How Helicopters Land in Rough Seas

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2022
  • Landing a helicopter on a moving ship may already be tricky, but it becomes much more tricky in rough seas, when the ship is rolling and pitching. Thanks to the Canadian "bear-trap", helicopters can land a lot more safely. But how multiple helicopters can land on a small ship that only has one landing spot, is #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT
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  • @NotWhatYouThink
    @NotWhatYouThink  Před rokem +140

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  • @Pub2k4
    @Pub2k4 Před rokem +2467

    Major Buong’s story is pretty interesting to me. He had balls to try landing a Cessna on a carrier.

    • @cousin_x_caps7347
      @cousin_x_caps7347 Před rokem +147

      He was South Vietnamese, not North, so it was a friendly carrier.

    • @user-kx4xs2xd3k
      @user-kx4xs2xd3k Před rokem +220

      @@cousin_x_caps7347 but Cesna have a hard time to land in 100 meter runway who move at 30 knots

    • @Pub2k4
      @Pub2k4 Před rokem +141

      @@kirbydr.argentina8135 Major Buong was not part of the Viet Cong. He was southern Vietnamese. They were our allies. They were who we were trying to save from ‘communism.’

    • @angelorivetti5711
      @angelorivetti5711 Před rokem +40

      This story made me cry

    • @kirbydr.argentina8135
      @kirbydr.argentina8135 Před rokem +21

      @@Pub2k4 oooh that's more understable... i think i should read stuff about that war

  • @Nucl3arDude
    @Nucl3arDude Před rokem +1534

    The fact that the Midway's Captain didn't hesitate at all to clear the deck for that Cessna speaks volumes about what mattered to him.

    • @drew2046
      @drew2046 Před rokem +62

      I’m curious if he got in trouble

    • @Warmaster_7
      @Warmaster_7 Před rokem +217

      @@drew2046
      Chambers made Vice Admiral later in his career...I don't think he got into too much trouble.
      The Bird Dog plane is on display in a museum in Pensacola, FL.
      At the time he thought he was going to get court martialed.

    • @Radienleo
      @Radienleo Před rokem +100

      @@drew2046 he did, but later the charge was removed.

    • @drew2046
      @drew2046 Před rokem +51

      @@Warmaster_7 I’m glad he didn’t get in trouble. Thank you

    • @janjanowski9653
      @janjanowski9653 Před rokem +61

      Small question. Why he did not ordered to fly helicopters away to give the room for Cessna, then drop Cessna overboard and take helicopters back? He had 1 hour to do that. I'm not saying his decision was wrong, but maybe this could be better.

  • @Manannan_mac_Lir
    @Manannan_mac_Lir Před rokem +1012

    I enjoyed the pause for effect after “S-HOL”

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před rokem +139

      😅

    • @AZJYouCantAfford
      @AZJYouCantAfford Před rokem +54

      @@NotWhatYouThink my favorite part too. The humor makes these better

    • @pro_gemer
      @pro_gemer Před rokem +4

      haha same

    • @EkinOC1
      @EkinOC1 Před rokem +13

      I'm glad he put it up in words because with his accent it did not sound like S-HOL

    • @skycity9097
      @skycity9097 Před rokem +2

      exactly, me too hahaha

  • @ianlowry6112
    @ianlowry6112 Před rokem +559

    Pretty cool to hear about that USS Midway story. I have been on that ship since it is docked in San Diego and is setup as a aircraft carrier museum.

    • @daviddavidson2357
      @daviddavidson2357 Před rokem +6

      I'd have tossed a note back up to the pilot that said "Jump out, chopper expensive, you not"

    • @stephenpena7813
      @stephenpena7813 Před rokem +1

      Ugh I miss living is San Diego. The Midway has a very interesting history.

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @jamesharrison5004
    @jamesharrison5004 Před rokem +127

    My dad was a navy rescue diver on helicopters. I remember as a kid asking him how they landed helicopters in rough weather. Seemed so simple once he explained it. A life saving device for sure.

    • @Coffeybean117
      @Coffeybean117 Před rokem +1

      It’s funny how everyone remembers us as rescue divers😂. How long ago was he in?

    • @thatswhatshesaid4246
      @thatswhatshesaid4246 Před rokem +1

      @@Coffeybean117 I find that funny as well and hear it a lot. James, it's Aviation Rescue Swimmer

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @bonechawneomusic
    @bonechawneomusic Před rokem +44

    S-HOLE is the best mnemonic device in existence now and all thanks to you. 😁

    • @swetdep
      @swetdep Před rokem

      @WhatsApp①②④⓪④⑥⑥⑧①⑦⑧ bro really failed to catfish nwyt

  • @HaechiYT
    @HaechiYT Před rokem +330

    That last story was insane and you told it very well. I think it would be a very interesting format for your channel, the telling of incredible stories like that.

    • @starr1997
      @starr1997 Před rokem +2

      that's that's good idea! 💡

    • @zperdek
      @zperdek Před rokem

      @WhatsApp①②④⓪④⑥⑥⑧①⑦⑧ go away evil kind

    • @AcornFox
      @AcornFox Před rokem +2

      MrBallen: military edition

    • @AcornFox
      @AcornFox Před rokem

      @WhatsApp①②④⓪④⑥⑥⑧①⑦⑧ this is the dumbest scam i’ve ever seen. who would call a number in a youtube username lmao

    • @rascototalwar8618
      @rascototalwar8618 Před rokem +1

      You should read about taffy 3, it was a light carrier task force in WW2 that decided to fight battle ships (including the Yamato) where one ship on the Japanese side displaced more then the entire task force combined.
      The Battle of Samar - Odds? What are those? is a very well done video on the battle.

