Well, I play other sims like Planet Coaster in sandbox mode where there is no goal, you just build or explore the park. I don't really like challenges in games like these where you build things. I like trains and amusement parks and I have and had a whole bunch of train and amusement park sims but I don't play them all. Some games I had in the past I don't play anymore, like MSTS, old Roller Coaster Tycoons, Theme Park by Bullfrog, etc. because the ones I use currently are superior. i guess if you like games where you have to do something or complete something or fail, like most video games where you have to fight enemies, race to the finish line or shoot zombies or terrorists in order to win. I used to play A-Train and Theme Park on Playstation 1 in the late 90's.
just in time for EBT 16's first run lol
I think the EBT gave 17 yellow handrails because it complemented the red and black. That’s just a guess, maybe it was a FAD in the 90s, when q7 gained the livery.
learned after making this that it was just some safety stuff, not sure kind of effect painting 0.1% of the locomotive yellow did for safety though, lol
@@thatredfokker oh, I never knew that. I guessed they just wanted some pizazz with the tourist livery.
I fired number 17 from 93 to 96 ... Good Times in Orbisonia.
Absolutely beautiful model!
1:43 me when pootis:
pootis
Pootis
It actually looks like it’s been reskinned and kitbashed from Ben Neal’s EBT model. And where did that Heavy model come from?
That's probably because it's an older model of mine, lmao.
Heavy came from TF2
Just beautiful!
Welcome to insanity, my friend… also want to here about that fictional of yours…
Buddy I'm a decorated veteran of the insanity club, so on the contrary, I welcome you, lol
Another epic loco. Great job
Only thing to note on the "2023" 16 is that the lettering is slightly different (size, placement, and font). Minor difference aside, these look superb!
So that was changed too? weird. Thought the new cowbell-sounding clanger was enough, lol
BRO GOT DA HOLE SQUAD HERE-
Dude I’m so jealous, I’d be willing to pay you for these lol. Respect your decision though.
Awesome models!!! Im very impressed! I have a challenge for you if you want to make an entire railroads steam roster! Lets see Texas State Railroads 610, 316, 1316, 30, and 28!
I'd probably only make 316
i ain't biased towards ten wheelers, stfu i dunno what you talkin bout
I respect the choice to keep it private but also awwwww
Will there be a route made for this based on the East Broad Top? If so, I would love to see it and operations on the route
Probably not
Should sell them man make loads of money lol
(Steam train jump scare 1:42)
These are amazing! My only complaint is they dont come with a pricetag 😭
Anyone else see the hidden engine at 1:46? 😂
East Broad Top Locomotive 12
4:29 [train whistle]
When r u gonna change 16’s Chinese sounding whistle lol
Changed it 2 weeks ago I think, now that there's more footage of 16 running
K&L has some competition
I thought the fats also had shine rods
Gotta let us know if they're able to be downloaded or bought or something Because I really want to run these locomotives.
It literally says “private” in the video title, so, the likelihood of these models ever being available is zero. I can understand why Mr. Fokker prefers to keep his models private considering the Trainz community is a cesspool.
What is that music
this is cool
Looks amazing but how come theres so much play between the engine and tender?
It's the game
If you'd like some EBT Drawings I can help you out.. I only have a few folders full of drawings. - from the guy that attempted to make the EBT in TS but real life got in the way of me finishing it
So, I hate to ask, but make it instead of E.B.T. On the tender, put C.B.T. As a joke lol?
Hey man, what corona are you using on ur locos?
On the DLS, Headlight Flare
Are the whistles all authentic to the real counterparts?
i really don't care that much about whistles, I just looked up audio for each engine and just made sure the quality was at least good enough
How did you get walk cam?
Trainz Plus
Without trying to sound like a gimme pig, why are your models private? I mean, i’m just curious, i’m not saying “YoU’vE mAdE a TrAiNz MoDeL, rEaLeAsE iT!1!!1”
Again, just curious, and i respect your decision
where do you get the diagrams from?
czcams.com/video/hoCMUe5IB0U/video.html I think this could be a good audio cut for the 16
I will never understand why people put dozens if not hundreds of hours into models they can’t or won’t share with other people.
Like what was the point of going to all that effort just to do nothing with the end result?
It's his choice, deal with it. :)
@@TTM765 Stating the obvious aren't we? I don't see anyone here claiming he shouldn't have a right to make that choice.
yes
@@trainknut Eh make ''em yourself
@@Sparecards that’s kinda the problem though, when everyone says “make em yourself” we’re left with a game with a total of 7 publicly available models…
Explain to me, why are these private
It's his choice, and honestly, I can't blame him. I wouldn't want Trainz community getting their grimy hands on my models either.
It was a joke, I can see why he wouldn’t want the community using it, if I spent months working on these models I would keep to myself to.
si
Why are you here
I have drawings for rolling stock, do you have discord?