No Boxing or Muay Thai. Kids getting punched in the head is not smart. They’re still growing! And getting hit in the head often could have irreversible damage. For a fight! Wrestling fits better because of the go getter, hard work competition aspect that is more similar to the anxiousness of a scrap. If you want a softer version Jiu-Jitsu is fine. The thing is some of the best fighters in the world started out with Tae Kwon Do. Bas Rutten, Jon Jones, Israel Adesanya, Anderson Silva, Edson Barbosa, Benson Henderson, Valentina Shevchenko, Rose Namajunas, Yair Rodrigez, and Anthony Pettis. Many of these fighters still drill Tae Kwon Do kicks for their fight preparation today. BJJ doesn’t prepare you for multiple opponents. And rolling on the floor outside is not the smartest thing to do. Boxing and Muay Thai are superior in a street fight! But again getting punched in the head is not the best for kids. So BJJ would be more ideal. The reason parents put kids in Tae Kwon Do is because they like the discipline, respect factor that traditional martial arts brings. BJJ tends to be more informal and many older students smoke weed. That’s the reason why parents put kids in Tae Kwon Do because it’s more traditional, wholesome, strict, vanilla if you will, yes sir no sir and that’s the type of discipline parents like because they want their kids to respect them and want their kids to do well and not be arrogant at the same time. And your spiel is actually proving them right. Because your speech is precisely why parents don’t want to send their kids to BJJ. Parents don’t want their kids to be combative and argumentative or boastful or proud. Pride in hard work, yes! But not proud as in I’m better than you. If you wanted to get more parents to join their kids to BJJ. This is definitely the incorrect approach 😂
@@tenshimohagon7790 it’s great for kids! In Swimming they sing 5 little monkeys jumping on the bed to convince them to jump. It’s that type of sing along involvement that makes it fun for kids to jump in the pool when otherwise kids would feel hesitant and scared.
I did tekwondo when i was a kid. More tan 11 years from that. I just asked someone to hit me the hardest he can and i should only use a tkd block. I did it ez. It was a hard and fast punch but i just still got it and u ar just telling bullshit
*This video is bad advice.* TKD is an excellent choice for kids. Combat effectiveness is not a top priority with children. General fitness and dexterity is. Hip & shoulder mobility in general must be trained early for maximum effect (between 4 - 10). TKD or gymnastics is an excellent basis upon which to build for any sport, martial art or otherwise. At our Muay Thai gym we start all the kids off in TKD. We move them to MT at the age of 12.
So just put all tkd coaches at a disadvantage to get students? I love bjj it's my current fixation but I've never seen a tkd teacher make videos on why you shouldn't put kids in bjj
@@Taekwon-Brando I think its more about keeping kids from getting their asses kicked. McDojo martial arts give a false sense of security, especially to people that don't know what real violence is about.
@@Taekwon-Brandoim sorry but they are selling an inferior product, that's like saying let's not put horse sellers on a disadvantage because of car. And let's be even more real, many more taekwondo schools are borderline mcdojos in comparison to other arts.
As a former Taekwondo instructor...I fully agree. I look at Taekwondo as a can of NOS and the four martial arts he mentioned as a car. If you put them together you have a much better car...but if you just have a can of NOS... you ain't going anywhere. You need the car.
So true.. I’d say it’s one of those styles that you master after you’ve become a master lol.. not that I’d know anything about being a master.. but imo when you’ve mastered the art of fighting to a certain skill level adding fancy kicks to your arsenal will only help than hurt your chances because by then you’re experienced enough to know when and in what situations to use such moves as well as how to incorporate them with other moves.. not to mention the level of skill in which those moves will be executed.. sometimes it’s more about the skill level of the martial artists rather than the style itself.
@@GameFuMaster not true. Most street fights are on level ground. The terrain wouldn't be a factor. You are right that kicking isn't a terribly good idea though because you don't want to be caught on one leg and off balance.
Don’t be delusional. 3 year old is way too young. Start them with grappling and let them develop there. Don’t want your lil ones getting hit in the head too early.
I did TKD for 16 years. My Grandmaster said “A good purple belt can defend himself in a fight. A good red belt can win a fight. A good black belt will stay out of a fight.”
I guess with someone who doesn’t know how to fight me personally I do kickboxing and sparred I believe a red belt his movement was good but his hands were horrible caught him so many times with the jab and hook. It’s a good tool when you incorporate it in which I’m currently doing
What about the occasions that you can’t walk away from a fight. I’m an old man now but a former boxer. Sadly I was put in a spot where I had to defend my wife and kids. There was NO WALKING AWAY. Unless I just wanted to watch my family get abused. My training allowed me to hold off the attackers while my wife and kids made it to our vehicle. So if you live in a bubble maybe the GM is correct????
TKD focuses hard on harder-to-land kicks, like when do you ever see a back kick landing in a pro fight.. It also has a big focus on Kata and the visual art part of martial arts. And no matter what argument i hear, its a waste of time. I even had to learn techniques like an axe kick 2 different ways, one for kata and plank breaking, and one for combat... why not just learn combat?
My dad put me in it to defend myself and I told him I still couldn’t defend myself cause I didn’t know how to block or dodge punches or how to punch, and he jus ignored me so I taught myself to really fight
Then get them in bjj classes, not taekwondo. Also I’m pretty sure any martial arts gym with kids classes is going to teach self-discipline, respect and honor. Also at least two of those characteristics most people learn implicitly by just practicing martial arts, without it being taught
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Parents don’t put their kids in Taekwondo because they want their kids fighting MMA or regularly getting in street fights, man. They do it because their kid thinks it neat and it’s a fairly inexpensive babysitter for an hour
Even then I'd say it's needed to send the message that bullying this kid ain't worth it (like even if you lose, getting a good punch in will prevent many future fights)
Muay Thai, BJJ, and Wrestling. Yes there are many highly effective martial arts but this trio is highly effective. A person competent in all three of these is a seriously dangerous individual.
My first martial art was tkd but my instructor also prepared us for real world confrontation by teaching us a mix of boxing, the main focus was still the kicks and flexibility but he knew hybridization is the best method.
Personally I did taekwondo, earned my black belt, then went to boxing. I was better at using my hips than everyone else and as a result I was well ahead of everyone else in the gym in a matter of 6 months. Maybe I just have talent though.
@@jorts9426 You definitely have a natural talent but also yes somebody who has practicioned any martial art at such a level will have a significant advantage. If in just 6 months you were above everyone else, maybe the level wasn't that high over there, but I am sure you were really good.
@@jorts9426 That said, I saw a very experienced taekwondo practicioner throw horrible, and I mean HORRIBLE punches. Who knows, maybe some just aren't meant to punch. Me myself I like kicking and love it but boxing just flows effortlessly for me
Thing is, taekwondo was based off Tang Soo Do. And what's even crazier right? Is the fact that taekwondo does almost the same stuff - worse. But the part that you really need to get is Tang Soo Do doesn't have it's own special little tournament. Because they can win against other styles due to actually doing the motions right. Also because it isn't that popular due to being the predecessor of Taekwondo of all things. Hard to convince people to go for one of Chuck Norris's styles when the child of it looks like it's on social security.
I got put into genuine Taekwando as an outlet for "starting fights" with "the asshole kids". When you already know what you're doing, learning more is always better.
Parents don't put their kids into martial arts to learn fighting. They do it to teach them discipline, and to babysit them for a little bit so they can have a break.
@@Sidewinder528 not enough to run a successful school. Because when their kids learn the real stuff and use it on someone. The parts get sued. For example elbows. An elbow can fillet a person's face open. Teach that to a kid and that kid uses it, the parents get sued. One of my teachers taught a girl an axe kick. The girl went to school and hit somebody with it she broke the other person's collar bone.
@JKL2LKJ ....My Son was in A Good Taekwondo School. They incorporated Hapkido into the training too. As far as your kid using it......if He or she is getting assaulted they have to do what they have to do. My son was also one of the captains of his wrestling team for 3yrs when he was in High School. Are you gonna say kids shouldn't wrestle because they might slam someone in a self defense situation?
@@Sidewinder528 I was a regional champion in TKD. And about your second degree black belt you're supposed to learn hapkido. It gives you a form of grappling and striking. I was not always a good kid. Never bullied anyone but stayed fighting. I also did wrestling because my first art was Japanese jujitsu. I'm all for learning the arts the right way. Because when you learn the arts the water down way, and you need it. You get yourself hurt or worse. But when I learned Wing chun the right way in later years. I was glad I did not know that when I was younger. That stuff was deadly. Because all your vital organs are on the center line. And I was not mature enough at that age to use it. But even when I was younger I taught my arm breaks. One of them broke someone's arm and they got kicked out of school. And the school tried to file a lawsuit against the parent.