  • @fearthehoneybadger
    @fearthehoneybadger Před rokem +790

    Transporting to my ship, I was lowered by cable onto the moving vessel. It was quite a rush.

    • @mrsneakers0266
      @mrsneakers0266 Před rokem +1

      We’re you in a vehicle being transported or were you roped on

    • @fearthehoneybadger
      @fearthehoneybadger Před rokem +37

      @@mrsneakers0266 I was lowered from a helicopter. I was strapped in on the side of the chopper, facing a wide-open bay door. When the pilot saw my ship, it took a hard turn making me look straight down at the ocean hundreds of feet down.

    • @willy-yum5820
      @willy-yum5820 Před rokem +3

      @@fearthehoneybadger which branch?

    • @fearthehoneybadger
      @fearthehoneybadger Před rokem +12

      @@willy-yum5820 Navy.

    • @willy-yum5820
      @willy-yum5820 Před rokem +10

      @@fearthehoneybadger thank you for your service 🙏

  • @revolver265
    @revolver265 Před rokem +398

    I appreciate your longer videos :) nice to listen to while I clean up my room since I'm not really interested in war, but how materiel gets places in the military through transport and engineering is awesome.

    • @DanielBrown-sn9op
      @DanielBrown-sn9op Před rokem +5

      Exactly. Logistics rule.

    • @benjerman4438
      @benjerman4438 Před rokem +3

      I'm surprised you can just "listen" to these videos... while his narration is awesome, they're all very visually stunning as well. A bit of an addictive package really. 😁

    • @deusvult6920
      @deusvult6920 Před rokem

      War drives innovation. If you're interested in engineering and transport you should also be interested in war

    • @firebanner6424
      @firebanner6424 Před rokem +3

      @@deusvult6920 no, because war sucks. Why would I fill my head with murder and injustice when I could be learning about science and logistics. Just a personal choice.

  • @thespectre1106
    @thespectre1106 Před rokem +161

    this is a topic I have wanted more insight on for a while, thank you Not What You Think team!

  • @DodgeI
    @DodgeI Před rokem +119

    that is an awesome story at the end where they portray that life is priceless. fair play to those sailors for ditching the helicopters to save the family

    • @thaedleinad
      @thaedleinad Před rokem

      People say a lot of shit about America but I doubt any other mlitary would ditch 10M in equipment to save 7 people.

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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    • @2Fast4Mellow
      @2Fast4Mellow Před 3 měsíci

      True, true, but do you have any idea how many vehicles including aircraft we left behind in Afghanistan?

  • @ludovicbon5903
    @ludovicbon5903 Před rokem +48

    The frigate in very rough sea is the Latouche-Tréville (D646), a French F70 ASW frigate (class Georges Leygues) . The footage are from the film "Océans" by Jacques Perrin, a french actor and director . The Latouche-Tréville has been retired 2 days ago and leaved Brest, saluted by 21 canon shots .

    • @bbbreizh1139
      @bbbreizh1139 Před rokem +6

      Sans doute une des plus belle frégate de la Marine avec la classe Tourville

  • @whatever_12
    @whatever_12 Před rokem +39

    The Bung lee story is much more interesting than just this.. The aircraft that he landed on the Midway, was kept and put at the "National Naval Museum" which it is still at today!

  • @GamerbyDesign
    @GamerbyDesign Před rokem +47

    What a legend. Dropped 10 Million worth of helicopters to save 7 lives. Proably didnt even have to think about it.

    • @darkking_lp
      @darkking_lp Před rokem +18

      Probably noone on that shipped blinked twice when the command was made.

    • @billymadis0n
      @billymadis0n Před rokem +21

      'They want us to break a bunch of hellis'
      'Yea'
      'Dope, let's push em off boys'

    • @finmueller7827
      @finmueller7827 Před rokem +22

      @@darkking_lp probably cathartic for the maintenance crews who have always wanted to break one in anger

    • @ddjohnson9717
      @ddjohnson9717 Před rokem

      wait until you hear about the USA punch during the Evacuation Of Saigon. Man they spend the 10M well.

    • @zee9709
      @zee9709 Před rokem +2

      im not sure, why they don't just fly that chopper for a moment until cessna land and then land back. Maybe that heli have failure?

  • @Cyclegladiator
    @Cyclegladiator Před rokem +22

    That Cessna landing on aircraft carrier is an amazing story. Thanks for posting

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @PhillipChalabi
    @PhillipChalabi Před rokem +154

    That Cessna landing story is still blowing my mind a bit. I am curious what kind of repercussions there would be today, if a Carrier commander ditched 5-10 SeaHawks off the side of the USS Ford in order to allow an unknown to land on the deck. Seems like that would be something of a career ender?

    • @mikulcek
      @mikulcek Před rokem +67

      And, what an gorgeus reason to end one.

