How to get/make a Rotella?! - The famous renaissance Round-Shield
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- Today I going to show you how to get a suitable Rotella for you practice of Historical Martial Arts. I will show you some commercial options for steel or synthetic round shields, some up- and recycling solutions and in the end I will demonstrate how to make one by yourself.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:34 Handmade steel rotella
02:37 Mass produced steel rotella
03:31 Purple Heart Armory rotella (probably also a modified sledge)
03:56 Riot-Rotella
05:47 DIY sledge rotella (aka the winter soldier)
06:10 DIY satellite dish rotella (aka scrapyard rotella)
06:49 DIY wooden rotella (aka IKEA Shield)
07:36 Ikea bamboo rotella
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Material list for IKEA Rotella:
60 cm bamboo dish
wood glue
some canvas or linen
old belt
yoga mat or foam
paint
4 bolts and nuts
Links:
Stell shields: Marshal Historical steel round shield - www.outfit4events.com/eur/pro... & Windlass Marto steel round shield - www.outfit4events.com/eur/pro...
Synthetic Shield: www.woodenswords.com/Syntheti...
DIY IKEA Shield: "Hultet - 60cm" www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/hultet-d...
Riot shields: Search for "riot shield" on ebay or aliexpress
Edging for Riotella www.amazon.com/QBUC-Guards-Ru...
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Here are different variations of rotella or rotella-simulators we use in our regular Training, from technical applications up to high level sparring. What kind of shields do you use and what are other options to get a good rotella? Let us know =)
Very nice! I actually also recently build a Rotella, but I bent 2 rows of wooden planks over a mold and glued them together to stay in form.
Getting that slight sphere is super tricky!
So handsome warrior... Un guapísimo rodelero!
I used the polycarbonate, coated it with a 10mm Eva foam, it increased the size to around 60cm diameter, but it became sturdy enough to hold full amplitude halberd strikes. Also makes it safer to strike with the rim if that's the way you roll.
Great video! I didn't expect such in depth diy goodness. By the way, I absolutely love the pride rotella, I need one!
Die Idee mit dem Holzteller finde ich Klasse. Habe mir beim Depot einen etwas kleineren geschossen und da wird prompt ein Buckler draus gemacht.👍🏻
I think this will solve one of our problems. Thanks!
Perfect 😊, this was the intention of this video 😁
Great overview! Maybe more of my students will follow the advanced now with a cheaper Rotella. Thanks for the video 👍
You're welcome! We just completed our loaner set on rotellas. This way we were able to hold the first workshops for sword&rotella this weekend =)
Sehr cool. 👍 Ich hab richtig Lust bekommen, selber eine zu machen.
Wir freuen uns über nach macher 😊 dafür ist das Video da!
This was nice thanks
you are welcome =)
Thanks a lot for this vid!! Unfortunately all i can find is 45 cm bamboo dish (wich is awesome idea). Maybe i can give a try with this riot shield.
Great ideas, my friends!
Truly, it is this sort of scrappy ingenuity that is being systematically washed out of the human race by mass consumerism. I am a weapon maker myself, and never with the ideal materials. I’ll be following you and learning as much as I can. Specifically, I am looking to learn more about the spear and shield combo, so I’ve added a couple of your videos to my playlists. Keep up the great work, and look me up on Instagram if you are there!
Finding good training gear is always a place worth exploring 😊
Now would be great to have a tutorial about How to decorate your riot shield
Thank you. Very useful. I have a Marshall Historic rotella, but have found it rather heavy. Interesting to know that the Windlass version is lighter, and could use re-strapping. Some of the other options are a great idea. Definitely getting a riot shield for drills. Thanks again for this... Loved the rainbow...
Based on extant examples & Giacomo di Grassi's description, historical rotellas were pretty heavy.
Looking at historical examples (at least the measured once at the royal armories and the met museum) you can find Rotella between 2 to 6kg, with a lot weighting around 2-3 or 3-4kg. Thus the marshall historic is probably in the range of an average shield while the windlass is one of the lighter once. The heavier once also tend to be highly decorated, maybe its the beautiful but less used once we see in the museums nowadays, and the boring every day rotella rusts unmeasured in the archives :D
Thank you this very informative video :-)! I checked for the ikea bowls but I couldn't find one large enough. As such I will probably go for the riot shield you have advice how to add a rim to the polycarbonate shields?
These car door protective edging are perfect. They have a metal core and rubber coating. I linked some on the description.
nice
Very cool :) I want to pick up rotella fencing soon
Have you seen the Cold Steel Targe? How could that be adapted into a rotella?
We don't have experience with the Cold Steel Targe. I think repurposing it as Rotella depends if it is possible to exchange the center grip with two straps. Also the middle grip would have to be completely removed. But Rotella fencing is lots of fun ❤️
There is "targa" fencing in Marozzo, as well as rotella :) The cold steel targe would probably make a far better targe than rotalla, i suggest.
What do you use for edging on the polycarbonate shields?
It is protective "car door edging". A metal clamp engulfed in rubber. They come in different variations, you will need the once for a 3-6mm edge. I will add a link in the description.
How did you make the "tassel" around the spear's head at 4:42 ? It looks great!
It's self-made and we plan to make a short video on how to make it =) There are some more pictures on Stephans Instagram (CamarellArts) :)
@@SchildwachePotsdam cheers! Can't wait
How did you paint your polycarbonate shield? I know that in the video you mentioned being able to paint the backside, but is the black pad, forearm strap, and handle easily removable?
