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- Look back farther into our archive than ever before with a brand new episode, Vintage Portland, revisiting finds from 20 years ago! Preview the episode with Christopher Hartop's appraisal of an Elias Pelletreau silver teapot, ca. 1750.
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How wonderful to have something handed down for generations that your ancestors used every day! Not to mention it’s beautifully made. She even knows the names of her ancestors it belonged to. David & Phoebe! I love history! And having something from her ancestors makes it come alive! She’s able to reach back 300 years & touch what they touched! It’s almost time travel! What a remarkable connection! I hope her daughter & granddaughters value that too. Keeping it in the family makes it priceless. I love this story.
Our family heirlooms are all Tupperware...
You’re in good shape.....All our family heirlooms are store brand whipped topping bowls.
how sad :(
DEW mine are empty butter containers
Nice..you guys rich?
I have an iron skillet from my grandmother. We can’t do delicate expensive stuff in this family. Nope. 😂
Imagine the conversations around the table in the 18th century during the Revolution or even 100 years later during the civil war while tea was being poured from this teapot. Priceless.
Just imagine, someone who existed in the mid-1700s had their hands on that very teapot. They poured tea out of it and actually used it on a daily basis. To me that is absolutely astounding!
Same
Beautiful teapot
Imagine how many have drank from it since ?!
Amazing !
I imagine too,.. It was quiet back then, maybe a cow lowing off in the distance, and if it's summer, then maybe, in the cool of the evening, with the days work over, the tea pot rattles a little while putting the evening tea in to steep along with the water which was preheated over a fire, then sit in the cool to sip your tea in reflection. The first sip tickles warmly down your throat urging you to sip again, but you resist, and fill that time instead with other, eventually finishing but in due time, stretching the moment out enough to fill in a small part of the vast span of time faced daily,..., and when the sun is gone, you sit in the dark until the evening cools a bit, and if it cools enough you might even get to bed earlier than ten.
@@randykuhns4515 nice.
What a treasure. I would be proud to take care of such an heirloom and have a great story to go with it I'm sure.
It's beautiful and the owner seems like such a gentle, sweet lady.
She beat up my grandma in 1986.
Touch her tea pot and you'll draw back a bloody stump.
@@charliedsurf1267 🤣 you're fresh
@@danacaro-herman3530 lol..Not as fresh as i used to be.
I used to watch this show at night and it’d soothe my mind
Beautiful teapot.
I just spent $20 on a cast iron Japanese teapot and I love it!
Do you like to drink rust?
@@mrfester42 It has a porcelain coating on the inside that prevents rust from getting into the tea.
But no, in general I don't like to consume rust, to answer your question.
At a Pelletreau exhibition in 2018, 170 items were displayed, of which four were teapots, but also beakers, tankards, porringers. No creamer, because there were no creamers at this time. No sets.
I REALLY enjoy these shows as long as they are legit!
Wow. I got a rare teapot engraved with the initials WM. There's a ding in the spout. I did take it to the manufacturer and they said they don't have that teapot anymore so WalMart tell me.
Must be worth at least $00,000.20!
I’m 16 why am I watching this @ 2 in the morning.
Rick from pawn stars: " My top end would be $200.00. I mean it's going to sit around my shop and I will have to pay to have it polished and I'm taking a big risk here."
No doubt! Smh.
Please stop with the 'Rick from Pawn Stars' comments. They are so old.
😆
@Jacqueline Rick's mom has entered the chat.
Hahahahahahaha... Spot on...
“It’s worth about 20,000 dollars... but I’m sure worth far more than that to you as a family heirloom.”
“Ummm.... yeah.”
Show me the money....lol...
If this teapot keeps getting passed down in her family, eventually it will be worth one million dollars!
Jon Lovitz Ahhh, ya, yaaaa suuure ! LOL
lol
It is... it’s the next generation that sells it after grandma dies. Things too nice to use often have no sentimental value. Broke families with expensive heirlooms should often take the cash.
I am a huge tea service enthusiast and the most expensive tea service I’ve ever seen (made by Odiot, included 9 pieces, and weighed 53 pounds) was $65,000 so I was not prepared for that 20k estimate lol.
