Adetshina throws SA's immigration laws into spotlight
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- #ChidimmaAdetshina's citizenship debacle has brought SA's immigration laws under scrutiny. Immigration expert Stefanie De Saude-Darbandi says Adetshina needs to be protected because she's South African. She says South Africa celebrated with comedian Trevor Noah when he embraced his Swiss heritage and she says the same should be done for the 23-year-old.
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ALL HOME AFFAIRS WORKERS MUST BE FIRED BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SELLING PAPERS FOR YEARS, WHICH MEANS THERE ARE MILLIONS OF FORRIGNERS HAVING FRAUDULANT PAPERS!
I'm telling youthis case there is a million of chiddima if we really want to sweep we won't miss our siblings among us I beg
it is a FRAUD for a Dark skinned man to LIE that he is COLOURED,
Not all are implicated I worked with good workers at DHA they helped me a lot when we were working together Today I know what is going on there.My uncle's wife was in the same problem with duplicate IT'S.Its the officials at Home Affairs that worked with certain group if evil government officials.
It was a struggle for me until I was a winner.
Don't say millions unless you are including Europeans and Asians.
Unfortunately, your madness will not prevail.
Notice how in their discussion, there's no mention of the South African person whose identity was stolen. As a result suffered for 23 years 😢...
Ya, women's month don't apply to her!!!
Nothing is being said about that person in most videos.
is because the EFF and all this failed nations thinks that SA is about the survival of foreigners
They don’t care at all! 😮
Are you even sure there is such a person all sounds vague.....no one even politicians havent called gor that lady to be found....this case will die down after the pagent....they would have mentioned the suspects name her mother by now. ...miss SA is just saving face here
Leave Trevor Noah out of this foolishness, he never disadvantaged anyone to be where he is today.
stolen identity is a black person lying that he is coloured,
stolen identity is a black man lying that he is coloured,
Oh because he is European origin 😂😂😂😂 Voetsek
@jjjjkk-tm9yd How is he of European origin? We know his grandma and mother. He is half African and half European and was born and bred in South Africa.
Please show your face, and let's judge you from there
@@tendanipelaelo6293 But his Dad is not even African...
These are the consequences of a corrupt STATE
Voluuume please we are in this mess because of corruption
So as women we must tolerate corruption.
Imagine what nonsense, how many South Africans must suffer because of crime, identity theft and fraud. These people have no feelings for ordinary citizens.
It is corruption when black men go around saying they are coloured,
Ya, so as women, we must tolerate the other young SOUTH AFRICAN lady whose identity was stolen!!!
Good question
Good question
Trevor Noahs mother is xhosa, and Noah knows the culture and history of this country, plus languages so bad example
Chidimma is father is black but coloured. liike gayton
what culture and language did the GUPTAs have when you issued them Citizenship. Is Guptas mother xhosa too
This is a terrible example to make... When the guptas were caught out, was the red carpet still rolled out for them??
@@Gen_Xto add to that where are the Gupta's today
@@jameskillu9171 the Gupta's like chichi's mother allegedly acquired citizenship fraudulently, an investigation was done with the Gupta's and a finding was made
She doesn't concider SAfrican please don't talk about Xenophobia
It's xenophobia for sure.it's afrophobia indeed..totally agree with her whn she says: South Africans think they better than people from the rest of Africa.
@@mohameddiallo7775we don't think we better. We are better and on the best country in SouthAfrica. That's why your black ads is here
xenophobia is giving Guptas citizenship when they have no south african mother or father and denying it to chidimma,
@@mohameddiallo7775we dont think we better. We are better. We'd never go live in Nigeria.
Newsroom please don’t bore us… what kind of pathetic framing is your ‘expert’ trying to start? Let her speak on laws not her opinion on how she thinks South Africans should handle things. Le tla re leka julle moer
Feel compelled to stand with a thief?? What about the child whose life was /has been at a standstill and empty because of this family??
