What If The Soviet Union Never Collapsed?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 14. 07. 2022
- Check out today's epic new video that asks the question "What if the Soviet Union never fell? " How different would the world be today? Watch right now to find out!
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*Fun fact:* There are actually a ton of works of fiction (many of them made before the collapse of the communist regimes) in which the Soviet Union is still alive and important in a futuristic world. The 1968 dystopian science-fiction novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheeps?" (set in 2019) and the 1987 cyberpunk anime "Bubblegum Crisis" (set in 2032) serve as great examples of such works
It's like this in Ender's game as well, the Warsaw Pact gets talked about a lot in the book
Cyberpunk 2077 has the soviets still around because the original table top was made in the eighties
Oh yes i did actually
I have actually read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", but I personally don't see where you feel a connection between that and a communist empire. I felt like it had more to do with postapocalyptic anarchism.
Do ANdroid Dream of electric Sheeps isnt that the Book that influence the Movie Blade Runner?
âTrust takes years to build seconds to break and forever to repairâ
thatâs an amazing quote right there đ
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@@shaynewheeler9249 what
Betrayal never comes from your enemies. :v
I've saw this exact quote here on this channel so many times that I am pretty sure that it bots who post it in a comment section
@@DekriteN09 ok did not ask
"I want affordable healthcare"
USA: *So you have chosen, the electric chair*
@Hydra Dominatus in russia not our soviet motherland
Wrong.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 Correct. Health care is so expensive that if you have no money, easily treated diseases are big threats.
That's messed up! Really messed uo!
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" Trust takes years to build, seconds to breaks and forever to repair"
That's an amazing quote right there đ„°.
Awesome quote đ
Popular one too, if only more people were to take it more serious.
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same quote from different accounts. The comment section on this channel is full of bots
The pilot episode of the show âSlidersâ had them travel to a a world where the Domino Theory had happened in favor of the USSR and the USâs economy shrank until it collapsed and the Soviets conquered.
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Infographics should do a video on âWhat would North America look like if settlers never came and wiped out the Native Americans?â đđ»
Yes!
It would look like Guatemala or Boliva.
@@thegaminganimationstudio7976 nope. Those were settled by Spain
@@EonServoXA they are mostly native american though
@@thegaminganimationstudio7976 Are there a lot of natives there? I had no idea
That was superb. Please make more âwhat if?â videos like this.
This would be one of the most epic comebacks in human history!
The rise of the Soviet Union was brillantly portrayed in the 1974 mini-series "Fall of Eagles". Aside from depicting the decline and fall of the Russian, Austro-Hungarian, and German empires from the mid-19th Century to the end of WW1, it also tells the story of Lenin (played here by the legendary Patrick Stewart) from his youth to his rise to power. The series ends with the emperors overthrown and plunged into misery (Charles I and Wilhem II exiled for the rest of their life and Nicholas II and his family horribly executed) while Lenin is triumphantly received in Moscow, achieving what the imperial eagles could not: become eternal.
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Imagine wanting affordable healthcare and a decent living wage being seen as communism
So what your average Democrat College Student thinks?
USA is an episode of The Twilight Zone.
When you say such while being funded by the commies and waving around their flags and shouting their slogans while also advocating for the collectivisation of everything, people might get that idea
@@OfficialFno not really? Lol whatever thatâs supposed to mean đ
Actually, communism would be very good if Karl Marx was there instead of Lenin.
"You can't HEAR pictures!"
The thumbnail:
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@@kianvandenberg6364 Sadly this never blew up
That's wishful thinking : Soviet Russia after a military would have followed China and experienced the same ascending path while the West would have fallen even deeper than in our time line.
No
No the difference is China claim to be communist but very much are not at all. That method is simply used to suppress the masses while Soviet Russia was very much deeply run through communism. China are more a capitalist nation than anything else. North Korea is an example of how it would look
I partelly agree.
USSR was bankrupt, coup attempted in 1991.
China implemented economic reforms in 1978.
Don't both ussr and china have heavy corruption like the moskva ship was built in a ussr member state so high corruption that it barely even moved out of port
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what if earth's resources increased by 15%?
Or if we actually tapped our oil instead of funding rogue evil states.
