The First Brush - Beyer, Peacock Diesel Electric Locomotive! Meet 'Fat Alf' Lawrie Goes Loco Ep. 35
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Hello everyone,
Today we return to the Middleton Railway to have a look at one of the most powerful locomotives we've yet featured on the channel.
A massive thank you to the Middleton Railway for inviting us to drive 'Fat Alf'
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Photos by Ian Dobson, Mike Barker, Paul Barrett, Alan Wheeler, RCAHMW,
00:00 Intro,
01:00 Overview of Fat Alf,
02:20 The history of Fat Alf,
06:24 The Engine
08:27 The cab and controls,
13:09 Preparation work
19:20 What's Fat Alf like to drive?
35:20 Outro,
A video featuring:
Lawrie - Presenter, very excited to be out on a big diesel
Morgan - Trainee Camerman, the last video he's ever filmed.
Alex - Sound fixer man, doing a good job!
A video edited by Lawrie
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Hearing Lawrie talking about how much he loves the design of the cab to the rear walkway just has me screaming in my head "He's gotta try the end cab switchers in the US!"
He'd LOVE the SD40-2's!
@@PowerTrain611 they're too massive lol, maybe a smaller shunter
I live near a CSX shop and one of the shops switchers engineer showed me the builders plate which dates back to 1960. He told me that they simply replaced its engine with a modern one
Like a snorting dragon when you open the regulator!!!
Brilliant!
The motors sound similar to the trams I used to drive in Birkenhead!
The power in tgat engine is a great sound. It had my sub woofer sending out wonderful deep vibrations across our living room. GREEAAAT!!!
That engine sounds sweet as a nut, and the loco looks just the part too.
Few around as good as this one.
Glad you liked it! 🙂👍
I have real soft spot for side rod diesel locomotives! So much character!
Excatly! Especially outside frames!
That brake van looks unusual because it's not a standard stock goods brake van but an LNER 12 ton ballast plough brake without the plough blades, which sat between the wheels unlike those on the LMS design that BR adopted as standard which were sat outside of the wheels.
Ive driven a few VR Y class Bo-Bo's in my time, always love a good Diesel electric, the sound of the traction motors groaning and the engine at full send in notch 8 while ripping into a grade is just awesome. Gives you a real appreciation for the power your wielding
Couldn't agree more!
That's an awesome little shunter, you can just feel how well everything was designed for long days in the cab moving heavy things that needed to be moved without fuss but with a lot of lovely noise. So easy to prep and maintain on a daily basis too (and presumably a relatively straightforward thing to service), you can see how they really spent their time thinking about the user and what they needed.
Lawrie Rose you lucky, lucky…
Love it, little 0-4-0 diesel, three wagons and a brake van. It’s a 1:1 scale train set !
220hp ? Almost as powerful as my Saab 😂😂😂
A few years back I drove an SNCF B-B 67000 diesel electric. It was pretty amazing I must admit. I haven’t driven a loco for years now. I think the last must’ve been one of Puffing Billy’s NA 2-6-2T’s back in 2009. I miss that so much 😢
All the best mate. Rob
I don't think I could go that long without driving something!
Same hp, many more torques!
Nice wee piece of machinery....👍🏻
Was working away a few weeks ago, up here in Glasgow. Minding my own business on the forklift, when I started to hear a sound that started drown out the engine of aforementioned forklift, had to step outside to see what the (put your choice of sentence enhancer here) was making that LOUD noise....on the line behind work, (where I was) a class 37 showed up and she was wearing the livery of Colas Rail Freight....I'm telling you, the cacofonie that she was making....she would wake up the dead! That being said....I had goosebumps! Only a hardworking steam locomotive would beat that sound....
Not long after another class 37 showed up, also in the livery of Colas Rail Freight, she was sounding completely different though....
More class 37 to the people! ✊🏻
As always Lawrie it’s a genuine joy watching your content. Nicely done ☺️👏🏻
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic video Lawrie, your description of lubricating oil will be forever be imprinted on my brain! "Black Liquid Dinosaur" Totally classic or should that be "Classic Jurassic" 🤔👌
I like that!
Thank you Lawrie for another great Locomotive history & Test Drive video. I enjoy every episode that you put online for us to see.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
There's so much more to come!