As someone who took taekwondo as a kid, this is accurate. It helped me learn discipline and physical awareness, but it didn’t teach me how to properly defend myself in a real world situation.
@@420snooginsBoxing did that for me. At the end it also depends on your size , if you are a 5'5 guy , taekwondo will be better than nothing but the best thing for you will be boxing.
I prefer the traditional martial arts versus sports for childhood character development. There are more wrestling programs for young children, but Judo might be a more comprehensive/effective way of teaching the most basic wrestling, especially to children, but any beginner could be more certain to know basic wrestling through structured judo.
@@soulcapitalist6204 As someone who started in Judo, I can confirm. When I started training MMA and thus wrestling, everyone, coach included, thought I was already a solid wrestler. Hadn't done it a day in my life. All just because of Judo.
@@TheStraightestWhitest we need to stop pretending like Judo is not just a watered down version of wrestling. It is still wrestling. Stop dignifying Judo as a completely different sport or nearly as tough as actual wrestling.
I remember the first time I gave my good friend (wrestler ) a work out I was shocked at how taxing it was. I was a boxer and football player. Grappling really takes a lot of endurance. I figured out right there this was a weakness for my ability to defend myself. So I quit my 3rd sport of Basketball to dedicate that time to working out with high quality wrestlers. It served me well over the years. I totally agree with your message.
that's the reason why we learn to dodge not to block, as a taekwondoin myself reflex is everything. i don't train my neck to be strong like a boxer, i train my neck to be flexible that i can do more that 90° head movement
I will admit as a Taekwondo instructor, some of the things he is saying are true. However, many parents aren't putting their kids in Taekwondo to teach them how to fight, but rather to discipline them. But if you want to go down the fighting route there are still plenty of training options in Taekwondo to improve both sparring and self defense skills. Also one big thing to note with Taekwondo self defense is that we aren't trying to prolong the fight. We train to first, avoid the fight altogether as much as possible. If a fight is unavoidable, ONLY THEN do we begin to use our skills in defense. And with the right training, when a taekwondoist goes in for the attack they should be able to place their attacks in specifically chosen weak points on the body so that with the right timing, accuracy, and power, our opponent can be knocked out of the fight (or even killed in extreme cases) with a single punch. Obviously that type of skill takes a long time to train and you need the right kind of training with the right kind of people to accomplish that level of skill. Once you do, however, your fists become as deadly as bullets. But to reiterate what I said in the beginning, this is usually not what parents sign up for. They just want to get their child to behave and be more disciplined, and the type of training you can get from a true, legitimate Taekwondo master, can easily accomplish just that.
One more thing regarding self defense, I sometimes mix some other martial arts such as muy Thai, jiu jitsu, and judo, into the self defenses I teach to give my students a wider range of options when faced with different attacks. If you are training in Taekwondo as an art form, stick with Taekwondo. If you are training Taekwondo to learn to fight, you can add a few concepts from other arts to give you a broader range of weapons in your arsenal for when that time comes and you must fight for your life or for someone else's life. It all depends on exactly what you are training in Taekwondo.
As a traditional martial arts practitioner from a young age, I did the classic pipeline of karate/TKD, into high school/college wrestling, into MMA/boxing/Muay Thai, I have a kinda hot take on this. I really love that my base was karate/TKD. I believe it’s easier (at least in my experience) to get sharp with your boxing/defense than it is to become a very fluent kicker. I believe kicking is like the grappling of striking, unless you start with it veeeery young, you’re never going to have the kicking literacy that someone who’s base is a TMA. Much like wrestling. At least for a wide variety of kicking techniques.
Same here, Tang Soo Do to wrestling to mma. Idk if I completely agree with the guy in the video bc I won all but 1 fight as a kid with only TSD. Kid I lost to was several years older and was out of my league at the time. Most kids don't have the discipline or head to use whatever they've learned until later in life once it's settle. Do agree that boxing, MT, wrestling etc are great for street fights but thats like high school into adult life.
As a TKD dude I agree with this, although my hot take is ground fighting js more important than kicking Lots of dudes in Muay Thai and some in Karate who can’t throw high kicks for shit, but get by essentially being a boxer who throws low roundhouses and checks the opponent’s kicks
I second this. I went for years until I got my senior first degree black belt. I didn’t want to do it anymore so I transitioned to boxing/kickboxing and honestly without my base of TKD knowledge I wouldn’t have excelled so well in kickboxing and had the drive to try to learn more about boxing as well. Kicking is great and honestly the spin kicks were cool but unpractical. I wanted to learn how to hit harder with my hands while still being able to use my legs defensively and offensively.
A lot of ppl can't differentiate the difference between martial arts and fighting. Martial arts is the practice of fighting and fighting is the practical application of Martial arts.
Tae Kwon Do saved me in my first street fight when I was 11 years old. I threw one punch and won the fight. I got a reputation for knowing martial arts and it ended a multi-year long bullying phase the other kids subjected me to.
my first street fight involved me trying disabling the enemy ability to fight by applying pressure in a nerve. To get there i just needed to block. Bro was humbled quickly
in my area you know who won every taekwondo tournament for the last seven years, a kid who knows how to box and takes advantage of taekwondo's scoring system which awards a lot of points for jump punches for some reason unknown to me, so he pretty much bounces around and jabs with the occasional actual taekwondo move just to counter if an opponent catches him off guard (im not saying jump punching isnt taekwondo as its clearly a legal move but when you look at how he moves this kid is clearly boxing)
As a black belt in TKD, one of the first things we learned was a 1-2, just with a flicking backfist instead of a straight jab. As students progressed they'd add a hook n uppercut next, and then a knee, and then we learn how to mix the kicks in with it. Don't tell people not to put their kids in TKD, tell people to research the TKD schools/their practices
On average tkd people are delusional and not ready for a real combat in school. So if parents want their kids to orotect themselves, ON AVERAGE, best to put them in a mma & boxing gym.
That’s just not tkd then what are you on and again overall a striking sport like boxing and American wrestling is a very strong foundation or muay thai with American wrestling or bjj especially ground game since a majority of fights go to the ground
That’s probably because of bad past experiences from your coach 😂 joe Rogan has been said in a real fight TKD doesn’t work, and he realized that after winning multiple world titles and being an instructor himself, just to go into another art and get his face punched off because he didn’t know how to throw, nor block a punch, traditional TKD doesn’t team punches, OBVIOUSLY! 😂🤦🏽♂️
I started off boxing. Then BJJ then went to a MMA gym. Those 2 arts alone carried me during competition. Stand up and ground game. I fully agree with this guy his point is valid
My Dad showed me how to shoot when I was 9, but I learned how to fight anyway. Guns aren't allowed in a lot of places where kids might have to defend themselves.
There are many situations where someone needs an attitude adjustment but not to be shot. If you don't know the difference, you could wind up spending years of your life confined with men where you won't have a gun and you better know how to fight.
I agree, there's also this philosophy that existed decades till this day that can stop a potential street fight before it starts. I believe its called "the way of the quiet kid"
Don't think this Warhammer guy knows that not getting yourself into a situation where you WILL be injured is not a ladylike maneuver. Still good to know how to fight.
@@MrWARHAMMER68 Doesn't every single fighting gym tell their students to avoid fighting as much as possible? Or as you put it; teach their students to conduct themselves like ladies.. This is also the reason why i think it's beyond stupid advice to chose a sport for you child based on how well "it works in the streets". If your fight training results in you getting into more street fights, something went wrong.
In the military and S. Korea, you learn the real deal because it is life of death, but when TKD is taught to civilians, you learn a watered down version.
Taekwondo can only win a fight against a person who has NO MARTIAL ART SKILLS. Once it's fighting against IT'S EQUAL from other Martial art fighters then it will lose 9 out of 10 times (yes, I'm being generous here)🤪🤣 There is a reason why you will NEVER see any Taekwondo fighters winning any MMA matches!! 🤣🤣🤣 I'll put my money on muay thai fighters over taekwondo fighters all day everyday!!
I know a guy who was a regional champion from a young age. People underestimate the power of one of those kicks in front of your face, and the whoosh sound it makes.