    • @ghost_ship_supreme
      @ghost_ship_supreme Před rokem +11

      They probably have a solution to this now? Like a mini runway. Either that or they’d direct them to the water now, lol

    • @cliffisfuckingawesome3508
      @cliffisfuckingawesome3508 Před rokem +21

      @@ghost_ship_supreme yeah i mean a cessna should be able to land on water safely with those big wings and low stall speed. Especially if the pilot is confident enough to land one on a foreign carrier.

    • @nightwolf7231
      @nightwolf7231 Před rokem +28

      @@cliffisfuckingawesome3508 the only dangerous variable is the children

    • @cliffisfuckingawesome3508
      @cliffisfuckingawesome3508 Před rokem +10

      @@nightwolf7231 yeah, true. I would in that case honestly not now what would be safer. Risking drowning directly or risking crashing on the deck and then drowning. It is cheaper to go for the first scenario lol

  • @LION-NUMBA-ONE
    @LION-NUMBA-ONE Před rokem +28

    Such a Canadian solution to the problem.
    “Sir, we can’t land these helicopters on the ships due to rough seas!”
    “Here, just put this ol reliable bear trap on the deck and run a cable up to the helicopter! Should do the trick!”

    • @joshc3420
      @joshc3420 Před rokem +2

      I went to the navy base on Victoria Island when I was a kid i was amazed at how simple it was and laughed when some kid asked which hunter decided this was a good idea

    • @VashStarwind
      @VashStarwind Před rokem

      Ohh Yeah eh?

  • @hammond2600
    @hammond2600 Před rokem +108

    Been there, done that...........it wasn't fun. Imagine landing 2 MH-53J's on the USS Missouri's helicopter pad that was designed accommodate only 1 H-3. There was no bear trap system and even if there was, we had to land on opposite corners to keep the rotor blades from hitting each other. One main landing gear of each helicopter was right next to the wire at the edge of the deck which meant, the tip tank was hanging out over the water. Me being the flying crew chief at that time, had to go out and place the wheel chocks and safety pins. The inboard side was easy enough but, I had to climb up onto the sponson (main fuel tank), then out onto the gull wing (holds the tip tank) and hanging my head over the side (seeing that the water was very far away) to insert the 12 inch long safety pin.
    On a later landing, one of the pilots (thankfully not on the helicopter I was assigned to) misjudged his landing and smacked the deck hard enough to blow the seals on all 3 landing gear struts, spilling hydraulic fluid all over the deck.

    • @timsgta
      @timsgta Před rokem +4

      Never heard of it called a bear trap, we called it RSD rapid securing device it went around the rast probe as soon as the tires were on deck

    • @dogboy0912
      @dogboy0912 Před rokem

      I hope the seas were calm that day. It's hard enough with a 60 that rides like a cadillac. Can't imagine trying to put 2 of those flying houses next to each other on a deck never even designed for it.

  • @BMF6889
    @BMF6889 Před rokem +2

    I was a Marine company commander during the evacuation of Saigon in April 1975. We were embarked on the LPD Denver. There was a continuous flow of South Vietnamese helicopters landing on our ship. As soon as the people were off, we pushed it overboard while the next helicopters was attempting to land. They were also ditching along side our ship. I lost count of the number of helicopters we pushed into the sea but we ended up with several thousand refugees on our ship alone. The Navy took them all to Subic Bay, The Philippines where we spent time setting up a refugee camp in an area known as the Upper MAU Camp.
    The scene looked like D-Day 1944 with ships as far as you could see from horizon to horizon. Russian recon planes were overflying us several times a day.
    It was an amazing operation.

    • @RadioMan2023
      @RadioMan2023 Před rokem

      So if you went there today would there just be a pile of helicopters covered in coral?
      I would love to see a sight like that
      Or did something else happen to them

  • @flyingbeaver57
    @flyingbeaver57 Před rokem +13

    Thanks for mentioning the Royal Canadian Navy's invention of the Bear Trap. What we lack in funding, we tried to make up for with ingenuity. I'm sorry to say that this situation has not improved in recent years. Those serving in the RCN today, at every rank, continue to do outstanding work.

  • @sydecarnutz972
    @sydecarnutz972 Před rokem +22

    My last job in the Navy before retiring in '99 was rebuilding worn out RAST systems for Navy Cruisers. Very interesting job!

    • @marvsmoir701
      @marvsmoir701 Před rokem +1

      Interesting. Did the RSD cams work? did Beam lock pins stick? New flags w springs?? How did you test the transition going from reel in to recovery tension /snatch load??? I was Navy civilian hardware design team lead, responsible for getting the RAST to work during system test at DAF, and OPEVAL tech expert. on board .good_sstuffatattnet.

  • @vladdracul7810
    @vladdracul7810 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I was in the Navy for 10 years. The helo @0:21 is the SH2G sea sprite. One on the aircraft I worked on. I was on 2 frigates and can tell you from personal experience that landing can get pretty hairy even in calm seas. This is the first time I've ever heard of something called a "bear trap". Didn't have them. We had 2 guys (one of which was me) run out and chain them down as fast as possible.

  • @justandy333
    @justandy333 Před 3 měsíci

    Such a heart warming story at the end. I'm glad the captain of the carrier saw through the monetary value of those helicopters and ordered them to be pushed overboard to allow the family in their cessna to be saved. Military hardware can be replaced. A whole family cannot. Good job Captain!

  • @Vortechtral
    @Vortechtral Před rokem +29

    Go Canada!
    Also, helicopters are just amazing!