God I love this thing. Would be nice to see it back in the red livery sometime. The wasp stripes need to stay, though.
Thank You so much Lawrie M M LI NY USA
You're most welcome
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Sounds lovely that!
Great video thanks again. Looks like a lot of fun.
It was! Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome beast of a loco!! 😎😎😎
I like your enthusiasm and that's a nice little shunting loco
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it
alf is awesome lawrie and so is this video thank you
It's a cracking bit of kit - I'm glad you enjoyed it
Awesome vid! I drive past this every day for work and love looking in at the old steam loco display, and have even seen fat alf once too :)
It's quite the machine!
Thanks for posting this video - a nice reminder of when I drove it (it was on the driver for a fiver when I visited). A great little loco on a great little railway
It's a great thing, and the people there are lovely!
What a great loco. Easy access to everything under the hood and a good cab layout. Well done to the designers. For me it's the sound of GE traction motors. You can always tell a GE powered loco is coming by the whine the motors put out.
It's a great sound!
Very nice engine which runs very well. Thanks for sharing.
You're most welcome!
Fantastic, NEW LGL!!
Hope you enjoyed it!
That is a beutiful locomotive, I love the mint green paint scheme.
It wears BR livery well
Bit of a beast that!!!!!!
Just a bit!
lovely thing to drive
It really is
i gotta admit, i love the sound!
It's great isn't it!
That's a cracking little useful loco.
Indeed it is!
Just seeing the thumbnail, I was cackling at how much the bodywork looks like a cut down Alco S2
Oh maybe it does
The second definition of a tank engine!
She seems like she'd pull the building down and be pretty happy doing it.
Never realized this D2999 is masquerading as the real D2999! Looks very similar!
Yes, and it looks quite smart in br livery
It looks so similar to a class 02! I love it!
There are a number of similarities
The tennis ball is for filling the diesel tank , saves you holding the pump on 👍
Ah makes sense!
That things a beast of a engine. Very similar to our local T class except ours is a 0 6 0. What a cool machine.
Oh really. Great little thing!
lawrie misspelt electric in the title as eclectic
Nope.
Just a trick of the eye...
He did the Arthur Weasley... ^^
It is nice to see this old iron in working condition so people can see where we have come from in train technology. It's all been done in steps as knowledge progressed.
I saw an old two engine shunter where the engines and generators on the ends and the cab in the middle. The engines were 6-110s at 250 HP each the unit was about 6 feet longer that this machine and about the same vintage.
That's a proper beastie!
@@lmm I agree it was a beast, it would have been interesting to know the tractive effort and the speed it would be capable of.
I've seen a similar machine moving a handful of cars on the mainline at around 35 to 40 mph so it was a capable machine.
From Fandom:
"By 1949, [National Gas Engines] had became associated with the Brush Group."
That would explain the use of a National engine in a Brush locomotive.
"This resulted in new methods of manufacture for high volume lines and a resulting increase in the production volume for both horizontal and vertical engines. Brush was a part owner till 1961 when they took National over completely. The company then started trading as Mirrless National Ltd. In 1977 Mirrless-National were in turn taken over by The Hawker Siddeley Group, and merged with theire Blackstone subsidary resulting in a name change to Mirrless-Blackstone (Stockport) Ltd."
Brush's association with Mirrlees-Blackstone continued into the modern era with the MB275 powered Class 60.
Thanks for the info!
If you like that lawrie the 08 shunter is right up your street its a good drive
I'm trying to make it happen!
Were it so easy, Mr Irish66fan; were it so easy...
@@caramelldansen2204 I had an opportunity to drive one at white head the 0-6-0 shunter in black its a throttle reverser and a brake it puts its power down slowly like the D2 litterally push the lever on the left up to start the engine and then move it back down to run and your loco brake is a bar lever in the middle and a train brake lever on the right hand side and a hand brake at the rear of the loco and the reverser is on the righthand side of the throttle
What an excellent little loco, very jealous of the fact that it has a seat and a heater! Pure luxury compared to the Ruston I work with! Brilliant that it has Vac brakes too! Would be a superb loco on any pres line!
Maybe a tad slow for the bigger ones, but certainly super for this.