What do you mean? Is it too expensive? But Odiot weighed 53 pounds, as you said, and it was made probably in the 1850 or later. Although founded in 1690, I´ve never seen an Odiot set from the 18th century.
bid.igavelauctions.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5081436
@@vonpfrentsch 5081436: French Sterling Silver Royal 9-Piece Tea and Coffee
Service, Odiot, Paris, c. 1880 EL1QQ est $12-18000
I think it is because of all the history connected to it. The birth of the nation, the Boston tea party, Paul Revere being a silversmith himself. And this piece being crafted right in that time period.
@@jackmiddleton2080 Just building off of your comment! Elias Pelletreau himself was something of a revolutionary war figure. As Long Island was occupied by the British, he took his family and fled to Connecticut. He was too old to participate in battle itself (at least one of his sons did serve), but he did help with a significant amount of funding.
OMG. What a wonderful item.
it would make one badass bong.
LOLLL
If that teapot could talk, the stories it could tell.
Reminds me of my aunt Diane, she had a hoard of antiques in her 4 br home she collected over 70 years! But try and buy something from her and it was always the same lines, NO, that's an investment for my old age! She bought a rare painting once in 1944 for $ ONE Whole Dollar! In 2005' she had it appraised at $150,000 dollars.. he said would you like to sell it and she said NO thanks! That's an investment for my old age and he said how old are you and she said 85'.😂 two years ago at 99 years old she passed away and lived like the poorest person in the world! She left me and my sister everything! We were dumbfounded when everything sold in 22 lots at 27.8 million dollars.
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Dave-- It's your cousin Rudy... I'll be over in a bit to talk about my cut.... HaHa :)
@@WonderWhatHappened 😂😂😂😂
And the daughter immediately sells it.
I would agree
I would sell it. Rather have the money on my savings account for rainy days.
......for some sweet stinky weed.
Phoebe Layton but what if you ever want a cup of tea someday? THEN what ever would you do!?
I know my son and his wife don’t want ANY heirlooms that I possess. Sad.
I have a vintage teapot. Passed down from mother, got it from country Aussie neigbours, to dauhgter. Tarnished old aluminium. Dented. Tea stained inside. Lost its lid. But authentically Australian. Namco brand. Long since defunct. Made In Australia. Everybody wants a cup of tea and a locals chat from it... But it only holds 4 cups...
I like this show. TY
OMG I haven’t heard that little WGBH Outro jingle in over a decade at least. Just got some vivid flashbacks
That’s a beautiful tea pot.
Watching this Sept 2020..old lady from 1998 Long gone 20+ yrs later..and I'm sure now in some tich collectors house, after daughter sold it well below value at some local gallery..
Our family heirloom is great grand dad's false teeth. But my grand dad broke the two front ones off. So my dad's favorite song was all I want fir Christmas is my two front teeth. And it'll probably become mine as well
I don't understand why the expert doesn't ask "do you know where the creamer is?
Or "who were the ancestors"? And where were they from"?
That info would make the story more interesting.
He asked her if it was part of a set, and she confirmed it was. She didn't bring them, and didn't say she had them. So he filled in the blanks "as with many sets, they get broken up."
Don´t take for granted what the gentleman said. E.g. you will find very seldom just EP for electro plated, but EPNS, which means electro plated nickel silver. This advice was useless (at least to me). Also that the silversmith was an Huguenot will not tell many people, what that means (without Wikipedia). It is wrong, that tea or coffee pots where sold as "sets". Why? Because it was just unusual at that time and it would have been too expensive for most people to buy it at once. More important: besides sets for emperors and kings/queens, creamers from the mid 18th century just don´t exist. Sugar boxes have survived. Tobacco boxes have survived. Why not creamers? Because it was not usual to drink milk or cream together with tea or coffee, at least in western Europe. They had little jugs to pour hot water into the drinks, because tea was made as an extract and then thinned with hot water, like in Russia or Turkey.
I shoul add to this that my knowledge is based upon the literature I have access to (which means that I have a library and I dont rely on the internet sources) and also limited to central Europe, not including the UK, and a 50 years experience.
@@vonpfrentsch I accept your knowledge. You saved me google time 🥂
@Alan Brown You´re fully right!
I love antiques but I would be sorely tempted to sell it - $20,000 is a lot of money, at least to me!
This old chick is probably in a seniors home. Old people don't spend much
If it's been in the family for over 200 years you'd be an a****** to sell it.