Been doing bjj/Mt for 3 years and I've coached both children's TKD and BJJ so i definetly have an authority to speak on this. The kids ability to fight was obviously better when I was teaching our kids bjj but the kids found more enjoyment and engaged more with TKD. Also the dexterity required for tkd is better for early childhood development I've noticed, most of the kids from the bjj classes I helped coach couldn't do a cartwheel, touch their toes, etc. Absolutely no conditioning, strength training, flexibility, etc. In your typical bjj kids class they usually get straight to drills after like 2 warmups
@tristargymwestcoast I don't think we're talking about the same thing but go off. MMA is literally the pinnacle of martial arts I'm not disagreeing with you whatsoever 🤣 I'm saying kids in my experience have benefit more in day to day life from Taekwondo but okay haha oss
@tristargymwestcoast well i can agree there, tkd is absolutely better than nothing and programs are widely available i do wish youth MMA was more accessible when I was young haha
I took Tanakas Karate- got into a street fight with another kid who did Judo and wrestling. One of us knew how to use our knees and also was taught that fights have absolutely no rules. That kid even tried to explain a rule I broke just before I knocked him out. Almost 15 years later he was still made claiming I broke a rule in that fight because he was raised with these rules in wrestling and with Judo.
@MachinePalm 13 year old kids don't think about that stuff, especially in the 80s, before mma and all these other combat sports. Neither one on of them was trained in any fighting style, except maybe wrestling, but people didn't do much ground and pound back then.
@@nickg1895 grabbed on the leg? Man as someone who practices tkd too, my coach literally said to not hold back at street fights since there is NO rule. grab my leg or not I can grab theirs too
@@thisiswhatilike54still a good exercise or workout and the stance itself is not bad by any means. Literally the same stance that's used a bunch of time by the likes of mcgregor, izzy, and other kickboxers
@thisiswhatilike54 Nobody knows how to raise a kid, trust me you think you can research up everything possible and still left dumbfounded on the choices your kids make.
@@duanegarrett4900brother all it takes is for me to see your goofy TKD stance and know to catch one low or roundhouse kick. All it takes is for me to take the kick to the lat (you can take one or two kicks and stand your ground if you use your lat) check it or move laterally to catch it, and you’re done: Single leg takedown is the obvious next step but I could even just use it to control you enough to get in close range and now you can’t kick at all, now I can use any amount of judo wrestling and Muay Thai sweeps and throws on you, and if I take you to the ground what are you gonna do?
My mom put me in taekwondo when I was young and it was the first thing she wanted to do and because I wanted to be a cool kid. Thankfully, in the middle of training, my coach decided to teach me a lot of boxing basics because I heard that Manny Pacquiao integrated many martial arts such as Taekwondo in his matches before. In the end, this taught me that I only kick when I have the opportunity to and that having experience with your upper body really negates a lot of weaknesses Taekwondo has.
Best advice I ever got from golden gloves champ as a kid about geting into a physical fight? Don't, walk away. If you absolutely must fight, do it on your terms. Preferably at night, without witnesses or cameras using the element of surprise and a tire iron lol 😆
Tkd is not about fighting.... it's a lifestyle that teaches discipline... focus... and most importantly how to avoid confrontation. But if needed... you can still defend yourself.
@@nicholaseaves2591 Is that every school and teacher? It's just there's nothing that stops me mixing my boxing into my Taekwondo instructing, or Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai into my instructor's instructing.
@@nicholaseaves2591 i think traditional tkd is not the best. True. My school was based in tkd but mixed in stuff that was more useful in a fight from other styles. Most fights end up on the ground so we were taught that as well.
Avoid confrontation? Almost all the kids that does all this martial arts including girls in my school were very cocky thinking that they were unbeatable in a fight.
Combat sports teach volumes. I'm not convinced that traditional styles teach anything. All they have given people I've known is an unrealistic expectation of what fighting is like.
Boxing and wrestling definitely teach honor, courage, bravery, and discipline. Also, those martial arts have existed since ancient Egypt. TKD was invented in the 50s, Karate is only older by a few hundred years. If you're going to an old school coach and learning real Karate or TKD, then great, but if it's just watered down forms, kata, point sparring, etc. then it won't even be able to cultivate the same virtues wrestling or Judo does.
@@collaboration3511definitely. A sport like wrestling teaches bravery, discipline, courage, and it builds mental resilience. Unless you're at an old school gym, karate or tkd just wont do that.
Traditional Styles at their traditional core and history are very brutal. The real deal of karate and taekwondo is lethal and most of it is illegal. Today it’s been watered down because shit parents and their soft kids might get hurt ect…
The thing is, these super traditional blocks are most certainly for blocking hands that are swinging weapons. It’s no wonder they don’t work for fist fighting
People dont put their kids in martial arts to learn how to fight in streets, they start martial arts to learn how to respect others and yourself, to create courage and to have some fun while putting their bodies to lose some energy.
@@getasimbe There's a reason why the incentives are so high for schools to give black belts to these little kids. If parents don't think the kid is progressing through the ranks they'll just leave the school. That's why they give belts easily, there aren't many parents like measuring the "effectiveness" of the school by their childs discipline and respect progress.
Assuming you're in a street fight with another TRAINED and DISCIPLINED fighter, which is unlikely, Taekwondo still has several great applications. Its not void of punches and takedowns. There are also other effective blocking techniques. Even more so if who you're fighting is inexperienced. I think learning any martial art is fantastic for children. Taekwondo is great as a beginner. To each their own though.
@@ReverZe83 bro this doesn't happen watch any mma fight I have also learned taekwondo but still boxing is just better you can literally catch the kick of the taekwondo guy and hit him in the face
Bro that stance is shit for defense but is great for speed. And you know what tkd focuses 2nd? Yep, speed. Power is the least concern for people who practice tkd so a powered kick could probably injure 1 person or 2. For kicking I'd recommend pencak silat also. Underrated martial art yet is as good as traditional tkd.
A buddy in high school was a manager/bouncer at a local arcade back in the late 70s. He was 6'2'' 205. No fat at all. Great street fighter with no formal training. 4 guys came in and were starting trouble. The leader of them was known as a black belt in TKD. My buddy threw them out. They wanted him to fight their leader. He met them at a local Burger King after work and sent that black belt away in a ambulance. It wasnt even close just as the guy in this video preaches.
At the age of 7 my son was bullied every day by the same big fat kid. I decided to enrol him in a TKD class. After a year he gained self confidence and respect from others including that bully boy and that continued into his life as a successful man. Best thing I ever done..wrong advice.
I haven't done any martial arts except kickboxing for a very short time... my opinion: If your kid want's to do tae kwon do, let your kid do tae kwon do. It's a sport where your child learns discipline and excerises. You won't go around and tell a soccer player they souldn't do it because they wont know how to punch somebody properly or defend against an aussault. It's sport.
But soccer doesn’t sell itself on self defence. Also this video was meant for parents getting their kids training for self defence not on wether a kid wanted to do taekwondo in the first place. I got put into taekwondo for self defence when I was a kid then done mma later and realised how practically everything I done in taekwondo is inferior to mma training. That’s what he’s saying in the vid taekwondo is only good for kicks everything else goes to mma for self defence.
Taekwondo is supposed to be a martial art for self defense but football isn’t meant for it. All the basics are important in actual fighting which taekwondo lacks some.
@@ParaBeamwrtaekwondo is suposed to be a martial art, period. I suffered bullying at school, and after starting taekwondo with nine, I kicked a lot of as#es. Kicking well is an art in itself and the sooner you start, the better. I later learned boxing, judo, and some other stuffs, but taekwondo saved my abused- kid's life. All these gurus that put the emphasis on the martial instead of the practitioner, are messed up. I'm 42 now and I'm still able to kick as almost no one of my age can imagine to do.
@@avonmaster6628 do they? I started off with Taekwondo and have been doing it for years, at a bunch of different clubs. Those clubs never sold themselves on self defence or told students they were street fighters or something. People have different reasons for doing martial arts and those are valid. If your kid enjoys doing Taekwondo, let them.
I agree that too many new age schools do kids an injustice in this way. They need to get back to tradition no matter how much these parents whine about Lil Billy not having a higher belt yet.
A good school will impress the kids that they won't survive in a real street fight regardless of their black belt, that the real learning only starts after black belt... Personally, I think kids should be restricted from getting the two highest ranks until they reach a certain age... When I started learning karate, each belt colour was divided into 3 levels: you had to take the same test 3 times, but each time, the grading got stricter. You had to wait minimum of 6 months before attempting for a higher grade, even if the examiner thought you were nearly there... Perhaps underage kids should have a different grading system?
His points are valid for ITF as well. Even though ITF allows head punching, ITF fighters cannot punch very well and have no guard either. Look at how ITF fighters just blitz for the head and fail at basic punch defense. It's basically the same as sport karate without the sweeps.
This guy is going to get people killed. Don't you go and start picking a fight with Korean Taekwondo experts. They could kill you with one kick. It's foolishness to think as he does. No martial art style is complete in itself but they are deadly.
