Behmor tipps and tricks by inventor Joe Behm
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2022
- What is the best workflow with the Behmor roaster? How can I get the best taste out of a Behmor roast? Who roasts 90+ coffees with this machine? What is the Behmor inspired program?
In this interview, Joe Behm, the inventor of the Behmor Roaster, reveals tips, tricks, hacks and information about the Behmor Roaster that have never been released to the public before.
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Thank you, Joe Behm, for supporting the people working in coffee, especially the women who are mostly made invisible in the global coffee culture. Helping people to feed their families, survive and (hopefully) smile is the most important thing you do. You make a great machine, but even better, you feed and care for families.
Oh my - to see and hear the man!!! Thank you for this. We have an old 1600 and a 1600+. The old 1600 started to slow down last night so we are taking it apart today. The 1600+ is going strong. Over 100's of roasts on both.
3 buttons... that is us. I follow the FB group and am always amazed at all the tech people have connected to their roasters.
Thank You Joe and God continue to keep you in the palm of His Hand.
Thanks for your kind feedback!
Thanks for sharing this video and for having Joe as your guest. He really has impacted my home coffee roasting experience in a positive way. I love the Behmor!
Thank you so much for your kind feedback, Mike!
I love your videos and all the knowledge and value you give to the home roasting family.
Best regards
Ingo
@@CoffeeRoasting Thanks Ingo. I appreciate your content as well. Did you happen to ask Joe about the Jake? Just curious if there was any news.
Yes! Had this for a year and have now been doing this!
Great info. Thanks Joe. I hope you're doing well.
Bought my Behmor roaster from Andy Freeman (Coffee Snobs) 8 years ago. Roast 400g twice a week and it's still going. It did need a new drum a while back but that was supplied quickly. I use the C button every time - as Joe said, it gives you a "bookmark:" for the time from the start of first crack. I picked up the tips for light roasts from this video and will be trying it out next week. Thanks for the video.
This has been amazing to hear the inventor of the machine i want so bad educating us about coffee one day i hope to pick one up
What was inspiring chat to listen to.
Thank you so much for this.
Thanks for your feedback 🙏
Joe, when we bought our first Behmor 1600 plus from Roastmasters in January 2015, we got to speak with you at length about your ministry of donating your roasters around the world. What a wonderful impact you’ve had in the coffee market and the amazing outcome that we home roasters are afforded for buying the fair trade farmers’ beans. My roaster has been a workhorse but the number panel is acting up, so I just ordered the new 2000AB Plus today! So excited to continue our journey. From air popcorn popper, to your 1600 Plus, and now anxiously awaiting the new model. Thank you Joe! Hope to chat with you again one day!
Thanks for your kind feedback, Lori ❤️. I will forward it to Joe
@@CoffeeRoasting I received the new roaster, but the chamber was wonky and upon my first roast, it didn’t stay closed and opened up up, and caused a fire in the roaster. It made me so sad, and scared. So I had to send it back.
Early on, I "lost" several roasts that took a while to get all the way into first crack; even using the + button I couldn't get the timer to extend long enough to finish out first crack. It was incredibly frustrating! Only after I found the manual mode information and what "C" does, was I able to get reliable full roasts. I've roasted the way Mr. Behm advises here for years now and found he's absolutely spot on with this advice. Now with an additional 1600+, I've launched a successful coffee roasting startup and have been able to share delicious coffee with more people and make enough to reinvest in neat experimental extras, like barrel aging!
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Interesting to hear. If you want to share some of your successful profiles that would be valuable for the community
Thanks very much for this excellent interview. So valuable to hear the inventor speak about the best practices and his motivations for his invention.
Yes. He's a legend and most roasters we are looking up to today have initially started with a Behmor roasting machine.
Fantastic content. You should have an affiliate link as this has convinced me to choose a Behmor rather than going full DIY 👍. The founder is an incredible guy, the Behmor inspired programme is astounding.
Thank you for your kind feedback. And thanks for recommending an affiliate link. Funnily enough, there is a company with the same name as our channel that sells the BEHMOR machines 🙂. You can find them here: roastrebels.com/en/coffee-roaster/behmor-roaster
I try to use the C button when I remember, but a lot of times I am half way through 1C before I remember so I try to guess when it is time to hit cool most of the time but it still comes out good. Sometimes it starts 2C Just after I hit cool and it tastes great. I'm currently roasting a Colombian Huila Timana "Women in coffee" from Burmans. Very good coffee. Thank you Joe for helping these people. They deserve more then they usually get.
Thanks for your feedback. The C button also prevents from roasting too dark. If you realised, you forgot pressing it then make sure in any case to watch your roast carefully.
Wow thank you very much sir.