Yes, you can unscrew the handle and the strap ( i even recoment getting rid of the solid handle) and remove the foampad (it might be glued). take care that its a "strong solvent" free paint, i would recomend water based acrylic colors. Best, Stephan =)
Hi Potsdam fencers,
You mentioned other european blacksmiths making quality rotellas ; could you please specify ? Cheers
Mostly they offer them not directly but through reenactment shops. for example Marshal Historical which sells their armor at places like outfit4events or other larp shops. But beside them two places would be Fabri Amorum www.fabri-armorum.com/en/c/shields/ or for more fancy shields Armory Marek www.armorymarek.com/shields, both located in czech. I hope this helps you! Best from Potsdam =) Stephan
It's been roughly a year. Would you say the riot rotella has held up well even after that time. Asking with the intention of purchasing one myself.
Yes, they are all still going strong! It's a good option for cheap loner gear or as an entry point 😊
I am a little confused about the link for the Ikea hulet, upon clicking the link it is 30cm in size, but your video states you can get ones in 60cm and I am also having trouble finding that size. I am making sure if I perhaps misunderstood your explanation, or if there is an update on that particular item that the 60cm size has gone out and is replaced with 30cm. It's 2023 and this video was published two years ago so I am not sure.
allready at the time the 60cm once are sadly out of production. you might find them for (very) cheap on Craigslist/Kleinanzeigen/or what ever used marked site you prefere.
Do people not go sledding in Europe?
They do and that option is mentioned in the video as well :)
We have diffent sledges here, i guess the more traditional wooden sledges are more comon. These dish-sledges are only avalible in more soft and flexible synthetic form, less ideal for a rotella. Maybe we could do sledging with the Riotella or the metal Rotella. Maybe we will test this next winter.
What's the evidence that over 2.5kg is "very heavy" for a rotella? Many extant examples of Renaissance steel shields are more than that, such as a Sir John Smythe's shield at the Met Museum: 55.6cm diameter & 3.6kg. That weight is very common in collections. Edward Cecil wrote that the Dutch targets in use in the early 17th century weighed 6lbs (2.73kg). Renaissance military shields need to be rather thick to be sturdy enough to stop pike thrusts, crossbow bolts, & the like. I don't know that we have any clear surviving examples of specifically civilian fencing rotellas, if such a thing existed, but Giacomo di Grassi noted that the rotella is heavy, mocking those who brace it on the thigh. I have one of those riot shields & do practice with it, but it's significantly lighter than almost all historical shields of that size, so it doesn't simulate much. Sparring with a 1.4kg rotella will differ from sparring with one of a more plausible weigh. I'm not very strong at all, but I feel no need to rest a 1.4kg shield on my thigh. They're a different animal than what di Grassi wrote about.
You are right, historically the 2.5kg are on the lower spectrum of weights you find on rotella and rotella-like shields. From what I found there are many shields also exuding the 4-5kg. But they are mostly also very highly decorated and more works of art then suitably for fighting (maybe). And in a military context they are maybe heavier as you say, to stop pikes etc.
The 'very' heavy statemend comes from a modern point of view, we are not really used to use this kind of load on our off-arm, but if you train a while, the increase of weight is not an big issue. However it is easier to start with a lower load to learn the technique and movements and then starting to increase the weight to aim for the average or heavier historical weights.
If you look at marozzo, there are techniques which require the enemys spear for instance to get stuck in your rotella. If it's a metal rotella, than it has to be thin enough to be punctured by the Spear so it can get stuck. Thus it can not be to thick/heavy.
This for a beginner, directly starting with anything over 2.5kg may be even a health hazard. Once you build up the corresponding muscle for the movement you can and maybe should go up. The Riotella is here a really beginnerfriendly option, additionally during sparring: it's much nicer to get punched by a 1.5kg synthetic shield in the mask, than a 3.6kg metal one.
It isn't wrong to use a non-domed/flat circular shield either.
This is true. Nevertheless a domed shield allows for more arm protection and also a shift in the center of mass, thus the dynamics might change. For a light shield this can be a neglectable. It's always okay to train with what you have on hand 😊
@@SchildwachePotsdam Flat ones were also a thing historically is what I meant. Seen some depicted in paintngs from late 1400s and early 1500s
@@ghostlygardener5644 true, while the depictions in the fighting manuals are curved there are plenty of miniatures, depictions etc in other places with flat round shields as well. Heck, even a 'knightly heater shield' would fit the same techniques mostly :)
I love the rainbow shield! As a queer person, it makes me feel like I could train HEMA safely, and be welcomed to learn 💖
❤️
You are ❤️🏳️🌈 and if you are ever near us, you are welcome to visit and join our training ⚔️
@@SchildwachePotsdam Thank you!! 💖
Another good option for making a Rotella shield is a metal rubbish bin lid.
Combined with a shield boss it's very sturdy.. prepare yourselves for civil war is coming soon 🇬🇧⚔️
I have seen a few of these in rainbow. Is this a medieval design or are all the cool gay folks sword fighting?
Cool gay folks sword fighting, I’d say 1/4 elite fencers I’ve seen/met are gay.
There are so many HEMA techniques I want to learn but I'm just pretty much a beginner 🥲
A good place to start is with the one-handed sword. the nice thing about the Bolognese system is that it is comparable easy than to extend the material to other combinations and weapons, for instance also the sword and rotella (at some point =) ) Maybe our Playlist on how to learn bolognese swordsmanship may be of help ;-) czcams.com/video/obQzXI69dVw/video.html