Depends a lot also in the type of Taekwondo. Some ITF Taekwondo classes teach you a pretty solid base of punches, and a plethera of self defence techniques, like eye pokes, thrusts, knifehand strikes and even throws, sweeps, knees and elbows. Basically a huge mix of WTF Taekwondo, kickboxing, muay thai, krav maga and judo
The most important thing is to be beyond styles. There is one mountain to climb, the styles are just different starting points to body mastery. Continue to absorb and evolve as a true martial artist should. Start anywhere but aim for the peak!
It's all just a collection of techniques and movement patterns. Get as many styles and techniques into muscle memory as possible and spar to see what works under what scenarios. You will get to a point where you are using your own unique style of fighting
As a TKD practitioner, I highly agree with this statement. Choosing a style really depends on what your goals are. I personally study TKD because I want to become a stunt performer for action films. If your goal is to learn flashy moves and look cool on camera, then styles like TKD, Kung Fu, Capoeira works best. But if you’re looking to compete in MMA or learn how to defend and beat people up then MMA, BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing works best.
I come from a law enforcement and school safety background. Myself and most of my partners were highly experienced martial artists. From a school perspective having wrestling, grappling skills will keep you out of trouble due to no tolerance policies. You'll always get away with physical control (no slamming, joint breaks or chokes).
@@smokeyjoe6059 Well said. I responded to an incident. Roommates drunk and all that, got into a fight. One was a wrestler. He suplexed his roomie. That guy was ended with a two month stay in the hospital.
Why do you disregard the fun stuff. If I'm forced to fight, then I'm ending their ability to fight. No point if they will try it again. Next victim might be as lucky or trained to defend themself. Kinda surprised more people don't have the 'be nice or lose it' mentality.
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No Boxing or Muay Thai. Kids getting punched in the head is not smart. They’re still growing! And getting hit in the head often could have irreversible damage. For a fight! Wrestling fits better because of the go getter, hard work competition aspect that is more similar to the anxiousness of a scrap. If you want a softer version Jiu-Jitsu is fine. The thing is some of the best fighters in the world started out with Tae Kwon Do. Bas Rutten, Jon Jones, Israel Adesanya, Anderson Silva, Edson Barbosa, Benson Henderson, Valentina Shevchenko, Rose Namajunas, Yair Rodrigez, and Anthony Pettis. Many of these fighters still drill Tae Kwon Do kicks for their fight preparation today. BJJ doesn’t prepare you for multiple opponents. And rolling on the floor outside is not the smartest thing to do. Boxing and Muay Thai are superior in a street fight! But again getting punched in the head is not the best for kids. So BJJ would be more ideal. The reason parents put kids in Tae Kwon Do is because they like the discipline, respect factor that traditional martial arts brings. BJJ tends to be more informal and many older students smoke weed. That’s the reason why parents put kids in Tae Kwon Do because it’s more traditional, wholesome, strict, vanilla if you will, yes sir no sir and that’s the type of discipline parents like because they want their kids to respect them and want their kids to do well and not be arrogant at the same time. And your spiel is actually proving them right. Because your speech is precisely why parents don’t want to send their kids to BJJ. Parents don’t want their kids to be combative and argumentative or boastful or proud. Pride in hard work, yes! But not proud as in I’m better than you. If you wanted to get more parents to join their kids to BJJ. This is definitely the incorrect approach 😂
Taekwondo and wrestling is great for a kid, sport wise. Its not to just learn to self defend. Otherwise you’d go to a school that teaches that.
@@tenshimohagon7790 it’s great for kids! In Swimming they sing 5 little monkeys jumping on the bed to convince them to jump. It’s that type of sing along involvement that makes it fun for kids to jump in the pool when otherwise kids would feel hesitant and scared.
I did tekwondo when i was a kid. More tan 11 years from that. I just asked someone to hit me the hardest he can and i should only use a tkd block. I did it ez. It was a hard and fast punch but i just still got it and u ar just telling bullshit
*This video is bad advice.* TKD is an excellent choice for kids.
Combat effectiveness is not a top priority with children. General fitness and dexterity is. Hip & shoulder mobility in general must be trained early for maximum effect (between 4 - 10).
TKD or gymnastics is an excellent basis upon which to build for any sport, martial art or otherwise. At our Muay Thai gym we start all the kids off in TKD. We move them to MT at the age of 12.
This why you start your kids in knife fighting as soon as they can walk.
Head butts, eye gouges, trachea rips, face bites and groin strikes should be a preschool requirement.
@@twistedstrength.😂
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YEAH you have to start them off in gun fighting too at an early age as well
Stabs 2 year old toddler
Real talk. This advice was needed 20 years ago. But it's here now so LISTEN people!
So just put all tkd coaches at a disadvantage to get students? I love bjj it's my current fixation but I've never seen a tkd teacher make videos on why you shouldn't put kids in bjj
@@Taekwon-Brando I think its more about keeping kids from getting their asses kicked. McDojo martial arts give a false sense of security, especially to people that don't know what real violence is about.
@@Taekwon-Brandoyeah exactly this guys video make no sense he’s just saying this cuz of his experience
Tkd is more of a sport than self defense also its more for cardio. And the blocking is for tkd kicks
@@Taekwon-Brandoim sorry but they are selling an inferior product, that's like saying let's not put horse sellers on a disadvantage because of car.
And let's be even more real, many more taekwondo schools are borderline mcdojos in comparison to other arts.
As a former Taekwondo instructor...I fully agree. I look at Taekwondo as a can of NOS and the four martial arts he mentioned as a car. If you put them together you have a much better car...but if you just have a can of NOS... you ain't going anywhere. You need the car.
If I just have a can of NOS I'll be traveling to another dimension.
If u have a can of NOS and ketamine tho… now ur rlly going somewhere…
kicking in a street fight is generally bad anyway, because of the unreliability of terrain.
So true.. I’d say it’s one of those styles that you master after you’ve become a master lol.. not that I’d know anything about being a master.. but imo when you’ve mastered the art of fighting to a certain skill level adding fancy kicks to your arsenal will only help than hurt your chances because by then you’re experienced enough to know when and in what situations to use such moves as well as how to incorporate them with other moves.. not to mention the level of skill in which those moves will be executed.. sometimes it’s more about the skill level of the martial artists rather than the style itself.
@@GameFuMaster not true. Most street fights are on level ground. The terrain wouldn't be a factor. You are right that kicking isn't a terribly good idea though because you don't want to be caught on one leg and off balance.
Enrolled my 3 year old in Mauy Thai thanks to this advice. She's gonna be the one to decide when its nap time from now on.
She's not first because she's 3 years old second because it's a girl and third because you need some talent
Don’t be delusional. 3 year old is way too young. Start them with grappling and let them develop there. Don’t want your lil ones getting hit in the head too early.
@@OCMOOMOMOkarate is good for kids because your punching body only or
Kids mma class they usually do leg kicks and bodyshots
@@OCMOOMOMO they separate classes into age groups shes chilling.
I did TKD for 16 years. My Grandmaster said “A good purple belt can defend himself in a fight. A good red belt can win a fight. A good black belt will stay out of a fight.”
I guess with someone who doesn’t know how to fight me personally I do kickboxing and sparred I believe a red belt his movement was good but his hands were horrible caught him so many times with the jab and hook. It’s a good tool when you incorporate it in which I’m currently doing
Cause he will get reck in fight 😂
What about the occasions that you can’t walk away from a fight. I’m an old man now but a former boxer. Sadly I was put in a spot where I had to defend my wife and kids.
There was NO WALKING AWAY. Unless I just wanted to watch my family get abused.
My training allowed me to hold off the attackers while my wife and kids made it to our vehicle.
So if you live in a bubble maybe the GM is correct????
If we don't listen to grandma we will get the belt 🤣
Bad guys don't always let you walk away and don't care if you don't want to fight
TKD is a good thing to teach someone whos already a good boxer and grappler
Soviet style boxing with taekwondo is peak traditional kickboxing
Why not just kick box
@@jhtsurvival I prefer kickboxing, but TKD has a few cool little tricks that only work with a strong kickboxing base
TKD focuses hard on harder-to-land kicks, like when do you ever see a back kick landing in a pro fight..
It also has a big focus on Kata and the visual art part of martial arts. And no matter what argument i hear, its a waste of time.
I even had to learn techniques like an axe kick 2 different ways, one for kata and plank breaking, and one for combat... why not just learn combat?
@@redmetalpanda9051There's martial ARTS and there's fighting styles. TKD goes a little heavy on the art end of things.
Taekwondo taught me my foundation. How to avoid conflict, discipline, respect.