    • @xLGNDxII5COTT
      @xLGNDxII5COTT Před rokem +3

      Canadian helicopter pilots are the best in the world, peace from Down Under

    • @fumblerooskie
      @fumblerooskie Před rokem +1

      @@xLGNDxII5COTT You're too kind. Aussi pilots are at the top of the list!

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @RareFrog9
    @RareFrog9 Před rokem +12

    I swear, Navy helicopter pilots got to have the hugest fucking balls.

    • @revolver265
      @revolver265 Před rokem +7

      Flying the original Corsair that would roll you to death if you weren't careful on landing, the fact that if you miss and you don't have the thrust, you're going in the water, arrestor wire snaps, and heli pilots having to deal with the ground coming up to meet them quite literally due to the ocean. Honestly, it's insane that we've conquered the water and put aircraft in it.

  • @paulheywood2116
    @paulheywood2116 Před rokem +71

    I worked for a engineering company that built Australian bear traps never got to see them operate always wondered how it actually looked on the ships

    • @shapurzamani6127
      @shapurzamani6127 Před rokem

      wait what kind of company never shows you what the final product actually looks like and function?

    • @redgai1
      @redgai1 Před rokem +5

      @@shapurzamani6127 many companies, especially for military equipment. Various parts made by different companies, then assembled elsewhere so no one company has the information on how to make, build, and assemble a secret equipment

  • @Solisium-Channel
    @Solisium-Channel Před rokem +16

    Mad skills of that Vietnamese pilot. Glad they made room for him and that life was more important to them though it did hurt to see those choppers being dumped into the sea lol

  • @AnimatorJuusoz
    @AnimatorJuusoz Před rokem +3

    8:45 That guy's ribcage is definitely not in one piece after that.

    • @stinkytoy
      @stinkytoy Před rokem +2

      Man, I've been going through all the comments, and can't believe nobody else noticed or mentioned that.
      That looked bad.

  • @duncandehulst2016
    @duncandehulst2016 Před rokem +27

    Good to see a Dutch ship in this video, had the owner to be aboard a ship in a outside of SHOL landing, it was aborted but looked spectacular. I did feel a little sick, luckily sea sickness pills were readily available xD

  • @Chapy63
    @Chapy63 Před rokem +3

    I’m happy to see this great Canadian contributions being recognize as it should! And there was a bunch of Royal Canadian Navy footage in this clip. It made me proud 🤓🫡🇨🇦⚓️

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

      I do work Asset Manager , Accounts Manager, Tax Manager, Asset Take Care , Asset Representator I Do Work With safe And 100 % Secret

  • @BigUziVert2190
    @BigUziVert2190 Před rokem +7

    Proud that my country(Canada) invented the beartrap

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před rokem +4

      We all have those grizzly bears out in BC to thank!

    • @gargeely4901
      @gargeely4901 Před rokem +1

      @@NotWhatYouThink yeah man, they are nasty. Thanks for mentioning us, seeing our country mentioned feels really cool!

  • @LiebensteinMovies
    @LiebensteinMovies Před rokem +27

    Much more interesting than expected, absolute stunning footage!

  • @ernie548
    @ernie548 Před rokem +5

    I spent 2yrs on a carrier then 3yrs on an FF. Watching our helo land on the FF in rough seas and weather was something. Makes carrier landings appear easy.

  • @taktuscat4250
    @taktuscat4250 Před rokem +8

    The guy at middle right in 8:45 almost fall off

    • @nauuwgtx
      @nauuwgtx Před rokem +3

      He got hit by that horizontal fin

  • @nilspetterhellvik5519
    @nilspetterhellvik5519 Před rokem +2

    We had a guy injured in a snow storm around Svalbard. The helicopter hovered over over our ship. And then picked up casper. He is still alive. Thank you to all rescuers.

  • @domading2759
    @domading2759 Před rokem +2

    I'm a USN vet.. Never saw a bear trap and I was on an oiler that flew helos everyday in every condition for vert reps

  • @RSCL_BEATZ
    @RSCL_BEATZ Před rokem +4

    Canada never ceases to amaze me how proud I am. Canada rocks!

  • @rb239rtr
    @rb239rtr Před rokem +6

    The Canadian navy has never had an accident with the bear trap that caused a helicopter crash. In the 50s, the only ships that could safely handle helicopters were cruisers and aircraft carriers, The Canadian navy wanted to fly off of frigates.

  • @lucse_mensen
    @lucse_mensen Před rokem +1

    Me seeing you using the NH90 in this video makes me smile. I just finished school and I am now waiting for the job application for NH90 pilot to open up again which will be at the end of 2022. Keep up the great content!

  • @gicking3898
    @gicking3898 Před rokem +1

    Damn this is an excellent video. It's not only informative, but there's tons of uncommon video clips in it too.
    Thanks for your efforts man.

  • @merc3065
    @merc3065 Před rokem +8

    Worked with a PO1 who was on the trials for the bear trap. Told me stories of them getting called out whenever seas were rough to trial landings. Another guy I worked with told me about a scary situation during one of the landings where he was hooking up the anti static cable and the ship bucked and his head got wrapped up in the cable, only thing saved him was his helmet.

    • @marvsmoir701
      @marvsmoir701 Před rokem

      Was that the Canadian trials or the USN RAST trials out of Jacksonville of FFG

  • @angelorivetti5711
    @angelorivetti5711 Před rokem +6

    Major Buang’s story made me cry

  • @Lord_OTD
    @Lord_OTD Před rokem +2

    Genuinely mind-blown by this, wow. Great video, this is historical content I thought I’d never be exposed to, thanks.