Not a game bro
Not gonna happen, especially under Communism.
@@crossfire1122 it is bro đ
Inflation gonna decreased expect gov is corrupting
It would mean Putin would have never become the ruler of the USSR, he was just an unknown colonel. USSR would have handled any potential nuclear standoff way more responsible than Putin. Discontent would still have existed among the satellite states, but Moscow would have closely monitored the economic development of china and attempted to learn from them. The USSR style communisms would have morphed into something else, perhaps a hybrid system ruled by the old guards.
Stalin is rolling over in his grave knowing his closest thing to a predecessor is a power bottom for Xi like Mao was to him lol
"Give me all your food, and il support you militarily. Eventually"~ Stalin in a world of new industrialation and escaping of famine
"Heres all my satellites states food, cheap. CROSS ME AND YOU'LL ALL STARVE!" ~ Putin in a world of a world with finished industrialation, purged of famine in all the power house nations where even the warring tribes are supporting unheard populations
I can't help but feel the tension in the air. Your vivid description paints a concerning picture of the world's current state. Stay safe out there, and let's hope for better days ahead.
If the Soviet union never fell we'd get the events from "My friend has been living in an alternate reality for seven years"
What's that?
@@uja11 a creepypasta story
@@nigel_saxon thanks, I'll look it up
Such a great story
Alternate history will always be more interesting đ
Donât lie but Infographic videos are the go to videos for when on the đœ đ
Rather watch something that isn't this channel. :v
Swear
Man ADHD got me on a trip with this video. I've done so much and had so many different jobs watching this hahaha my brain just logs off for a sec and then I'm off somewhere else hahaha
Do some more shocking history stuff if possible pleaseđ
Awesome video mann
They took sharing is caring to a whole nother level
Well, they didn't share. There is a thing called personal property, which is something you own. Private property are things like banks and more.
More like the elites take all the good things and give the garbage to the people equally.
@@MrDosonhai It sounds more like capitalism to me. In fact, you probably don't understand how communism works
@@MrDosonhai the elites profit off schools, health care, and jobs. The rich and powerful get all excitement and we go on with boring lives.
@@MrDosonhai Capitalism ignores g l global problems. Many island nations will go underwater because according to capitalist logic: It's all about money
There never would have been an internet in the soviet union to cut off from the west or for vpns to help get some information out. The internet developed a half a decade after the soviet union collapsed. The minor networks that existed before that were more of a primitive chat/messaging network and or a reference library connecting some universities together.
There would have been two internets. The Eastern one would have been mostly used for education and surveillance, turning the country into a vast boarding school, while the Western one would be more strictly commercial and too costly to be used as a leisure.
@@MrMirville Possible, but I don't see them wasting the resources to develop something that could have even a tiny chance of being used against them.
Sounds pretty good! :D Minor correction - Soviet republics were part of USSR, so Lithuania and Estonia did NOT had 'their own armies' already.
i love where they explained what it would be like
>"They would be behind in the Internet race!"
>USSR literally did the run to the moon before the USA
The enemy is both too weak and too strong propaganda kinda beat
What if the Soviet Union had re-adopted the NEP (New Economic Policy) of Vladimir Lenin? Please do a video about that. Thank You
The perfect timeline
Basically it'll be the Red Alert 2 Soviet Ending lol
The UPSIDE DOWN would be a reality
Upside Down Russia, is actually a better Russia.
Video about HIMARS please!!!, Thank you!
"The breakup of the Soviet Union is a national tragedy on an enormous scale only the elites and nationalists of the republics gained." - Vladimir Putin
Youâll take my life but Iâll take yours too
Youâll fire your musket but Iâll run you through
-Iron Maiden
Perfect video to watch
Who wants to have a rebubububilulution !
Dang it !
I hoped in a more moderate point of view..
For the Soviet Union to avoid collapsing, it would need to be reformed under Mikhail Gorbachev. Gorbachev tried to save the USSR from its dissolution by reforming it, but a failed 1991 August coup d'Ă©tat attempt prevented him from successfully reforming the country.
If he succeeded in reforming the USSR, the USSR would have became the "Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics", the New Union Treaty would have been signed, the 1991 August coup would have never happened, the USSR would have been one of the modern-day communist countries along with China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba, and the Cold War would have continued into the 21st century, as the collapse of the USSR marked the end of the Cold War.