This man is the first person to finally understand something about Tkd’s effectiveness
Kids get enrolled into Taekwondo NOT for fighting, rather it's for self-discipline, respect and honor.
That's what your parents are for not taekwondo
My dad put me in it to defend myself and I told him I still couldn’t defend myself cause I didn’t know how to block or dodge punches or how to punch, and he jus ignored me so I taught myself to really fight
Then get them in bjj classes, not taekwondo. Also I’m pretty sure any martial arts gym with kids classes is going to teach self-discipline, respect and honor. Also at least two of those characteristics most people learn implicitly by just practicing martial arts, without it being taught
Self-discipline, respect, and honor? Parents are supposed to teach them that. That's the problem 😂 smh
A) that’s the parents job not the instructors and b) discipline exists in all form of mma
Kicks get chick's.
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Indeed
Punches also get chicks
winning the fight also gets chicks
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I’m a black belt in taekwondo and I approve this message
what degree
Ur driving the whole country of Korea crazy😂
Parents don’t put their kids in Taekwondo because they want their kids fighting MMA or regularly getting in street fights, man. They do it because their kid thinks it neat and it’s a fairly inexpensive babysitter for an hour
Inexpensive 💀
Is that what all the parents of the world told you? I talked to then and they said different
😂😂😂😂 why does this make so much sense
Hour babysitting is not long enough 🙃
They obviously don't do it anticipating their kids going around knocking kids out. They do it so their kid isn't the one getting knocked out.
The first thing parents need to teach their kids is how dangerous fighting is and that you should NEVER get into a fight if it’s not 100% necessary.
It should be about being able to defend yourself if needed. Agreed avoiding fighting should be first resort
This is why you do cardio
Run faster and longer
Even then I'd say it's needed to send the message that bullying this kid ain't worth it (like even if you lose, getting a good punch in will prevent many future fights)
@@Prororo and when they get tired what? Pray Jackie Chan saves the kid?! /s
@@MrShadic999That's why you run towards a crowded place and scream for help. If you're in a middle of nowhere, why are you in a middle of nowhere??
Muay Thai, BJJ, and Wrestling. Yes there are many highly effective martial arts but this trio is highly effective. A person competent in all three of these is a seriously dangerous individual.
Even just one of those 3 and you would be dangerous.
My first martial art was tkd but my instructor also prepared us for real world confrontation by teaching us a mix of boxing, the main focus was still the kicks and flexibility but he knew hybridization is the best method.
Last time I saw a purely Taekwondo practitioner his kicks were great but his boxing was HORRENDOUS
Preach
Personally I did taekwondo, earned my black belt, then went to boxing. I was better at using my hips than everyone else and as a result I was well ahead of everyone else in the gym in a matter of 6 months. Maybe I just have talent though.
@@jorts9426 You definitely have a natural talent but also yes somebody who has practicioned any martial art at such a level will have a significant advantage. If in just 6 months you were above everyone else, maybe the level wasn't that high over there, but I am sure you were really good.
@@jorts9426 That said, I saw a very experienced taekwondo practicioner throw horrible, and I mean HORRIBLE punches. Who knows, maybe some just aren't meant to punch. Me myself I like kicking and love it but boxing just flows effortlessly for me
Wait, what was it's uniform was it shaped like black in and white or it looked like karate uniform? 🥋
If I had a dollar for everybody who ever dismissed taekwondo, I could probably buy a dojo
You could
Thing is, taekwondo was based off Tang Soo Do. And what's even crazier right? Is the fact that taekwondo does almost the same stuff - worse. But the part that you really need to get is Tang Soo Do doesn't have it's own special little tournament. Because they can win against other styles due to actually doing the motions right. Also because it isn't that popular due to being the predecessor of Taekwondo of all things. Hard to convince people to go for one of Chuck Norris's styles when the child of it looks like it's on social security.
just dont buy a tkd dojo
@@acanthohemiazalea8243 you got me about to look up Tang Soo Do now. I appreciate you
@@TheBillhs point taken
Muay thai is best for street fights, as a muay thai practitioner , i never lost a street fight
I got put into genuine Taekwando as an outlet for "starting fights" with "the asshole kids".
When you already know what you're doing, learning more is always better.
As someone who learned taekwondo, I got taught more about not getting into a fight than actual fighting
Better to do track and field
That’s actually the first step in personal defense in the streets
what type of taekwondo did you do?
Parents don't put their kids into martial arts to learn fighting. They do it to teach them discipline, and to babysit them for a little bit so they can have a break.
which taekwondo is great for
Umm....some parents actually do
@@Sidewinder528 not enough to run a successful school. Because when their kids learn the real stuff and use it on someone. The parts get sued. For example elbows. An elbow can fillet a person's face open. Teach that to a kid and that kid uses it, the parents get sued. One of my teachers taught a girl an axe kick. The girl went to school and hit somebody with it she broke the other person's collar bone.
@JKL2LKJ ....My Son was in A Good Taekwondo School. They incorporated Hapkido into the training too. As far as your kid using it......if He or she is getting assaulted they have to do what they have to do. My son was also one of the captains of his wrestling team for 3yrs when he was in High School. Are you gonna say kids shouldn't wrestle because they might slam someone in a self defense situation?
@@Sidewinder528 I was a regional champion in TKD. And about your second degree black belt you're supposed to learn hapkido. It gives you a form of grappling and striking. I was not always a good kid. Never bullied anyone but stayed fighting. I also did wrestling because my first art was Japanese jujitsu. I'm all for learning the arts the right way. Because when you learn the arts the water down way, and you need it. You get yourself hurt or worse. But when I learned Wing chun the right way in later years. I was glad I did not know that when I was younger. That stuff was deadly. Because all your vital organs are on the center line. And I was not mature enough at that age to use it. But even when I was younger I taught my arm breaks. One of them broke someone's arm and they got kicked out of school. And the school tried to file a lawsuit against the parent.
I've taken tae kwon doe first and so far it's my most favorite martial art
Ive nvr entered a fighting class and is visualising how i would fight in fights💀
As someone who took taekwondo as a kid, this is accurate. It helped me learn discipline and physical awareness, but it didn’t teach me how to properly defend myself in a real world situation.
Exact opposite for me. It saved my ass many times while getting bullied in school.
@@420snooginsBoxing did that for me. At the end it also depends on your size , if you are a 5'5 guy , taekwondo will be better than nothing but the best thing for you will be boxing.
@@KoldyukiThugs and bullies won't be expecting muay thai, i believe it's more effective and efficient than taekwondo
@@ossasslaye13yearsago14 it is , but it's a lot harder to train and also finding authentic muay Thai coaches would be really tough.
@@420snooginswell boxing saved my ass when I was fighting a bunch of bullies who knew Taekwondo (one was a black belt btw)
Always Start with wrestling or boxing. These are the basics and also most important.
Classic Judo is fantastic for discipline. It's more than just the fight itself. It's spiritual. It's a mindset shift that benefits you for life.
I prefer the traditional martial arts versus sports for childhood character development. There are more wrestling programs for young children, but Judo might be a more comprehensive/effective way of teaching the most basic wrestling, especially to children, but any beginner could be more certain to know basic wrestling through structured judo.
@@soulcapitalist6204 As someone who started in Judo, I can confirm. When I started training MMA and thus wrestling, everyone, coach included, thought I was already a solid wrestler. Hadn't done it a day in my life.
All just because of Judo.
@@TheStraightestWhitest we need to stop pretending like Judo is not just a watered down version of wrestling. It is still wrestling. Stop dignifying Judo as a completely different sport or nearly as tough as actual wrestling.
I remember the first time I gave my good friend (wrestler ) a work out I was shocked at how taxing it was. I was a boxer and football player. Grappling really takes a lot of endurance. I figured out right there this was a weakness for my ability to defend myself. So I quit my 3rd sport of Basketball to dedicate that time to working out with high quality wrestlers.
It served me well over the years. I totally agree with your message.
that's the reason why we learn to dodge not to block, as a taekwondoin myself reflex is everything. i don't train my neck to be strong like a boxer, i train my neck to be flexible that i can do more that 90° head movement
I will admit as a Taekwondo instructor, some of the things he is saying are true. However, many parents aren't putting their kids in Taekwondo to teach them how to fight, but rather to discipline them. But if you want to go down the fighting route there are still plenty of training options in Taekwondo to improve both sparring and self defense skills. Also one big thing to note with Taekwondo self defense is that we aren't trying to prolong the fight. We train to first, avoid the fight altogether as much as possible. If a fight is unavoidable, ONLY THEN do we begin to use our skills in defense. And with the right training, when a taekwondoist goes in for the attack they should be able to place their attacks in specifically chosen weak points on the body so that with the right timing, accuracy, and power, our opponent can be knocked out of the fight (or even killed in extreme cases) with a single punch.