  • @ariesrcn
    @ariesrcn Před rokem +11

    I was on HMCS Vancouver and watched more than a few Seakings land on the flight deck during rough seas.

  • @scotty2307
    @scotty2307 Před rokem +8

    Very informative video. I was never deployed on a small ship in the US Navy. I was on the USS Carl Vinson CVN-70. On a standard fixed wing carrier, our helicopters did not have any specific system for landing. They just landed on the deck, and were then tied down by the deck crew. The advantage of a carrier is that they pitch, and roll slower, and fewer degrees than the small ships.
    There was one time when I was aboard ship that a helicopter, an SH3 Sea King, suffered rotor damage, and loss of collective control after the rotor ingested the rescue cable. Surprisingly the cable broke rather than shearing the rotor off the aircraft. The pilot was able to descend, and hover over the deck using throttle, I presume, but did not have the ability to land due to the fact that the engines respond too slowly to power input to allow a safe landing. After hovering for a very long time, while a plan was devised, deck crew rigged a block and tackle to the deck, and then a crewman was sent up on the deck crane to attach the cable to the belly hook on the helicopter, and a pair of aircraft tugs were used to pull the helicopter down to the deck where it was then tied to the deck in the normal manner. I am sure that the flight crew had to change their skivvies afterwards. I can not imagine the skill, and concentration they exhibited hovering that damaged aircraft so precisely for what I believe was well over an hour.
    I doubt that any of this was in an emergency procedures book. It t feels like the sort of thing that a Chief Petty Officer would come up with. I am glad that I was there to witness this incident, and it's safe conclusion. It is gratifying to know that even in a procedure centric institution such as the US military, there is still room given to let human ingenuity and quick thinking solve the problem.

    • @dogboy0912
      @dogboy0912 Před rokem

      There is a line in every NATOPS, where it says something along the lines of, "this publication is not meant to preclude sound judgement." There are situations so preposterous that we cannot possibly hope to catalogue exactly what to do in every single one. That is incumbent upon the culture and attitude fostered within an organization to make decisive, thinking individuals instead of drones. It is my hope that every pilot is ingrained with the attitude of breaking a couple of rules, destroying equipment, and living, rather than saying "ah well that's not what NATOPS says" while flying into the ground. Fight to the last second. Never accept defeat. Thank you for your story. As an H60 pilot, this really hit a chord for me.

  • @martyzeenyc1210
    @martyzeenyc1210 Před rokem +17

    Amazing to learn about yet another Canadian innovation!

    • @PeacockPovertyDotOrg
      @PeacockPovertyDotOrg Před rokem

      I concur

    • @marvsmoir701
      @marvsmoir701 Před rokem

      It was a ver y good, basic system. USN modernized it and installed it on many small ships. the real system is below decks. and LSO station

  • @mikemashudu2263
    @mikemashudu2263 Před rokem +1

    Wow the "drop note" was incredible one. It shows how much human beings are willing to go the distance to save fellow human beings

  • @ThomasNeal
    @ThomasNeal Před rokem +4

    Damn that dude had ONE chance to save his family and bloodline

  • @betterwithrum
    @betterwithrum Před rokem +3

    that last one was a tear jerker. Glad that major and his family made it out alive.

  • @davidluchsinger7377
    @davidluchsinger7377 Před rokem +1

    These are some great video clips. I’ve never seen video of a helicopter pilot jumping out of his aircraft into the water to ditch it. Also never heard about the Cessna landing in a carrier! Would love to hear an update on the Buang family. Great stuff!

  • @extremelycreativeusername

    I was actuality wondering what that circular mesh was for on the flight deck of warships, thanks for educating me

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 Před rokem +9

    Another fascinating and very informative video. Although I've heard the story of the Vietnamese pilot before, even as a Brit the action of the US Midway's captain brought tears to my eyes. That's what you call looking after your friends.

    • @glennrishton5679
      @glennrishton5679 Před rokem +1

      A shame the US chose not to look after friends in Afghanistan.

    • @rob5944
      @rob5944 Před rokem +1

      @@glennrishton5679 well I think this was focused on a one-on-one, personal level rather than official policy.

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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    • @iain3482
      @iain3482 Před rokem

      @@glennrishton5679 apart from spending 2 weeks evacuating 82,000 people from Kabul airport, facing suicide attacks against US troops, you mean.

    • @glennrishton5679
      @glennrishton5679 Před rokem

      @@iain3482 The number brought out is only relevant to those of the number brought out. It is those left behind who suffer the consequences. Then let's talk about the military equipment left behind for the enjoyment of those who wish to do us harm. Maybe two more weeks should have been spent evacuating everyone, ya think?

  • @HarryWHill-GA
    @HarryWHill-GA Před rokem +17

    One afternoon I had the watch in CIC while we had the helo up doing ASW ops. The pilot requested we set flight quarters early. When I asked why he replied he had a "bladder over pressure light". The helo comms were piped onto the bridge and the Officer of the Deck only heard "over pressure light" and set emergency flight quarters before I could speak to him. The Supply Officer was the Landing Signals Officer and happened to be in ship's refrigerated stores. He had to race up 4 decks. He was not happy with the OOD when he found out why.