@Greg Davidson The USSR could have reformed like China if it wasn't for a failed 1991 August coup attempt.
Can you do a video on "what if the ussr successfully saved the Afghanistan's communist gov?"
that thumbnail looks terrifying
When are you finaly going to make a series about American cults.
Please do a video on how depleted the Russian military is so far because of the Ukraine war. (Video on what that have lost in Ukraine)
i think the soviet economy would have advanced, similar to china but with a more advanced industry in use. Farther in the future hopefuly it could also adopt a similar thing to democracy.
Yeah I agree. The Soviet Union was a lot richer than China in the 80s, so they would have a significant advantage in going that route over the Chinese. I think the Soviet Union would own a controlling majority in most companies but it could allow the companies to pretty much participate in the market. The country would still be sort of Socialist on paper because the government owns a controlling interest.
Now It sounds great
It would still collapse after some time :3
Nice vid
Love it
If it didn't fall down I would be happy
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@@user-jh1pe2mu8j I would absolutely be fine with that. So lets bring it back yesterday
@@Loryan777 I would probably die in labor camps or from starvation, the communist government doesn't like people who don't like communism.
@@user-jh1pe2mu8j I don't care liar
@@p.1492 bruh I see you don't know what the Soviets were doing.
1:52 therefore he was not a Communist but instead a Revisionist
So, basically, what would have happened if Putin had taken power earlier?
Make video about Semion Moglievich
If this happened, idk if Vladimir Putin will become the leader of the Soviet Union or idk if Dmitry Medvedev became the leader of the Soviet Union
my life would be better
"Cool moustache, Wario"
VERY INTERESTING
What a hilarious caricature of the American world view.
Another idea: Gorbachev did what China did, economic reforms and a free market policy, but keeping a tight grip on the political side
Then my life would completely different
Soviet and Russia just gives different vibes
Basically its like North and South Korea but West and East Europe
stop giving me hope with those title. I need to remember I can barely pay house rent.
His head scar looks like the Korean empire
Why did they use a sickle. I remember my parents had me use one told me I need to learn how use hand tools, hand saw, base= drill, sickle = weed wip. You would think a country with all the oil will put a weed wip on flag.
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Yes you are
Wouldn't "Digital Iron Curtain" have been a better name? đ
Weâd be singing Stalin in school.
GOOD
Idk but I expected that somehow the reforms of gorbechev managed to save the Ussr
You do such a good job at describing and explaining things good job wrightersđ
I always wondered how America would be if there was never a revolutionary war
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffet.
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Do one about what would be happening now if Russia never sold Alaska
Its worth a video but as a native Alaskan I can say the huge oil boom of the 80s would have never happened. The oil recession of the 70s wouod have never healed over, which have lead to a inadequately supplied military meaning the U.S would have never had the oil to supply a USSR level military never allowing it to fully contest a full strength Russia earlier potential for re-expansion.
High yield mass production in the U.S likely would have never started back up, so we wouldn't have become a economic super power again meaning China would have possibly never become a economic super again having nobody to main justiciation of their exports
It would have effected NATO drastically. Likely forcing Brittain to step back up as a military super power leading to heavy tensions by the allied former colonies, but potentially leading to a collapse of NATO as nobody maintains their presence allowing a reset allowing the East to achieve something like global hegemony similar to the old Chinese empire on a more global scale paired with a more stable Russian backing
I can do that for you right now. Russia would have more oil and natural mineral deposits. The end.
It is likely that the british would take Alaska by force since the Russian Empire had no way to actually hold Alaska (This being the primary reason Alaska was sold).
Then we would never watched Borat so collapse was good
The 1987 miniseries AMERIKA set in 1997 - now on CZcams.... depicted America ruled by Soviet Union 10 years after an EMP sneak attack (not in miniseries-from novel) assisted by Soviet controlled UN troops that fenced off about dozen blocks of US states with plans to make them "independent" puppet nations. First nation planned was 5 midwest states to form HEARTLAND and secede from USA. Though provoking even if padded with soap opera like sub plots)
Leaked topographic maps of the US showed this is what they wanted
Somehow I think it is extremely unfortunate that the Soviet Union has fallen apart.