Obviously that type of skill takes a long time to train and you need the right kind of training with the right kind of people to accomplish that level of skill. Once you do, however, your fists become as deadly as bullets. But to reiterate what I said in the beginning, this is usually not what parents sign up for. They just want to get their child to behave and be more disciplined, and the type of training you can get from a true, legitimate Taekwondo master, can easily accomplish just that.
One more thing regarding self defense, I sometimes mix some other martial arts such as muy Thai, jiu jitsu, and judo, into the self defenses I teach to give my students a wider range of options when faced with different attacks. If you are training in Taekwondo as an art form, stick with Taekwondo. If you are training Taekwondo to learn to fight, you can add a few concepts from other arts to give you a broader range of weapons in your arsenal for when that time comes and you must fight for your life or for someone else's life. It all depends on exactly what you are training in Taekwondo.
what type of taekwondo do you teach?
As a traditional martial arts practitioner from a young age, I did the classic pipeline of karate/TKD, into high school/college wrestling, into MMA/boxing/Muay Thai, I have a kinda hot take on this. I really love that my base was karate/TKD. I believe it’s easier (at least in my experience) to get sharp with your boxing/defense than it is to become a very fluent kicker. I believe kicking is like the grappling of striking, unless you start with it veeeery young, you’re never going to have the kicking literacy that someone who’s base is a TMA. Much like wrestling. At least for a wide variety of kicking techniques.
Great insight. What's TMA
@@acapstertraditional martial arts
Same here, Tang Soo Do to wrestling to mma. Idk if I completely agree with the guy in the video bc I won all but 1 fight as a kid with only TSD. Kid I lost to was several years older and was out of my league at the time. Most kids don't have the discipline or head to use whatever they've learned until later in life once it's settle. Do agree that boxing, MT, wrestling etc are great for street fights but thats like high school into adult life.
As a TKD dude I agree with this, although my hot take is ground fighting js more important than kicking
Lots of dudes in Muay Thai and some in Karate who can’t throw high kicks for shit, but get by essentially being a boxer who throws low roundhouses and checks the opponent’s kicks
I second this. I went for years until I got my senior first degree black belt. I didn’t want to do it anymore so I transitioned to boxing/kickboxing and honestly without my base of TKD knowledge I wouldn’t have excelled so well in kickboxing and had the drive to try to learn more about boxing as well. Kicking is great and honestly the spin kicks were cool but unpractical. I wanted to learn how to hit harder with my hands while still being able to use my legs defensively and offensively.
A lot of ppl can't differentiate the difference between martial arts and fighting. Martial arts is the practice of fighting and fighting is the practical application of Martial arts.
In the street it's pure survival..
@@victordelorientis8763 No it's not. If you're having trouble in the streets then it's not the fighting style that's the problem.
@@victordelorientis8763A person that doesnt know hpw to fight will get crushed in a street fight, let alone a mma/ufc fight
Tae Kwon Do saved me in my first street fight when I was 11 years old. I threw one punch and won the fight. I got a reputation for knowing martial arts and it ended a multi-year long bullying phase the other kids subjected me to.
my first street fight involved me trying disabling the enemy ability to fight by applying pressure in a nerve. To get there i just needed to block.
Bro was humbled quickly
@@yuruichi4691 Hm... my life illustrated as an anime? At least for middle school, it would be dope.
@@STARZZgenshin wow, that's cool. i didn't learn about nerves until way later.
in my area you know who won every taekwondo tournament for the last seven years, a kid who knows how to box and takes advantage of taekwondo's scoring system which awards a lot of points for jump punches for some reason unknown to me, so he pretty much bounces around and jabs with the occasional actual taekwondo move just to counter if an opponent catches him off guard (im not saying jump punching isnt taekwondo as its clearly a legal move but when you look at how he moves this kid is clearly boxing)
As a black belt in TKD, one of the first things we learned was a 1-2, just with a flicking backfist instead of a straight jab. As students progressed they'd add a hook n uppercut next, and then a knee, and then we learn how to mix the kicks in with it. Don't tell people not to put their kids in TKD, tell people to research the TKD schools/their practices
On average tkd people are delusional and not ready for a real combat in school. So if parents want their kids to orotect themselves, ON AVERAGE, best to put them in a mma & boxing gym.
That’s just not tkd then what are you on and again overall a striking sport like boxing and American wrestling is a very strong foundation or muay thai with American wrestling or bjj especially ground game since a majority of fights go to the ground
That’s probably because of bad past experiences from your coach 😂 joe Rogan has been said in a real fight TKD doesn’t work, and he realized that after winning multiple world titles and being an instructor himself, just to go into another art and get his face punched off because he didn’t know how to throw, nor block a punch, traditional TKD doesn’t team punches, OBVIOUSLY! 😂🤦🏽♂️
The hooks and kicks are not the same as boxing, the stance is different, you don't even bend down in TKD to dodge
@@calebrichardson6571 Who tf are you to tell me what I did for 8 years? Go back to driving busses creep 🤣
I started off boxing. Then BJJ then went to a MMA gym. Those 2 arts alone carried me during competition. Stand up and ground game. I fully agree with this guy his point is valid
Street isn't about competition
Do muay thai too, its amazing. Shin trainings a pain in ass tho.
Me as an adult: damn I'd crumple like a damp paper towel on the street
Mfs be saying "I do taekwondo classes" and when asked to land a uppercut, flip their asses away 💀
My dad took me to the firing range when I was 12 years old and told me to not worry about those Martial arts fellas…
My Dad showed me how to shoot when I was 9, but I learned how to fight anyway. Guns aren't allowed in a lot of places where kids might have to defend themselves.
If you end up in a fight at close range, and you have little to no hand to hand skills, then you don’t have a gun, your opponent does
"Boy, you ever see a fella get into one of those fruity queer ka-rah-tay stances, you pull out the chrome .45 and let it fly!"
@@juanmejiagomez5514 There are close quarter tactics at close range. Don't test out a trained gun owner with your hand skills.
There are many situations where someone needs an attitude adjustment but not to be shot. If you don't know the difference, you could wind up spending years of your life confined with men where you won't have a gun and you better know how to fight.
Teach your children not to get into street fights.
I agree, there's also this philosophy that existed decades till this day that can stop a potential street fight before it starts.
I believe its called "the way of the quiet kid"
@@marcopineda9507or you have the other method of the “power of friendship” also known as 4 beats 1 be on team 4
And while you are at it - teach them to conduct themselves like ladies.
Don't think this Warhammer guy knows that not getting yourself into a situation where you WILL be injured is not a ladylike maneuver. Still good to know how to fight.
@@MrWARHAMMER68 Doesn't every single fighting gym tell their students to avoid fighting as much as possible? Or as you put it; teach their students to conduct themselves like ladies..
This is also the reason why i think it's beyond stupid advice to chose a sport for you child based on how well "it works in the streets".
If your fight training results in you getting into more street fights, something went wrong.
Tell me you suck at it without telling me you suck at it😂😂
I came to this conclusion some years back. It's nice to see someone who knows what they are talking about have the same thought as you.
Well, I learned Taekwondo from a military instructor and let me tell you, you would not want to square up with him.
In the military and S. Korea, you learn the real deal because it is life of death, but when TKD is taught to civilians, you learn a watered down version.
What if I offered to buy him a steak dinner 🥘??? And not “square up”… increase the peace.
Taekwondo can only win a fight against a person who has NO MARTIAL ART SKILLS.
Once it's fighting against IT'S EQUAL from other Martial art fighters then it will lose 9 out of 10 times (yes, I'm being generous here)🤪🤣
There is a reason why you will NEVER see any Taekwondo fighters winning any MMA matches!! 🤣🤣🤣
I'll put my money on muay thai fighters over taekwondo fighters all day everyday!!
My jiu jitsu instructor is also a black belt in taekwando and he kicks so freaking hard.
I know a guy who was a regional champion from a young age. People underestimate the power of one of those kicks in front of your face, and the whoosh sound it makes.
“Once you’ve wrestled, everything in life is easy” - Dan Gable
Understatement
True.
Teach kids the science of boxing and then teach them whatever martial art afterwards
Due to taekwondo i still have a habit of dropping my guard when i concentrate on the opponent
As a Black Belt Taekwondo, i totally agree. Now I am a Muay Thai fighter focusing more on boxing.