  • @Smokie1523
    @Smokie1523 Před rokem

    Your videos are always so fascinating and well done. Thanks for puttin the effort in brother!

  • @notpewdiepie6458
    @notpewdiepie6458 Před rokem +1

    wow i cant believe how moved i am by seeing them dump hueys for humans, and the cesna landing on a carrier was literally the cherry on top

  • @Turvok
    @Turvok Před rokem +8

    I was aware Canadians used the bear trap and invented it. But this is the first time I've actually fully seen one. It's actually a bit more complex than I thought

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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    • @marvsmoir701
      @marvsmoir701 Před rokem +1

      The complexity stuff is below decks with the hydraulic servo winch system which has to maintain a constant cable tension as helo and ship move around.

  • @danmaster5565
    @danmaster5565 Před rokem +5

    The captain is like I DON,T CARE HOW MUCH THAT CHOPPER COST I WANT THAT PLANE TO LAND PRONTO

  • @ARWest-bp4yb
    @ARWest-bp4yb Před rokem +2

    I served on the USS Cushing (DD-985) in the 80s and we had the bear claw system installed. I worked in engineering so I never got to actually see it in operation, so thanks for posting this! 👍👍

    • @Rmmmmmmmmmmk
      @Rmmmmmmmmmmk Před rokem +1

      The bear claw is a Canadian invention too! Pretty slick piece of kit

    • @marvsmoir701
      @marvsmoir701 Před rokem

      @@Rmmmmmmmmmmk But the USN enhanced and modernized it.

  • @chrisscott6254
    @chrisscott6254 Před rokem

    1:34 you have no idea how happy I am to hear you mention us.

  • @Lelentos
    @Lelentos Před rokem +5

    Never knew about that bit at the end, will have to do more research into the end of the vietnam war.

  • @andreinarangel6227
    @andreinarangel6227 Před rokem +5

    We had no bear-trap/harpoon in my frigate's deck. Our helo (SH2) just had good crews that knew how to operate in heavy weather in the North Atlantic.

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      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @onyx.95
    @onyx.95 Před rokem +1

    the casual humor with a pause after it is so good like s-hol

    • @onyx.95
      @onyx.95 Před rokem

      @WhatsApp①②④⓪④⑥⑥⑧①⑦⑧ nobody believes this shit

  • @SuperChunk1775
    @SuperChunk1775 Před rokem +2

    Great video, loved the historical references

  • @James-cx5cb
    @James-cx5cb Před rokem +6

    Amazing skill and bravery, hats off to these brave men and women who never know when or how things will go from one day to the next , but they are always ready and normally trained , if not trained they improvise !. Very skilled valuable people, much respect and untold amounts of credit, I could not imagine being on a vessel during some of these scenes let alone trying to land a helio on one !. Impressive stuff!. Even with the newer technology still very impressive !.

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  • @philip5798
    @philip5798 Před rokem +5

    This channel never ceases to amaze me. Amazing work 👏

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @Max-jq3kj
    @Max-jq3kj Před rokem +1

    Major buong was an amazing man
    Im sure glad the captain helped pull something good out of that heartbreaking mess.

  • @PauIdenino
    @PauIdenino Před rokem

    Whoever came up with the S-HOL is a legend

  • @STiX_87
    @STiX_87 Před rokem +4

    I had a lot of questions, since I was a kid, seeing people dropping the helos off from the carrier. I was thinking that it was a movement of embarrassment, through the end of war. But now, all my questions took a very strong answer.

    • @farrukhahmad555
      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @Progamer-jk6lm
    @Progamer-jk6lm Před rokem +5

    I love your videos

  • @TwinTonyz
    @TwinTonyz Před rokem +1

    Solid copy on the clean S-HOL. We'll be arriving shortly.

  • @0mn0mable
    @0mn0mable Před rokem +1

    ships, storms, helicopters and drama (landing). CZcams if you're paying attention, that's how you hook me every time. What a vid, good job!

  • @gregweatherup9596
    @gregweatherup9596 Před rokem +22

    I’m confused by that last story. Why didn’t they just have the helicopters take-off and hover nearby for a moment then re-land after the Cessna did? If the note said he had an hour then that would seem to me to be more than enough time to get pilots (and even a splash of fuel if needed) into those birds for just a few minutes of flight.

    • @yoface938
      @yoface938 Před rokem +4

      I’d like to find out as well. There had to be a good reason like lack of pilots or fuel or maintenance issues as no one would willingly throw away their assets like that unless they seemed invaluable to human life.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před rokem +54

      That’s a very good question, and I don’t think I have the answer for sure. But I did come across this: “For 30 hours, American and South Vietnamese military helicopters converged nonstop on the Midway, many low on fuel and without radio communications with the ship.”
      Three points: First, I believe the UH-1 Hueys were the Vietnamese helicopters, not American, and were already low on fuel.
      Second, imagine, this was a very very long day (2 days actually). 30 hours of helicopters dropping off people. The crew must have all been exhausted and didn’t want to take any more risks by flying the helicopters.
      Third, when it comes to the time remaining, it is possible that from the moment they decided what to do, they didn’t have 1 hour left. Maybe they only had 30 minutes left. So pushing the helicopters off may have been the only feasible option.
      If you google Operation Frequent Wind, you can find more details online.