I could just enjoy a good cup of tea right now...
As soon as granny is feeding the buzzards it will be sold ...lmao 🤣
Appraiser: I would say that this tea pot is worth about twenty thousand dollars.
Old lady: I'll take the money, in cash!
Ooooh that’s good to know . Yeeeeeeeeeeees I’m going to Barbados .
It’s so amazing to me that stuff like that can get passed down i got a ring from my great uncle that I hope to be able to pass down as his father/mother gave it to him no one wanted it as they had given their kids so much he was gonna donate it to goodwill I’m like no I will keep and I will make sure it stays in the family I’m 4th generation to own it. Don’t know much about it I know it not worth money but sentimental value it is.
Sadly after many generations treasures like this teapot are disposed of by the new owner not recognizing its monetary or historic value.
My parents inherited a gigantic solid oak trestle dining table with drop-in leaves, all hand-carved and with a wooden urn-shaped decoration underneath on a little sort of wooden platform, which had been brought over on a ship from Scotland at great expense by my father's ancestors. It came with six chairs (including one especially ornate one with armrests and a high back). The whole thing including the chairs had been put together without a single nail, all dovetailed joins by some master woodworker.
They sold it. I begged them not to, that generations of family who were desperately poor had starved rather than give it up, but they said it was too heavy, they didn't like the style (they preferred IKEA modern), and it was too large for the dining room unless they removed their cheap china display cabinet. They didn't even send it to auction. They sold it through the classifieds for cash to someone who clearly understood its value better than they did.
NoJusticeNoPeace I’m so sorry to hear that...I can understand the frustration that that must have caused you...such a valuable and meaningful family heirloom went away just like that 😢
@@ianlest I like to think it at least ended up in the hands of someone who would appreciate it properly for its craftsmanship.
NoJusticeNoPeace I’m sure of that! The way you described all of the pieces made it sound like a true gem...I’m sure it’s somebody else’s treasure now.
I agree that’s why I always look at everything my mother throws out because she loves to throw anything.
Beautiful
$10 says the daughter takes it to pawn stars within a week of inheriting it.
She's a niece, her Aunt had no daughters.
It would be nice to rejoin the creamer with the teapot but the creamer is likely just as precious to its keeper as the teapot is to this woman.
Here we are 20+ years later, her grand daughters have just showed up to the silver&gold greeted by chumlee
I collect them and it would look nice in my collection
Just before the revolution WOW
And we get to see it before the next revolution. How ironic!
Why does everyone on this video say shes gonna sell it or she should sell it? This was from 1998 that woman is probably gone to glory now.
Or downstairs for selling the teapot
Why ? Next month my mother will turn 99. Probably will make 105. Some relative of my late uncle is 106.
@@axiomist1076 The key word here was probably.
@Mel J Okay....
Ack! Too much reality! 🙉
WOW!!!
Fine workmanship
Wow, that’s a very cool antique to have! I hope no one in her family watches this because they will most likely sell it after she passes away.
You can thank Jan for that...
If I could afford to, I would donate it to a museum to be enjoyed by many people. It's lovely.
If I could afford it I'd solve world hunger.
If it were one of my kids that it was past it down to it would be sold in a matter of days
Mom left me a 1988 Dodge Aires. Not worth much save its sentimental value.
I'd say that...conservatively...your Aries is worth.....for insurance purposes...$1.98
😂 That's nothin'. My mom left me a miserable, fat, matted persian cat named Joyce. Thanks Mom.
@ 2:01 Her waiting to hear the big price. 😂
A tempest in a teapot.
She wouldn’t sell it for all the tea in China.
Say goodbye little teapot
lotsa
green tea
in that old pot
Nice
20000
That'll buy a lot of prunes and scones
Help....I've found some very old things that im not sure of value imparticular a doll that by the clothing appears to have been made maybe in the early 1900s can anyone tell me where to start qith all of this...plz and thank you
Two granddaughters be fighting over who gets the family heirloom so they can sell it for scratch
Hmmm, $20,000-. Immediately gets a copy made and sells the original...
Have something like this crashed in price even this post few years?
He should have been wearing gloves I reckon. Obviously it's a valuable item & he knew that.