This guest is out of touch with what South Africans go through with competing for hospital beds and places in schools with millions of illegals.
What about the victims of identity theft and fraud? What about their feelings, their lives. Woman please South Africans are tired of crime and now you suggest we should wear kit gloves.
Chidima was not stolen ,she was taken by his biological father ,a stolen child is stolen by a stranger
Issue are not the laws, issue is how her mother got the papers illegaly.
You are spot on.thats the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the title.
It's strange how illegals always want to point out the shortcomings on our laws.
Go fix the laws there
stolen identity is a black person claim to be coloured,
so easy, show us the south african mother and father of the Guptas who you gave citizenship.
WE ARE NOT CELEBRATING FRAUDSTERS AND SCAMMERS
NEVER EVER!!!
She can still be Nigeria’s first female president.
plus she's hot, she gon' be a hot president.
Who is this woman? Maybe we should investigate her citizenship?
😂😂😂
Yes
Very intelligent and unbiased mindest from this woman. The south African home affairs man that spoke here. Lacks prudence. Cos. He doesn't know that, when we celebrate with south African flags or any other countries flag, its not cos we are citizens, its just a normal human thing. There sre some tupical south africans who needs to be properly integrated. It should be a thing of joy, if not that jealousy plays so much here in SA, especially when it xomws in between Nigeria and South Africa, that at least someone beautiful is born in this country by foreigners. Chidimma thus mustn't worey you cis they are not Gid abd will never ever rake away your beauty. There are beautiful things waiting for you ahead. You will soon be miss world Chidimma ❤❤❤
She is from gayton colourless family side
@@jameskillu9171She’s not speaking about Zim, why do you care?
Nonsensical journalism🙌🏽
Ai this lady can make a brother's blood boil!!! Yerrrr!!! How can we have empathy for this girl when there's child out there who's ID has been stolen for 23 years!? She should be investigated
Adding to that..where does woman's month enter in her mother's fraud...her mother must come here and clear the air gahhhh !!
She really dug up some tired excuses to defend this girl
The father lied about the mother.He said mother is South African then it was found that she Mozambique.The girl is not South African I don’t know why is this woman protecting her.
She never said Chidimma should not be investigated. She's saying you people should have more empathy for her because she was an infant when the alleged fraud took place so she obviously did not consciously committ the crime. And if there's anyone at fault, it's prolly her mother for committing id fraud(if she did it knowingly and without help). The situation is still under investigation and until proven guilty, Chidimma should be treated as an SA citizen which she is. But we know that's not happening because u guys just hv so much hate for her...u didn't even need the id fraud story to throw hate and bully her. Just because she has Nigerian heritage
Nigeria would never allow a Naledi Motaung to contest in Nigeria's beauty pageant since it's not a Nigerian name and surname. There would be an uproar
i'm not happy at all guys,,no one of you is talking about our tax money that she was enjoying as social grant and NSFAS ..and her mum was also getting our tax money
Her mother should pay every single cent cos my tax is doubled because of her
Where are you from Stefeny? Can we investigate her?
I saw a comment that she moved here with her dad🤭 you can hear her answers
Unfortunately your example is not relating Trevor's mom is xhosa , do your research before you make an example
We have Indians and Chinese who have their India and China as their countries, but we never attack them, and they live freely and are citizens of South Africa
100%
This lady must be investigated too, i suspect she is not south african 😂😂😂
after researching her, she definitely isnt. moved here with her dad lol
She's mozambicans potugees.
But it is always falling to majority minority are allowed from Albania to Scotland the foreigners means black person
@@user-ey9qd8ph8rthat the thing, we turn to use racism we’re it not needed, white they follow the rules and get their citizenship.
She should be investigated for diagnosing your sickness. 😂😂😂 Jokes on you.
Never underestimate the power of South Africans when they stand together, even politicians and celebrities couldn't shut us up. Proudly SA... I'm super proud and happy we spoke abd the truth finally came out.
Even Journalists where calling us names...now everyone has an oponion about the outcome.