    • @thelumpylobster
      @thelumpylobster Před rokem +4

      @@NotWhatYouThink AKA; 'not what you think!' ;)

    • @ohishwaddup
      @ohishwaddup Před rokem +8

      As a layman I imagine it would be a logistical nightmare trying to get preflight checks done and crew suited up in all that chaos. You can replace the helis but replacing crew is very difficult if something goes wrong. Would you rather spend 1000s of hours training new crew that will lack the real world experience these guys already have or would you rather just buy new heli's with your near infinite military budget.

    • @nickmaclachlan5178
      @nickmaclachlan5178 Před rokem +12

      The helicopters didn't belong to the ship, they were all from shore bases and mostly belonged to the South Vietnamese Army. There was nowhere below decks to store them as the carrier already had a full complement of it's own aircraft. They would have been ditched even if the Cessna hadn't turned up, in order for the Carrier to maintain operational readiness.

  • @Hokkagi
    @Hokkagi Před rokem +4

    Vídeo excelente! O piloto vietnamita tem cunhão viu!? Pousar um Cesna num área tão pequena...
    Parabéns pela coragem 👏🏻

  • @randomlyentertaining8287

    1:09-1:18
    I love how that Phalanx is constantly staring right at that Eurocopter like "Buddy, make one wrong move and I'll saw you in half." XD

  • @tropicalvikingcreations

    Thank you very much for sharing and explaining this, I had wondered this as a child but forgot to find out.
    Will also definitely be using these as inspiration for a fictional vehicle design.

  • @freelife-productions5745

    my dad was a navy lynx pilot for the dutch royal navy. they used a net and a hook. it was way more easy.

  • @Mr.Manta5988
    @Mr.Manta5988 Před rokem +6

    I was in Kiel this week and there I saw one of the modern german subs cruising down the firth. That got me interested to learn more about these subs. Could you make s video covering them? The whole thing in general or anything special in more detail?

    • @davidhoortash7425
      @davidhoortash7425 Před rokem +3

      There's a very informative and well produced CZcams series from a channel called "SmarterEveryDay" that has an 8 series show on nuclear submarines. From how they operate, generate oxygen, break the ice, produce fresh water etc. I can recommend it (besides this channel of course)

    • @thoughtfox2409
      @thoughtfox2409 Před rokem +2

      @@davidhoortash7425 Germany dosn't operate any nuclear subs. The current german U-Boot-Class 212 A uses a Diesel-generator and a fuel cell to operate.

    • @davidhoortash7425
      @davidhoortash7425 Před rokem

      @@thoughtfox2409 I'm not sure William was only interested in the German subs? Perhaps I was wrong. But I don't see what would set them specifically apart from general submarine mechanics (besides size/type of fuel).

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 Před rokem

      @@thoughtfox2409 While true, those videos go into the topic of submarining and the operations of the boats. Which should be general enough regardless of nuclear or diesel propulsion.

  • @LiamDennehy
    @LiamDennehy Před rokem

    Such a good video, very informative and then surprisingly emotional :)

  • @rickybousquet6544
    @rickybousquet6544 Před rokem

    I’m just learning about helicopter equipment and how amazing these inventions and techniques and technology have changed the use of these wonderful vehicles for missions in rescue and operational duty

  • @nickmaclachlan5178
    @nickmaclachlan5178 Před rokem +4

    You didn't mention that the Lynx Aircraft, in addition to the Harpoon deck lock system, also has the ability to achieve negative pitch collective control, meaning that the rotors are able to push the Aircraft down on to the deck in certain rough weather situations.
    The ability to swivel the aircraft on the spot is very useful for both take offs and landings where the ship can't change course to suit wind across deck conditions, and when weapons are loaded and you don't want to point them straight at the hanger. Unfortunately it means the main wheels have to be manually moved to the fore and aft position before the aircraft can be moved on deck as only the nosewheel has the ability to move under hydraulic power. It's called Toeing-in or Toeing-out the wheels and it is done by using a long metal pole (known as a Toeing-out bar, not to be confused with a Towing bar, lol) with a right angle fitting at the end which slides in to the wheel's axle. There is a spring loaded pin that has to be pulled down in order for the wheels to move and it seats when the wheel is at the correct angle.
    The Aircraft also have manual and automatically controlled wheel locks on all four wheels. The pilot can release them in order to spin. The deck crew can also work them at the wheels when ranging the Aircraft on deck.
    I worked maintenance and flight deck operations on the Lynx Mk3, Mk3S and Mk8 variants in the Royal Navy during the 90's.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před rokem +5

      thanks for detailed response, you obviously know more than we have researched. Some interesting tidbits you shared!

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    • @nickmaclachlan5178
      @nickmaclachlan5178 Před rokem

      @@farrukhahmad555 That's jolly nice for you...... why don't you run along and let the grown ups talk?

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      @farrukhahmad555 Před rokem

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  • @williamreynolds6132
    @williamreynolds6132 Před rokem +3

    I’m surprised they couldn’t just have pilots take-off from the carrier, land the Cessna, then land the helicopters again. Props to the captain/crew for helping him any way that they could though.

    • @orabaki
      @orabaki Před rokem

      We're speaking from hindsight. It was a real mess since helicopters were landing one after another and that 5 more UH-1 helicopters actually landed on deck while the Cessna was still circling the carrier. Freeing up the cluttered deck would have been vital anyways had there been more South Vietnamese planes trying to land.