Been doing bjj/Mt for 3 years and I've coached both children's TKD and BJJ so i definetly have an authority to speak on this. The kids ability to fight was obviously better when I was teaching our kids bjj but the kids found more enjoyment and engaged more with TKD. Also the dexterity required for tkd is better for early childhood development I've noticed, most of the kids from the bjj classes I helped coach couldn't do a cartwheel, touch their toes, etc. Absolutely no conditioning, strength training, flexibility, etc. In your typical bjj kids class they usually get straight to drills after like 2 warmups
Ya that’s why MMA is KING. Better than any specialized martial art by far.
@tristargymwestcoast I don't think we're talking about the same thing but go off. MMA is literally the pinnacle of martial arts I'm not disagreeing with you whatsoever 🤣 I'm saying kids in my experience have benefit more in day to day life from Taekwondo but okay haha oss
If those kids were taught mma they’d be way better off. But yes TKD is better than nothing. I just know we can do better.
@tristargymwestcoast well i can agree there, tkd is absolutely better than nothing and programs are widely available i do wish youth MMA was more accessible when I was young haha
@@coachkajan😂 Mma isn't a martial art though . It's not really as much what you train ,as who you train under .
I wont enroll my kids in Taekwondo as their first martial art discipline, but I will enroll my kids in Rexkwondo.
Boxing the best route that REALLY teaches u how to fight
I took Tanakas Karate- got into a street fight with another kid who did Judo and wrestling. One of us knew how to use our knees and also was taught that fights have absolutely no rules. That kid even tried to explain a rule I broke just before I knocked him out. Almost 15 years later he was still made claiming I broke a rule in that fight because he was raised with these rules in wrestling and with Judo.
So true, in middle school my buddy got into a fight and was throwing kicks, but other guy was throwing punches and socked him up.
@MachinePalm 13 year old kids don't think about that stuff, especially in the 80s, before mma and all these other combat sports. Neither one on of them was trained in any fighting style, except maybe wrestling, but people didn't do much ground and pound back then.
That was me. I was throwing kicks at another guy and he grabbed my leg and threw me up and I hit my head on the curb. I lost.
@@nickg1895 grabbed on the leg? Man as someone who practices tkd too, my coach literally said to not hold back at street fights since there is NO rule. grab my leg or not I can grab theirs too
@@nickg1895 That's because you were being wanton with your strikes,if you kicked for real and a had a firm stance he'll be in pain.
this is why nicks smith protein shake is required for an optimal block
it's always good to do multiple arts in general, especially having a balance of ground, grappling, and stand up
He thinks parents put their 7-year-olds in Taekwondo so they can learn to fight? lol
Some parent ought not to be parents and don’t know jack about diddly
@@thisiswhatilike54still a good exercise or workout and the stance itself is not bad by any means. Literally the same stance that's used a bunch of time by the likes of mcgregor, izzy, and other kickboxers
@thisiswhatilike54 Nobody knows how to raise a kid, trust me you think you can research up everything possible and still left dumbfounded on the choices your kids make.
Yes many do, for self defense
@@davidsantoso2291McGregor isn't a kickboxer he is an mma fighter
Boxing or kickboxing never fails🗿
Or muay thai
*pulls a gun or a machete
@@yourlifeinsurancehavebeeny4530at that point, you'd better be a smooth talker, a fast runner, or a faster gunslinger.
Boxing is useless lol hands and nothing else.
@@adz5978 lets see you get punched in the face
The more I learn about self defense the more I understand that the best defense is avoiding fights at all costs
Most Taekwondo schools are "glorified daycares".
Literally. Just doing stretches and unison kicks 😂😂😂
An to add to this video , DO NOT let Steven Seagal be your sensei.
Steven Seagal can teach you how to eat a cheeseburger or Twinkie better than anybody.
This guy is a chump. I dont see any type of belt ranking on him. Probably his first week
Hey man that guy may be an unintentional comedian but he is still a legit aikido black belt.
@@DirtyDevdidn't work very well for him considering he got choked out after pulling a real punch on set.
Seagal doesn't even practice taekwondo so what is your point?
I did Taekwondo and he’s right. You can win a talent show but you’ll lose a fight to a Samoan.
If u weren’t Samoan then u were gonna lose regardless😂😂
Disagree
@@duanegarrett4900brother all it takes is for me to see your goofy TKD stance and know to catch one low or roundhouse kick. All it takes is for me to take the kick to the lat (you can take one or two kicks and stand your ground if you use your lat) check it or move laterally to catch it, and you’re done:
Single leg takedown is the obvious next step but I could even just use it to control you enough to get in close range and now you can’t kick at all, now I can use any amount of judo wrestling and Muay Thai sweeps and throws on you, and if I take you to the ground what are you gonna do?
Skill issue
Dont think anything is gonna work on a samoan fam
My mom put me in taekwondo when I was young and it was the first thing she wanted to do and because I wanted to be a cool kid. Thankfully, in the middle of training, my coach decided to teach me a lot of boxing basics because I heard that Manny Pacquiao integrated many martial arts such as Taekwondo in his matches before. In the end, this taught me that I only kick when I have the opportunity to and that having experience with your upper body really negates a lot of weaknesses Taekwondo has.
Best advice I ever got from golden gloves champ as a kid about geting into a physical fight? Don't, walk away. If you absolutely must fight, do it on your terms. Preferably at night, without witnesses or cameras using the element of surprise and a tire iron lol 😆
Tkd is not about fighting.... it's a lifestyle that teaches discipline... focus... and most importantly how to avoid confrontation. But if needed... you can still defend yourself.
All martial arts teach that. The difference is you can't actually defend yourself with Taekwondo
@@nicholaseaves2591 Is that every school and teacher?
It's just there's nothing that stops me mixing my boxing into my Taekwondo instructing, or Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai into my instructor's instructing.
@diddlenfiddle7311 well of course. But now you're talking mma. This post was about people relying on tkd as a primary means of defending yourself
@@nicholaseaves2591 i think traditional tkd is not the best. True. My school was based in tkd but mixed in stuff that was more useful in a fight from other styles. Most fights end up on the ground so we were taught that as well.
Avoid confrontation? Almost all the kids that does all this martial arts including girls in my school were very cocky thinking that they were unbeatable in a fight.
I think traditional styles are the way to go from an early age. They teach much more than just fighting
yes, an TKD is not a traditional style
Combat sports teach volumes. I'm not convinced that traditional styles teach anything. All they have given people I've known is an unrealistic expectation of what fighting is like.
Boxing and wrestling definitely teach honor, courage, bravery, and discipline. Also, those martial arts have existed since ancient Egypt. TKD was invented in the 50s, Karate is only older by a few hundred years. If you're going to an old school coach and learning real Karate or TKD, then great, but if it's just watered down forms, kata, point sparring, etc. then it won't even be able to cultivate the same virtues wrestling or Judo does.
@@collaboration3511definitely. A sport like wrestling teaches bravery, discipline, courage, and it builds mental resilience. Unless you're at an old school gym, karate or tkd just wont do that.
Traditional Styles at their traditional core and history are very brutal. The real deal of karate and taekwondo is lethal and most of it is illegal.
Today it’s been watered down because shit parents and their soft kids might get hurt ect…
The thing is, these super traditional blocks are most certainly for blocking hands that are swinging weapons. It’s no wonder they don’t work for fist fighting
The TKD "blocks" you see in the forms aren't blocks. They are strikes and grabs.
I’m pretty sure there’s never been a UFC champion that has not mastered either boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai or BJJ
People dont put their kids in martial arts to learn how to fight in streets, they start martial arts to learn how to respect others and yourself, to create courage and to have some fun while putting their bodies to lose some energy.
People definitely think that their kids will learn self defense from martial art classes. Discipline and respect is a byproduct not the main goal
@@maddox9511 I totally disagree
@@getasimbe There's a reason why the incentives are so high for schools to give black belts to these little kids. If parents don't think the kid is progressing through the ranks they'll just leave the school. That's why they give belts easily, there aren't many parents like measuring the "effectiveness" of the school by their childs discipline and respect progress.
bruh ! isnt it just better to spur with tigers nd wild animals
Useless parent then
Assuming you're in a street fight with another TRAINED and DISCIPLINED fighter, which is unlikely, Taekwondo still has several great applications. Its not void of punches and takedowns. There are also other effective blocking techniques. Even more so if who you're fighting is inexperienced. I think learning any martial art is fantastic for children. Taekwondo is great as a beginner. To each their own though.
You can't properly kick in pants dude but you can puch so learn boxing
@@Vihaan8888that’s if you wear gay skinny pants
@lucifer61479 any boxer takes a kick from an experienced tae kwon doe practitioner, he'll fold him like a lawn chair 🤷♂️
@@ReverZe83 bro this doesn't happen watch any mma fight I have also learned taekwondo but still boxing is just better you can literally catch the kick of the taekwondo guy and hit him in the face
@lucifer61479 who the hell picks random street f9ghts with MMA fighters?