Power against one young girl, Get serious OLD woman,
I share your sentiments! Proudly South African 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Well said they should never try and take our sovereignty and voice away
Proudly SA and thank you PA
@@jameskillu9171 clearly you don't know what SA has been fighting for against foreigners committing crimes in our country, she just put it out there but underground we are fighting babes. Where do you think the xenophobia nonsense came from? It came from us fighting for our country following the constant disrespect we have to endure from most Nigerians living here.
So how she feels is still more important now after finding out someone's life and her kids was affected!!! Why must south Africans life always not mater when ut comes to foreigners!!
Trevor Noah’s mom didn’t steal an identity . Don’t do that
Even before they discovered the alleged identity theft, u guys were already bullying her...we all know that's not the only thing this is about
@@gloriauwakwe3706because we knew as black black people from South Africa she's not one of us. Her name is not south african. She doesn't know any black south african languages. She doesn't represent any black south african culture. But you wouldn't know that because you're not south african just like her
@onlyinmzansi6784 yes I'm not and I actually don't think it's wrong for South Africans to not accept her to represent. It's actually fair because we'd prolly do the same in our country if a complete foreigner is trying to represent us. But imjust wondering why this treatment is only given to Nigerians in SA. If not, could u tell me why Sherry Wang, the chinese woman didn't get the same resistance like Chidimma. This leads me to believe that its more of a 'Nigerian issue' than a 'foreigner issue'
I disagree with this woman, law is law.
Guys Chidima is a human being like all of us , she lived here all her life according to the news. why are we hating on her so bad, why are Africans have to go through such hatred. Tribalism, xenophobia,racism, are all discriminatory
Very sad indeed!
Rubbish entire life, stolen citizenship? U r crazy
Stand with who?this woman is out of her mind,mxm
Painful to listen to this woman,giving too academic answers
Tripping over her own feet
This woman is biased
@@thalithamngomezulu457she is simply being objective and intelligent. Unlike our prospective prostitutes who were buying for an innocent child's blood.
Chichi has identity, remember she has been married to a fellow Naija guy, if her father had not registered her there, then marriage did
Stupid interview...
The journalist himself is biast...
Another foreign person abvious she biased
Xoli is so hurt😂😂😂
We are not talking about that how about the identity of the person who suffers
What abuse??? At 23 you should know your family history. Beauty queen was taking chances😂
Not when ONLD black men are confused to say they are coloured
As if you know yours
@@roshneeshunmagum1945 May be you how your mum got pregnant to birth you?? The style your dad used in doing it, Was on bed or in bathroom? Did you mum also tell you if she enjoyed it on not ??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 May be President Zuma told his kids that he was stealing government money right?? Hey kids am a corrupt president 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No kids knows everything his or her parents did before or after she or he was born. Its ridiculous to even say you know all about your parents...
@@ljihanzu8462😂😂😂😂exactly very dumb comment this one. ....like the mother will just tell the daughter "hey i stole someones ID"....how many people only find out in their middle ages that their fathers are not really their fathers....talking about 23😂😂
@@DAVINCI85-i4hloving the 🇳🇬tears 😂😭😭
South Africans can fight we just being let down by politicians, thank God for Gayton.
Very intelligent and unbiased mindest from this woman. The south African home affairs man that spoke here. Lacks prudence. Cos. He doesn't know that, when we celebrate with south African flags or any other countries flag, its not cos we are citizens, its just a normal human thing. There sre some tupical south africans who needs to be properly integrated. It should be a thing of joy, if not that jealousy plays so much here in SA, especially when it xomws in between Nigeria and South Africa, that at least someone beautiful is born in this country by foreigners. Chidimma thus mustn't worey you cis they are not Gid abd will never ever rake away your beauty. There are beautiful things waiting for you ahead. You will soon be miss world Chidimma ❤❤❤
oh, the confused man who cant look himself in the mirror to see his dark black colour,.