@@lmm true but still valuable as a loco you can prep quickly and get moving if a train fails etc
Lawrie's Mechanic😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Sounds like a big diesel electric in a small package. Wow, still listening to it as I type. Does it have a blower or is it naturally aspirated? Very cool engine. You can imagine being in a full sized engine. Those traction motors.... Would be interesting to hear with my hearing aid as it has a setting for a telecoil pick up which means as a side benefit I can listen to electrical equipment including the large motors of our local transit system which is all electric. Thanks for bringing this to us.
If I wasn't so thrilled for you, I might be jealous! 😉
It was good fun!
I will love to see those Locos which can run really faster.
Working on it
@@lmm hurry up then!
I'm feel very tempted yo make a model of 2999!!!
One day you should come to the states and do a couple videos with American steam locos!
I'm hoping for next year!
Crazy to think that this was built in the same place as Sir Haydn on the Talyllyn
Love your videos... When I saw "Beyer, Peacock" I had expected a steam mallet of some sort. 14:44 "You can be sure when it's..." Westinghouse air compressor.
By the way, what is the size of wheel? John BC, Canada
It would have been funny to hear the laughter echoing around the tunnel on the way out 😂 23:59
You could almost hear it over the exhaust!
The engine is seven cylinders, many litres and 24 spark plugs short of a Centurian mate. I can't recall a British tank using a 5-cylinder diesel. Maybe an armoured car?
Nothing beats alf on the tallyllyn alf is the god of engines nothing can beat him even tho big alf is the engine we are talking about nothing can beat original alf
A chunky thing! Did the drivers ever miss using coal, this must be a lot cooler & cleaner in the cab! Thanks Lawrie 🙏🙏
I doubt it with things like this
Nice looking machine. I've never heard a National Gas & Oil engine in action before, so it'd interesting to hear what it sounds like. Is it started the usual way with diesel electrics, by cranking the main generator from the battery?
I'm afraid I don't know.
That does ring a bell, but it was a while back we filmed this.
Great sounding and looking loco. It Looks very similar to the BR 02 class diesel shunter. I wonder how they compare?
I'd love to find out!
I work on Telford steam railway and I have driven a 0-4-0 shunter called jammo quite similar to that except it’s a Ruston Hornsby but the rods are powered by a rear wheel wich doesn’t touch the rails
Oh is that the 165?
We did one in episode 1 of LGL!
@@lmmyes just like it except br green wasp stripes and numbered D2971 and it has the original Ruston engine
This train looks really cute, id chose this one if someone was giving me the option for a free train
if i read the Description correctly , this is the first Video with Morgan as cameraman ?? i think he did a damn good job
It was his fourth, and last video he shot
aah , good luck to him
Хорошее видео! Даже не зная языка, понятно все!
Glad you enjoyed it!
D2999 I forgot it had a National engine, which is almost as rare to find as a McLaren one. it was in the BR Green Colours long before the rocker pedestal incident (which I think was an oil starvation problem )
Oh was it - that's not what they told me 😂
@@lmm Not certain if full paint change detail is in the stockbook or loco page and I would need to check my photos too as it is one of my favourite locos I should have all the reported shed notes somewhere in the limited Quant of Old Run back issues I have but they are a bit inaccessable to me at present inc the rocker saga ( cannot recall how it was resolved presumably new one made as unipart rail didnt have one )
The tennis ball is to stick in the trigger on the fuel pump when filling her up. Truck drivers trick.
Ah clever
Well lawrie on thing about diesel engines is that you really don’t want to let them loose prime otherwise you in trouble
Na, I want to see what this could do
Newport in Wales is only an hour up the road from me 😅
Oh it was local to you then!
its interesting to see all the different types of shunters the UK has, in my part of the US I don't see that many different types of loco as there aren't many preserved, now I do have a question if you could drive any American locomotive what would it be?
Oh the variation over here is super.
A k37 or it's got to be the big boy
@Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels you need to have a go at the Western Maryland 1309. It is huge, and I know you'd have a ball with the old steamer
That makes me sad because my granddad worked there during the 1970 and early 80
At the Middleton? Super place to be involved with!