Did you even read his post?
I'll kick a hole through a mofo, with pants on.
Also Wing chun is a good start, it's mostly underrated and never gets mentioned anywere!
That last look🥶💀
Wonderboy has that stance and be layin mfks out
Rule #1 for the average joe: *You ain’t Wonderboy*
You ain't wonderboy tho are you?
@@goodboi1725 What a moronic argument
Your kid will never be wonder boy😂
Bro that stance is shit for defense but is great for speed. And you know what tkd focuses 2nd? Yep, speed. Power is the least concern for people who practice tkd so a powered kick could probably injure 1 person or 2. For kicking I'd recommend pencak silat also. Underrated martial art yet is as good as traditional tkd.
A buddy in high school was a manager/bouncer at a local arcade back in the late 70s. He was 6'2'' 205. No fat at all. Great street fighter with no formal training. 4 guys came in and were starting trouble. The leader of them was known as a black belt in TKD. My buddy threw them out. They wanted him to fight their leader. He met them at a local Burger King after work and sent that black belt away in a ambulance. It wasnt even close just as the guy in this video preaches.
Yo this story is WILD. At a Burger King?? 😂
That's a knock on the leader not TKD
At the age of 7 my son was bullied every day by the same big fat kid. I decided to enrol him in a TKD class. After a year he gained self confidence and respect from others including that bully boy and that continued into his life as a successful man. Best thing I ever done..wrong advice.
I remember a TAEkwondo kid killed a harmless kid by bullying
I haven't done any martial arts except kickboxing for a very short time... my opinion: If your kid want's to do tae kwon do, let your kid do tae kwon do. It's a sport where your child learns discipline and excerises. You won't go around and tell a soccer player they souldn't do it because they wont know how to punch somebody properly or defend against an aussault. It's sport.
But soccer doesn’t sell itself on self defence. Also this video was meant for parents getting their kids training for self defence not on wether a kid wanted to do taekwondo in the first place.
I got put into taekwondo for self defence when I was a kid then done mma later and realised how practically everything I done in taekwondo is inferior to mma training. That’s what he’s saying in the vid taekwondo is only good for kicks everything else goes to mma for self defence.
Taekwondo is supposed to be a martial art for self defense but football isn’t meant for it. All the basics are important in actual fighting which taekwondo lacks some.
@@ParaBeamwrtaekwondo is suposed to be a martial art, period. I suffered bullying at school, and after starting taekwondo with nine, I kicked a lot of as#es. Kicking well is an art in itself and the sooner you start, the better. I later learned boxing, judo, and some other stuffs, but taekwondo saved my abused- kid's life. All these gurus that put the emphasis on the martial instead of the practitioner, are messed up. I'm 42 now and I'm still able to kick as almost no one of my age can imagine to do.
But kickboxing is a combat sport ,and tae kwom do is a martial art. Big diff in both of these
@@avonmaster6628 do they? I started off with Taekwondo and have been doing it for years, at a bunch of different clubs. Those clubs never sold themselves on self defence or told students they were street fighters or something.
People have different reasons for doing martial arts and those are valid. If your kid enjoys doing Taekwondo, let them.
Agreed. Taekwondo is made to fight against another taekwondo player and not in the street
Yes 👍
I see it as a sport, not a fighting style.
I knocked out lot of ppl with my kicks as tkd athlete but yeah a boxer wrestler or BJJ is more effective ofc
But tkd has a story and patterns and meaning a tkd practicioner can just punch a bag and learn footwork swaying and punching
imagine living in a place where you have to fight people in the streets...
My brother who he’s first martial arts is Taekwondo be like:👁️👄👁️
Taekwondo was part of my school curriculum 💀
Courtesy integrity perseverance self control and an indomitable spirit. THANK YOU TAEKWONDO
I didn't see boxing defense in there...
@@xerotonin6776 or sarcasm
this. People think that everything must be about fighting in the street and completely miss the point of practicing martial arts.
tkd spirit s2
Amen. TKD gives kids a false sense of security since they rank your kids up so fast. What does a 13 yr old black belt really know about fighting.
I agree that too many new age schools do kids an injustice in this way. They need to get back to tradition no matter how much these parents whine about Lil Billy not having a higher belt yet.
A good school will impress the kids that they won't survive in a real street fight regardless of their black belt, that the real learning only starts after black belt... Personally, I think kids should be restricted from getting the two highest ranks until they reach a certain age... When I started learning karate, each belt colour was divided into 3 levels: you had to take the same test 3 times, but each time, the grading got stricter. You had to wait minimum of 6 months before attempting for a higher grade, even if the examiner thought you were nearly there...
Perhaps underage kids should have a different grading system?
You can’t get a black belt until you’re 16 in my country
Blame the McDojo instructors that scammed them.
Bro indirectly insulting karate🤣
This is why you should just teach your kids on how to use RPGs💯💯
Bro forgot the International Taekwondo Federation existed.
nobody forgot, they're irrelevant.
I AM WTF
His points are valid for ITF as well. Even though ITF allows head punching, ITF fighters cannot punch very well and have no guard either.
Look at how ITF fighters just blitz for the head and fail at basic punch defense. It's basically the same as sport karate without the sweeps.
This guy is going to get people killed. Don't you go and start picking a fight with Korean Taekwondo experts. They could kill you with one kick. It's foolishness to think as he does. No martial art style is complete in itself but they are deadly.
Depends a lot also in the type of Taekwondo. Some ITF Taekwondo classes teach you a pretty solid base of punches, and a plethera of self defence techniques, like eye pokes, thrusts, knifehand strikes and even throws, sweeps, knees and elbows. Basically a huge mix of WTF Taekwondo, kickboxing, muay thai, krav maga and judo
this reminds me of the Prejudice Racist Bigoted football coach who expressed his hate for soccer and the people who play it...
A guy ik once learnt it for fight purposes and he lost by getting gang still remind me of good old days
Im starting my MMA journey at 21(bit late). Currently doing Muay thai and my grappling class does BJJ, Judo and wrestling.
Good stuff 👍
Commenting so people see this video
This is why you keep lead paint in your house; you want your kids addicted to ammo
Empty vessel makes the most noise. 😂
The most important thing is to be beyond styles. There is one mountain to climb, the styles are just different starting points to body mastery. Continue to absorb and evolve as a true martial artist should. Start anywhere but aim for the peak!
It's all just a collection of techniques and movement patterns. Get as many styles and techniques into muscle memory as possible and spar to see what works under what scenarios. You will get to a point where you are using your own unique style of fighting
Bruce Lee taught that.
Anytime I’m tryna learn a kick I always ask the taekwondo dude at the gym.. man their kicks are so perfect and beautiful..
Bro sound like Mike Tyson bro 😭🙏🏻
I used to do TKD just to watch the upper belts. Saw an upper belt kick, put it in my back pocket, modified it and dipped.
Boxing, wrestling, mui thai and BJJ ---- what MMA proved works.
As a TKD practitioner, I highly agree with this statement. Choosing a style really depends on what your goals are. I personally study TKD because I want to become a stunt performer for action films. If your goal is to learn flashy moves and look cool on camera, then styles like TKD, Kung Fu, Capoeira works best. But if you’re looking to compete in MMA or learn how to defend and beat people up then MMA, BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing works best.
Going straight into mma without a firm foundation in at least one of the TMAs is reckless however it can be done.
I’ve never seen a street fight go beyond boxing. BUT I saw a jiujitsu expert get head stomped pretty quick
POV: me, a 15 year old who has been taught Taekwondo since 6
I come from a law enforcement and school safety background. Myself and most of my partners were highly experienced martial artists. From a school perspective having wrestling, grappling skills will keep you out of trouble due to no tolerance policies. You'll always get away with physical control (no slamming, joint breaks or chokes).
But, you have slams as an option. 😊 And the ground is a constant wall.
@@smokeyjoe6059 Well said. I responded to an incident. Roommates drunk and all that, got into a fight. One was a wrestler. He suplexed his roomie. That guy was ended with a two month stay in the hospital.
Bullshit, cops just shoot people, they don't fight anymore. Go watch the news.
Why do you disregard the fun stuff. If I'm forced to fight, then I'm ending their ability to fight. No point if they will try it again. Next victim might be as lucky or trained to defend themself.
Kinda surprised more people don't have the 'be nice or lose it' mentality.
@@thelonelylakotaakafang1900I have that mentality.
Great advice have to share this with my brother now that he started with TKD lol.
So true!!! 1st BJJ, 2nd Boxing, 3rd Muay Thai!