Futsek wena mlungu
😂😂😂😂Yazini uyasphaphela lesisalukazana
She's out of touch with reality
Chidima is not a victim here , she knew . Stand with who? This woman doesn't even care that SA lady suffered for long.
stolen identity is a black man lying that he is coloured,
How do you know she knew....based on what😂...besides your dislike of her
@@DAVINCI85-i4hhold the L 🇳🇬... She no longer in the comp 😂
What about the people whose identity has been stolen? Did the mother had empathy?
This is not about Xenophobia. Stop labelling South Africans asking valid questions about this matter as such.
Trevor's mother is a South African
Her father is Nigerian and her mother is Mozambiquen dont you get it lady!? This lady should be investigated. Newsreaders are paid actors remember that people.
Thank you I agree with you 💯☺️
Which abuse? Questions are abuse now?
News room ba pusha their narrative straight😂how the hel do they invite a person who take a side of a perpetrator or instigator,do u understand the pain of the person that is been living for 23 years without that identity book that was fraudulent.
He was just so bad with Ian camaron got him under false pretense he is a very bad journalist don't like listening to him
What’s really sad is the ladies identity who was stolen !
I think the lady started knowing Trevor 3 years ago, since 2010, as South Africans we've all known Trevor Noah and he always talked about not knowing his father well and only being raised in Soweto by his Xhosa mother who is South African. He only visited Switzerland n for shows in recent years after his success in the Daily Show, nonetheless he has a South African parent unlike Chidimma
I personally don’t care what happens to her. She was allegedly an infant at that stage. The party whom committed the fraud wether home affairs or her parents must face the legal consequences
My goodness are this lady saying that her mother steall
l someone's identity unknowingly. !!! Someone life and rights were taken 23 years ago and you want to water it off. Sometimes we must put our selfs in the victim shoes please!!!
You see this mainstream media is fool nonsense they always out of touch this is a serious matter South Africans a crime has been committed here she's not a Victim!
And we are always told we must be properly educated 😅
You cannot compare to Trevor Noah.. When Trevor held up the Swiss flag, he did so in his private capacity, he was not representing SA. Likewise if a South African cricket supporter of Indian descent holds up an Indian flag during a cricket match, does so in his private capacity, not as a representative of SA.... Please understand this difference.
Unfortunately during war, there are innocent people who suffer the causality of exploding bombs. This is a serious war on South Africa by Nigerian Makwerekwere. South Africans are finally getting a chance to fight back because they pushed the ANC out of their way! So, this Argentina is caught in the middle of a raging war against Makwerekwere!! I agree with Kunene that all these so-called Human Rights lawyers needs to be investigated to see if they are real legal South Africans? Where do they come from?
You are also a makwerekwere, remember that
😂😂we have a long way of addressing corruption in this country if we use that woman's logic
Jealousy is too much in many south Africans. She is beautiful period, take it or leave it. Cry or love her, You can't take out her real Identity "beauty from God"❤❤❤
Another woman’s identity was stolen by Chidimma’s mother.
And that woman whose identity was stolen- struggled to register her own child- according to home affairs.
I will spare my tears for Them instead.
I have nothing against Chichi, she is unfairly being targeted as a proxy.
stolen identity is a black man lying that he is coloured,
What safety concerns?
Its the constant gaslighting coming from her
With that surname you can't pronounce, she needs to be investigated too.
Leave Trevor alone. His mother is a Xhosa woman and he is proud of being a South African.
Europeans will handle this case differently as long as it benefits the nation,Afticans are in petty things
There is no way that chidima did not know about this, a whole 23yrs old?
ANC corruption. Hope this stops. We are tired of the corruption and the corrupters are still in parliment.😢😢😢
She is a Nigerian human being .
She is a daughter of a Nigerian and we love her .
What is this Indian lady saying? A crime has been committed here against the real victims, which are the mother and child that Chidimma and her mother stole their identities and made them struggle for 23 years! Is Chidimma the victim or the person who's identity was stolen?