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    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT Před rokem

      It's an American propaganda story. None of it actually happened

  • @matthewhull5876
    @matthewhull5876 Před rokem +1

    Wow… I learned several things from this video. Thank you.

  • @Deuronius
    @Deuronius Před rokem +1

    Surprisingly wholesome!. awesome vid

  • @alexusmc2384
    @alexusmc2384 Před rokem +8

    My mom said that its very hard to land it in rough seas very hard and she almost died that day

    • @tanmaysingh267
      @tanmaysingh267 Před rokem +1

      Was she the wife of Cessna pilot

    • @alexusmc2384
      @alexusmc2384 Před rokem

      @@tanmaysingh267 I don't really know she just told me about this story when I was 8

    • @alexusmc2384
      @alexusmc2384 Před rokem +1

      @WhatsApp①②④⓪④⑥⑥⑧①⑦⑧ And you account is 1week old and you have 70+ comments that are all the same
      And so spammer/bot 😐

  • @TheLooking4sunset
    @TheLooking4sunset Před rokem +11

    Omg a lovely story, maybe that separates American navy from others, doing something because it is the right thing to do. But I would love to think all serious navies would do the same

    • @tanmaysingh267
      @tanmaysingh267 Před rokem

      Why not let the Cessna land on water and send a rescue mission

    • @tanmaysingh267
      @tanmaysingh267 Před rokem

      Wouldn't it would have saved millions in damage

    • @177SCmaro
      @177SCmaro Před rokem +4

      Machines can be replaced, people cannot be.

    • @tanmaysingh267
      @tanmaysingh267 Před rokem +1

      @@177SCmaro machines cost, people are free (especially immigrants)

    • @177SCmaro
      @177SCmaro Před rokem

      @@tanmaysingh267
      Machines cost, people produce. Aside from the cost of a loss of life, the other cost is a loss of production - you would be losing everything those people would have produced if they die.

  • @mrs6968
    @mrs6968 Před rokem

    Love this channel always learning something new

  • @kojo7325
    @kojo7325 Před rokem +1

    Probably the best channel on CZcams.

  • @Emma__Smith
    @Emma__Smith Před rokem +3

    You fucking Canadians are awesome! Much love from the US

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 Před rokem +3

    The cable trap seems like an unsuccessful attempt to hoist the ship and hold it for ransom.

    • @Eyes0penNoFear
      @Eyes0penNoFear Před rokem

      We just can't do it captain, we don't have the power!

  • @daniel_poore
    @daniel_poore Před rokem +2

    holy shit thanks for including that bit at the end.... i had never heard that story about midway. Thats insane!

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 Před rokem

    The thumbnail image explains why Navy Aviators are considered to be the best!
    To say the odds are stacked against Naval Aircrew would be an understatement...

  • @pirojfmifhghek566
    @pirojfmifhghek566 Před rokem +8

    Every time I see one of your videos I'm like "meh, I'm not really all that big into military exploits and war" and then halfway through I'm always like "damn, this is actually really cool." The engineering and problem solving that goes into these things is fascinating stuff. I've never regretted watching any of your videos. It's all great, keep it up.
    Of course once I go back to the main page, youtube's algorithm is like "HEY, I HEARD YOU LIKE GUNS N SHIT" and I have to spend the next month being inundated with 'suggested videos" featuring annoying tacticool gear advertisements, war exploits, and angry, belligerent southerners shooting ballistic gel models of Hillary Clinton while they give ridiculous, Gallagher-style speeches about self defense and constitutional rights.

  • @VictoryAviation
    @VictoryAviation Před rokem +3

    I’m a brand new heli pilot. Bear trap or not, landing on a pitching and rolling surface with all the turbulence and all kinds of crazy aerodynamics occurring, will never be an easy task. If you have any doubt, go take a helicopter lesson on a completely calm day and see what it feels like to hover in perfect conditions 😉

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před rokem +2

      Hey thanks for your comment. I don’t doubt for a second that it requires skill to do it. All we meant by saying “the landing is a bit easier than you might think” on a moving platform, was to say such a thing as bear trap exists that helps.

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation Před rokem

      @@NotWhatYouThink I was just giving you all a hard time lol. I didn’t feel like there was any disrespect! I actually had no clue about this device. I’m not in the Navy and don’t have any experience with water based aviation. I thought it was a really good episode!!

  • @WTH1812
    @WTH1812 Před rokem +1

    Nothing more fun than helicopter ops on a cargo ship.

  • @EdgyShooter
    @EdgyShooter Před rokem +1

    "Steve what the hell, you broke the damn landing gear?!?"
    "Garry, I said I would land it, have we or have we not landed?"

  • @umfilmmaker8253
    @umfilmmaker8253 Před rokem

    Fascinating history. Thank you!

  • @masaharumorimoto4761
    @masaharumorimoto4761 Před rokem

    We did emergency egress training in Sea Cadets, some of the most fun I've ever had!!! We also did Damage Control that weekend, omg what a hoot the flood tanks are!!

  • @hamentaschen
    @hamentaschen Před rokem +1

    Awesome. Just awesome. Thank you!!

  • @justandy333
    @justandy333 Před rokem

    I've always wondered about this! Landing a helicopter in rough seas. Great video and a fantastic device to solve this problem! Some very clever people out there comig up with such innovations.