Thank you for your kind feedback 🙏
You know, John Nanci, recommended the Behmor for my cacao beans in 2019 when I purchased it. I really like the video because I had not roasted much coffee because my old condo had chemical fire detectors. Cacao roasting was usually fine, but the green beans always set the darn alarm off. Now I have a newer place without the chemical fire alarm.
Thanks for your feedback. I don't know about cocoa roasting, but coffee roasting produces quite some smoke. But the machines are light and mobile and can easily be used outdoors or under a kitchen vent.
Very nice video! What a surprise.
Thank you 😊. I am very happy, he gave us a visit.
Excellent interview. I'm on my second Behmor roaster - still with the original model, bought in 2014. I forgot that I can hit the 'C' button. Does that work with the original model? (The original model has no P5 manual mode). I usually use P1, sometimes P3 for a slower roast. If I had the newer model I would roast like Joe Behm suggests. Hit the C button....and listen for second cracks
I do listen to the bean cracks for guidance always- though my machine is noisy. I usually go till I hear the beginning of second cracks for espresso, then hit cool, and about 20 seconds later open the roaster door.... I roast on the back porch, and let the remaining smoke go into the air. I roast 11-12 ounces at a time usually once a week. Only one coffee drinker in my household.
The Behmor roaster is the most practical of the home roasters, from what I know, because one can roast more than 8 ounces at a time - also it's not too expensive...and it has a good amount of smoke suppression, though I prefer to use it outside on the back porch anyhow. I've read people say you won't save much money - but where I live high quality (fresh) specialty coffee's - with roast dates on the package now cost around $17 (12 oz.) - and I can buy green coffee for $5-8 per pound from Sweet Maria's, Happy Mug, or someone local. It saves me money.
I do the dry roast once every 5 roasts as Joe suggests - but I'm way overdue to open that side panel and clean out the fan, etc.
Simple Green All Purpose cleaner is still available. Had to order it from Amazon as my local Ace Hardware only had various scented versions which I did not want.
I am thinking about getting into coffee roasting and I am between this machine and the Gene Cafe. I usually make lattes and mochas and rarely drink a cup of coffee; perhaps doing my own roasting will change all of that. This video is extremely informative, not only because of the interview but your clarifying questions have helped tremendously! I don't even have this machine, but after watching this video and your other videos of this machine, I feel like this is something I could do with great success AND I have a step-by-step list of instructions to follow. Thank you.
I had a Gene Cafe and am on my fourth Behmor. The glass drum on the Gene Cafe takes longer to come up to temp and also takes longer to cool down at the end of the roast. I prefer the Behmor.
@@Mercury1955 Thank you. I have spent several hours and several days reading, taking notes and doing comparisons. I like the idea of being able to roast in the house (removing one variable from the process). I am definitely leaning in the direction of a Behmor.
@@sandywoods992 You're welcome but I'd like to add that unless you have a good external exhaust fan you can't really roast indoors with either roaster. They produce to much smoke. Especially if dark roast. I roast mine outside on our patio. In winter I just wait for a warmer day and roast a few batches to stock up for during the colder weather.
@@Mercury1955 Alright then, I will do the same. I do have an downdraft in my kitchen. I don't know how "good" it is, but it might not be worth trying to figure out. I read that smoke is an issue, but with all of the roasting videos I have seen, I haven't seen a bit of smoke so I was starting to wonder about that!
Joe, you’re doing God’s work with your donations programs!
This man really has his heart in the right place.
I can't hear the first crack on mosts coffee roasts. I usually hit D when temp hits 300 degrees and P3 when I hear the beginning of the second crack and then go by bean color (which sometimes is hard to see on a Behmor).
In general, it's easier to hear with more dense coffees (higher grown). Other indicators for FC are: beans are extending massively, chaffs are being released in a high number, more smoke.
What temp do you preheat to? Or is it more of, you hit start and let it run for 5 mins?
With 380-400g which weight button do you use? I’m assuming 1lb.
Do you change the basket speed?
In the manual they recommend to start P1 for 100 gramms and then manually stop when the timer reaches 7:00
When roasting a blend (more than one) do you "blend" the green beans before roasting, or after they have been individually roasted? I'm thinking AFTER they've been roasted, as each green bean has different first crack roasting times.
You can do both. For home roasters I recommend to blend afterwards to roast each coffee to the perfect point.
Commercial roasteries are doing it differently, some do pre blend, some post blend. They have to take processes and efficiency into consideration as well.
@@CoffeeRoasting Thank you 👍
How high do you preheat? I preheat to 244 (in order to prevent Behmor's safety feature). My machine then gradually climbs just over 300 F before the fan cuts in at 7:30 minutes so I can't get to a higher heat. Are my roasts doomed or can I try some other tricks to accelerate heat? Thanks
Joe recommends 90 seconds of pre-heat, period.