The only fair thing to do would be to cut it in half and give each granddaughter 1/2 of it
It will probably be sold next generation. Most younger people these days are not collectors of antiques and heirlooms. Sad. I have a lot of my grandmothers things but no one wants them so I will be selling them soon.
$20,000.00?
Grandma gets a twinkle in those baby blues.
Sell it while there is a market for the item.
I wish he would've told about the handle on that pot.
The daughter and granddaughters were thinking how to split it 3 ways.
Nice people , civilised
As soon as she croaks her daughter will sell it and get a used car.
Lol
Or blow it on weed and groceries
20 000, that's a new car!
1750 teapot. The owner was just a teenager then.
Is anyone else bugged by the way he is handling it?
It didn’t increase in value in twenty years. Someone might have found another hundred of his works in an attic.
That’s a great family heirloom. All I received was high cholesterol.
Cool
Was it one of the hundred or not?
During an exhibition in 2018 they displayed 170 items by Pelletreau. This tea pot was not part of it.
vonpfrentsch thanks!
" I have a daughter, who has 2 daughters herself."
Just say granddaughters .
D5DRIFT too difficult for you to understand?
The father is black, tho.
Sold... 😁
Wow
Its brautiful !
$20000 of 1998 is $30000 in 2018.
But 20k in the S&P 500 with dividends reinvested would have appreciated 256%. This is something to keep in mind when assessing collectibles as investments.
That recent re-appraisal price is what the object is appraisal nowadays for.
It doesn't work that way, if nobody is collecting it the value decreases. Only reason why certain pieces stay inflated is because of the hype an artist has achieved from skill and craftsmanship. This teapot may have a constant value because of the silver content of the pot and it's only 1 of 100 pieces existing on the market.
No. $20,000 has gone down in value due to inflationary prices since 1998. 🤔#Awaken
@@silverschooner5821 Most antiques have declined in real value in the last 20-30 years. They're just not as collected anymore.
$20,000 Is that the most expensive tea pot ever?
Nowhere near. Officially certified by the Guinness Book of Records, the $3 million Egoist teapot is the most valuable in the world. regards
She’s looking to pawn it to support her gambling habit.
I have a Tea Pot from Scotland, currently kept in my Storage, that was past down to my Mother from her Mother, my Gran. This was past down generations before. I would be interested to its possible Historical vaue
Rick at Pawn Stars. I will give you 275 bucks.
Well obviously !! Rick is taking all the risk here !
Sell it granny. Go vegas and have fun.
the house needs on completely new roof ..... and there is a $20,000 teapot on the table ....
My instincts tell me she sold that teapot as soon as she got outside
@Peace Freedom. 😅. That's funny, but no way that nice little lady was just so happy to save it for her family which was sweet.
Chaaas CHING
Its 2am, what am i watching...
IF it was MY Teapot, heck...
i would SELL IT INSTANTLY, this Lil' Momma NEEDS 🏧 💰 $$ TODAY,
ha ha HA HA! 😝 😂
"cha-ching!" 🏧 💰
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LOL family heirlooms are like trophies that show how long your family line has been able to avoid destitution. The second someone needs some heroin or gambling money it is goodbye tea pot.
All the cynical comments about the daughter selling later 😅
Poor thing....she wrecked her Oldsmobile on the way home. She was okay, but destroyed the teapot.
Even a destroyed silver teapot is worth a lot in silver value alone.
2 granddaughters...right...which one gets it?
That's deffo getting cashed in when granny dies
Must be nice.
why does he say 'patina'? i thought silver had 'surface', but not patina.
Obviously don't know anything about natural colorazation
The patina is the term used for the micro scratches and abrasions on old silver. It's indeed the correct term. And this piece has a nice patina indeed.
@@asheland_numismatics tarnish also right
And now all the local criminals know which house to rob
Take the money and run, before the kids sell it!
I bought a 28" long tray with handles, it has the letters RPS Y1107 and 24(Ln?) By Gorham. I tested it with the silver tester and it turned out that it is silver, it weighs around 10 pounds. Do you have any way of how much worth? Thank you for share you wisdom.
It's almost certain that the daughter will sell it because in this day and age, people don't seem to care about heirlooms anymore. It kind of shows how shallow we've become as a society to prefer instant gratification rather than anything thoughtful.
youtube ventura.nu - Shallow... or broke.