I would like it better if America could fall apart like this..
Joe Biden is doing all he can to make that happen
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in that case he is doing well.
I just hope I get to experience it in my lifetime.
Mainly seen from Europe.
Just like the breakup of the European Union and NATO.
The principle of the European Union and NATO was good in itself.
However, over the years there has been more and more corruption in the European Union and NATO.
That's why it's better that they break up too.
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The US is already falling apart
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If only dreams came true
There is a movie called world war 3 1998 which is an alternative world similar to this
It was simply inevitable that the Soviet Union would fall. It all started with Leonid Brezhnev, as he cracked down on political activists in the Eastern Bloc, and worsened the already brittle Soviet economy.
Yes. The brittle 2nd largest economy on the planet.
@@feuccj5542 Indeed the Soviet Union had the 2nd largest economy, but by 1975, they spent most of their resources on maintaining their military and nuclear arsenals.
The soviet union today will work - Russia is a democracy and people have more rights in Russia under Putin than a republican controlled state. It is also a capitalist system - the grain imports + other oil depots will make a return to strengthen the russian economy/// The problem is if the people are going to forgive russia for invading and conquering their countries or will it be constant rebellions.
He swung to a hardline stance after Andropov convinced him to invade Chzechoslovakia in 1968. Had Andropov failed and been sacked, Brezhnev might have listened to Kosygin, who was pushing for serious economic reform.
It started under Stalin
Basically, if the period of civil unrest in the late 1980s ended like the [REDACTED] in China in 1989.
Please make a content about Ferdinand Marcos sr. during his presidential administration.
Video idea:what if the kmt won the Chinese civil war
Nice idea
Then I'd be living to serve a purpose, then
WRONG!!! The putsch in Soviet Union did NOT take take place in 1989âŠ.but in august 1991âŠâŠ..!!
Hmm, I don't remember all this Internet existing in the 80s....
Ussr
It will be peace on earth
No offense infographics, if the soviets we're to continue it would probably be only through Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin either together or Gorbachev alone. The only reason the Soviet union in the stalinist and cold war era survived was that the kgb and leaders were so powerful they ruled through fear
Most educated american
@@RSjs25 truly
you dont mention China which has basically become a sticking point to the USSR in this timeline. enjoying the 2nd largest GDP in the world. with 3X the GDP of the USSR with a larger stronger more advanced army than the USSR with its citizens enjoying a good standard of living much better than citizens of the USSR and a ideological sticking point that communist system can have a capitalist component, this has further sowed unrest in the USSR. Soviet client states overseas beyond the warsaw pact have dwindled to very few with North Korea Cuba Mongolia and Afghanistan being the major ones. Vietnam, Cambodia , Cuba , Nicaragua, and Laos and a bunch of African sates while still having a communist style dictatorial gov. have adopted the Chinese system of communist capitalism in opposition to the USSR. India is still neutral and friendly with the USSR and the USA. Three political economic systems rule the world. USA capitalist democratic system. Chinese capitalist communist system & the USSR stalinist communist system. the USA and China are allies vs. the USSR and whlie both have opposing politicla ideologies they have put aside their difference to oppose the USSR. The USSR by 2022 has become a siege state, becoming a huge North Korea like nation. a shadow of its peak in the 1980s. and unstable putting down unrest all the time. USSR is about 4th largest GDP in the world even outstripped by Japan. Its military while huge has become dillapidated and outdated becoming more of a defensive army. like North Korea in 2022 OTL. (and this timeline too). While it has a huge nuclear stockpile, most of its nukes are old and have not been updated an estimates 75 percent of them wont work. There is no EU in this timeline though there is a European common market. Yugoslavia is still intact and propsperous no civil war occured. Romania is heavilly occupied by Soviet troops after the fall of Caucescu USSR invaded Romania and brutally put down the rebellion and insurgency.
Yessir :(
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Big empires fall so that others can rise in their place, Great empires fall so that they can rise again...
Not all empires are for good.
@@iamaloafofbread8926 America being the prime example of that
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well they did collapse leave it in the time capsule
What do you mean by "IF"??
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