The South African who's identity was stolen and struggles are not being spoken about 😮 we must all focus on her emotional wellbeing?
HELLO HELLO THE IS A 23 YEAR OLD VICTIM AND HER MOTHER WHO HAS SUFFERED FROM 23 YEARS.
WHY ARE YOU POEPLE SOO EVIL AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS??
WHY WHY?????
Couldn't have said it better 👏
People prefer SAs to suffer while we tiptoe around because we will be labeled xenophobic
They should not gaslight us. Empathy for evil? No! She knew the truth at this age and she chose arrogance
stolen identity is a black man lying that he is coloured,
IF CHIDIMA WAS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA OBVIOUSLY SHE IS A SOUTH AFRICAN.
SHE IS NOT THE CRIMINAL VICTIM HERE.SHE IS INNOCENT. LET HER BE AND WIN THE COMPETTION .TAKE IT TO NIGERIA OR TAKE IT TO SOUTH AFRICA
IT'S HER CHOICE.
WHY ARE WE BEING SO JUDGEMENTAL?LET US ALL FEEL THE PAIN FOR HER.
AT23 SHE'S ONLY A CHILD
LOVE YOU CHIDIMA.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU.
Yes, and the South African people will stand together. We are not xenophobic. She knew her mom knew...they all knew...all those involved, local and foreigners must be kept accountable. This country are rotten to the core. The fish rot by the head first...that should say it all.
Everyone are worried about this Chici...what about the ID that was hijacked...what about that!!! This identity theft lead to many others linked to her mother...the all and always work in groups and we want an apology from her and her family!!! Charity starts at home. For so long all of those in charge been taking us at face value...
we all know stolen identity is a black person lying that he is coloured,
Instead of using Trevor Noah as an example she should have used her self instead, Trevor is Xhosa and she is European, she should not get big headed.
Swiss not xhosa .
@@bonganiking3214 his Mom is Xhosa, and by law is a South African
@@bonganiking3214He never was Swiss( just skin colour), his mother is not married. He was raised by his martenal grandparents.
Chidimma they can take your passport or whatever but nobody can takeaway your divine beauty ❤
How brutal and cruel. Someone's child has lived 24 years without an identity while someone else went on to represent our country as a Miss South Africa with her identity. What a shame 😢
Identity theft & citizenship fraud are two different things
The point they are missing, or love to hate.
So this one called expect say foreigner cannot commit identity fraud alone. So if it happened with assistance of home affairs official make it correct? I didn’t comment about Chiddima
I agree with Steph on this one!!! 💯💯💯
What about the mother that was robbed?
guys, please let us stop this hate for blacks we are all black people please
I guess by feeding our children drugs is the sign of love
Timidity is a problem for most South Africans. The fear and worship European and faint at rhe sound of Nigerian. Chidimma your beauty is excellent and a wonderful gift from above. Your citizenship is beyound africa. I send my sympathy and love to support who God made you.❤
If this was an European scenario we could not hear this conversation African hates themselves
100%
those jolofs she was celebrating with in that video must protect her.. shes beeen taunting us. hasuka man.
Chidenma is a beautiful and intelligent young lady,she can apply for Mozambican Citizenship,she certainly has a bright future ahead of her,❤ u Chidenma wish u the best.
Power to freedom of speech Kenny i stand with you she must go back to Nigeria coming z she's a Nigerian by heart 😂😂😂
She doesn't speak about the pain of a woman whose identity was stolen, so she's biased.
Kenny must speak with his brain not his emotions.
With who did she live with in South Africa why couldn't the people who she live with come forward and stand by her
Well said steph
Thank you, Mem. I will say it over and over again. DA must rule SA.
The DA KNEW A LOT OF WRONG THINGS BUT KEPT SILENT ABOUT IT GLAD GATON SPEAK THE TRUTH 🙏
I dont believe chidima was born in south africa.
you are talking nonsense , crime is crime empathy for what ,
I am putting this op for the THIRD TIME! Is Chidimma CULTURALY...CULTURALY....CULTURALY a SA?? Meaning What: which primary and secondary SOUTHAFRICAN SCHOOL did she attend????????????????????????????????????????????