What I have found to work well: I preheat to 250 for smaller batches, (up to 250g) and i preheat to 290 for larger batches (from 300-450g)
also, I have a k type temp probe that measures air temp in the roast chamber. Even though the fan kicks on the air temp in the drum continues to rise.
@@braxtonjens7839 Thanks
I'll try preheating a few degrees more.
How do you vent a behmor for indoor roasting?
You should place it under a vent like e.g. a kitchen vent.
Can the Behmor be used as a sample roaster? If your main roaster is a 5 pound machine.
Yes, it could. But there are machines that are much more precise like the Kaffelogic Nano or Nucleus Link or the drum roasters like Hottop or Aillio Bullet. Those machines are often used as sample roasters. I personally see the Behmor as a classic home roasting machine.
What is the difference between the 2000AB and the 2020SR? I think I want this machine over the Gene Cafe' but I am not sure what the 2000 and 2020 difference is.
Hi Jerry. Thanks for your kind message. The 2000AB is the US version. 2020SR is the European version.
Kind regards, Ingo
@@CoffeeRoasting Thank you.
Wish I could hear it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand your comment. Are there any technical issues with the video?
Is there any news on the Behmore Jake roaster?
Not to my knowledge. I can recommend you to join the Behmor Facebook group, where Joe also is present.
@@CoffeeRoasting Yeah I’ve done that as well. I’ve left comments and even tried to message them, no response. Quite frustrating.
What am I doing wrong? I'm having to do two roast just to get a crack
Maybe too many beans, to early lowering the power setting, wrong setting of the power input (you initially set the roaster for 220, 230, 240V).
I’m on my second behmor and I disagree with him about the C button. Do you want to shorten your roast and run out of time? Use the C button.
You can always add time with the + button. It also is a safety procedure. It happened, that people forget the time before the C button was established.
I have had a Behmor for 5 years, the heating element has started to go as the machine will not come to temp consistently. I like the Behmor, it has treated me well; I like a drum roast but am wondering if there is a better solution for brightness in the cup as I like more modern fruit forward roasts. My very large caveat is the safety feature...this is not a stress free roast; that feature makes me want to throw the machine off a cliff...literally. I mean no offense, it is just the worst and unnecessary...before the behmor I had a modded Ronco rotisserie acting as a drum roaster and there is no danger even at higher heats as no one thinks this is a set and forget process. The safety setting is a tragic design decision imhop because it is a very good home machine, the only manufacturer smart enough to allow for a larger batch roast at 1lb possible...not many home roasters do this unless you are willing to pay 1,000+. I guess like anything you take the good with the bad. On another note, indeed Joe is doing the Lord's work with the Behmor Inspired program; great generosity should be rewarded and that program alone makes me want and pray for Behmor's success. Well done!
Thanks for your kind feedback!
I'm sorry but the audio of your guest is terrible. Can barely hear him.
Sound should be okay. But I am talking on the right channel, he is talking on the left channel. So you might check that you are either watching mono or put in both sides of your headphones.
all i want to do is go smash that C button. idk why
I used this ‘oven’ twice and I realize I wasn’t really impressed with the machine.
First, the machine can never preheat up to 395F. It only goes up to 300F-308F. That’s it.
Second, it’s a pain in the hand to put the drum in the preheated machine that will burn the hand easily. It is a struggle to put the drum in, and by the time it’s in. The oven has lost some of the preheat…
Thirdly, I can never detect any audible first crack. As the matter of fact, I can only rely on my nose and vision to smell the burning and steam or smoke coming from the machine. Then decided it’s time to press the C button and press P2, P3, P4 or P5! Then the cooling button.
Lastly, I can’t never seen able to roast the beans pass to medium dark brown. It always turns out to light medium brown. In other words “Light roast”.
I’m currently working and learning on how to operate the commercial coffee roaster. It can goes up to 395F-430F or more without a problem.
But if you want to roast a little bit darker, you either 0:05 prolong the roasting time with less powerful heat or roast it in full power with shorter time. But time runs out, it is still not dark enough!
It’s not easily to manipulate the color palette I want from these beans in the machine!
The worst part was the beans are roasted inconsistently due to its lack of horsepower…
I’m wondering if your machine is defective. I can say that I and it seems many others have no problem roasting at different levels. First crack happens easily and is very audible for me as well. I only have the 1600+.
I would agree. No problem hearing first crack, I can reach 330 degrees, although it will cut out with the safety feature if I do, and I can roast quite dark.
we made another video where we go more into details on roasting profiles: czcams.com/video/78gvZgE9Bng/video.htmlsi=e-JNfOaya9lI1GMr