The guys in the brake wan must have been suffocated in that tunnel 😖
He took a deep breath before
@@lmm I am pretty sure I choked to death during the filming that weekend
@@Taggart00 naaaaa
Real life Starter set locomotive
It's great isn't it
Now you know why the driver and fireman always have a rag hanging out of their pocket.😉
It's a useful thing to have 😂
I doubt that this locomotive didn't have brakes prior to being fitted with train brakes. All the diesel locomotives in services in the UK a far as I can research were fitted with either vacuum or air brakes that worked on the locomotive only (and I'm going back as far as the building of the LMS's vacuum braked 1831 (introduced in 1932) and the air braked 7050 (introduced in 1934). Some later locomotives were also fitted with train vacuum brakes, such as the LMS's number 7059-7068, which had locomotive air brakes and train vacuum brakes. Even the diminutive no 11104 introduced in 1950 for BR and built by Hibbard Planet had locomotive air-braked. All brakes were worked off the same controller.
11 minutes in and I was correct about the locomotive having it's own brakes (air brakes as was fairly typical), but not about using a single controller as it was a retrofitting.
I have a question. On a diesel locomotive with coupled wheels, how is the coupling rod on one side arranged compared to the coupling rod on on the other side? Compare to a steam locomotive where they are offset by 90 degrees. I have plans to build a model of one, but I am not close to any examples. As I typed that I realized that I am near one - but I never get a chance to see it.
They're still off by 90.
@@lmm Thanks. My modelling exercise was inspired by the War Department loco "Overlord" that you featured in "Lawrie Goes Loco Episode 18".
@@PhilRMcGregor I enjoyed that one - it's a great setup down there
Only been in that thing once and that was to unscrew the handbrake during a shunt
It's a great thing!
@@lmm its a thing off wonders lol, I much prefer 45 though, a lovely thing to drive 😉
@@Steven_20031 it's on my list of things to do!
SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Did any of these engines have a tops number or were they confined to private industrial use.
I'm fairly certain the br scheme is just for show, these only really had industrial use
I don't think the real d2999 had a tops number.
29m53s see if guard happy? Not after full of application loco brakes! Clank clank clank bang?
He suffered only minor whiplash.
Is it ULEZ compliant ?
It's a hybrid!... Right?
It’s an American inspired design it seems.
Impressive specs for such a small Loco,
British Rail Class D2/11
Maximum speed 18 mph (29 km/h)
Power output Engine: = 180 bhp (134 kW) or
200 bhp (149 kW)
Tractive effort 19,200 lbf (85.4 kN)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_D2/11
It's not bad!
If you thought that was good, you are going to have to blag a ride/ drive in a Class 37 😃 (English Electric type 3)
26:27
Good isn't it
how come you never seem to check the sandboxes :D
Because we don't need them 😂
The unsung little workhorses of a bygone era.
Yep!
HEY HEY HEY! IT'S FAAAAAAAAAT ALF!
Is that an AN tie I spy?
It was!
waire is youre plase id love to come and see the joist tracker hyster i used to drive them at silverwood
This is the Middleton railway
@@lmm oh at leeds ill come round its only up the m1
can you let us know if its not to busey at weekend as we are disabled and how nuch it is we was going to come tomorow to make easy amount
Why have you stopped driving your ruston?
Because its currently out of service.
Big update coming soon though!
Up the wales
i cant think of any tank with a national engine
I'm just going on what I was told
4a so it is a 5 cylinder...sure.
I'm going on what they said.
It's got a manifold with three exhaust banks, and one with two.
I notice that every time you come out of the tunnel you give a little "pap" on the whistle.
Is this an "Alf and safety" compliance thing?
"Alf and safety"...see what I did there?
...
...
I'll get my coat.
Oh dear. 😂
Cameraman face reveal plz
That was Morgan. He appears in lots of videos
how many habilitations has this guy??????
He's not fat! He's just a little bit :(
Festively plump?
it was long scince steam
"Greta from Sweden" hates this!
Wikipedia entry for BR D2 says D2999 is preserved, but Lawrie says in this video that D2999 was scrapped and this is a similar locomotive from the Steel Company of Wales? Does someone need to correct the Wiki entry?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_D2/11
They do indeed.
D2999 was scrapped.
Yes, Alf isn't D2999 it's just dressed up as it.