How the heck does this woman mean by saying that their parents have different nationalities but she is still a SA how is she getting that right
we are xenophobic, we are uneducated, etc. you guys are insulting us. we have a lot of black foreigners in the country that are working in different fields in the country and we never have a problem with them. why don't you ask us why we don have problem with black foreign doctors lecturers and doctors and sports men and women in the country but instead, we have a problem with Chidimma. of course, if we give "europeans" a pass, we also give a pass to a lot of African foreigners in the country, why don't you ask us why do we not treat all of them like Chidimma? you are disrespecting us and you are acting like it is Nigerians that keep your channel running.
we told you clearly that this is a specially black south africans representation issue. we don care if she plays in a hokey team or represents south africa in the rugby team - we care about her being our cultural ambassador. she is not the embodiment of our south african black culture, so, she cannot represent our south african black culture as a miss SA. That is what we told you, but you still going on talking about irrelevant things like her citizenship. how can you be a news channel that has zero journalism. you are speaking totally out of context.
I get you, we are being told that she was born in South Africa, and lived her whole life here. what does that now say to you?
another thing you are addressing culture, SA is multicultural country, we are diverse country, with different cultures from ethnic groups, is Chidima's father's nationality the problem or is it her the problem for embracing her father's culture? what's the issues here?
Maybe we should also investigate this Stephanie Dabanji's citizenship status
Its simple.Chidima must go and compete for Miss Nigeria
This woman has a spanish surname. She might be an SA permanent resident rather than a citizen, meaning she might an immigrant herself. Which is why she is protecting illegal immigrants as well.
Very intelligent and unbiased mindest from this woman. The south African home affairs man that spoke here. Lacks prudence. Cos. He doesn't know that, when we celebrate with south African flags or any other countries flag, its not cos we are citizens, its just a normal human thing. There sre some tupical south africans who needs to be properly integrated. It should be a thing of joy, if not that jealousy plays so much here in SA, especially when it xomws in between Nigeria and South Africa, that at least someone beautiful is born in this country by foreigners. Chidimma thus mustn't worey you cis they are not Gid abd will never ever rake away your beauty. There are beautiful things waiting for you ahead. You will soon be miss world Chidimma ❤❤❤
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I agree with this woman 1000%
The young woman is innocent
A person in possession of stollen property can never be innocent
@Qotha fraud was done on her behalf, she was an infant at the time.
You have to focus on the root of the problem and not attack Adetshina.
She has already withdrawn from Miss SA, why continue drugging her name thru the mud?
@@Wiseman424 that makes her document fraudulent and invalid.
@Qotha you have no basis here.
Go after the parent, leave that young woman alone. She will no longer participate in Miss SA (which is best for everybody) so what are u on about?
She's been residing in SA for over two decades! The problem with us Black South Africans is that we feel superior to the rest of African countries and think it is us vs them.
Give it a rest, there are more significant things that need our attention, for now let home affairs and others do their job.
@@Wiseman424 the child got her ID based on her mother's ID, therefore you revoke the mother's ID, thus the child's ID is rendered invalid
the average black south african doesn't live in the affluent communities where "caucasians" live. they can mostly make reference to the ones they live with in their communities
That Trevoh Noah example is out of line. This woman is sick. She can go comfort people who steal othe people's identities. Good for her. She is probably some NGO lawyer.
Her mother needs to go to jail. She was well aware she obtained fraudulent documents for her child
South African home affair sucks they need to be held liable for their incompetent
Where is this Stefeni from, she must go back...
I hope this mess will be sorted out soon and Chidimma may be free to pursue her career in whatever she may choose.
Stephen is not also south African she must be investigated if is not south African she must go
Another excuse. We all know that it takes two to commit fraud in the Home Affairs.